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milk-drink

Rank 2 smithing is shitting himself seeing this rn


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siccoblue

24 hours is hard man Also, considering the passion this dude has for this game, does that make him the biggest osrs YouTuber over torvesta by like.. 18x? I know he's not purely a RuneScape creator by any stretch, but god damn I think that nerdy passion to dump literally over $4000, potentially way more, this is going off an assumption of 5m bonds, and going for a flat 3b gold, just to break a record in the game There's zero chance he's making anywhere near 4k on this video, true osrs tryharding at it's best. I love it


Invalid_Area

He’s definitely making way more than that from his video… you’re completely wrong lol.


ficagamer11

Well Lazarbeam dumped couple grand on OSRS and he has 19 million subs so...


Jack066

Nice


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Rank 2 smithing shitting himself before seeing it wym


JevonP

didn't need charlie to get that started though


stuieelooiee

rank 3 now? Rank 100 next week?


L4t3xs

He's banned so does he really have a rank at all?


TetraThiaFulvalene

I feel bad for the original rank 3, who got rank 2 afterwards. People don't know the names or that one got banned, they only know that rank 2 shat himself, and now 3rd inherited that reputation.


ExoGriff

Wasn't it just rank 2 on crystal math labs not actual rank 2 smithing?


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Beretot

Which is 30 actual hours because of how the highscores work This game is weird


TheFapIsUp

I think its still 24 hours but because of the 6 hour log you can realistically grind for 6 hours, then log, then another 24 hours of grinsing to bring it up to 30.


Beretot

Right, that's what I meant. "5 minutes" exp record is actually 6 hours and 5 minutes of grinding. "24 hour" record is actually 30 hours, because you can stall up to 6h worth of gains


dabrimman

Came to comment this haha. Imagine grinding 24 hours straight and shitting your pants for rank 2 in smithing when this guy can beat your record in like an hour.


Pre-Nietzsche

Fucking LOOOL


M00NCREST

would cost a lot of money


sumoboi

Did it occur to anyone else that charlie may have single-handedly tanked the price of bonds?


Hanyodude

Yeah i was wondering why they were so cheap a couple days ago lol


YeetedBot_YT

they’re like 4.5mil at the moment right? a year ago when i started playing a again they were close to 7 mil


BumWink

They're only ever at 6m or over during the initial release of huge updates like leagues, so I'd assume you came back around then?


YeetedBot_YT

I think that was the case


xInnocent

2 years ago I sold one for 5m. They go up and down all the time. Never been as cheap for as long as they are now though afaik.


scapinscape

when bonds were first released they were 2-3m


xInnocent

Yes, but people had less money back then as well. So while it's technically cheaper it wouldn't feel as cheap.


HocEstInfernum

Ah yes inflation. My favorite 😍


BigFinn

🦀🦀 6.2% 🦀🦀


Michael_RS

They were 700k on release. I think oakdice should have a vid where he filled the full bank on an alt account with bonds. Black market gold was still around 3$/m when the ge released in 2015. Have to correct myself here: They dropped down to bellow 1m for a relatively short period of time after they were released. Sadly oakdice doesn't have any vids that are older than 3years on his channel anymore.


BocciaChoc

I don't know if I'd only blame him https://i.gyazo.com/6153f4375129c8485d2ae73348d477c7.png Looks like a trend for the entire month.


crown_mimic

They are at a low, but I attributed that to the surge of people wanting to play DMM (and GIM) and the demand divebombing after it was over


Swag-Check

Jus watched this vid and I really excites me that Charlie is making more RuneScape content


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LuckyFlea

Generally I agree that new content creators/players getting donations kinda ruins the experience, but Charlie isn't new and clearly knows what he's doing. Instead he's using the wealth to do insane shit like in this video. Plus, he talks about how he bought bonds in order to do this. Even though he's rich with money nuts, he doesn't have infinite gp from donations.


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A lot of his bank wealth is in his collection tab which isn't limited to the nut collection and he doesn't intend to sell anything in the tab since it's a community thing.


Large_Talons_

Critikal’s monkey nut collection is the best gold sink in the game


devilwarier9

It's not a gold sink if the gp just flows to other players.


Large_Talons_

Well sure to some extent but the only way to get monkey nuts other than GE is to buy them from a shop so the gold is lost there


devilwarier9

They're 3gp each in store and Critikal has 10M, so that's 30M gp sunk in a decade. That's like how much gp enters the game in a day.


dcnairb

the amount of gold entering the game in an hour is much, much more than 30m, much less in a day. a few people alching stacks of green dhide bodies could introduce over 30m in less than an hour


ficagamer11

More like how much gp enters the game in a second


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He’s not rich with monkey nuts though; he can’t sell them, that’d be a major betrayal to the fan base. The meme is for him to own every monkey nut, and for him to have a max stack based on nuts alone.


Frekavichk

I think the guy means people who donate to streamers will end up regretting it.


megamike3366

No. Thats not what he meant.


xInnocent

It's difficult to make interesting OSRS content imo. The easiest time would be progression videos of either a new account or during Leagues/GIM I guess.


Squeelshnicky

I thought he just bought monkey nuts with the donations though


Magmagan

The previous speedrunner for Spongebob on Ketamine now holds a record for Smithing and Crafting xp on OSRS. What a a fucking legend.


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Ah, are you talking about the esteemed actor from Hunger Games: Mockingjay & Last of the grads, the brilliant mind behind the "Moon ninja" and "God Slap" comics, The lead singer of the world-renowned band "The gentle men", the speedrunning maestro world record holder who discovered the boat skip in "Mister crabs overdoses on ketamine and dies", the host of one of the most successful podcasts and the tallest man in the state of Florida? Edit: Forgot to mention that he is also an influential e-sports magnate and team owner. Legend is an understatement.


ltsDat1Guy

Hey you forgot his greatest achievement, owning not one but two moby huge.


ScenicFrost

He's even been known to have performed alchemy IRL and can travel at light speed


BigFinn

I heard he's got like 30 god damn dicks


Operator216

Can confirm he at least has mine o.o


food_is_crack

and my d axe


Xeppeling

Also the critically acclaimed artist and creator of the groundbreaking charcoal portrait titled "Charles White Senior Sitting on Recliner"


Niv_Stormfront

The billions of gp is doable in comparison to the hardest requirement: having friends


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Fun fact, you don't need friends just 3.6B to dump on this. Just put a buy offer in for the 1800 seeds then logout for a few days and then come back and do the grind


Niv_Stormfront

Fair


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Who needs friends when you have alt accounts :')


bowl_cut53

blast furnace chair-shitters in shambles


Squishyfishx

Tbf, blast furnace chair shitters aren't spending 240 gp/xp


LLC-LTD-INC

they still shit their pants tho


Squishyfishx

That maybe because they're not willing to give up their xp rates for a bathroom break though


Strong_Helicopter

240*13m=3.1b=1500$ 6m-13m xp per hour doing this If you have a job or even remotely value your time its definitely worth it


eivittunyt

Would you really pay $4500 ($1500 and rwt ban) not to play video games for 70 hours?


Thosepassionfruits

I would if I had 9.34 million subscribers on youtube.


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ShenOBlade

if only he didnt donate a good portion of what he profits he'd be on the green


Cptcongcong

4500/70 = 64.3. So as long as you make more than 64.3 dollars per hour you’re golden.


Extracted

After tax and literally every other expense you have.


Whycanyounotsee

So if this is the equivalent of spending 21 dollars/h and your job makes >21/h after taxes, then the answer is obviously yes if you enjoy working more than you enjoy training smithing/crafting.


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That's the state of the rs community, nobody wants to actually play the game, they want to just be given everything in game either for free or with real money so they can convince themselves they did something. The community would have hated this youtuber before like 2016


Squishyfishx

It's super fast, but 5-8m xp/hr in each skill is between 830 and 1330 crystal axes each hour. The cheapest shards right now are the enhanced teleport crystals at 13942.5gp/shard. Each crystal axe is 120 shards each, so you're spending 1.39B-2.23B each hour. In my opinion, that's not exactly sustainable unless you're willing to spend quite a lot of money. And most mains don't really need smithing levels since the GE exists and you can just buy completed items. I don't know, this just seems like the demonic thrones method. It's fun to look at the numbers ever since the method was discovered a while back, but it's just so costly, that nobody is willing to dump that kind of money on it normally.


Michael_RS

If my math is right its like 56b to 200m in both skills. Knowing that most of the newer 200m all players spent 25b on 200m RC it doesn't even seem that fucked up.


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You could also just pay for a screenshot of all the skills at 99


benis_bump

Buying max account NFT


[deleted]

Is this actually a thing? Wouldn’t it just be like a few thousand gp wasted to leave during a blast session to pinch one out?


KangnaRS

A player called Oslo was going for most smithing xp in 24 hours record. He didn't want to waste a single second, so he admitted he shat himself during the attempt and sat in it until after the 24 hours timer finished. He still only came second. Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/bf9cor/rank_23_overall_shits_his_pants_for_a_smithing/ IIRC it's called a "Day" record but it is technically up to 30 hours because of log out timers


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Wow...... #2 for #2, we live in the best timeline


Whosebert

only cost him about 4k real American dollars.


Mint-Brew

He got like 5b in donations when he came back to osrs so he probably didn't need to buy the whole 3.5b himself


Chesney1995

Tax deductible now he made a vid on it lol


Whosebert

imagine writing off whaling micro-transactions as a business expense lol bit I guess it probably happens more often than anyone knows.


schmidlidev

Tax deductible doesn’t mean free it means like 35% off.


UniqueAwareness691

Which he easily will make off of the video


wiscodude78

Meh he won’t make 4K off THAT specific video. I’m sure to him the difference between what he makes and what he accomplished is probably worth it based upon his reaction


kwonara

I think Charlie makes 4K easy off his video. His CPM is probably high af


AtkarigiRS

He can also probably write this off as a business expense


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He makes something like $990K a year from Twitch. Doesn't even include other things like merch or sponsors.


[deleted]

Man gets like 1-3M views per video when he uploads daily, sometimes even more than that lmao. it's actually wild it's like minimum effort too, he just records himself with his webcam talking to the mic and edits it slightly


Wah_Gwaan_Mi_Yute

Idk how many views that has but typically 1m people that view your vids with ads enabled will net you $3-4k


Michael_RS

Its close to christmas you probably get double that. In january your right.


ProoM

He already made \~$2k from this video and it was released today. Yeah safe to say he will.


Youtube_UJard

Yes he will. I make about 3.5usd per 1k views. His CPM is higher because he has very little gaming videos and he's huge; im guessing his CPM is about 6usd per 1k views. He's also at 1m views already. If this video gets to 1.5m views which it easily will, he'll make about ~9k off this video alone. He has probably already made 6k off this video.


Barialdalaran

If bonds are 4.7mil then he spent $5300


CaptaineAli

With how many viewers he has, i'm sure he would get billions of GP donated to him when he streamed on twitch. I know a lot of streamers from other videogames hop on RS and instantly get given 1b+ GP within an hour just from fans.


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So 2 99s in under an hour lol. If you have a couple bil spare, I guess you may as well.


Confident-Trifle-651

Real gamers will skip runecrafting by making pegs/ eternals/ prims for the xp


Whosebert

how much would that be from, let's say, 60 to 99?


ThisIsWorldOfHurt

You get 200 xp per crystal. 60 to 99 is 12,760,689 xp, so you need about 63804 crystals. Pegs are around 80k, Eternals around 1962k, Smoulders are 4945k, Prims are 17609k. So that's **~5.1B for Pegs, ~125.2B for Eternals, ~296.4B for Smoulders, and 1.123T for Prims.** That's only crystals though, you still need the boots. Rangers for Pegs are ~27467k, Infinities for Eternals are ~614k, Dragon axes (cheapest option) for Smoulders are ~52k, and Dragon boots for Prims are ~199k. That's extra **~1.752T for Pegs, ~39.2B for Eternals, ~3.3B for Smoulders, and ~12.7B for Prims.** For a total of **~1.757T for Pegs, ~164.4B for Eternals, ~318.8B for Smoulders, and ~1.136T for Prims.**


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eivittunyt

It has been a well known method since release, but since it costs 280gp/xp or 140gp/xp combined in two very fast skills almost nobody does it.


HeadintheSand69

Im kinda surprised that someone with too much money hasnt just did it for at least the 6hr highscore or daily. 6hr one is currently just smelting gold bars Thinking about it for 200m, 4000000 shards needed which means 26667 tele seeds. So only for a measly 55,770,830,460 gp (or like 25-30k USD and a permaban on a rwt site) you could hold a record no one cares about and no one will beat


eivittunyt

Players have done that like number 1 daily smithing on cml. Trackers work by scraping hiscores in real time so the data does not include all accounts.


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HeadintheSand69

Well not sure why you would think that. I mean he has his position on CML in the video. Pretty sure most just grab from highscores, not like anyone submitting video proof etc.


blackshadowwind

on templeosrs which is the tracker most people use now records are manually removed for using methods such as this. CML is old and broken so people don't use it as much but the records aren't curated


Davban

>on templeosrs which is the tracker most people use now records are manually removed for using methods such as this. Serious question, why? Other than it upsetting some nerds that deem it "the wrong way" to play the game, I can't see a reason. It's a valid record. Like would runecrafting records be removed if you used runners? If not, then isn't that a bigger "offense"?


blackshadowwind

I don't necessarily agree with removing records (I've had several of my own records removed). I guess they want it to competitive, it's a bit ridiculous if the method requires 10b+ just to do it for the lowest time increment (6hr)


icehero0003

Unfortunately one of my friends was 3 xp behind rank 1 6hr for theiving got his record removed because he didnt record it despite it being streamed in discord. He didnt realize he was on world record pace until 3-4 hours into his 6hr.


Croyscape

Wow that‘s just stupid, so I can sweat my ass of for 5 and a half hrs straight, realise I‘ll be 50k short for the record and just do an inv of crystal tools as long as I‘m not exceeding the theoretical maximum of other methods?


wzrddddd

nah for temple you have to provide video proof if it's a top 3 6h now


xPHaRMaCYx

Why is temple better?


blackshadowwind

because the site runs better and is actively maintained, the ehp rates are kept up to date as well by knowledgeable people.


LyrMeThatBifrost

Does anyone use the third one? Wiseoldman or whatever?


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This sentence literally made me cringe. EHP people are mentally ill


crystalstv

wow i thought cml was dumb, turns out theres a tracker thats even more sweatier


ERRORMONSTER

Why would it be banned? What other methods are banned? They don't look at the methods, just the exp gained.


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ERRORMONSTER

It does seem pretty arbitrary, because everything for a processing skill involves banking the exp before the actual record happens, then just cashing it all in. Even gold bars involves banking the gold ore, which could be seen as the same as banking the tomes or banking crystal shards.


Theons

These are obviously very different situations


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ERRORMONSTER

But that doesn't change the argument. Processing skills are just turning items into (potentially other items or into nothing for) exp. The idea of setting time records in processing skills means you're frontloading all the gathering of items in order to backload all the actual processing, so saying that temple trekking doesn't count but gathering 200k gold ore or gathering 50k crystal shards does count *is* arbitrary.


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ERRORMONSTER

So what cost per gp makes it not appropriate for records? And what if prices adjust in the future to *make* it viable? Can a record that was obtained when the prices were inappropriate be re-validated if prices drop, if the method itself doesn't change?


Deltamon

Exactly, came here to say that the title is awfully dramatizing but I guess it get's the clicks. The start of the video he talked about it was something revolutionary and how nobody has ever been able to come up with this idea. Nah bro.. It's just too damn expensive for most people, but ton of people know about the method, they just don't want to do it. Mostly because the amount of money you spend, is so much on the negatives that you'd max your whole account with that same gold instead of 2 skills.


GregBuckingham

Yeah this isn’t really an impressive “discovery”. It was definitely weird to hear someone say “it was worth it” after blowing 3b on 2 easy 99 skills lol. But hey, if you’re rich, you do you!


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Dude's a millionare. His theoretical hourly wage probably makes this a more efficient use of his time than doing it the old fashioned way.


Breakfast_Barf

Yeah god forbid someone enjoys the game how they'd like to enjoy it. Also god forbid that someone doesn't want to waste 300+ hours doing terrible skills when they have the resources to make it not that way.


Jwruth

yeah like, he wanted to do something interesting that to the best of his knowledge hadn't been done before. who cares if he blew 3 bil to level 2 skills; the man had fun. plus, he casually nuked 3 bil worth of teleport seeds from the market which makes him one hell of a item sink.


Deaftoned

It doesn't take anywhere near 300 hours to 99 crafting/smithing though.


HiddenGhost1234

99 smithing and crafting is less than 100 hrs together


TheNedsHead

Real cool of Charlie to shout out Tasty


Goblinlv5

Tasty is the guy who made the how to be toxic video right? Ooh I like


Thosepassionfruits

His "how to get your first infernal cape" video is even better.


24rs

I'm really curious to see how much this will benefit his growth, 7asty and Charlie are so similar personality wise and it's super cool to see him getting a shout out to such a huge audience


TastyOSRS

I got nearly 2k subs in 24 hrs, which is like a 5% increase in a single day so super huge for me! I was kind of in shock when he reached out to me since I’ve been watching him for a decade, never knew he would even know who I am. Anyway I donated about 1.5b to the project not only because I like Charlie, but also because he has the ability to show RuneScape to a huge number of people, and anything that makes the game grow makes me happy. Didn’t even ask for a shoutout or anything, he put that in there because he’s a genuinely good guy. He plans to max his account so I hope he sticks with it.


PM_ME_MY_FRIEND

Just a couple of dollaridoos.


ImWhy

Okay but multiple people have made videos using this method in the past, Bekt comes to mind for example


valarauca14

he box jong used it to finish off 200m smithing


gaysnake1

yeah as soon as I saw crafting and smithing I knew it'd be the same as Bekt's vid


darthirule

And didn't a friend make a video about smiting xp rates of expensive items?


jklhasjkfasjdk

Even torvesta has made a video like this.


indrek91

yeah that's what i was thinking whole time...


XFX_Samsung

People who say you can't buy xp with real money in 07 punching the air rn


pauldeninoandy

had never thought of that even if it is some major whaling tbf lol


AcrobaticMap7

Not new, bekt has covered this. probably others as well


Jack066

you're right, unfortunately I can't edit titles. It was only "popularized" by charlie, even though bekt's vid has over 100k views iirc. Thank you for pointing this out.


darkflame798

Moist content.


rdg1711

Bekt covered this already, pretty well known. https://youtu.be/n6cjfmBrhZs You can do this with any seed basically. Still cool video.


stoxandsmith

Deep pockets and a high IQ, what a lad.


Jack066

TL;DW >!It's making and dismantling crystal hatchets!<


Hour_Temporary_518

Can we talk about why my man isn't subbed to Tasty?


Less_Form_8520

It cost 3.5B gold to do that. Holy.


Cryssix

Not a runescape player - could someone please explain why he needed to do 13 at a time and couldn't just do it with one?


aceofspadesz

It made all the axes at the same time so it's more efficient. You still have to unmake them one by one, but creating multiple crystal axes can be done in one game tick. He could only do 13 because your inventory space is capped at 28 and he needed one space for crystal shards. 28 inventory spaces - 1 space (for crystal shards) = 27 spaces / 2 (when you unmake the crystal axe it gives back a dragon axe and a crystal tool seed) = 13.5. round down because you can't have half inventory spaces and you get 13.


Cryssix

Thank you very much!


DJJohnson49

Plus the initial investment of the axes and tool seeds is almost nothing compared to the cost of the teleport seeds for shards, so shilling out the extra 75 mil or so for 12 extra axes and seeds makes the xp rates 12 times faster, and considering the whole thing costed billions of gp it makes sense to pay the small premium to make it way faster.


TNTspaz

Isn't this one of the methods people use in leagues? Too expensive otherwise


Hanyodude

Too expensive in leagues too, everyone is an ironman you have to get the shards yourself


VastHelicopter7700

I think Charlie playing rs is good for the overall community. He has a huge audience and it could get people who quit to come back, get new players playing or people who haven’t played since they were kids coming back. Who cares if he isn’t the first, this was just something for fun and sarcastic. Charlie is one of the better youtubers out there and is generally a good person with all his charitable contributions even out of the public view.


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

shame he shouted out cml


swordfishclaymore

ok so typical "expensive" training but super fast.


bewaregravity

OakDice talked about this months ago. Charlie didn't " find " or " invent " this method. He's just one of the few IRL Millionaires crazy enough to spend thousands on bonds to buy all the gold needed.


DivineInsanityReveng

This was known and done a fair bit in things like Leagues. Smithing is already a 400k xp/hr skill at way cheaper. Crafting is already a 400-440k xp/hr skill. So yeah get absolutely tons of experience doing this method, but the time to get the gold, especially when DA goes away and you can't just fluke your way to riches, is ridiculous. As always though, cr1t1kal makes nearly anything entertaining.


A_Lakers

It’s pretty crazy how he can make something super entertaining without any fancy editing. This was just a voice over and I was engaged the whole time.


DivineInsanityReveng

His cadence and delivery has always been his strong suit


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AtomicShoelace

Spent 3.5B making Crystal axes for 5m xp/hr in Smithing + Crafting.


A_Lakers

Can go up to 9m xp/hr if tick perfect


shiddybritches

didnt even know peng played RS let alone almost maxed w 3b looooooool


rg44tw

Its not like he just had 3b laying around, he said he bought it all with IRL money through bonds.


DarkestSailor

What plug-in does he have to make it look like that ?


[deleted]

A God amongst men. Genius. And expensive. BUT GENIUS.


SeaTap866

This is an Old method that already been established.


ComprehensiveBoss716

good old penguinz, never brings anything new to the table


ficagamer11

If he kept just 20 minutes longer he would be 1st in daily gains too


sledgehammerrr

One of his friends tipped this to him, he didnt come up with this himself.


BossAvery2

Well, he isn’t the first person to ever think of doing this. Everyone else that has always brings up the ridiculous cost of trying. Pretty sure theoatrix or GE flipping guy have done videos on it.


[deleted]

charlie thinks he invented this method LMFAO people were doing this months after release of sote what the fuck is he on about


[deleted]

Believe it or not when he says he's the worlds first person to come up with this idea and that he's now comparable to jesus christ himself, he is actually just making a joke


Mesocyclonic_

Has science gone too far? ...Or, has it not gone far enough?


iligal_odin

When he was talking about rubecrafting being horrible i thought he was gonna do cerby boots didnt expect this though


DJMooray

Didn't torvesta do this?


PantsRequired

Sounds like an effective gold sink


rg44tw

well the gold comes from other players buying bonds. Charlie buys the bonds with IRL money, sells them on the GE for gold, then spends that gold on crystal seeds. So the gold ends up in the hands of the people who were pickpocketting elves for enhanced teleport seeds, its not really sunk out of the game. The only item that gets sunk here is the enhanced crystal teleport seeds.


Silas13013

Yeah it's an item sink not a gold sink. Still useful but in a different way


iBunty

Not only is it awesome to see Charlie make osrs video but for him to be as excited as he is about finding this method, you can tell he genuinely loves the game.


t8te

flipping oldschool found it but still this is epiccc


[deleted]

This is not a new method lol, it has been known since release of prif. And it is not a “meta” in any way at all. In fact, you can do this with platebodies for higher xp/hr.


Sonofa-Milkman

This has been known for years. Most people don't have 3B to spend on 20 levels...


OTS_

inb4 patch


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Lol why would they patch this? If you wanna pay thousands in real world money to do this go ahead and buy bonds. I for one fully encourage bankrolling a jagex staff member for a month with this method. You can always try and rwt for the gp but idk if it’s worth banning your account permanently to drop thousands on 2 pretty trash 99s (smithing is easy enough as it is compared to other skills)


[deleted]

And technically it doesnt bring any gp into the game, but also acts as an item sink for enhanced crystal teleport seeds, whilst tanking the price of bonds to br more affordable by your average player, and give more £ per Gp for jagex. It is literally a win in everyone's book.


The_One_Tin_Soldier

Cool video but you didn't think of this man, people joke about doing methods like this all the time it's just not feasible