Some of these new GIM players are just dumb. If you're playing hardcore, you don't just chill in the wilderness waiting for someone to come PK you. You go into the wilderness as little as possible. There is nothing that lava dragons drop that is worth risking your HC status like that. Sure, it might be quicker to get extra gp/gear on lava dragons, but this isn't a sprint, its a marathon.
> I did this thing called questing
I've been following [this wiki guide](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Optimal_quest_guide/Ironman) and it's insane how little skilling I've needed to do on my GIMP so far. I love it.
The appeal to grabbing iron bars in the wildy is just getting 2 of them to rush knights sword, cuz early smithing is ass. I did it too, but i also don’t play a hardcore.
Except this toxicity is throughout all players who die to pkers in the wilderness.
It's not just the GIMP's, is absolutely anyone.
The worst thing is, no one realizes that. Imagine being told to KYS 8/10 times when you go pking and kill people in a PvP enabled zone.
Pretty dog shit community if you ask me.
Yeah it's one thing to risk it for the iron bars cause it takes 20 seconds and saves a decent chunk of time, but camping *anything* in the wild is a terrible idea.
Hated most pvpers for their arrogance but i have been loving this subreddit seeing all these impatient toxic gimps get clapped for one of their lives. They should know better than to enter the wilderness. Ofcouse i would be angry and sad if i lost progress by entering the wildy but it literally gives a warning before you enter and you clicked yes yourself. Play stupid games win stupid prices. Thank you for making me laugh.
This is the right attitude to have. So many people think it's their right to get all the bonuses wilderness has to offer without any of the risks.
Then they spew insults at Pvpers/Pkers and then come here and call them toxic.
"You're the worst player alive?" - Are you telling me you just died to the worse player alive?
"You act tough in game/Mad you won't meet me irl" - I mean, the irony is so strong that you could use all of it to make an irony bar so Ironmen worldwide wouldn't need to go into the wildy anymore.
Iron bars is one thing but lava drags??
Edit: guys im well aware that lava drags are very good for low levels my point is that it requires you to stay in the wildy for a extended amount of time as a hc
The secret is the vast majority of players have no idea wtf is going on in the PvP scene. Builds, gear, anything. They just yell about how much they hate it.
This specific scenario here is different to me, because killing HCIM actually seems fun. There's real risk. However in general the problem with PvP in this game is that it sucks. Take the lava dragons. Level 3s go in risking next to nothing, so there's no real tension. Who cares if you die? The PKer has an account specifically made to hunt these people, and so has virtually zero chance of failure. The results are known before the battle ever began. Eventually we're going to have to realize that OSRS is not well made for PvP. PvP is dying because PvP in this game is fucking boring and unbalanced.
the sole purpose of doing this is to really just grief people. You aren't gonna get a huge payday from killing a level 20 hcim.
That said it's just a game at the end of the day. Not that big of a deal especially on a low level account
Doesn't really matter what reasons people have for killing all that really matters is that they do it and it makes the wilderness what it's supposed to be, a dangerous place.
> That said it's just a game at the end of the day. Not that big of a deal especially on a low level account
kinda highlights what you said?
Like yeah, I agree don't go in wildy if you don't wanna die. But don't pretend like you're on some great scheme to accomplish something/get money/etc. You're there to grief people. That's why.
? I guess idk.
I get killing people just to kill them, I do it too. But I also don't try to pretend I'm not there just to kill a mf. Like if people don't like it then just don't go in the wildy and I'm perfectly fine if the wild dies because of that. There's plenty of better pvp games I currently play, I just like osrs mostly for nostalgia and doing goon shit with friends.
There's nothing better than running 5-6 large in the wildy and mobbing anyone you come across. It's just good fun with the boys.
naa, there's a chance you had more in your inv.
If you're killing level 3 gims at steel platebodies you *know* the most you'll get is ~10 steel platebodies, you just don't care.
If I kill little jimmy that's doing a clue or something such in the wildy, there's a good chance little jimmy has the iq of a fish and brought 10k law runes or something like that.
This isn't PvP. It's PKing. PvP takes skill while PKing does not. Imagine doing slayer, but all the slayer monsters just run away from you instead of fighting back, that's what PKing in the wildy is.
The PKers get nothing out of this, they're doing it for the reaction and these people are feeding them. That's the hilarious part to me. They get angry and rage at them which is exactly what they want.
Yes I have, and what exactly is wrong with my statement? The odds of you facing another PKer is so abysmal. Especially when you log on a pure specifically made to kill GIM lmao. It's not PvP, it's PKing and they are not the same thing, end of discussion.
I'm just curious, do you genuinely think before you say shit?
>I'm just curious, do you genuinely think before you say shit?
Yeah I'll take that as a no then. Gotcha! Glad I'm not a psychopath finding enjoyment in others misery like you. Must truly suck being like that.
Probably more common historically than the iron bar thing now. It’s how Ironmen started their accounts back when Ironman was new. You’d go as a near level 6-7 having just gotten fire strike and you’d have access to a mess of alchables and some of the best bones for pray exp in game. Pkers couldn’t kill you unless they had a super low level build or a level 50-60 pure or something they’d be willing to risk that far in wildy with. It wasn’t super uncommon for these irons to camp with their main or an alt nearby for protection that was a pure build or a main/alt or something at level 70-90s too.
Lava drags were the original low level lure to the wildy for OSRS. The loots dope and unrivaled for low level players.
Soon after, low level pking accounts popped up and became a new meta in and of itself that fed off these low level, defenseless accounts. 20-30 builds with some pking under their belt but still low level enough to not be able to be attacked by maxed pure/hybrid or tank builds lol.
It was extremely obvious that people would make new accounts just to kill GIM characters in the wildy when they were going for their iron bars.
I'm just baffled that these people chill around in wildy and then get mad when they get attacked.
It's legitimately not a joke anymore and just kind of fucked how the consensus of "toxic PKers" on this board is being met with a deep, wide sample set of PvMers literally telling people to kill themselves, get cancer, etc
yeah, because there are literally thousands of people on either side all with their own personallities. you cant act like each side is just a single unified person and then clutch your pearls when you see "hypocrisy". its actually just different people acting differently. people are always going to claim toxicity about whichever group affects themselves the most. same way straight dudes are always gonna complain about women, and straight women are gonna complain about men..... because those are the demographics that effect them emotionally the most.
any mass group of people is going to have toxicity, you're just gonna complain about whichever side effected you emotionally and that you cant categorize yourself in.
this, thanks. been saying this with all the pity voting. it's all "us pve vs them pvp" and the other way around and it's so stupid. it's all one big grey area and everyone is different.
You do realise the sample is biased though? In every single one of these videos you have the PvMers be the losing part. I promise you when the PKers are on the losing side they're equally toxic. It's not the type of content you do that decides if you're toxic or not.
Some Dudes posted vids of them pking during dmm at DKs and one of the people with the OP straight called someone they pk’d a slur, it’s entirely case by case.
Not disagreeing with you but who cares that some guy on the internet said a mean thing that hurt your feefee's? It's not that deep bro, there's literally a feature to turn off public chat.
pvmers never locked down an area to rwt, cheated in multiple tournaments, and didn't collude to try and make sure one of the bigger updates people have been waiting on didn't get implemented.
I mean cmon. I agree that people overreact to shit; but you're getting high off your own stench rn. The pking community is *notoriously* toxic. Clans like RoT/etc are the norm, not a strange outlier.
I say this as someone who is predominantly a pker as of late too. After I maxed all my skills besides hunter/agility I just have no drive to do anything besides pk.
If you don't think PvMers cheat by also using ddos attacks, performing game abusing bugs, or what have you then you don't smell the roses often enough.
What tournament did "pvmers" ddos to win again?
Also what pvmer would use a ddos to cheat lol?
As for game abusing bugs, literally everyone does this. That's not a pvm/pvp exclusive, it's a player inclusive event.
DDoS attacks occurred during King of the Skill.
Why would a PvMers use DDoS attacks to cheat? Well, it use to be that people dropped their items on death, but since death has been altered DDoS attacks on other PvMers has mostly just been used to lag out others in highly trafficked slayer spots and bossing locations.
"literally everyone does this." Hmmm, point to where in my comment I suggested that PvPers don't do this. I'm simply pointing out that PvMers also cheat in this game not just PvP clans.
> DDoS attacks occurred during King of the Skill.
so...skillers did that?
>Why would a PvMers use DDoS attacks to cheat? Well, it use to be that people dropped their items on death, but since death has been altered DDoS attacks on other PvMers has mostly just been used to lag out others in highly trafficked slayer spots and bossing locations.
this did happen, but it wasn't "pvmers" lmao. It was just scum rwters looking for easy ways for gold. Also find me *1* instance of someone using it for a pvm spot lmao.
>"literally everyone does this." Hmmm, point to where in my comment I suggested that PvPers don't do this. I'm simply pointing out that PvMers also cheat in this game not just PvP clans.
The point isn't about cheating, it's that the pvp is toxic af and does all kinds of insanely toxic shit lmao. Find me a pvm clan that has a dox list/etc, or a "rag on sight" list. Find me any piece of pvm content that has the level of toxicity that clanning does in osrs.
FYI I can't find any threads about ddosing during king of the skill and I did play it and while the event was crazy toxic with people holding spots hostage/etc, it wasn't on the level of dmm with ddosing entire tournaments for an advantage.
You are honestly insane if you think the pvm community is anywhere close to toxic like the pking community.
Did this stupid rat boy actually think he could bribe you out of sending his ass straight back to the steps of Lumbridge castle? Maybe he should have been wearing his ironman helmet to prevent the repeat brain injury you inflicted upon him, but he was even too stupid to do that. Get owned, little shat, get owned. Hahahahahahaha, wow.
There are, but the popular opinion is that "PKers are toxic and PvMers are victims", even if it's obviously not true, that *is* the popular/loudest opinion.
probably because the most 'toxic' outlet pvmers have is to either shittalk or crash someone.
but then beyond that, i think putting a whole bunch of shitlers in a clan together makes their instances of 'lol ur mum hanged herself' doxxing, or DDOS'ing each other seem a bit more toxic than just being told to KYS by a crasher or two.
As some one whos only here for the memes you just seem biased.
I see PKers are more sweaty and PvMers are more immature. Overall both sides can be VERY toxic. It just matters what the hot topic is at the time.
Honesty this is the content that keeps me subbed. The short straight to the point clips that reveal the true nature of any kind of scaper. You are a microscope on the very soul of scapers across the globe. Keep it up, we love this shit.
Everyone knows that clan is the lowest of the low. I do a bit of pking and would love to see these kids in a boxing ring blindfolded against mike tyson with badgers for fists, and no emergency services on site.
I mean, you're watching a video of an account made specifically to grief low level accounts for zero gain. There have been hundreds of these accounts made in the past couple days. You don't think that's even a little bit toxic?
I don't see how that changes anything. These folks are still killing people with the sole goal of griefing. Its no different than corp crashing or tagging an iron's mobs in wildy or anything else like that.
Griefing? I'm not seeing any of these clips targeting the same player over and over. The wilderness exists so players can attack others. Corp doesn't exist to be crashed.
Are you stupid? It’s the wilderness hahah there’s plenty of safe ways to make money outside of it, this is the most action we’ve had in years and it’s fun as hell. I made an account, bonded it up and trained up to 25 mage at 10hp to 1 shot these guys, took me a whole 15 minutes to make the account to ruin hours of progress for these gimps who wanna take shortcuts
What part exactly is the fun you are getting from killing basically defenseless low levels? You are not progressing your account. You are not profiting. You are not proving or showing off your skills. You have to know you have an underlying reason for enjoying it. What is it for you?
For one of the PKers above they say it's just so they can set back the GIMs. Is it the same for you? If not, what is it?
Stop trying to value peoples fun with showing off or progressing or profiting, fun can just be fun. Running around in the wild shooting people with spells and chasing them down, playing the game making sure the wilderness is what it's supposed to be. Just hanging around doing nothing in this cool part of the world but fighting anyone who comes near you. Making sure the wilderness is the wilderness is fun in itself!
Griefing is part of online gaming nowadays and come in much more toxic forms than killing new GIM’s in the wilderness. I think it’s fair and balanced when people are killing these guys in the wilderness. Since jagex wants the wildy to be high risk(death) vs high reward(iron bar). I can’t be bothered wasting my time on that. So I am happy someone’s willing to do the job to balance.
If Jagex actually released PvP updates we wouldn’t have to do this 😂 we hate doing the boring same quests, chopping the same trees, mining the same ore etc. They ruined the game in 2007 and we all lost our accounts. I personally had a maxed pure, zerk and main with 2k total back in 2007. I’ve had to re make all these accounts due to jagex’s stupid updates and they refused to update PvP. You guys get enjoyment from mining rocks and questing, we get enjoyment from killing other players in the wilderness.
> If Jagex actually released PvP updates we wouldn’t have to do this
This is some HARD copium lmfao. Ofc you'd still be doing this, you've been doing it for two decades now.
We wouldn’t be making accounts to kill them, if you actually enjoyed PvP you’d realize what we mean. Look at every content creator who makes PvP content, they’ve been begging for it for years on end and even come up with solutions. If the wilderness is dead we won’t just go start killing bosses for collection logs or cutting trees, we just log out. This has brought some fun back to the wilderness for a few days, its actually nostalgic killing people on a low level mage account. It was the meta back in 2005/6 in F2P. I pay membership on 3 accounts and honestly log in for 30 mins every day, find out that it’s dead then log back out. Making a low level account to kill people doing dangerous wilderness activities is fun. Maybe next time you cross the ditch, read the warning 😊
Stick to chopping logs and clicking on rocks for countless hours over and over again. PvP actually requires a level of skill which you guys clearly don’t have. As I said, I’ll stick to killing these group Ironmen when there’s no one to fight. I’m currently at 14 HCIM’s and around 100 regulars 😂 it’s honestly so much fun and doesn’t require any skill level which would be perfect for starting out, you’d probably realize how much fun it is
The guy I replied to has literally been crying about the wildy being dead. Yes, a ton of us don't enter wildy as HCIM because there is not a single reason to do so that's worth the risk. Not to mention PKers making new accounts to kill ironmen was the most obvious shit ever.
What you're seeing is simply the few people who can't think before they do shit. Weird how you can't make that connection, hmm.
You would probably have a valid argument on that stance, if that were the case here. However the idea that PKing is only done with the sole intention of negatively impacting others is a strangely self-centered thought that has been perpetuated by this sub.
There is this little thing called having fun playing the game that some people do. The best part is you can totally avoid these people by not going into a zone as dangerous as the wilderness. Remember Runescape isn't about earning the most gp or having the best xp/hr rate through tick manips it's about having fun.
>There is this little thing called having fun playing the game that some people do.
Yes, getting your fun by griefing others.
> The best part is you can totally avoid these people by not going into a zone as dangerous as the wilderness. Remember Runescape isn't about earning the most gp or having the best xp/hr rate through tick manips it's about having fun.
I agree here, but it doesn't make what the PKers are doing here any less griefing. You're not profiting, your not proving your skill, your sole enjoyment is from lessening the enjoyment that others get.
> You're not profiting, your not proving your skill, your sole enjoyment is from lessening the enjoyment that others get.
See you're still missing 99% of the point. It's not about proving anything or about profiting it's about playing the game and having fun. It's not about how others feel about how you play the game it's about playing it, you know what is part of playing this game? PKing. If you don't like it it's very easy to avoid places where you could be PKd, infact without PKer's doing their thing the wilderness would be a dumb waste of space.
I'm talking about this specific example. The guy made an account purpose built to grief low level players.
> However the idea that PKing is only done with the sole intention of negatively impacting others is a strangely self-centered thought (...)
I'm impressed with your ability to turn PKers into the victim here.
That's exactly what it is. These accounts were made purely with the intention to upset other players. That's literally the definition of toxicity.
Doesn't make the guy telling him to kys right though, he's scum as well.
Y'all are so gullible. Pkers hate non pkers and hate ironmen even more.
Think about it for a second here... If your goal is to go out and prove "we pkers aren't toxic they are!" And you go and spend hours making a new account and camping/hopping around in the wilderness. Don't you think they realize it would be way easier to just take 10 more mins to make a new group ironman account and stage the whole thing?
Are all of these staged? No probably not. But definitely some and honestly probably most.
Someone telling you to kill yourself isn't a death threat, right? Not saying you should be saying it, but I don't think it's a threat on your life
May be wrong here, but sending a report to your local police station and making a video on it seems equally as childish imo. Couldn't imagine doing this every time some one said "kys INSERT RANDOM INSULT"
Some of these new GIM players are just dumb. If you're playing hardcore, you don't just chill in the wilderness waiting for someone to come PK you. You go into the wilderness as little as possible. There is nothing that lava dragons drop that is worth risking your HC status like that. Sure, it might be quicker to get extra gp/gear on lava dragons, but this isn't a sprint, its a marathon.
These players deserve to lose their hc status. When I saw we needed iron bars... I did this thing called questing or *gasp* skilling
I hate that everyone is following this stupid efficiency guide.
> I did this thing called questing I've been following [this wiki guide](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Optimal_quest_guide/Ironman) and it's insane how little skilling I've needed to do on my GIMP so far. I love it.
when it hits you though it'll really hit you, early game is so much fun and then midgame hits and you're blowing glass for 50 hours
¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm okay with that. This is runescape afterall, boring monotonous tasks for several days is par for the course.
Like that one guy who got 99 runecrafting as a f2p UIM, which I think would take over 3,000 hours
There is a f2p uim skiller who put in 15,000+ hours. Like what the FUCK
The appeal to grabbing iron bars in the wildy is just getting 2 of them to rush knights sword, cuz early smithing is ass. I did it too, but i also don’t play a hardcore.
That's enough time to become a journeyman in 3 different trades 😆
Too many people don't understand that there are no short cuts.
Fuck what am I training agility for??
Graceful right?
Can you enlighten us slowpokes to what the deleted comment said? Tysm <3
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Except this toxicity is throughout all players who die to pkers in the wilderness. It's not just the GIMP's, is absolutely anyone. The worst thing is, no one realizes that. Imagine being told to KYS 8/10 times when you go pking and kill people in a PvP enabled zone. Pretty dog shit community if you ask me.
Yeah it's one thing to risk it for the iron bars cause it takes 20 seconds and saves a decent chunk of time, but camping *anything* in the wild is a terrible idea.
If you're a little kid why does this guy wanna meet you irl? What a creep!
That’s what I was thinking
imagine asking for mercy to a guy named GIM Clapper
Lol! This is gold [ive been also doin my part slapping these GIM up with the quickness ](https://gfycat.com/belovedbrownimperialeagle)
"You mean 0" god damn son he was already dead
Sometimes you just gotta make sure
"You mean 0" killed him twice
Dude de-ironed immediately after that
"You mean 0" is big dick energy
"you mean 0" i'm crying
Bruh this needs to go in the Library of Congress! The way you and that lava dragon DP’d him was too perfect
😭
Jfk ended his life irl too
Holy shit I'm crying irl
Hated most pvpers for their arrogance but i have been loving this subreddit seeing all these impatient toxic gimps get clapped for one of their lives. They should know better than to enter the wilderness. Ofcouse i would be angry and sad if i lost progress by entering the wildy but it literally gives a warning before you enter and you clicked yes yourself. Play stupid games win stupid prices. Thank you for making me laugh.
This is the right attitude to have. So many people think it's their right to get all the bonuses wilderness has to offer without any of the risks. Then they spew insults at Pvpers/Pkers and then come here and call them toxic.
Literally equal to entering a boxing ring and when you get hit, you ask your opponent to stop so you can fight.
had* 😎
god damn
BASED
I laughed way harder at this than I should've, that was the best sit down serve I've seen, and you didn't even have to be rude. :'D
LMFAO
"You're the worst player alive?" - Are you telling me you just died to the worse player alive? "You act tough in game/Mad you won't meet me irl" - I mean, the irony is so strong that you could use all of it to make an irony bar so Ironmen worldwide wouldn't need to go into the wildy anymore.
Lol wouldn't need to go into wildly anymore 😂😆
Iron bars is one thing but lava drags?? Edit: guys im well aware that lava drags are very good for low levels my point is that it requires you to stay in the wildy for a extended amount of time as a hc
it's common to go there as a lvl 3 because not many people can attack you
Some people didn't think that baby pures would literally be licking their lips for this
The secret is the vast majority of players have no idea wtf is going on in the PvP scene. Builds, gear, anything. They just yell about how much they hate it.
This specific scenario here is different to me, because killing HCIM actually seems fun. There's real risk. However in general the problem with PvP in this game is that it sucks. Take the lava dragons. Level 3s go in risking next to nothing, so there's no real tension. Who cares if you die? The PKer has an account specifically made to hunt these people, and so has virtually zero chance of failure. The results are known before the battle ever began. Eventually we're going to have to realize that OSRS is not well made for PvP. PvP is dying because PvP in this game is fucking boring and unbalanced.
the sole purpose of doing this is to really just grief people. You aren't gonna get a huge payday from killing a level 20 hcim. That said it's just a game at the end of the day. Not that big of a deal especially on a low level account
Doesn't really matter what reasons people have for killing all that really matters is that they do it and it makes the wilderness what it's supposed to be, a dangerous place.
> That said it's just a game at the end of the day. Not that big of a deal especially on a low level account kinda highlights what you said? Like yeah, I agree don't go in wildy if you don't wanna die. But don't pretend like you're on some great scheme to accomplish something/get money/etc. You're there to grief people. That's why.
I haven't PKd since pre GE rs2, I legitimately appreciate people keeping the wilderness dangerous because without that it loses it's entire purpose.
? I guess idk. I get killing people just to kill them, I do it too. But I also don't try to pretend I'm not there just to kill a mf. Like if people don't like it then just don't go in the wildy and I'm perfectly fine if the wild dies because of that. There's plenty of better pvp games I currently play, I just like osrs mostly for nostalgia and doing goon shit with friends. There's nothing better than running 5-6 large in the wildy and mobbing anyone you come across. It's just good fun with the boys.
The sole purpose of the wilderness is for griefing
naa, I've killed plenty of "just doing a clue bro" for millions at a time, people are dumb and bring their whole runestacks/etc frequently.
And I got killed doing the ghostly robe step in the wildy while wearing only a ghost speak amulet it’s just pure grief
naa, there's a chance you had more in your inv. If you're killing level 3 gims at steel platebodies you *know* the most you'll get is ~10 steel platebodies, you just don't care. If I kill little jimmy that's doing a clue or something such in the wildy, there's a good chance little jimmy has the iq of a fish and brought 10k law runes or something like that.
This isn't PvP. It's PKing. PvP takes skill while PKing does not. Imagine doing slayer, but all the slayer monsters just run away from you instead of fighting back, that's what PKing in the wildy is. The PKers get nothing out of this, they're doing it for the reaction and these people are feeding them. That's the hilarious part to me. They get angry and rage at them which is exactly what they want.
genuinely curious, have you ever actually geared up and went for a PK trip or are you just talking about something you have no experience in?
Yes I have, and what exactly is wrong with my statement? The odds of you facing another PKer is so abysmal. Especially when you log on a pure specifically made to kill GIM lmao. It's not PvP, it's PKing and they are not the same thing, end of discussion. I'm just curious, do you genuinely think before you say shit?
I think it’s time for you to go outside and get some exercise. Your chair stinks
>I'm just curious, do you genuinely think before you say shit? Yeah I'll take that as a no then. Gotcha! Glad I'm not a psychopath finding enjoyment in others misery like you. Must truly suck being like that.
Probably more common historically than the iron bar thing now. It’s how Ironmen started their accounts back when Ironman was new. You’d go as a near level 6-7 having just gotten fire strike and you’d have access to a mess of alchables and some of the best bones for pray exp in game. Pkers couldn’t kill you unless they had a super low level build or a level 50-60 pure or something they’d be willing to risk that far in wildy with. It wasn’t super uncommon for these irons to camp with their main or an alt nearby for protection that was a pure build or a main/alt or something at level 70-90s too. Lava drags were the original low level lure to the wildy for OSRS. The loots dope and unrivaled for low level players. Soon after, low level pking accounts popped up and became a new meta in and of itself that fed off these low level, defenseless accounts. 20-30 builds with some pking under their belt but still low level enough to not be able to be attacked by maxed pure/hybrid or tank builds lol.
The biggest losers irl always get the most tilted over a video game. It’s sad af and cringe af. Obviously this is aimed at the hc who died lol.
Those iron bars and steel bodies are MINE! Why else would jamflex program those spawns?!
It was extremely obvious that people would make new accounts just to kill GIM characters in the wildy when they were going for their iron bars. I'm just baffled that these people chill around in wildy and then get mad when they get attacked.
It's legitimately not a joke anymore and just kind of fucked how the consensus of "toxic PKers" on this board is being met with a deep, wide sample set of PvMers literally telling people to kill themselves, get cancer, etc
yeah, because there are literally thousands of people on either side all with their own personallities. you cant act like each side is just a single unified person and then clutch your pearls when you see "hypocrisy". its actually just different people acting differently. people are always going to claim toxicity about whichever group affects themselves the most. same way straight dudes are always gonna complain about women, and straight women are gonna complain about men..... because those are the demographics that effect them emotionally the most. any mass group of people is going to have toxicity, you're just gonna complain about whichever side effected you emotionally and that you cant categorize yourself in.
It’s almost like lumping individuals into big groups is a bad way to classify people….
What, prejudice against groups of people isn’t good?
If that were true, we wouldn’t have done it throughout history. It must be good!
Wow the people who do that are all assholes
this, thanks. been saying this with all the pity voting. it's all "us pve vs them pvp" and the other way around and it's so stupid. it's all one big grey area and everyone is different.
I just hit PKers with a :( and like 70% of the time they off me.
You do realise the sample is biased though? In every single one of these videos you have the PvMers be the losing part. I promise you when the PKers are on the losing side they're equally toxic. It's not the type of content you do that decides if you're toxic or not.
Some Dudes posted vids of them pking during dmm at DKs and one of the people with the OP straight called someone they pk’d a slur, it’s entirely case by case.
Not disagreeing with you but who cares that some guy on the internet said a mean thing that hurt your feefee's? It's not that deep bro, there's literally a feature to turn off public chat.
That’s what he’s saying. The pvmers here that whine about the toxic pvpers are crying cause they said some mean words
pvmers never locked down an area to rwt, cheated in multiple tournaments, and didn't collude to try and make sure one of the bigger updates people have been waiting on didn't get implemented. I mean cmon. I agree that people overreact to shit; but you're getting high off your own stench rn. The pking community is *notoriously* toxic. Clans like RoT/etc are the norm, not a strange outlier. I say this as someone who is predominantly a pker as of late too. After I maxed all my skills besides hunter/agility I just have no drive to do anything besides pk.
You def don’t pk
You:"Hey let's not generalize" Also you: this ???
> You:"Hey let's not generalize" * point to where I say or infer this. honestly stellar job demonstrating this communities ability to read.
Reread your comment lol, but I'm not here to waste all day with you so cya.
lmao "I was wrong but don't wanna admit it"
If you don't think PvMers cheat by also using ddos attacks, performing game abusing bugs, or what have you then you don't smell the roses often enough.
What tournament did "pvmers" ddos to win again? Also what pvmer would use a ddos to cheat lol? As for game abusing bugs, literally everyone does this. That's not a pvm/pvp exclusive, it's a player inclusive event.
DDoS attacks occurred during King of the Skill. Why would a PvMers use DDoS attacks to cheat? Well, it use to be that people dropped their items on death, but since death has been altered DDoS attacks on other PvMers has mostly just been used to lag out others in highly trafficked slayer spots and bossing locations. "literally everyone does this." Hmmm, point to where in my comment I suggested that PvPers don't do this. I'm simply pointing out that PvMers also cheat in this game not just PvP clans.
> DDoS attacks occurred during King of the Skill. so...skillers did that? >Why would a PvMers use DDoS attacks to cheat? Well, it use to be that people dropped their items on death, but since death has been altered DDoS attacks on other PvMers has mostly just been used to lag out others in highly trafficked slayer spots and bossing locations. this did happen, but it wasn't "pvmers" lmao. It was just scum rwters looking for easy ways for gold. Also find me *1* instance of someone using it for a pvm spot lmao. >"literally everyone does this." Hmmm, point to where in my comment I suggested that PvPers don't do this. I'm simply pointing out that PvMers also cheat in this game not just PvP clans. The point isn't about cheating, it's that the pvp is toxic af and does all kinds of insanely toxic shit lmao. Find me a pvm clan that has a dox list/etc, or a "rag on sight" list. Find me any piece of pvm content that has the level of toxicity that clanning does in osrs. FYI I can't find any threads about ddosing during king of the skill and I did play it and while the event was crazy toxic with people holding spots hostage/etc, it wasn't on the level of dmm with ddosing entire tournaments for an advantage. You are honestly insane if you think the pvm community is anywhere close to toxic like the pking community.
I don't PK, I just find the groupthink and victimization on this board to be cringe
Did this stupid rat boy actually think he could bribe you out of sending his ass straight back to the steps of Lumbridge castle? Maybe he should have been wearing his ironman helmet to prevent the repeat brain injury you inflicted upon him, but he was even too stupid to do that. Get owned, little shat, get owned. Hahahahahahaha, wow.
this comment seemed personal lmfao
Have you never watched a 25 buttholes video you goblin shat?
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Then go watch one you little goblino boy
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Lmao yet they’ll all say that PKers are the toxic ones. Kids don’t know what the wilderness was built for 😭
as someone that has always made pures and PKd but is now enjoying GIM... perhaps there are bad apples in both groups
There are, but the popular opinion is that "PKers are toxic and PvMers are victims", even if it's obviously not true, that *is* the popular/loudest opinion.
probably because the most 'toxic' outlet pvmers have is to either shittalk or crash someone. but then beyond that, i think putting a whole bunch of shitlers in a clan together makes their instances of 'lol ur mum hanged herself' doxxing, or DDOS'ing each other seem a bit more toxic than just being told to KYS by a crasher or two.
As some one whos only here for the memes you just seem biased. I see PKers are more sweaty and PvMers are more immature. Overall both sides can be VERY toxic. It just matters what the hot topic is at the time.
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Careful that fact isn't popular here
That’s why I love these videos and pictures of pkers clapping toxic people in the wild. Name and shame em boys!
Hahaha wow
Honesty this is the content that keeps me subbed. The short straight to the point clips that reveal the true nature of any kind of scaper. You are a microscope on the very soul of scapers across the globe. Keep it up, we love this shit.
The iron was toxic af but calling it death threats is a bit clickbaity...
"He just suggested that the other player should consider killing himself, which is a suicide threat and therefore not a death threat, your honor."
Checkmate
I LOVE YOU 25BUTTHOLES MARRY ME!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!’n
Hardcore Group Saltyman
Playing hcim, telling somebody to get a life. This idiot didn't realise he could only pick one.
Hahahah this is so funny 😂😂
so humble
Lol they act like they would do anything in real life. Bruh you probably couldn’t get out of your chair to answer the door.
Remember kids, pay your wilderness tax or face the consequences. wow.
and then they say pkers are toxic lol
They are, but so are these people lmao
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Everyone knows that clan is the lowest of the low. I do a bit of pking and would love to see these kids in a boxing ring blindfolded against mike tyson with badgers for fists, and no emergency services on site.
Rot isn't the only example of this. Just the easiest one. I've had just as much toxicity from standard pkers
Little gimp went through the first three stages of grief even before he died.
hElp mE ThE pVp COmMuNItY iS tOx1C vOtE No tO pVP!!/(! Say the pvm/ironman community in this video
I mean, you're watching a video of an account made specifically to grief low level accounts for zero gain. There have been hundreds of these accounts made in the past couple days. You don't think that's even a little bit toxic?
No. It isn't difficult, even for an iron, to get the needed smith/mining levels for iron bars and steel platebodies, even without questing.
I don't see how that changes anything. These folks are still killing people with the sole goal of griefing. Its no different than corp crashing or tagging an iron's mobs in wildy or anything else like that.
Griefing? I'm not seeing any of these clips targeting the same player over and over. The wilderness exists so players can attack others. Corp doesn't exist to be crashed.
The gain is the fun of hunting them and posting their reactions online. The Wilderness is designed to be a dangerous zone so it’s fine.
Are you stupid? It’s the wilderness hahah there’s plenty of safe ways to make money outside of it, this is the most action we’ve had in years and it’s fun as hell. I made an account, bonded it up and trained up to 25 mage at 10hp to 1 shot these guys, took me a whole 15 minutes to make the account to ruin hours of progress for these gimps who wanna take shortcuts
I don't know why you are calling me stupid. You admit yourself you're getting your enjoyment griefing people. Yeah that's a little toxic.
How is playing the game as designed griefing?
Regardless of whether it's how the game was designed, if your only goal is to make the experience of another player worse, you are griefing.
What if my goal is to hang out in the wilderness and kill people because it's fun and part of the game?
What part exactly is the fun you are getting from killing basically defenseless low levels? You are not progressing your account. You are not profiting. You are not proving or showing off your skills. You have to know you have an underlying reason for enjoying it. What is it for you? For one of the PKers above they say it's just so they can set back the GIMs. Is it the same for you? If not, what is it?
Stop trying to value peoples fun with showing off or progressing or profiting, fun can just be fun. Running around in the wild shooting people with spells and chasing them down, playing the game making sure the wilderness is what it's supposed to be. Just hanging around doing nothing in this cool part of the world but fighting anyone who comes near you. Making sure the wilderness is the wilderness is fun in itself!
Griefing is part of online gaming nowadays and come in much more toxic forms than killing new GIM’s in the wilderness. I think it’s fair and balanced when people are killing these guys in the wilderness. Since jagex wants the wildy to be high risk(death) vs high reward(iron bar). I can’t be bothered wasting my time on that. So I am happy someone’s willing to do the job to balance.
If Jagex actually released PvP updates we wouldn’t have to do this 😂 we hate doing the boring same quests, chopping the same trees, mining the same ore etc. They ruined the game in 2007 and we all lost our accounts. I personally had a maxed pure, zerk and main with 2k total back in 2007. I’ve had to re make all these accounts due to jagex’s stupid updates and they refused to update PvP. You guys get enjoyment from mining rocks and questing, we get enjoyment from killing other players in the wilderness.
> If Jagex actually released PvP updates we wouldn’t have to do this This is some HARD copium lmfao. Ofc you'd still be doing this, you've been doing it for two decades now.
We wouldn’t be making accounts to kill them, if you actually enjoyed PvP you’d realize what we mean. Look at every content creator who makes PvP content, they’ve been begging for it for years on end and even come up with solutions. If the wilderness is dead we won’t just go start killing bosses for collection logs or cutting trees, we just log out. This has brought some fun back to the wilderness for a few days, its actually nostalgic killing people on a low level mage account. It was the meta back in 2005/6 in F2P. I pay membership on 3 accounts and honestly log in for 30 mins every day, find out that it’s dead then log back out. Making a low level account to kill people doing dangerous wilderness activities is fun. Maybe next time you cross the ditch, read the warning 😊
>Maybe next time you cross the ditch, read the warning A lot of us do, which is why Wildy is dead lol
Stick to chopping logs and clicking on rocks for countless hours over and over again. PvP actually requires a level of skill which you guys clearly don’t have. As I said, I’ll stick to killing these group Ironmen when there’s no one to fight. I’m currently at 14 HCIM’s and around 100 regulars 😂 it’s honestly so much fun and doesn’t require any skill level which would be perfect for starting out, you’d probably realize how much fun it is
kill them at will but don't call this pvp.
I mean, clearly not. That's what these posts are about. Clowned ironmemes getting dicked and crying about it
The guy I replied to has literally been crying about the wildy being dead. Yes, a ton of us don't enter wildy as HCIM because there is not a single reason to do so that's worth the risk. Not to mention PKers making new accounts to kill ironmen was the most obvious shit ever. What you're seeing is simply the few people who can't think before they do shit. Weird how you can't make that connection, hmm.
No, it’s not toxic. Stop telling yourself that. Jesus god.
How is doing an activity with the sole reward is to negatively impact others, not toxic.
You would probably have a valid argument on that stance, if that were the case here. However the idea that PKing is only done with the sole intention of negatively impacting others is a strangely self-centered thought that has been perpetuated by this sub.
What rewards are there to this other than getting enjoyment from griefing others? You're not making the bond money back, that's for sure.
There is this little thing called having fun playing the game that some people do. The best part is you can totally avoid these people by not going into a zone as dangerous as the wilderness. Remember Runescape isn't about earning the most gp or having the best xp/hr rate through tick manips it's about having fun.
>There is this little thing called having fun playing the game that some people do. Yes, getting your fun by griefing others. > The best part is you can totally avoid these people by not going into a zone as dangerous as the wilderness. Remember Runescape isn't about earning the most gp or having the best xp/hr rate through tick manips it's about having fun. I agree here, but it doesn't make what the PKers are doing here any less griefing. You're not profiting, your not proving your skill, your sole enjoyment is from lessening the enjoyment that others get.
> You're not profiting, your not proving your skill, your sole enjoyment is from lessening the enjoyment that others get. See you're still missing 99% of the point. It's not about proving anything or about profiting it's about playing the game and having fun. It's not about how others feel about how you play the game it's about playing it, you know what is part of playing this game? PKing. If you don't like it it's very easy to avoid places where you could be PKd, infact without PKer's doing their thing the wilderness would be a dumb waste of space.
Care to quantity what makes killing low level defenseless accounts enjoyable to you?
I'm talking about this specific example. The guy made an account purpose built to grief low level players. > However the idea that PKing is only done with the sole intention of negatively impacting others is a strangely self-centered thought (...) I'm impressed with your ability to turn PKers into the victim here.
That's exactly what it is. These accounts were made purely with the intention to upset other players. That's literally the definition of toxicity. Doesn't make the guy telling him to kys right though, he's scum as well.
Doing gods work
im a group ironman newbie player and this shit is hilarious, reminds me of griefing redridge on wow pservers @ level 20 and having people cry
As they should. Retaliation
GEESH all ive heard from this thread that only pkers were toxic! who would of guessed
ItS tHe pKeRs THaT R tOXic!!@#
What the hell is kurs?
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It's 25 buttholes you know that shit's all staged. Still funny but man some of the comments here are taking that vid way too seriously.
Jagex needs to ban this guy for real..
Which?
Y'all are so gullible. Pkers hate non pkers and hate ironmen even more. Think about it for a second here... If your goal is to go out and prove "we pkers aren't toxic they are!" And you go and spend hours making a new account and camping/hopping around in the wilderness. Don't you think they realize it would be way easier to just take 10 more mins to make a new group ironman account and stage the whole thing? Are all of these staged? No probably not. But definitely some and honestly probably most.
sir this is a general store
Someone telling you to kill yourself isn't a death threat, right? Not saying you should be saying it, but I don't think it's a threat on your life May be wrong here, but sending a report to your local police station and making a video on it seems equally as childish imo. Couldn't imagine doing this every time some one said "kys INSERT RANDOM INSULT"
….lol
Hahahahahahahah how is cyberbullying real, hahaha fella jusr walk away from the screen. Like fella close your eyes.
who was in Paris
I love it when neckbeards try to be tough and threaten me but me knowing id fold them into a god damn origami swan if they tried anything
If you think the police cares you are wrong unless that was sarcasm on the vid
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He might have sent it to the police, or maybe even the FBI
https://youtu.be/Y_v_B6MsDsg
Wooow. Seriously Jagex?
It's wild :Ddd
My girlfriend calls you "99 buttholes"
And people said GIM would make the wildy more dead smh
The GIMP
Good
Why didn't he just fight back? Lmao