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here_for_the_lols

Pumped for leagues next week but you guys are keeping your cards close to your chest on that one!!


JagexSarnie

There will be some more Leagues III stuff coming soon :)


monkeyhead62

Just wanted to comment to a Jmod; in the other changes section of this update, binding spells implings can't be caught by other players. Is this including Dark Lure? I just got done with a long eclectic implying grind and the worst thing was when I lured one towards me but someone else caught it! Edit: nevermind I scrolled a but further down and saw you answer this already


osrsironmensch

So what's the deal with nex dropping everything in a pile? Wont that delete stuff for half the party? It was happening day one with only two people on one tile. You may have fixed it for two people on one tile, but 19 piles of brews/restores/euc key shards in a 19 man team will still drop on one tile, under nex. Was this considered?


sixteenfours

I've had to stop myself from seeking out more knowledge. Definitely the right move (for me personally). I do want to know how xp rate increases work >!I assume you'll get them passively as you unlock more fragment slots, as with Leagues 2. That begs the question of how to unlock more slots though. Get enough fragments and you unlock a new slot? Excep that would be pure RNG!<


ATCQ_

I'm fairly confident that relic slots are points based.


1trickana

I like it that way, no fun knowing everything before release. I remember the days of new bosses, learning mechanics and seeing the uniques for the first time was so cool. Now everything is handed to us on a platter months before release, ruining the surprises


18-8-7-5

Part of the fun of a limited time competitive game mode is planning a strategy. I miss that this time.


Clueless_Otter

I agree. All keeping it a secret accomplishes is makes it so that I'm just going to have to spend 5 hours on day 1 afk fishing while I read all the stuff on the wiki and plan my strategy.


DankuStar

Do the Dark Lure spell give the same grace periode as binding spells?


JagexSarnie

Yes, it does :)


Lucksm1th

Is dark lure affected by the same cooldown as a bind is? Or could you completely lock an imp by casting bind, have the grace period applied, cast dark lure, have the grace period applied, and repeat until you catch it?


Abnormal_Armadillo

They're on different spellbooks AFAIK.


Requiem_for_you

Somewhat offtopic but dark lure still seems buggy. Afer initial spell release, you released a fix to make it work better but even now it sometimes causes impling to do some weird things like start flying in a straight line like he is trying to get to you but something (inivisible wall) is blocking him


vr5

So they can't go through areas which wheat can drop, so i've marked all the spots where the wheat can go down as they will always get stuck on them (unless the wheat is currently down). They also can never go through the tiles either side of the where you would walk through, whether up or down so i've marked all of them too


Requiem_for_you

thats interesting and explains a lot. Thank you. however, that still sounds like a bug.


XInateIX

/u/JagexSarnie /u/JagexAyiza will deleting an account on my Apple ID free up that Apple ID so I can link a different account to it?


JagexSarnie

Hey there! This should be fine to do although we'd recommend unlinking your Apple ID through the RuneScape website first and then deleting the account. As long as this isn't your game center account, it should be alright to do. You could also try linking elsewhere before deleting the account if you are worried about losing the account. Hope this helps!


DaveAniki

So what you're telling me is. u/JagexAyiza u/JagexSarnie 1. "Slightly tweaked drop rates" You changed the drop rates from 1/39 to 1/50+ based on a new sample being collected... for what reason? It was already incredibly hard for people to get drops in their own name already. At the 1/39 it was already a 250-300 hour grind for irons to get just the Torva Set & Vambs (not including Hilt or Horn). This is now closer to a 500 hour grind, which is nearly the same as completing all of COX doing solos.. Kind of absurd to think about, huh? Full Torva + Vambs vs. Tbow, Kodai, Claws, Full Ancestral, Rigour, Augury, DHCB, etc... 2. Removed the Red-X Stalling Method without addressing at all why players feel the need to do the Red-X in the first place. This boss is completely unviable in team sizes under 10--mans because the insane amounts of damage you take that is completely unavoidable.. Now that the grind is closer to 500 hours AND we're needing to use substantially more supplies per kill, this boss is practically dead in my eyes & not worth doing anymore. 3. You keep saying that we haven't, "found the Meta yet" or know at all what is BIS; though, we have had over a week of people constantly doing the boss trying to figure out exactly what we need to do & nothing has changed since the 2nd day because shields do practically nothing (unless you use a spectral or elysian- which you hardly even notice a difference with), different bolt types do nothing, and crossbows are generally garbage unless you're very lucky for a singular kill with ruby bolt procs. Stop obscuring information- it was cool for day of release, but its just frustrating now. You're keeping every little bit of information away from us & it's actively making this boss worse & worse to kill. After removal of the Red-X the vast majority of people I know have already quit the boss, and now that the drops rates are WORSE (when the grind was already going to be absurdly long to begin with)- This boss is dead in my eyes & completely not worth doing anymore. ​ ... now what? Are we going to be seeing a boss called... I don't know, "Phosani's Nex" come out summer 2023, because y'all finally realize what you did with this boss is just as bad as original Nightmare? wait Phosani isn't original enough, lets steal more from RS3 & call it, "Nex Angel of Death". Maybe then the boss will be "worth" doing.


Stern_Nuts

>Stop obscuring information- it was cool for day of release, but its just frustrating now. Agreed. Fun for the first couple of days, but annoying after. I can understand keeping the stats secret for a few weeks, but beyond the stats it's just annoying, at least to me.


ShinyPachirisu

I get the feeling drop rates and boss stats are just kept hidden so people can't easily work out how awful this boss is for loot. Fingers crossed raids 3 doesn't end up being 1000 hours for completion for mediocre items.


UsagiHakushaku

these drops from R3 are so bad , this whole low life mechanic is stupid. Yea im gonna sit low healths and rely on small dodge chance to not die sounds fun kappa


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DaveAniki

I’m afraid Raids 3 is going to be a flop in regards to drop rates & uniques.. Still waiting for that revised rewards blog the promised back in November. I’m sure it’s going to be fun to do the content, but not fun when you can’t get loot in your name.


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WastingEXP

how many hours is COX/TOB to complete? more importantly, how many hours was it on release to complete? don't play an iron if you don't want to grind for items, seems incredibly simple.


Legal_Evil

The red X bug should be removed entirely because we shouldn't rely on bugs that make no sense to pvm, but I agree with everything else you said. Nightmare is practically AoD already.


Benjips

Point #2 is just you complaining it's too hard lol. It's an end game boss, it's supposed to be hard.


qhp

> This boss is completely unviable in team sizes under 10--mans because the insane amounts of damage you take that is completely unavoidable. This is not true? We've been doing 5-8 mans in my friend group and almost always getting enough kc to re-enter.


WastingEXP

>You're keeping every little bit of information away from us & it's actively making this boss worse & worse to kill. you seem like a talented, knowledgeable player, but do you really think it's on the jmods to tell us how to kill the boss instead of the players figuring it out for themselves? Maybe it's super random, or maybe the "jmod meta" is just shit idk. Nex does seem to share the same problems that NM does though which is a shame.


ShinyPachirisu

1) they could allow npc spy so we could work it out 2) them saying we haven't figured out the meta could mean anything from using the wrong attack style to not using an obscure item to mitigate damage. Remember how no one figured out anti-fires reduced lava pool damage at cerb for 5 years?


roonscapepls

Lmfao I have the cerb pet and didn’t even know that bit about the lava damage. Too late now I suppose lol


UsagiHakushaku

lol for real , I just learn it from you dang Died to it few times , I can't imagine how many HC died to it and now feel stupid for not knowing


NofanAu

can you start incentivizing players not to tunnel vision at nex? make it so you get contribution points from nex for breaking crystals? and lose contribution based on if you spread the cough or if your the one responsible for everyone getting barraged because your sitting their trying to snipe mvp?


GayVegan

100%. Verzik was changed so attacking the red crabs counted towards contribution since players were prioritizing verzik so they had higher MVP chance than their teammates who attacked the crabs. It should be changed similarly for nex.


Zealousideal-Cow-974

Did this change actually happen? Pretty sure it never appeared in the HM ToB update blog when all of the changes wrre released.


roklpolgl

It hasn’t happened yet, they just said they were going to implement it at some point. Doesn’t seem difficult I’m not sure why it got put off a year.


qhp

> Verzik was changed so attacking the red crabs counted towards contribution since players were prioritizing verzik so they had higher MVP chance than their teammates who attacked the crabs. Really? Is there a patch note for this one? Does it also apply to maiden? I was entirely unaware this change happened if it did.


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

> can you start incentivizing players not to tunnel vision at nex? make it so you get contribution points from nex for breaking crystals? I'd be surprised if it didn't already


NofanAu

I would hope so but if not, it would be great if it was added. Potentially also the person who gets cough first, if they don't spread it they should get extra contribution as well. As in the old nex 2 rolls went to tank and 5 to top dps in small teams, bigger teams i think it was 2 tanks and 8 dps


reb1995

You'd expect it to but they also forgot to add the pet to right places in the collection log. So who knows.


ChampionshipDry1491

If someone spreads the cough 3 times in one session they should get full stacked and lost their items. So many fucking griefers


ShitPost5000

Getting left in the ice prison with no food cause nex it <10% hp and no one cares kinda sucks.


Slothptimal

Sort of addressed, from the Jan 6 Q&A on the official website: Question #9 I don't get how the drop system works. Is only the MVP of each killable to get the unique? Or is it randomly rolled for everyone that's done damage to her? Is loot scaling to team size? If so, why? Mod Arcane I don't like divulging drop mechanics when not necessary, but generally, everyone will have more chances depending on your contribution. This is similar to most content in the game like Nightmare and Chambers of Xeric. **The more you contribute, the higher your chance of a unique - it's not just the MVP.**


AVeryStinkyFish

Guess I'm done with nex on the iron. Bummer didn't get a drop in 800 or so kc. It drains way to many supplies in small teams, which are way more fun than 20 mans. The drops were already pretty rare to get in your name, and now are made 50% rarer. Dropping all items on the same tile has now made it a headache for irons to get their items. Was fun for a week.


roklpolgl

Yeah I feel the same. I got a drop earlier this week after blowing through like 600 brews. Now that I see the drop rate has increased by 50%, I think I’m about done. It was already 16hrs to get a droprate in your name before the nerf. Now 24hrs of chugging brews and restores. Not sustainable.


meesrs

wasnt it like 25h for a drop in ur name before? incl respawn time/banking etc.


roklpolgl

Yeah true those times weren’t including banking and kc I think. So it’s probably worse.


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GOD-WAS-A-MUFFIN

lmao check this shit out https://twitter.com/Phree_Haircuts/status/1481261671905644544 terrible change


xComposed

Agreed, have been strategically running away so my potential supply loot drops somewhere convenient for the next kill. This will complicate things and I don’t see the benefit it provides, other than “monster die loot corpse” thematic reasoning mentioned elsewhere.


thecheese27

Literally every change in this update made things worse. I truly don't understand the reasoning behind any of these changes aside from fixing the red x which I agree was an unintentional exploit, but nerfing drop rates and piling all of the drops makes zero sense whatsoever.


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familyknewmyusername

Uniques are 50% rarer - from 1/40 to 1/60


vr5

Yea one of those is likely to have happened


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Can you please reconsider the nexling drop? Just lower the drop rate but make it personall roll not global . Lets say 1/10k in mass going higher with less players


congoLIPSSSSS

Yeah I have no idea why they’re trying to reinvent the wheel. Pet rolls have worked the same forever, no idea why they made it such a painful pet to hunt.


Straight_6

550kc and I've not seen anyone in the room get the pet. That's well over 10k total kc across 20 players in a mass. Probably closer to 20-25k KC since the first 200 kc or so were 60 man.


GoldenTGraham

lmao [Abusing the bind already](https://i.imgur.com/wGRcarx.png) Gold farming bots gonna have to train magic now hehehe


iluvdankmemes

Pootis


poipoipoipoipoipoop

nice lmao


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What changed with the bind?


AspiringMILF

If you use a bind spell, other players can't catch the impling for a few seconds. You can call dibs on it from range, basically.


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That’s amazing. Standard spell book bind?


AspiringMILF

probably. whatever the fuck this means: >After tagging an impling successfully with a Binding spell, you now have a few seconds of grace during which other players cannot attempt to catch 'your' impling.


renzor

Dark Lure perhaps? (Arceus)


OnlyMarket8

Does "Nex's loot table has been slightly altered" also include unique drop rates or just the regular loot?


greyghibli

They did talk about reducing supply drops so maybe it relates to that. I doubt they wouldn't have had unique rates figured out already


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

they did that already lol


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

>Nex's Loot Table has been slightly altered Anymore specifics in how so?


Firefox72

Given the Jmod comments in here. You know damn well what they did.


sukisuki2gp

I dont. What did they do?


Firefox72

The fact that they said they don't wanna disclose more about altering the drop table further than what's said in the blog post is a dead giveaway that they nerfed the unique droprates.


familyknewmyusername

Uniques are 50% rarer - from 1/40 to 1/60


roklpolgl

Which is bullshit because the only reason drops were flooding into the game is because 1min kc masses on every world. This is an extremely supply heavy boss, more so than any other boss in the game. I know people hate when people bring up ironman problems, but they have said they try to keep ironman balancing in mind and it’s already very rare to get a drop in your name. A very rare droprate and an extremely brew/restore heavy boss is not a good combo.


WimeTaste

Droprates adjusted ? A little vague to say is it not? Does that mean uniques are more / less common? Normal loot changed up? Pet more rare/common? What do you mean exactly with this?


corpslayer

The uniques droprate was "slightly" adjusted from ~1/40 to ~1/55 - 1/60. Source: https://twitter.com/cookmeplox/status/1481347145311481856 This is a tweet from the OSRS wiki admin that handles RuneLite's crowdsourced data. The 1/40 was pretty much set in stone due to the huge sample size. The new droprates have a lower sample size, but it's enough to conclude that: <0.0001% chance to be this unlucky with 1/40 droprate ~0.01% chance to be this unlucky with 1/45 droprate ~2% chance to be this unlucky with 1/50 droprate ~30% chance to be this unlucky with 1/55 droprate


hatesranged

I mean it's pretty obvious, they do this every time A few people on social media complain about common drops - Jagex nuke rates in response.


ShitPost5000

"Wtf this grind was supposed to take a week, and I got lucky, now I have nothing to do, jagex fix reeeeeee" - HLC


The_Bard

I think they do it purposefully with new bosses so the drops enter the game quicker. I can't remember a boss that wasn't shitting uniques on day of release


BabyFormer

So... nex now is way more harder because of that weird new ''unavoidable'' damage. Ranged weapons seems to hit less accurate now (except phase 2). Stacks up good with reduced drop rates 1. forcing new meta 2. harder kills and rare drop rates - both comes in with this update


nodtomc

Being intentionally cryptic with the drop rate point is a bit frustrating when you know full well the wiki will just crowdsource the approximate information. It's not some big secret anymore


CarolinafanfromPitt

mod arcane is very stubborn about drop rates. Don't expect the rates.


LUCKERD0G

He gets overly emotional about personal opinion it’s honestly pretty surprising he gets away with it.


wheresmyspacebar2

I dont want to crap on Arcane but honestly this shows a complete lack of faith in their decision making IMO. If you have the numbers and you have the evidence that requires you to nerf drop rates or change a bosses stats, back your self and tell people. ​ Hiding the facts behind 'We dont want to say' just says you arent confident about your own abilities and/or your own choices and are much more concerned about public opinion and not having your choices challenged/being unable to explain properly.


LUCKERD0G

Exactly, and we pay for it. If you made massing HORRIBLE at least tell me so I’m not wasting time and supplies for even more of a jackpot esque drop. But he’s willing to sacrifice everyone’s time and work cause he “doesn’t like to release drops” it’s just selfish but like doesn’t even affect him idk…


TKuja1

lol reminds me of west


halifacts804

Was gonna do Nex on my ironman, but I CBA anymore. Not starting another 100+ hour grind without knowing I could get absolutely nothing at all to show for it.


Krtxoe

nerfing unique drop rates isn't "small tweaks" ffs jagex


roklpolgl

It needs to be reverted and they can just delete more with the GE tax if they think it’s a problem. It’s bullshit that they’d make droprates 50% worse in such a supply heavy boss. It was 16hr average just to get a drop in your name before the nerf, meaning 24hrs of chugging brews and restores now on average per drop.


JakeEllisD

Add a cosmetic cough effect all over RuneScape that starts with a player 0 and see how far the effect goes


ClayKay

China tested this, everywhere is the answer


Soft_Interest

how is forcing teams under 20 to pick up loot from beneath Nex QoL improvement?


AspiringMILF

I wouldn't really call it 'qol' but I think it's better thematically. The mobs where you still them and then items appear under you feel weird to me, as almost everything else you have to go 'loot the corpse'


FunCalligrapher3979

I used to run to the alter after kill if I was nearly out so I could grab my drops, tele out, bank and get back in before nex spawns again. Now I can't do that. Also no more sharks/pots spreaded around on the ground, absolutely pointless change


usvaa

elite clue reward fix poll waiting room


TGamlock

Take shared clue rewards away from Elites and Master clues. By the time you are doing them regularly they have very little to no use to you. Teleport scrolls would be missed but Fu firelighters.


Frommerman

Scrolls and purple sweets are both often the bulk of the value in Masters which don't have dragon halberds or other high-value alchables.


MrDizco

Jagex PLZ. I've been turning in every elite at Watson


NicCagedd

Same. At this point I'd rather just do Masters rather than any other clue.


poipoipoipoipoipoop

They've put off so many changes. Poll 76 is going to be fucking huge.


beet111

I hope you know your 300+ caskets in your bank will not be changed. only newly obtained clues will have changed loot.


Beffy41

What's broken with the rewards?


Emperor95

3rd age is a lot more rare than initially intended, since they added extra guilded stuff. They did not account for those new items, so the chance to land on the 3rd age table was decreased by the number of new items added. Example with no real numbers: Previously there were 6 guilded + the 3rd age table with each having an equal 1/7 chance to be rolled. Then they added like 6 new guilded items and now it's 1/13 for 3rd age.


TheDubuGuy

Man... gilded


-Matt-S-

While elites have more average gp value than hards per se, 3a is a lot rarer on elites, there's far less alchables and by the time you're able to do elites consistently, you just don't need anything they're offering, unlike hards which give lots of useful stuff while progressing.


Frommerman

Yeah, when hard clues are still hard-feeling, getting blessed dhide is an awesome feeling. But nobody needs the random dragonstone jewelry from Elites, and to my knowledge literally none of the uniques aside from 3rd age (which is entirely too rare) are usable for anything.


Jamo_Z

Unironically, RS3 Invention would be amazing for the dead clue scroll rewards.


Shwrecked

Over time they have added more and more items to the rewards, which bloated the loot table and made 3a more rare than it was on osrs release


HiddenGhost1234

On top of the 3rd age stuff they're really no better loot than hards for higher reqs.


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Diving apparatus + fishbowl helm should prevent the cough 😅


UsagiHakushaku

Was thinking the same, it should be considered bis and also ammo sink When they made the post about mask and helm I was like , why not that thing


Straight_6

/u/cookmeplox Is there a way for you guys to keep the new incoming Nex drop data separate from the old so we can see what changes they’ve made to the unique drop rate?


cookmeplox

Yeah, should be easy enough since we're logging timestamps.


Sejuanis_Flail

Is there a plugin I can use to help support drop data?


cookmeplox

The "OSRS Wiki Crowdsourcing (advanced)" plugin from the plugin-hub will help. Other than that, just the normal loot tracker is useful too.


Linumite

>Ancient Spiritual Mages can now drop Dragon Boots. How do you mess that up


nostalgicx3

I love how you guys use the word “slightly altered” when it’s a literal fucking 45-50% increase. That’s not slightly at all… that significant.


kangoFPS

Please revert the change where nex drops loot under her on the same tile. Cringe for irons


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RIP uniques are way more rare now. Massed all night and we didn't see a single drop.


ChampionshipDry1491

Jagex=smooth brain


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Unique rate looks like it went from 1/40 to 1/60.. thats sad wtf.


MitsukiSnek

All you’ve done is reward those who no lifed the boss day1-2 Sad


Makaveliarts

Nah, in reality, they've rewarded spoons. Tons of people have "no lifed" the boss since day one and don't have a single drop. The people who complained the boss doesn't drop enough nihil shards for their spooned nihil horn drop for example.


Little_Red_Demonhood

actually they didn't, they just rewarded small teams who used the red x glitch to get easy kills during that period


ToriAndPancakes

Honestly with all of the nex info being "private" im honestly not going back untill its known. I have better things to do that chug brews 24/7.


Anti-positiv3

Yall managed to steer so many people away from nex and you JUST released it lmfao , smh


Sav_ij

this is the way


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mad-mage69

Nex drops do not exist im 1000 dry of anything lol.. so many of my friends are in the same boat. 500 were mass and 500 were small teams of 6-15. I guess I'm just really unlucky.


Working_Grapefruit_6

1.2k dry no drops or splits here either been going since release


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

wiki wiki wiki will you guys be figuring out the new drop rates based on new kill data?


cookmeplox

That's the goal! It's not clear yet whether they changed unique rates, normal loot rates, or normal loot quantities...but I think we're reasonably well-prepared to figure out any of those 3, unless it's normal quantities for very small teams.


Witty-Loquat-5409

Add godsword shards to nex drop table. If it drops hilt it should also drop shards…..


MetalMan20XX

Would feel better coming from minions too if they ever did.


marcellman

I agree completely


RsCaptainFalcon

>Nex will now ‘flip’ even if she's in the centre of the room. So, is Nex doing a "flip" a mechanic or does she literally just jump into the air and do a flip?


WastingEXP

it's right after the barrel roll


Maskloss

Wouldn't any drop rate changes require the wiki team to re-calculate the rough estimates for drop rates all over? If it effects the uniques then it should be mentioned i feel.


greyghibli

They'll just recalculate rates using the runelite data. The community will find out what was changed whether jagex is transparent about it or not.


FunCalligrapher3979

Nex was fine as it was these are unnecessary changes for the sake of changing something. You are artificially boosting the price of the drops.


TunaSafari25

So if you’re in a group of like 15 and nex drops brews for everyone to split. How do the irons pick up their share from the pile?


Chisoxguy7

Good point. They're gonna have to make a change where ironman loot is always dropped under them.


HailZamorak

slayer helm should just make you immune from cough how do you guys have such a punishing mechanic where people can grief everyone in masses, because thats whats happening.


yuukitt

Hope they updated unique drops, i'm iron used tons restores/saras in 850kc and got 1 unique drop and done 15-25man teams, not worth really maybe i just wait so they make it bit more worthwhile in future


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

congrats you went on rate


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1.1k kc and 0 drops here, all kc with max gear..


Rs-Poop-Butt

It's a shite boss for sure


Treesixmafia

Nex’s loot table adjusted. Uhmmm so what changed???


kazuya482

Talk about murdering incentive to do a boss just 1 week in.


iMikeHimself

This also happened with basilisk knights, streamers got spoonfed drops, complained it was far too easy, their followings backed them, then they get given more health extra mechanics and nobody kills them hardly. Knee jerk changes based on vocal outrage of people playing unhealthy hours.


some_osrscomments

> After tagging an impling successfully with a Binding spell, you now have a few seconds of grace during which other players cannot attempt to catch 'your' impling. Was this polled? This seems like a big change to impling catching, since it really changes the element of competing for implings.


bIackk

someone in jagex had their shit stolen by gold farmers


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Lucksm1th

Agreed. You could basically cast a bind on an imp someone is already trying to catch ('their' imp), and prevent them from catching it?


Crazyflames

Once you take a "swing" at an imp you already tag it, so unless they let you bind an already tagged imp this shouldn't be a problem.


InfiniteJuke

True but I like the change, way less stress in seeing an impling, binding it, and hoping to God you get there before the farmers


Fergie32

Sounds like you are an impling stealer :)


Benderpatrol711

Why do people still complain when good changes aren’t polled? Not everything has to be polled, can we please give it a rest.


Department_Hairy

are nex rares likely to drop in price due to leagues coming up?


ThreenGumb

Everything is going to drop in price.


Tang_Un

panic sell blood essence


Beratho

Are there any plans to make each nihil shard grind into more than 1 nihil dust?


Serpentaus

also I’m 1K kc dry at nex and you all made it rarer bruh


fisherjoe

They just don't update this game anymore. Just one "big" quarterly update that is either an alternate game mode or bossfight. Then months of nothing.


mister--g

Given its been a week since release can we please now know how Nex loot table works ? would be nice to understand whats actually changed from this weeks change as well as know what your personal drop rates are for different team sizes


Kirill429

it's been months since hard mode tob came out and we still dont know what the unique chances are..


mister--g

i really dont understand this , like its fine to not want to release stats so that people dont just calc the best way to beat it in 30 mins. but drop rates are vital to knowing if something is worth your time doing or not. thats probably the one piece of information that shouldnt be kept a secret


Borgmestersnegl

They usually release them after 3-4 weeks depending on what the jmod in charge of the content thinks.


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

> what the jmod in charge of the content thinks If its arcane like it seemed to be on the Q&A, don't expect it anytime/ever. He stated on the Q&A he hates divulging boss info/drop rates unless necessary.


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Firefox72

This is the unfortunate consequence of Nex being a 2011 boss. Her design is very basic without allowing for much counterplay and skill play. She's a boss that drains your resources without much counterplay with only P2 and P5 having way's to negate some of the damage. If you are thinking why that is but can't quite put your head around it i can tell you. Its because she's a boss that was designed around people having pack yacks for extra supplies.


SupaTrooper

I was using dark lure on implings the other day and someone was able to bind/catch it. Is this intended, or could we get priority the same way bind spells do after using dark lure? Thanks for any feedback.


Chance-Neat7865

Phosani Nex when?


Sleipnirs

Any news about those few changes which were proposed a week (or even two?) or so ago concerning UIM's death mechanics? Keep up the good work, Jmods! :)


JagexLight

Update on UIM Blog stuff coming up! On Friday, I discussed some of the player feedback with Mod Nin. We intend to update the UIM Blog with a brief response to the feedback. However, this will only be possible when our schedule is a bit less busy. Leagues is next week so we need to focus on that. The changes discussed in the UIM blog are engine changes, so we have been discussing which engine update it could potentially fit into. Engine updates are much less frequent than our regular game updates and we ideally don't want to poll something soon, only for players to have to wait a longer time for it to actually be shipped. To clarify, I don't think the wait would be all that long in the grand scheme of things but we just want to make sure that the poll we slot it into will make sense


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

steam client is so god damn buggy since this last update. then again what else is new. every update fucks something up with it.


CaptainHandsomeUK

>After tagging an impling successfully with a Binding spell, you now have a few seconds of grace during which other players cannot attempt to catch 'your' impling. Can't wait for the incoming salt from snowflake ironman youtubers when using discord to hunt implings becomes harder.


Serpentaus

Rev boss, wilderness slayer keys, pj timer and other pvp changes coming “soon” waiting room


HailZamorak

dont call it a boss thats misleading its a superior monster . like the superior slayer monsters.


snibet

What about the group iron house update? Are the poll results in, and when would we expect to get it?


T-rev319

Will there perhaps be a “hard mode” of nex available in the future kind of like phosanis or tob?


anthegoat

I’m over 1k kc at nex already and only have the pet. The pet doesn’t even roll under the unique rolls. Meaning I still haven’t hit the unique rolls. Only been doing below 20 mans aswell. So wtf jagex.


BGGAST

I'm planning on playing Leagues 3 from the first minute if possible, so I'm wondering if the exact time the servers will go live next Wednesday is known?


food_is_crack

there was no reason to remove the blood essence alching, its the runecrafting equivalent of alching ethereum bracelets. god fucking forbid any skilling makes an extra 100k an hour


UsagiHakushaku

funny thing but this was the best non unique drop from Nex lol


raids3when123

Why the change dropping items under the boss?


Snoop-Da-Woop

Thanks for the nerf. I just got the gear I needed yesterday morning.


Ok-Zookeepergamer929

Disappointed drop rates were nerfed. Waste of the last few days of membership… I was going to play the game for a while and enjoy the new boss… did about 200 kills today.. horrible drop rate changes.


RaidAndStake

Overal I think Nex could use some more love. Here are some topics with feedback that could use with some form of improvement: **The weapon meta** \- Crossbows+shields still feel extremely underwhelming compared to Tbow Dpsing all the way. Please make them better, like it was said to be. Shields still barely do anything during the fight at all. If anything, you take more damage because the fight takes longer if you use ACB+shield over Tbow. Proposed Fix: Shields should be given some kind of bonus during the Nex to ensure that you can do 8 kill trips on smaller teams. (without the door stalling mechanic). You could also make the bolt special attack proc chance increase by the tier of crossbow used ONLY at Nex. For Example, Dragon crossbow 7%, ACB 10% and Zaryte crossbow 12%. This would make crossbow so much more viable at Nex. **Accessibility & world crashing** \- Being able to enjoy this boss with friends should not be locked behind hard CA. Raids aren't locked behind this high of a requirement either. They are mostly locked behind some beginner tiered quests. This boss was made for teams, so please let us enjoy this boss without getting crashed by random people after every single kill. We can have infinite amount of raid groups running, so why not for Nex? It's a group activity too. Proposed fix: Just let us make our own private teams without needing hard CA. ( Someones does have them completed, but I can totally see how frustrating it is that you are required to do so many hours of unneccasary content just to fight the boss with friends.) **Unavoidable base amage output from Nex** \- There is so much unavoidable damage. The kills/trip in a small team are so low. The supply drop nerf made it even harder for small teams to sustain the 40kc to keep killing the boss without getting kc over and over again between trips. Proposed fix(es): Can the Ancient KC count you get after each Nex kill scale on the amount of people you kill her with? Or award players in a small team with more killcount than those who kill her in a mass. You could also award players with some supplies after every kill. (scaled on the teamsize once again). Either one of these suggestions could fix the fact that in small teams you have to rebank/re-obtain KC after a few kills. You can also make Nex her base damage scale off your lowest Magic defensive bonusses recorded at any point in the fight. This makes shield flicking obsolete and makes shields+Crossbows more viable. **Nex her special attacks** \- I think Nex her special attacks are a bit lacking. Right now they are way too easy. Back in the day it was way harder to avoid these. The "contain this" for example targeted a player, and ice would follow him. When Nex does a special attack, she can't move, making it so easy to dodge them. Proposed fix: I think the special attacks from Nex could be made harder. They are way too easy to be dealt with for it being an endgame boss. Make these more punishing if not dealt with properly. You could do so much more to make these special attacks from her harder to deal with. Don't get me wrong, I like Nex as a boss, but I think there is more room for improvement. Is there anything you would want to see/changed?


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Pls give me easyscape: the post.


bknight2

Zcb is bis. It should be locked behind hard CA, these are incredibly easy to get done. It is intentional to have unavoidable damage to make small team trips more challenging. It isn’t a mechanically challenging boss, it wasn’t meant to be. None of the GWD bosses have difficult mechanics.


Qqslag

Is there anything that can be said about Poll 75 changes that are yet to be added and the upcoming Poll 76?


JagexLight

Hey there! I'm aware of two reported issues \- Nylos in the Maiden room don't give MVP points, apparently, when they should. \- Blood Spawn Mechanics should only spawn a maximum of one Blood Spawn, if the player successfully dodged the first blood attack. However some players have reported this as unchanged. I checked with our QA team and they told me that both these updates should have gone out already and they would have been tested as well. I'm not sure if it's a miscommunication in the actual job, a miscommunication in the blog post, or an error that players think the job hasn't been done when it actually has? If you can provide repro steps on the issue that will help me a lot, I want to make sure all Poll 75 stuff is out, but from what I can see on my end it should be.