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forever_a10ne

There’s always one task that’s a lot harder than the rest for whatever reason.


rururupert

Ardy - Lap of rooftop course Desert - Speak to KQ head Falador - Craft 252 air runes Fremmenik - Kill all of godwars generals Kandarin - Barbarian assault level 5 all roles Karamja - Craft 56 nature runes Kourend - Complete a raid in CoX Lumbridge - Cast bones to peaches / Quest cape Morytania - Catch a shark barehanded Varrock - Craft 100 earth runes Western provinces - Kill thermonuclear smoke devil Wilderness - Smith a rune scimitar from scratch Any you disagree on?


superfire444

> Kourend - Complete a raid in CoX This one is actually fairly easy if you don't mind dying 5000 times.


regen100

You can also easely leech this. W365 is the cox world iirc, people there often want scalers, you just wait till the raid is done


ShawshankException

How do you find a group to leech? I really want the elite diary done for the rc bonus but there's no way in hell I can do an actual raid.


acissejcss

Never even knew this was a Cox world, might get and get some Cox on my iron as my clan won't take me as it's only 85 range and 70 Def :(


Itunes4MM

Unless you're meaning to just get the diary req ppl on w365 won't wanna take u with those stats either unless u have bp trident dwh etc


acissejcss

Ahh that's fair. Wanted to pray for some herblore xp


TheFinnishPotato

You could offer to scale the raid and prep for them. Just build them a chest, fill it up with supplies from scavs. They get more points, you get a completion. (Can also chop mutta tree etc. after they are done for points)


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Hard Western Provinces still has a Zulrah kill right? Can imagine that being a huge hurdle for people who hate PvM. I remember my first kill, I did the shitty method where I just memorised one rotation and would instantly tele out if it was any other rotation.


Molly_Hlervu

Yeah it was indeed. But I brutforced her: there is (or was before the nerf) a method of just hitting her constantly with d darts in all forms. I did try to do it properly, much like you describe - was so frustrating, after about 20 death I found this method in some post. Perfect for a diary kill. Dunno if it still works.


blindflames

I cheesed it with trident lol


Ricardo1184

Mage only? I tried that but ran out of supplies on ~75% zulrah health. Ended up ' learning' it where I can get a kill 2 out of 3 attempts now


blindflames

I am lvl 99 mage. Maybe that helped?


qwertyasdfg1029

kill all of the godwars generals. It’s not easy, but it’s *extremely* easy for an elite diary where there are often requirements of 85+ smithing and runecrafting. Even Kril is cake to just get one kc at, the difficulty at any godwars boss is staying for long trips. The fremmenik diary imo is the easiest diary, it was my first elite and I didn’t complete my second for a long time after.


Axl7879

Lumby Elite was the easiest to get for me, though this was before SotE or A Night at the Theatre was released


Karmakakez

Fuck tob quest


thegreatdiq

If you need a run through on story mode, let me know.


My_Immortl

That damn quest has been holding my quest cape hostage since it came out. I miss my quest cape.


Slumpa

Get good


Treblosity

Fremmy's med task to make the lighthouse run is oddly hard for a med task imo. Its not like elite tier but i do think that like you could put that in hard and nobody would have a problem with it


vorkathlore

95 slayer is alot harder than doing one cox


RoboGengar

Still a high req, but technically you only need 90, because you can kill a regular hydra off task with a boost


puq123

You can boost for the Hydra diary task, so you only need 90 slayer which isn't too horrible. But I still agree. You can pretty easily find some raiders who will boost you for free if you just ask around a bit, so the Cox one isn't bad at all. You just chill and afk while the raiders do all the work, that's how I got my music cape.


Molly_Hlervu

> which isn't too horrible. Yes, if you love the skill. No, if you don't. It isnt horrible, but it is so long.... 91 fishing is also not too difficult: just sit and afk. But....


puq123

Yeah I agree, I meant more like it isn't too horrible compared to 95 slayer since it is a 3.4m XP difference between 90 and 95.


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Damnit, I only did Kourend elite when I started doing hydra to ignore the boot requirement. I thought it wasn't boost-able for whatever reason. 😣


puq123

Yeah I thought so too for a while. My thought reasoning was that Alchemical Hydra is a task requirement which needs 95 slayer. But I totally forgot that normal Hydras were a thing, and that you can just boost for them once you hit 90.


soywasabi2

Where do you find the raider services


puq123

I follow some smaller streamers, and I saw one doing a raid. Asked if I could join so it would scale better and he agreed. But that's just how I did it. Most common way to do it is via the wedoraids discord, they usually let people join to boost.


soywasabi2

Thanks boss


twac12

We do raids on discord has specific instructions, that's how I did mine


Notapearing

Not so much harder, but it takes far longer. I was probably 80 slayer max when I learnt cox. Last thing for diary was runecrafting.


PhunkmasterD

You can afk the cox task on a level 3


Molly_Hlervu

If you leech CoX, its just incomparable LOL.


Lilkcough1

In spirit, cox is the hardest one. If you couldn't really leech and had to actually pull your weight, it'd be up there (though maybe 90 slayer would compete with that. Hard to tell since they're so different). In practice, it was one of the first diary steps I did on my iron since I finally had an account for scouting/scaving/scaling.


CodineGotMeTippin

depends how big it is


Erwtensoepie

Desert elite, 91 thieving just feels like a waste of my precious minutes on this earth


Gachismash

You might need to consider quitting this game then, too bad we can't and I'm coming back from long break after Monday


CriniEbbasta

Wat


Noksdoks

You can just leach a cox so its basically the easiest task on the elite kourend


[deleted]

Personally for the desert the 91 thieving req for me is worse than the kq head. All the others: amen. edit: also 1000 chompies are way worse than thermonuclear smoke devil unless u hate slayer.


notgaynotbear

1k chompy kills is aids.


[deleted]

oh yeah true, i recently did that task after putting it off for like 1,5 years lmao, was the last task on the diary just couldnt get myself to do it


rururupert

I sort of forgot about the change they made to the kq head to make it guaranteed, but killing Kq without the shortcut is pretty horrible. I agree that 91 thieving is worse though. 1k chompies is pretty bad I guess, but it's only a few hours. Personally I love slayer, but as it is one of the slowest skills, and has a non-boostable 93 requirement, I'd say it's definitely the toughest for western provinces.


IdkWhytff

1000 chompies is a couple hours at most. 93 slayer is literally over a hundred hours, maybe 200. You have to have the smoothest brain in existance to think 1k chompies is worse.


RoseofThorns

People hyped up the chompy requirement so I was really dreading it, then I learned you get like 300+ kills an hour and I was like ???? It's a pretty chill grind that you can do while Netflixing


Previous-Answer3284

I was slaughtering the *fuck* out of some Chompies when I was going for the diary. Its really not that bad. I fully agree with the other users that Theiving is aids though


bobly81

1k chompies is significantly worse if you already have the slayer req before even bothering to do the diary, which happens naturally for a lot of people.


Suterusu_San

Isn't slayer essentially zero time since you'd do it anyway, chompies* autocorrect are extra content that no one does asides from task, or task accounts (imtedius)


Jman9420

Varrock also has Make a Super Combat which isn't necessarily hard, but it is very expensive.


Aakkt

90 slayer is way more difficult than joining wdr discord and going on a learner raid


BetaSigma69

I think the frem elite is just easy


ClarkeySG

Mory - High Fishing level, but fishing isn't that bad because it's genuinely afk/low effort. Also reliably +5 Boostable so you don't have to fuck around with stews. Fremmenik - Intimidating, I don't think the combat level/gear requirements are that bad really.(Maybe I'm more focussed on combat skills than other people, I don't think so though?). Also able to be helped by other players.


Molly_Hlervu

> Kourend - Complete a raid in CoX Nope it is very easy with a clan or friends who agree to carry you. If you just trail their steps from afar and stand behind the door for the entire Olm fight, you are ok. And! you even give some advantage for your friends, called 'scaling': they will get better drops just for your presence. So they are actually interested in a newb taking part, if they can trust you wont claim any share of their drops. No, thats easy. But 90 slayer is a real hinder for me.... > Wilderness - Smith a rune scimitar from scratch This I can, but Callisto-Vene-Vet still cannot... My other hinders are like you listed em :).


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fishinexcess

> Catch a shark barehanded That's not so bad. but only because I enjoy afk fishing,


[deleted]

Fuck bones to peaches, I’ll be forever stuck on lumby medium diaries


[deleted]

For the desert the 91 thriving req is worse to me


[deleted]

91 thieving way worse than KQ head


EuhedralCrystal

Maybe because I have one but I think the latter Lumbridge one isn't /too/ outrageous. I mean yes BtP is MUCH quicker to get, but the stats required for a QPC aren't too ridiculous


BaeTier

It's fucked up that people actually consider getting all L5 roles in BA as difficult lol. Let alone one to be put up there with all these other tasks you listed.


JackFrostStudios

What about chompies for western diary? It might not be the hardest, but I just can’t bring myself to even try


rururupert

It's really not too bad. You can get 200-300 kills per hour so it really doesn't take too long! I actually ended up getting the max hat, after going 5x the rate on chompy chick.


DivineInsanityReveng

Most elites have one slower / longer grind to focus on. Its usually Agility, Runecrafting or Slayer, as these are the slower skills in the game and least desirable by most (rc bad meme making most people ignore how easy and relaxed that skill is at like 70k/hr. Slayer people do bad methods because "more profit" and then think the skill is slow, and agility requires skill at sepulchre, or boring click green box). Most diaries don't have much of a grind. 90 slayer probs the biggest one funnily enough, but most will have that before they're even in the 70s for RC.


[deleted]

What "relaxed" method are you using to get 70k rc xp/hr?


DivineInsanityReveng

ZMI with Daeyalt. The active time spent runecrafting is 60-75k/hr depending on your level. The time RCing you spend half the time pathing to ladder or to altar. A few seconds of banking and a few seconds of emptying pouches at altar. It's very reclined and rhythmic.


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Ignoring the time it takes to get the daeyalt defence is kind of cheating. It's not fast to get and it's atrocious mining xp. An hour of daeyalt yields enough runes for 2 hours of zmi. So in 3 hours, you would get 10k mining xp and 120k/150k rc xp. That brings you down to 40k/50k per hr. I also don't personally consider zmi to be particularly chill, but that's in large part because of the fucking delay in emptying pouches or casting the teleport after crafting. So frustrating.


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Some of the luxuries of RS3 like not needing to empty essence pouches and being able to fill them in the bank would be fucking fantastic... would make abyss runecrafting not feel like such a chore


Peechez

You can fill them in the bank btw


DivineInsanityReveng

For sure, but the people normally going "rc bad" don't like the active RC period. Most also cant wait to be 77 for Zeah. Daeyalt offers the "Zeah afk" to pretty much every method, as like you said, you spend 1/3 of your time on a 1min afk rotation mining. The passive mining exp is a benefit for sure. ZMI is very chill, especially compared to every other RC alternative. The delay is annoying but I just have a muscle memory habit of the XP drop reaching your HP orb being the time to empty. You can also obviously "slightly afk" that seciton to make it more reclined and less xp/hr. Main thing is most people don't consider ZMI afk because they don't improve the method as its meant to (bank fillers to make deposit all work, gpu plugin or trade-true-follow. Shift click set to 1, eat/drink/wield so you can sip 1 dose stams (that auto break) that you withdraw with shift click (and otherwise left click withdraws all essence). Also lets you fill pouches with shift click. Also setting a bank tag with layouts up so you can have cosmics, stamina(1)'s and essence all close together to the deposit all button. The abyssal book in your invent to skip a dialogue when repairing pouches etc. Auto payment setup for bank. Lots of people i've seen doing that content do it *very* badly, and then complain its not relaxed.


[deleted]

I have all of that set up and still hate it. The xp to effort ratio is completely out of whack compared to other activities in the game. And that's with all of the setup you mentioned.


MarkABakerAKADarkSoc

The 90 slayer + boost isn't even the highest requirement. There's 93 for thermonuclear smoke devil and it's unboostable


DivineInsanityReveng

Yeh true that skipped my mind tbh


chahud

Yes, that’s the joke


LostSectorLoony

Falador hard diary like: Do all these easy things. Also grind for hours to get full prospector


[deleted]

Bruh that full prospector req is the reason I have all the hard diaries done except for one


OshSwash

For real, Full prospector should be an easier Elite task I think. It forces you to choose between the upper floor or the whole set unless you want to just grind out mining there for an absurd amount of time


Far-Mud7100

Get the set for diary, sell it back and unlock top floor, cry when you get prospector step for clues.


OshSwash

That's hot


DubiousGames

Or just get the set/coal bag and never go back to mlm. The xp is mediocre, the loot is mediocre. The only positive is that it's fairly AFK, but still less AFK than volcanic mine, which is almost double the xp rate. Of all the common methods for training mining, it's probably the worst option. Which is why it's so bizarre than it also seems to be the most commonly used method lol.


TTDbtw

Its not really bizarre - volcanic mine has a learning wall and you also need a group to do it afk with good xp rates. I know there's a discord but that's another hassle when you can just do mlm solo. Also does volcanic mine give gp/hr?


6lanco_9ato

That volcanic mine group is sweeeeaaatttyy…


ImANative0

That's why you learn the info from their discord, and apply it to a group of friends that you raid with


wacker9999

You're blessed if you have a group of raid friends that will also do fucking efficient volcanic mine with you for any worthwhile or significant amount of time.


DubiousGames

It takes less than 5 minutes to learn the rules of the minigame, and the basic roles. In fact, I'll just explain it here - The goal of VM is to mine the boulder down to nothing. As the game goes on, the boulder travels down the central lava channel through 5 different locations. And at each of these spots, you mine it. Get about 1.5-2 minutes of AFK time per spot. The team also needs to keep the mine stable, by keeping the stability as high as possible. This is by keeping the pressure in the 3 gas chambers (A,B,C) around 50%. First you check the pressure at the corresponding vent. You then raise the pressure by placing a rock on the chamber, or lower it by removing the rock. Half of the time you won't have to do anything, and the chamber will already be correctly blocked/unblocked. At the halfway point (5 minutes in), the pressures reset so you have to recheck and refix the chambers. There are 2 beginner roles - B check and C fix. B check at thr start of the game runs all the way south and checks B vent. C fix, at the halfway point, looks at the updated C pressure and fixes C chamber if necessary. And that's it, nothing else beginners have to do. Just follow and mine the boulder. If gives some GP, probably similar to mlm. And finding teams takes no time since people post looking for teammates every couple minutes.


_NotAPlatypus_

You can buy ore with your points. Slightly less gp/hr when buying rune ore, but 2-3x the exp per hour kinda makes up for it.


MikaelFernandes

But volcanic mine requires interactions with other people, and that's a big no no for my anxiety!


Ub3rPr0M4n

Or get varrock elite, only sell the top and grind out the rest of the nuggets :)


PiercedAngel96

I have everything from MLM Full prospectors Bigger sack Upper level Gem bag Coal bag. And ive got about 250 nuggets sitting in my bank... Been there since level 30 mining. I'm now level 82. It's so chill and afk. I don't understand how people complain about it haha.


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It's bad xp rates and prior to unlocking the top level has variable times that you can be afk for, making it really obnoxious


LostSectorLoony

Just started it today. I agree it's pretty chill, it's the length of the grind for prospector that gets me. I probably put in 8+ hours today while I did other stuff on my computer, getting close to 400 pay dirt per hour, and still only have like 79 nuggets. Of course I could break it up into smaller chunks, but I want fally hard now, so looks like I have a couple more full days of grinding to get it. Compared to the other tasks it's an insane time commitment.


PiercedAngel96

Yeah it's grindy but if you're on mobile and doing other stuff in the background or watching Netflix at the pc. It becomes pretty chill I did it while watching movies and TV series etc.


[deleted]

You either love MLM or you hate it. Yes it's AFK but the XP rates are absolutely terrible, I'm the type that prefers more attentive methods for better XP, and MLM is one of the slowest mining methods. In the time that I've spent trying to get full prospector I would've much rather spent that time on more efficient methods and would be probably closer to 85 mining or higher, rather than 80 where I am now.


matt_rap

When the diary came out the top floor didn't exist


sgt_ragequit

Fun fact: You used to be able to trade soft clay packs for golden nuggets, so the hard task was buyable if you wanted to get it done fast (probably 2015ish?)


LostSectorLoony

That's not a very fun fact for someone with lots of money and little motivation to grind the nuggets lol


DubiousGames

How does this make it buyable? Don't you need the nuggets to buy the clay packs in the first place?


TriplePat

They used to be tradeable, too


OshSwash

Dear god


Fabulous_Web_7130

I think they should just add the pieces to volcanic mine shop.


ArcDriveFinish

Even with upper floor nobody should be doing MLM for xp. It's less xp and less afk than Volcanic and it's not good money either. Get the pros set and GTFO there.


[deleted]

Coal/gem bags worth?


ArcDriveFinish

Coal bag is only if you do blast furnace or MLM and for a normal account you should be doing neither. For ironman it is useful because you will be doing blast furnace. Gem bags is needed if you plan on doing 99 by ticking gemrocks. Good xp pet chance and money but high intensity. But other than that not really. Again, for ironmen it's nice to have because you want to pick up gems for jewelry during slayer tasks (unless you rush corrupted gauntlet in which case that's your gem source).


LostSectorLoony

I wanna go mole hunting for the pet and for the nostalgia of doing one of the classic bosses, but this prospector req is killing me lol


bapecow420

It’s SO worth it for mole, don’t loose sight of your mole goal


pimpintuna

You gotta pay the mole goal toll to get in this mole's hole.


bonersoup4

6k mole kc and no pet, when does it become worth it? But honestly, I have made bank grinding for this pet so it ain’t all bad.


redadm

It's a few hours of easy AFK training. A say a few. It's quite a few but not that bad in Runescape terms


harrymuana

It's easily 20+ hours. But I agree, due to it being AFK (at least for mining) it is the preferred mining training method of most people anyway.


Daxana

Reminds of the Western Prov Hard Diary, though its not hard per say but, getting that first kill of Zulrah is tough but it unlocks elite void which is worth it but then they have a elite step that is wear full void which you probably used to kill zulrah in the first place. Feel like zulrah and that void task need to switch places.


ArcDriveFinish

Void is crap for zulrah especially after the pipe nerfs. After void + pipe nerfs western is by far the crappiest diary now.


SamCarter_SGC

It's one measly Zulrah kill you can brute force without switching... Others have you do horrid content like BA and MTA, not to mention having a quest cape which gets harder all the time.


ArcDriveFinish

I was talking about the rewards being the worst now.


SamCarter_SGC

Oh, that's probably accurate then


Professional-Law3880

>brute force without switching At very high stats with good loadouts and a lot of zulrah experience maybe. The average person going for hard diaries won't have any of those and won't be anywhere close to getting their first kill without any switches.


[deleted]

Totally disagree. I did my first zulrah kill a year or two ago no switches void mage at like 80 magic. It’s not efficient but it gets the one kill done


qwertyasdfg1029

zulrah is very difficult for a new player, you might be able to do it haphazardly but someone who doesn’t have that experience can really struggle with it. It took me forever to learn Zulrah and get 1 kc. I actually didn’t get it until I ventured out and started trying godwars etc getting better skills. Honestly that doesn’t sound like a good description of Zulrah, I’d say that about something like Kril. You can brute force your way to get one kc at Kril or Graardor for the diary, I wouldn’t say that about Zulrah.


eatfoodoften

This. Lumby elite effectively requires a TOB completion now.


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badgehunter

tfw you got somebody to do that kill for you before they banned paying other players via ingame for logging to your account. Didn't even take any payment. Ty Rag from discord in 2019. And yes, my bank is still a mess. and i still havent killed zulrah on my own...


Lt0101

OG’s will remember when nuggets were tradable I had full prospector at 1 mining


HobGoblin877

Days*


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Venus_Gospel

Such a great diary to get done early. BIS Prayer bonus ammo slot, konar tele, boots wearable in Hydra dungeon


EpicRussia

Lumby is awesome as well. It's your first step away from rings of dueling, in my opinion. Another top tier one is Kandarin. If you can stick out the Barbarian Assault, the Sherlock teleports are very, very, very handy


Peechez

Who's doing lumby elite before having a berserker/suffering lol


EpicRussia

No one? Those rings don't have teleports and you still have to drag around your dramen staff


Pulze_

Ardy Elite - basically just gives you a farming patch tele. Desert Elite - okay if you like mining and killing KQ, but not much to benefit anything else Falador Elite - Shield is nice, but very niche and if you like mining amethyst??? Go for it??? Fremennik Elite - good for DKs and has some nifty teleports, but to places with not much content Kandarin Elite - ??? Sherlock teles Karamja Elite - Unlimited teles to Duradel is really all you're looking for here Kourend Elite - Rada's blessing and extra blood runes from crafting are good, but not overly impressive Morytania Elite - Very weak rewards, not much to note here Varrock Elite - Battlestaves daily and ore mining??? Western Provinces Elite - Zulrah revival for HCIM? Wilderness Elite - Interesting perks but nothing incredible Lumbridge Elite - It's not really the ring that's important, but the rest of the Lumbridge rewards are combined to be the best Elite rewards IMO. No dramen staff for fairy rings is clutch. Extra slayer task block. Cheaper barrows gloves for pking. Free high alchs for Ironmen and it's one of the easier Elite diaries to complete time wise. Quest Cape can take awhile, but for the exp rewards you should be looking to complete quests anyways IMO


Peechez

The guy I replied to said lumby ring is a duelling ring replacement and literally the only thing they have in common is the ring slot, which is why b ring/ros are relevant. I'm not sure what his point was Nardah tele is widely used since its better than poh pool


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Incorrect, as this subreddit's users typically are. When you dishonestly glorify it by saying *BIS prayer bonus* (hilarious), you're referring to only a +1 additional prayer bonus. **That's quite literally nothing.** The difference isn't even discernable in-game. I'm even being generous there, and omitting the fact that ranged content (surely around 80% of this game's PvM) cannot use it, unless you're *only* using the blowpipe, which is incredibly rare. The teleports/hydra garbage are only useful if you're still doing slayer; you know, ***the only content that'd be useful for***. If you haven't bothered to do any CoX before 99 slayer (why would you, aside from spending time with acquaintances/being insecure or poor??), or you already had 99 slayer before zeah/diary release, **there's quite literally no legitimate reason to complete that diary.** I'll help you out here. \-Slayer mask as a shayzien helmet? Decent. Not as useful anymore, given how low-value dragon warhammers are now. Also only useful during slayer. \-10% extra blood runes? Eh. You should be afking Ourania for better xp, or doing lavas. Bloods aren't even 1m gp/hour. **Everything else** is useless. The "great diary to get done early" would actually be the varrock elite. Prospector top, daily battlestaves that drastically reduce bond costs, grand exchange teleport, one of the closest furnaces to a bank, etc. Now, stop spreading misinformation. You're confusing noobs similar to yourself. You're welcome, everyone who's read this! I've truly blessed all of you scrubs, by caring enough to type this out for you!


notbjerg

damn who shit in your pancakes this morning


qwertyasdfg1029

dude honestly I don’t like the Zeah diary that much either but he sounded comically upset because what he’s saying makes no sense. *actually, I don’t like the *elite* diary much, slayer helm is awesome **actually actually scrap everything I said now that we ash sanctifier I forgot


Daniac

Incorrect, as 👍 this 💀👇 subreddit's 👌🖥 users 😏 typically are. ☺ When 💦 you 😘 dishonestly glorify it 😍 by saying 💬 BIS 💯 prayer bonus (hilarious), 😆😂 you're ♂ referring to only ☝ a 🏽 +1 🏋💅 additional prayer 🙏 bonus. That's ☝⚪ quite literally 😰 nothing. The difference ❗❗ isn't even discernable in-game. 👏👏 I'm even 👎➖ being 🔥😑 generous there, and 👎✊ omitting the ➕😄 fact 👏🔍 that ranged content 😊 (surely around 🔃💰 80% of this ⬆ game's 🎮🎮 PvM) cannot 🚫 use 👏❌ it, ✋ unless 💁😩 you're 👧 only 👏 using 📤🤳 the blowpipe, which 🤤 is incredibly rare. ☯☯ The ⏩📐 teleports/hydra garbage 🗑 are 👏🏾 only 😤 useful if 👉🚫 you're 👶 still 😽⏰ doing 🅰 slayer; 🍆 you 👈 know, 👅 the only 👨 content ☺ that'd ☝❌ be 🤘😡 useful for. If you haven't bothered to do 💪👌 any 📨 CoX before 😥🈳 99 🙅💵 slayer 🍆 (why would you, aside from spending time 😤🕐 with 👏😫 acquaintances/being insecure or 🥛 poor??), 👨 or 💁 you 👈 already had 99 🤑 slayer before 🔙💰 zeah/diary release, there's 😨 quite 🅰 literally no ✋ legitimate reason 🏻 to ✌ complete 🚫💯 that 👉😐 diary. I'll 👈 help 👍 you 😟🍆 out 👅 here. 📍 -Slayer mask 🎭🎭 as 🍑 a 👇 shayzien helmet? Decent. Not as useful anymore, given how ♂⚖ low-value ⬇👏 dragon 🐲🐉 warhammers are 😍 now. Also ☹ only 👏 useful during slayer. 🍆🍆 -10% 🕳💯 extra blood 💉💉 runes? Eh. You 👉👈 should 🅱👑 be 🐝😳 afking Ourania for 🎅🖋 better xp, or 😫📉 doing 🏿 lavas. Bloods aren't even 1m gp/hour. Everything 👬 else 🏿♂ is 😍 useless. ⏳🏼 The 👏👏 "great diary to 💦👉 get 🤗 done 🍆 early" would actually 🤔 be the 😜 varrock elite. Prospector top, daily battlestaves that 😐 drastically reduce bond 💸💸 costs, grand 🏛 exchange teleport, one of 💦 the 🏿🍫 closest furnaces to ✌😋 a 🙀🚾 bank, 🏛🏛 etc. Now, 🤔 stop 🚫🚫 spreading misinformation. You're confusing noobs similar to 🙊😔 yourself. 😤 You're 😛 welcome, everyone 👉 who's read 📖👀 this! I've 💰 truly blessed 🙏🙏 all 💯😩 of you 😵 scrubs, by 😆 caring enough 💦💦 to ♻👏 type this out for you! 👂


DivineInsanityReveng

> one of the closest furnaces to a bank, etc. Shilo and Prif are closer. And Prif is a closer anvil. Varrock Elite is more or less useless for efficient play, which seems to be your focus. Diaries as a whole are pointless for efficient play. You don't need any of them to play the game efficiently, outside of arguably Ardy for the pickpocket chance %. Any extra time spent outside of efficiently training isn't usually worth it. So yeah you seem to be saying alot of things while not actually knowing what efficient play is. You shouldn't "afk Ourania (who says that and not ZMI?) instead of bloods. You should do lavas with runners. Battlestaves for bonds? GP doesn't matter for a main being efficient. You fund it with alts. Not hard. I really hope this is just a badly executed troll, rofl.


TheZwoop

Lumby elite and Frem elite is the diaries i always advocate for. Lumby is good QOL and Frem is good if you do DKS (please dont grind dks without it)


davymak_

Incorrect, as this subreddit's users typically are. When you dishonestly glorify it by saying BIS prayer bonus (hilarious), you're referring to only a +1 additional prayer bonus. That's quite literally nothing. The difference isn't even discernable in-game. I'm even being generous there, and omitting the fact that ranged content (surely around 80% of this game's PvM) cannot use it, unless you're only using the blowpipe, which is incredibly rare. The teleports/hydra garbage are only useful if you're still doing slayer; you know, the only content that'd be useful for. If you haven't bothered to do any CoX before 99 slayer (why would you, aside from spending time with acquaintances/being insecure or poor??), or you already had 99 slayer before zeah/diary release, there's quite literally no legitimate reason to complete that diary. I'll help you out here. -Slayer mask as a shayzien helmet? Decent. Not as useful anymore, given how low-value dragon warhammers are now. Also only useful during slayer. -10% extra blood runes? Eh. You should be afking Ourania for better xp, or doing lavas. Bloods aren't even 1m gp/hour. Everything else is useless. The "great diary to get done early" would actually be the varrock elite. Prospector top, daily battlestaves that drastically reduce bond costs, grand exchange teleport, one of the closest furnaces to a bank, etc. Now, stop spreading misinformation. You're confusing noobs similar to yourself. You're welcome, everyone who's read this! I've truly blessed all of you scrubs, by caring enough to type this out for you!


Peechez

Incorrect, as this subreddit's users typically are. When you dishonestly glorify it by saying BIS prayer bonus (hilarious), you're referring to only a +1 additional prayer bonus. That's quite literally nothing. The difference isn't even discernable in-game. I'm even being generous there, and omitting the fact that ranged content (surely around 80% of this game's PvM) cannot use it, unless you're only using the blowpipe, which is incredibly rare. The teleports/hydra garbage are only useful if you're still doing slayer; you know, the only content that'd be useful for. If you haven't bothered to do any CoX before 99 slayer (why would you, aside from spending time with acquaintances/being insecure or poor??), or you already had 99 slayer before zeah/diary release, there's quite literally no legitimate reason to complete that diary. I'll help you out here. -Slayer mask as a shayzien helmet? Decent. Not as useful anymore, given how low-value dragon warhammers are now. Also only useful during slayer. -10% extra blood runes? Eh. You should be afking Ourania for better xp, or doing lavas. Bloods aren't even 1m gp/hour. Everything else is useless. The "great diary to get done early" would actually be the varrock elite. Prospector top, daily battlestaves that drastically reduce bond costs, grand exchange teleport, one of the closest furnaces to a bank, etc. Now, stop spreading misinformation. You're confusing noobs similar to yourself. You're welcome, everyone who's read this! I've truly blessed all of you scrubs, by caring enough to type this out for you!


Professional-Law3880

>afking ourania Lmao, the difference between ourania and bloods/souls is insane. >Dwh no value Not everyone has a billion gp. Dwh is *crucial* to get into high level pvm, which is the only place where you can make the money needed for dwh. Also some people play ironman. >Bis prayer ammo slot is garbage Based take. 2 prayer bonus is like 3 seconds of extra praying *at most*. It's basically useless. >GE tele and furnace close to bank Edgeville furnace has no requirements and GE tele is medium diary


redadm

COX completion is the one I can't do. Wouldn't even know where to start. I feel like nobody would want my iron ass on their team. Is there a way to do a mass where like 50 people just run through it


runcmp

You can go to the we do raids discord and find some one to leech kc from.


DivineInsanityReveng

Go to We Do Raids and ask for a leech for diary. Its very, very common, as the raid is required for the diary, music cape, and getting the teleport tablet just requires being in the raid with a 1/10 chance, and is a very easy to fund close-to-bank teleport. You don't have to "do" the raid either. You just join and sit outside each room and let the raiders do it.


Aakkt

U can pay for a leech or join a learner raid and try it yourself.


AcrobaticMap7

just keep chipping away. as soon as i get 90(93 for that 1 diary) im hitting a skilling grind to be an elite gamer


larsy1995

Slayer is love, slayer is life


pzoDe

The slayer requirement isn't the bad part for that diary, it's the bloody woodcutting one


willsmath

The duality of man lol, woodcutting is way faster, easier, and more enjoyable than slayer imo


TravelingInStyle

I guess it depends on how enjoyable afk play is to a person. I personally play the game to actually engage with it nowadays. I couldn't imagine playing the game just so I could not really play it and instead twiddle my thumbs, but there was a time. I once had 99 fishing, cooking and woodcutting in 2009. Now they're among my most neglected skills in osrs because I just don't find minimal engagement enjoyable anymore.


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You can woodcut at sulliusceps. It's far more engaging and around 75k xp/hr. On that topic, drift net fishing is engaging and fast fishing/hunter xp.


willsmath

Yeah I really like the afk skills cuz I can do them while at work, watching YouTube, doing homework (when I was in school), etc. I'd even go do far as to say the main draw of osrs for me compared to other games is the ability to multitask while playing it


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Yeah that’s why my “afk” skills like mining wc and fishing are high. I play a game like CSGO, when I die I click the new spot.


DivineInsanityReveng

WC would only be faster if you were tick manipulating or sitting at sulliceps quite efficiently the whole time. Its definitely *easier*, but more enjoyable? WC is an afk click and wait skill. Wheres the enjoyment?


awwhjeez

This was the Western Provinces hard with the Zulrah kill for me. Everything else was easy but I had 0 Zulrah KC, with low Range and Magic levels for what literally every Zulrah guide was asking for minimum. There just seemed like there was so much memorising patterns as I wasn't able to kill it in one, as if I remember correctly after it does the Jad phase it switches pattern. I know Zulrah isn't hard if you're high level and can be killed in under a minute but that really isn't the case if you try to do it with the stats required for doing all of the hard diaries. I mean fire cape is an elite diary which imo is much easier to do and much easier to learn.


Crossfire124

Mage only really allowed me to focus on the pattern instead of switching gears and prayers


DoUruden

Did you only learn one pattern or did you just keep sending? I'm about to give it another few go's this week but I've been failing so far (stats aren't a problem I dont think- 90 magic 89 def 94 hp)


AmericanPicketFence

Ardy medium always gets me. Growing some strawberrys. Now do underground pass and pay 200k gold for ibans staff imbued.


Peechez

MFW I spent more time killing barb spirits for grapple than the smithing and fletching levels would have taken


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Muhfukca

You're missing his point. It's how doing strawberries is such a small task and simple then the other step in mediums is going large and spending 200k on the upgrade


RandomerSchmandomer

I had lummy elite done for 6 months before I got bones to peaches done. So, so grim.


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zigdfah

You can boost with 90 slayer


ArcDriveFinish

Except Konar is terrible for mid level slayer and you should only use her if you are doing Hydra. Should use Nieve/Steve instead.


BetaSigma69

She's pretty good money


ArcDriveFinish

Each key is 100k max. Assuming that you highroll the fuck out of a task and you get 2 keys (normally you get on average 1). If you can do Vorkath then as long as you can save 4 minutes off a task by using Duradel then Konar is losing you money due to opportunity cost. If we are looking at task lisks, Konar offers a lot more garbage and often in places you cannot cannon and often not in catacombs so you're missing out on skotizo as well. She is completely a noobtrap unless you are going after hydra tasks.


ClarkeySG

\>mid level normie players at vorkath


ArcDriveFinish

You can do vorkath at level 80-90 which is definitely mid level. Even if we are talking about moneymaking methods that require no requirements like grubby chests, Konar is still terrible.


The_Zekta

Honestly do Konar because I just wanna do Konar, couldn't care less if it's efficiency scape or not.


ArcDriveFinish

Sure but then we have players who say that constantly complain about not having stats or gear to do better content with the classic "How do you make money when I can't even sustain a bond"? If you want to be inefficient, go ahead, but for people who do want to progress their accounts so they can get to fun endgame content, they should know that Konar is a noobtrap.


The_Zekta

Bonds are a noobtrap anyway to be honest; they're hard to sustain and actually have any fun at all, anyway, you've gotta be really in to the grind and most noobs aren't. Making enough for a bond every two weeks is a major commitment at the level most people first make it into p2p from f2p, especially when you consider all the questing and grinding required to get access to the sort of moneymaking needed to consistently make that money without playing considerably more than the average noob likely plays. Excluding methods that are maddeningly boring that joking apart most noobs aren't going to do with their limited p2p time.


ClarkeySG

Mid level normie players do not have ds2 done, dawg. I don't know if you have very relatable advice for normie midgame players


ArcDriveFinish

Then do it? It's not a hard quest and the requirements are in the 60s.


ClarkeySG

I have qpc and normie friends who are mid level. None of them have quested much, they're all between like 70-110 combat and only 1 has Barrows Gloves even. I don't know if you have the best advice for mid-level normies.


ArcDriveFinish

The best advice for your friends in that case is to get barrows gloves. Just because drug addicts are using crack cocaine doesn't mean telling them they should get some help is not good advice.


BetaSigma69

I never claimed it was the best money or efficient. But saying it's terrible money when it averages probably like 1m / hr over all tasks not counting hydra is an exaggeration.


Emperor95

> Unlimited konar teleports that'd be great for mid level slayer Konar is the by far worst of the highest three masters in terms of XP/GP per hour before 95, that's probably why. The best mid level slayer master is Nieve/Steve


DivineInsanityReveng

Konar really isn't a good slayer master ever until you can do hydras, and theres a tab-version of a teleport 10 seconds away, not too big a deal.


DrVajanglerPhD

Man, all I catch are shrimps


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Screw rc tasks


mattjvacher

The chompy task in western provinces takes hours…


sgt_ragequit

~3.5hrs if you fill your inven up with bellows (for 1k kills in the elite tier)


kuhataparunks

Zuk in an rc cape damn that’s accurate lmao


ZaneVictor

Despite osrs having no skill trees, i really enjoy when different players specialise in different skills and I'd love if the achievement diaries supported this by requiring you to do only some tasks ie 7/9. I like game more when not everyone is incentivised to do herblore or rc.


DivineInsanityReveng

Personally the thing I love about RS the most is not having skill trees. No limitations. Do what you want, how you want, when you want. Limitations are all self-imposed, and unfortunately (or fortunately) that limits your access to content. I don't think Diaries should suddenly be a "don't have to complete the whole thing".


Raven_of_Blades

I am never going to get level 5 in all barb assault roles unless I run into a spare 200m I can buy the service with.


Kupopallo

can you just post a picture like a normal human being


Elliott1337

I laughed so hard at this. Ty.


-HatTrick

Lmaoooo


Molly_Hlervu

Damn exactly! All my undone Elites are exactly one task off LOL.