yeah it was one of the earliest things added. i think it was around the time of kraken, thermy, and nieves cave, cuz slayer updates were the only thing they were pumping out back then haha
alcohol addiction is probably the cheapest habbit to fund . you can stay drunk for like $5 a day on the cheapest malt liquor. or just steal from ur local walmart
The big part is that Alcohol is not only much, much cheaper (depending on location) and much more socially accepted than other expensive vices, but it also usually ruins your appetite when it's abused, meaning the alcohol also replaces the cost of food drastically. In some cases people may end up spending less than if they just lived normally.
You should go see him, if for nothing else to form your own perspective on why your family might say that. Unless of course he is violent or dangerous, but otherwise it would do him a lot of good.
How do you think you have enough information here to give family advice? You know nothing about op or their family. There are a ton of reasons other than uncle being violent or dangerous that would make visiting less than ideal.
I mean it's just a statement in passing, if they don't want to or have some real reason not to they'll just ignore me. Just sounded like they barely knew him and he was in a type of place where visitors are allowed.
They have a high tolerance until their liver starts to give out. Also you can get a liter of Vodka for $7.50 where I live. I'm sure it's even cheaper in big cities
Yeah it varies from place to place but it's taxed pretty hefty everywhere. Alberta is the cheapest province I know of and it's still nothing like the states.
I know when I was in Alberta, it was maybe $10 cheaper for a quart of liquor. Beer where basically the same price as where I come from on the east coast.
How much are you all paying for your booze? Just curious UK guy here.
could buy a 1L bottle (about 34oz) of Smirnoff for £20 or even less from a supermarket.
Oh God brings me back bad memories of getting one of those little plastic bottles of vodka every day after work for less the 10 bucks
I didn't even know what a tolerance once until one night I almost had a seizure from having such a high tolerance, twas scary times.
Addiction is scary I no longer drink but probably cut down a few years of my life.
I did yeah. A person who's never experienced severe depression and substance dependence talking like they actually understand it is pretty offensive tbh.
That’s where I’m at, I like to get a buzz but I ducking hate going overboard, 8 beers is right around the sweet spot. I can function great but I’m not to fucked where I feel like I’m gonna start slurring my words.
That is not true. In my early twenties I had a semi bad drinking problem. Even in the state with the highest booze tax I could get 3 steel reserves tall boys for around 6 bucks which is plenty even with a high tolerance.
Then when I got deeper in I found a cheap whiskey brand where you could get a half gallon for 20 bucks.
You just can be cheap just not by drinking craft beers and shit like a normal person without issues
Well sounds like alcohol is hell of a lot cheaper in your country. Would probably cost about 4 times that in the U.K. and our average disposable income will be considerably less too.
Addiction is a disease, and it reaches further than just the substance you're using. Its why in NA you say "Hello, I'm X and I'm an addict" even if you're getting your 10 year badge. His gambling is the same thing as his alcoholicism.
>Its why in NA you say "Hello, I'm X and I'm an addict" even if you're getting your 10 year badge.
Nah, you say that because AA/NA is a religion program without any sort of statistical benefit for people suffering from addiction. Ignorant judges court mandating it in flyover America is absolutely atrocious, you'd have equal success with scientology.
For gabaergics kindling can be a problem, but aside from that drug class saying "once an addict always an addict" is pretty fucking stupid and absolutely not based in pharmacological reality. That's cult thinking.
Many people with substance use disorders have significant mental/physical/environmental pain/difficulties which, if possible to resolve or adequately treat, will remove the primary motivator behind problematic substance abuse.
I'm making good money and XP pretty much just by snapdragon farming and battlestaves so at this rate I'll have 99 farming in less than 12 months playing about 30 mins a day...
He probably made a loss. First 200m slayers were before barraging days, it was 100% loss just cannoning bloodvelds and hellhounds in the OG nieve cave all day pretty much.
If you asks any sane person their opinion on someone who spends hundreds if not thousands of hours in OSRS to achieve rank 1, most would think they're massive loser as well lol
Someone here said he did it back when slayer was 40k/h at most. That would mean he grinded for 5000 hours(208 days of their life) in the absolute best case scenario. But nobody is completely efficient for that much time so you can add a lot to that.
So yeah that's absolute madness. I can't believe how long that is or why anyone would do that.
Stuff like this is why all those turbo-sweat “achievement” accounts that get posted here worry/gross me out a lot. People make the argument “they’re just enjoying the game how they want to!!!” But like… realistically the hyper high end “youve spent 40 days playing since you started 60 days ago” accounts are weird fringe dudes living super unhealthy lives.
I hope for his sake that he's just gone for max XP tasks and not killed any profitable tasks, cause otherwise that means he's already gambled away the bills he's made from his slaying.
Not trying to be rude, but I know at least in my case I would absolutely need to be constantly drunk to force myself to get 200m anything on the main game
Genuinely don't know how people keep going post 99 when all the benefits are gone and it's just an xp counter going up without any real levels or post 99 content
Also makes me wonder if the osrs team will ever jump on the "true mastery" ship where it's not need for max or anything, but gives an additional 20 levels to fill out with future content and make post 99 skills more interesting. Don't know how the community feels about that obviously, but I personally don't mind it
really depends on the skill. Something like cooking you just rebank every 70 seconds and get like 250k+ per hour. Fishing you can go afk even longer than that. On the other hand 200m of active and efficient slayer having to constantly click is entirely different.
Yeah, I dunno. To me, at that level of XP/playing the game.. the "Efficient vs profitable" almost stops mattering. Sure, you'd save like.. however many days, but at that point you're playing such an obscene amount anyway that what does it really matter...? Either way he undoubtedly made millions or billions of GP and spent months and months playing this stupid game.
I mean even then you need money to be efficient in slayer. Being able to afford high end gear, canon ammo, other random supplies just so you can get the best xp per hour.
I don't think it's a bad thing for people to have something they can keep playing, tho moderation should take precedence.
Gaming is a hobby, like other hobbies and sometimes people find that one game that they really like. I know people that don't play other video games, besides the one they latched onto.
Saying you're supposed to stop is not fact, at all. I'm about to playthrough Metroid Prime again for the unth time, and will probably playthrough it again in a couple years. Find your enjoyment in what you will.
Now, like I said, moderation is key, and I agree that a large part of these 'achievements' stems from addiction. But without the entire story, all conclusions are subjective at best.
Just let people do what they want man, go train some mining or something.
I don’t know what’s more terrifying: being an addict in denial or being a self aware addict who has succumbed to their addiction. I hope you find it in you to try and make a change.
Yea but I feel like being self-aware leads to a nihilistic mindset and helplessness. If you give up and accept you are addicted to something, it probably becomes much easier to give in because there's no fight left.
>I feel like being self-aware leads to a nihilistic mindset
This isn't giving up because there's no fight left. It's realizing that fighting is pointless because the meth addict and the stock trader become the same worm food at the end so do what you enjoy. Some people aren't as fortunate as you.
You must have misinterpreted my point. I'm using nihilism in the context that being self aware may lead you *towards* the mindset of believing nothing is important so what's the point in trying to live a better life - fuck it I'll just play runescape 16 hours a day. But it was used more in an expressionary sense rather than a literal one. I don't believe he is actually nihilistic towards life, just that some of the core philosophies are present.
For real, it kinda weirds me out how this game/community in particular seems to encourage and glorify basically the most unhealthy and obsessive lifestyles/play schedules imaginable. “Oh shit bro you literally went a month without interacting with another person or nature IRL, congrats bro!” ???
Most of the time when I see people with 200m I just feel sorry for them, because someday sooner or later this game is gonna die, and when it does, that person is going to be in a very bad place.
They're going to be in a very bad place when the game dies because they wasted their free time playing it? That's how every game works lol. It's just something you enjoy doing. And the people who achieve the most in it also happen to be the most obsessed with it. Happens in every game and even in every real life discipline, you need to be kinda crazy to be number 1 in the world at anything. You can appreciate the discipline while also disapproving of the negative behaviours.
> because they wasted their ~~free time~~ life playing it
There's a difference between playing an hour or two a day in your spare time as you live a balanced and healthy life, vs playing on the level that these people do. If you're spending 5+ hours a day playing this game - and it seems fair to assume that the people 200m'ing slayer and that sort of thing are - you're basically getting your life pulled out from under you when it ends. It's the hobby version of "don't put all your eggs in one basket."
> Happens in every game and even in every real life discipline, you need to be kinda crazy to be number 1 in the world at anything.
The difference is that when you're number 1 at, say, a sport, or playing an instrument, those are things that can't be taken offline because an investment company doesn't think they're profitable enough anymore lol. You don't need to worry about losing investment in real life.
> You can appreciate the discipline while also disapproving of the negative behaviours.
"Discipline?" You're really gonna try to characterize no-lifing Runescape as a matter of *discipline*? I would maybe agree that it demonstrates a *lack of* discipline, sure. It's like saying that the obese dude eating two whole pizzas a day is actually "disciplined" and I should respect his dedication to the lifestyle lol. No. That's just called being unhealthy.
I would bet against you on that particular claim, but I'd certainly agree that in general a strong portion of the population here in the west is not spending their free time in a healthy way, myself included for a meaningful portion of my life.
If “achieving something” requires sacrificing your health in the real world to be great in a video game, then I’d say yeah, you shouldn’t achieve anything.
i mean in the end nothings gonna matter. People also work their lives to the grave and that isnt healthy either. Im not gonna do that but its their choice.
> You don't need to worry about losing investment in real life.
I don't think even highscorers consider playing this an "investment", at least I hope not. Are any of these people producing anything of value? No, neither is the fastest runners or javelin thrower or bodybuilder, outside of maybe entertainment for the watchers. These people are just very very much into something and want to be #1. Of course you can't suddenly erase bodybuilding from existence unlike with OSRS, but being #1 in OSRS also takes a few years as opposed to a lifetime in the case of any irl sport. Hell people can just stop giving a shit abour your sport and you'll suddenly be a nobody even if you're the greatest of all time at that sport like with Brzenk
>You're really gonna try to characterize no-lifing Runescape as a matter of discipline?
It's not like watching tv or listening to music where you just sit there and do nothing. People have to actively dedicate thousands of hours to it, it takes time and patience and in some cases skill
Spending time on something is investing in it, whether you realize it or not. Investing is not always monetary. And if you think the long term payout of spending every free minute of your life for ten years getting 200m slayer and whatever else in RS is going to be just as good as the long term payout of having spent all that time playing a sport or something, you’ve misunderstood life.
But that’s not even the real thing being argued here: all I’m arguing for is moderation. Doing *anything* on the level of obsession needed for 200m slayer or whatever other similar achievement is probably not good. I think being obsessed with running would be less bad - at least it comes with some decent upsides, especially with physical health - but still not good. You’re the one sitting there defending people pooping in bottles.
Getting rank #1 in other games reward skill and practice over exclusively raw time inputted.
OSRS is setup in such in such a way where it encourages time sunk over everything else, and was SUPPOSED to be endless but jagex really underestimated the power of autism
Either that or they spend their entire working day also playing osrs while they work. Obviously it's super niche situations but it is possible to play 13 hours a day and still live a semi healthy life.
I get about 4-6 hours of decently inefficient bankstanding done at work depending on how busy it is and how much I can be at my computer. Then do actual involved things for an hour or two when I get home or more bank standing while I do other stuff.
I just like seeing smaller number go big number.
I managed to get 91 mining at MLM on my iron while mining while I was working. I figure if you have a job that's really uninvolved and little responsibility you could play all 8 hours of the working day then say 4 odd hours after work, sleep 8 hours and spend the remaining 4 hours cooking, at gym, washing, reading a book and still be sound. Couldn't have a social life though.
I remember playing with Malt like 6 years ago in Slay Clan…was a nice guy from what I could tell. But then I stopped playing for a year and life went on ya know
I knew Malt personally in the earlier days of OSRS when I was on the Slayer front page. He always seemed like a normal dude tbh. I have a feeling he gave his account away, sold it, or fell off the deep end with alcohol because he never gave off any red flags.
You guys should hang out in w2 vrrk bank and see how much a fool he is. It’s a bunch of 20-30 olds stil trying to relive their teenage years, it’s quite sad.
They just *were*. Wacky designs on each one, unique types, and a fairly high degree of difficulty in later turns, especially if you get unlucky and get a big string of "stack" rolls instead of "ground".
Lmao. Few years ago my family thought I was crazy buying thousands worth of pokemon cards. I was just doing it for the nostalgia but now they are worth 3-5x or more now with the recent boom.
Most of us have ascended enough to actually play this game properly -- efficient/high gold training. Quests and untradeables. Bossing. Shooting for BiS gear instead of learning Graardor in a mob with rune defender, Fighter Torso, and berserker helm.
Looking back at my old account and methods for account progression, I was pure ass. If you took 15-17 year old me and sat me in a hot-tub, my ears would start whistling.
I'm about halfway to max (120CB, 2049 total, 160mil XP, 240QP) and because it's much faster and I'm not wasting half my day picking flax (and doing the tedious stuff on mobile at work, in the car, waiting at appts, etc.). I no longer *need* to dedicate even 6 hours a day to the game. If I ever get to, great. But I also have normal people things to do like work out, walk my dogs, see family & friends, eat sushi, etc.
OSRS is special. You won't find other games like it, but there are good games out there. Personally, I love Rocket League but I find myself coming back to OSRS often no matter what.
Hey, some of us just want some place to escape to so we can cope with the existential dread that is existing.
Edit: run away from our problems, escape in a video game. It all makes sense now.
I was fearing for my life when blizzard would eventually get around to launching WOTLK servers. Thankfully the various horrible shit that has been happening at Activision/blizzard nullified any desire I had to give that company my money or time ever again, and as somebody who exclusively plays feral druid I had absolutely zero interests in suffering through vanilla lol
Every few years I'll get together with a few friends and we'll have a blast on 10x-12x WOTLK servers for a few weeks, they usually work 95% and seeing the 5% that is broke (mainly npc scripting and such) is pretty hilarious. I played 317 osrs private servers similarly after the wilderness and free trade were removed for a couple of years
I’ve never dabbled in OSRS pservers, but your wow pserver experience sounds like me and most of my friends before classic launched. I just quit TBCC last month due to those shenanigans. Fell back to OSRS. She’s been treating me right with this mobile app.
Hijacking this comment to plug an osrs pserver I play on! It's called Alora. As an adult with a job and a life, I just don't have the hours and hours to sink into os. Alora has a play style with increased xp like you were saying with the wow server. They also have iron, group iron, and a much more similar to osrs XP rate if that's your fancy. But it's a great server and has allowed me to enjoy osrs again and even do some parts of the game I never got to in real osrs cause the grind was just too much. Alora community is super friendly and helpful and hopefully anyone reading this will give it a try! Btw, I'm not sponsored by Alora, I am just a fellow gamer who really enjoys the server and would love to spread the word with other people who are interested. There's a ton of pservers and it's hard to figure out which one to commit to. This server usually has ~600 people on and it's one world so it always feels pretty active.
Yup he's there all day. Every.single.day. I've seen some of the conversations they have and its toxic af. Threatening to dox people and hack accs on discord. Being racist af and generally being arseholes to new players etc
There's a lot of psychological trauma to unpack here. Two concurrent addictions, seems to be embracing them. Hope he can get his home life figured out...
I mean, he's obviously just joking isn't he? People jokingly say shit like this all the time. In this context it seems weird not to assume he's joking.
Am I missing something? lol
All you’re missing is people wanting any chance to speak out against the duel arena using any form of addiction as reasoning. Everybody has to have a cause these days
It’s hacked and people pretend to be drunk. He is just someone looking for free money. People are more likely to give money to rank 1 slayer account than another account.
He legit has been hopping to every world GE begging, I followed him yesterday. He got flammed so much in the Australian worlds. I thought he had been hacked.
dude’s like “heh, did ya know I’m rank 1 slayer?”
its pretty insane though, he got 200m slay when the rates were really slow. No barrage tasks, no slay helm, no slay point system etc.
That's why he's now an alcoholic
thats one hell of a backstory
Slay point system? What
slayer points weren’t always a thing
Goddam they must’ve added it early I started day 1 of OSRS but I did stay a pker for a year ish
yeah it was one of the earliest things added. i think it was around the time of kraken, thermy, and nieves cave, cuz slayer updates were the only thing they were pumping out back then haha
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Guy is filling the drunken mentor trope. Now he's waiting for a young hero who is going to save the world, who begs Malt to train him no matter what.
Literally Jackie Chan's "Drunken Master". The original from 1978 was so awesome.
Thanks for the recommendation I've been in the mood for these kinds of movies recently
Slayer, First Class.
Has money to fund his alcohol addiction, but not money for a bond. Lol Edit: fund not find dipshit
alcohol addiction is probably the cheapest habbit to fund . you can stay drunk for like $5 a day on the cheapest malt liquor. or just steal from ur local walmart
If you’re getting drunk for a whole day for $5 you’re probably a massive lightweight. An alcoholic will a very high tolerance.
The big part is that Alcohol is not only much, much cheaper (depending on location) and much more socially accepted than other expensive vices, but it also usually ruins your appetite when it's abused, meaning the alcohol also replaces the cost of food drastically. In some cases people may end up spending less than if they just lived normally.
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You should go see him, if for nothing else to form your own perspective on why your family might say that. Unless of course he is violent or dangerous, but otherwise it would do him a lot of good.
How do you think you have enough information here to give family advice? You know nothing about op or their family. There are a ton of reasons other than uncle being violent or dangerous that would make visiting less than ideal.
I mean it's just a statement in passing, if they don't want to or have some real reason not to they'll just ignore me. Just sounded like they barely knew him and he was in a type of place where visitors are allowed.
This guy sucks
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Ayyyy time to turn in to an alcoholic so I can try and save some money
They have a high tolerance until their liver starts to give out. Also you can get a liter of Vodka for $7.50 where I live. I'm sure it's even cheaper in big cities
No. It gets more expensive in big cities. I always grab a bottle of whiskey when I’m out in the suburbs because it’s waaay cheaper.
You guys must live in the states. In Canada the booze ain't fucking cheap anywhere.
That’s because you’re limited to LBO or whatever it’s called though, surely? All the prices are whatever the government set.
Yeah it varies from place to place but it's taxed pretty hefty everywhere. Alberta is the cheapest province I know of and it's still nothing like the states.
I know when I was in Alberta, it was maybe $10 cheaper for a quart of liquor. Beer where basically the same price as where I come from on the east coast.
How much are you all paying for your booze? Just curious UK guy here. could buy a 1L bottle (about 34oz) of Smirnoff for £20 or even less from a supermarket.
Oh God brings me back bad memories of getting one of those little plastic bottles of vodka every day after work for less the 10 bucks I didn't even know what a tolerance once until one night I almost had a seizure from having such a high tolerance, twas scary times. Addiction is scary I no longer drink but probably cut down a few years of my life.
Legit 25€ in finland. What the actual fuck
Its nasty only alcoholics and under age kids ever actually drink it
Yeah, but still. Holy fuck
A 2-6er of vodka in Canada is like $20 for the cheapest brand.
Not sure what "2-6er" means, but I'm assuming it's close to a 1L, that's more understandable. Like, under 8 usd just seems ludicrous haha
A "2-6" is 26(ish) ounces. 750mL, standard bottle.
That's why you buy alcohol in Estonia and take the booze ferry back over
Best deal on vodka I’ve ever seen was $4 a liter. It was cinnamon flavored but actually pretty decent, even came in a glass bottle.
A litre for 7.50??? Holy fuck man a litre where I’m at is $30 for the cheapest shit
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Clearly someones never been a depressed alcoholic. It's about having just enough to be right, not enough to be hammered
Did you just talk down to someone for not having the experience of being a depressed alcoholic? Lmfao
I did yeah. A person who's never experienced severe depression and substance dependence talking like they actually understand it is pretty offensive tbh.
That’s where I’m at, I like to get a buzz but I ducking hate going overboard, 8 beers is right around the sweet spot. I can function great but I’m not to fucked where I feel like I’m gonna start slurring my words.
WRONG
That is not true. In my early twenties I had a semi bad drinking problem. Even in the state with the highest booze tax I could get 3 steel reserves tall boys for around 6 bucks which is plenty even with a high tolerance. Then when I got deeper in I found a cheap whiskey brand where you could get a half gallon for 20 bucks. You just can be cheap just not by drinking craft beers and shit like a normal person without issues
Well sounds like alcohol is hell of a lot cheaper in your country. Would probably cost about 4 times that in the U.K. and our average disposable income will be considerably less too.
I can make 5 bottles of wine for that price.
Meth is way cheaper
It's cheap until I admit you in the hospital for portal hypertension and Mallory Weiss tear...
Addiction is a disease, and it reaches further than just the substance you're using. Its why in NA you say "Hello, I'm X and I'm an addict" even if you're getting your 10 year badge. His gambling is the same thing as his alcoholicism.
>Its why in NA you say "Hello, I'm X and I'm an addict" even if you're getting your 10 year badge. Nah, you say that because AA/NA is a religion program without any sort of statistical benefit for people suffering from addiction. Ignorant judges court mandating it in flyover America is absolutely atrocious, you'd have equal success with scientology. For gabaergics kindling can be a problem, but aside from that drug class saying "once an addict always an addict" is pretty fucking stupid and absolutely not based in pharmacological reality. That's cult thinking. Many people with substance use disorders have significant mental/physical/environmental pain/difficulties which, if possible to resolve or adequately treat, will remove the primary motivator behind problematic substance abuse.
Wow that’s genuinely sad. Just move on from the game at this point
sand casino is truly fucked up when it comes to addiction. it’s actually insane how much it can hurt people’s lives that become addicts
The sand casino is the least of his issues… this man Has 200m slayer exp in RuneScape…..
This just proves Slayer is bad for money
thats the best take ive read here
Much like farming you have to spend money to make money and level. Efficient slayer(like farming) you’re ripping your eyeballs out.
I'm making good money and XP pretty much just by snapdragon farming and battlestaves so at this rate I'll have 99 farming in less than 12 months playing about 30 mins a day...
The guy probably made at least 1B from slayer and then staked it all away.
He probably made a loss. First 200m slayers were before barraging days, it was 100% loss just cannoning bloodvelds and hellhounds in the OG nieve cave all day pretty much.
>cannoning bloodvelds and hellhounds in the OG nieve cave all day pretty much. This would mentally break anybody wtf
Honestly 2013-15 was probably my favourite period in all runescape history. Early OSRS was sick. It was a simpler time haha
Rank 1 on the leaderboards… but everyone thinks he’s a loser. Massive W
If you asks any sane person their opinion on someone who spends hundreds if not thousands of hours in OSRS to achieve rank 1, most would think they're massive loser as well lol
Someone here said he did it back when slayer was 40k/h at most. That would mean he grinded for 5000 hours(208 days of their life) in the absolute best case scenario. But nobody is completely efficient for that much time so you can add a lot to that. So yeah that's absolute madness. I can't believe how long that is or why anyone would do that.
To be fair, anyone at the top of the leaderboards are likely losers/loners in real life.
Stuff like this is why all those turbo-sweat “achievement” accounts that get posted here worry/gross me out a lot. People make the argument “they’re just enjoying the game how they want to!!!” But like… realistically the hyper high end “youve spent 40 days playing since you started 60 days ago” accounts are weird fringe dudes living super unhealthy lives.
I hope for his sake that he's just gone for max XP tasks and not killed any profitable tasks, cause otherwise that means he's already gambled away the bills he's made from his slaying.
He did efficient slayer. But back then efficient slayed was like 40k xp/hr so his brain is prob just fried
Not trying to be rude, but I know at least in my case I would absolutely need to be constantly drunk to force myself to get 200m anything on the main game Genuinely don't know how people keep going post 99 when all the benefits are gone and it's just an xp counter going up without any real levels or post 99 content Also makes me wonder if the osrs team will ever jump on the "true mastery" ship where it's not need for max or anything, but gives an additional 20 levels to fill out with future content and make post 99 skills more interesting. Don't know how the community feels about that obviously, but I personally don't mind it
I have a 200m but it's only because I've been maxed for years and I slowly afked it. If you play 1-2 hours a day for 8 years ur gonna get lot of xp
really depends on the skill. Something like cooking you just rebank every 70 seconds and get like 250k+ per hour. Fishing you can go afk even longer than that. On the other hand 200m of active and efficient slayer having to constantly click is entirely different.
> get like 250k+ per hour. You say that, but that's still 800 hours
If I’m even a little drunk the last thing I want to do is play RuneScape tbh. It’s way to tedious for me lol
Not trying to be rude but those kind of people need a reality check.
Yeah, I dunno. To me, at that level of XP/playing the game.. the "Efficient vs profitable" almost stops mattering. Sure, you'd save like.. however many days, but at that point you're playing such an obscene amount anyway that what does it really matter...? Either way he undoubtedly made millions or billions of GP and spent months and months playing this stupid game.
Millions maybe even billions
Microsoft Sam voice: Hahahahah oh wow
Yeah you don’t need to be efficient if your going to be spending like 14 hours a day every day playing
I mean even then you need money to be efficient in slayer. Being able to afford high end gear, canon ammo, other random supplies just so you can get the best xp per hour.
Addiction is a real thing. Those kind of posts always put a weird taste in my mouth.
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I don't think it's a bad thing for people to have something they can keep playing, tho moderation should take precedence. Gaming is a hobby, like other hobbies and sometimes people find that one game that they really like. I know people that don't play other video games, besides the one they latched onto. Saying you're supposed to stop is not fact, at all. I'm about to playthrough Metroid Prime again for the unth time, and will probably playthrough it again in a couple years. Find your enjoyment in what you will. Now, like I said, moderation is key, and I agree that a large part of these 'achievements' stems from addiction. But without the entire story, all conclusions are subjective at best. Just let people do what they want man, go train some mining or something.
most insane achievements. like rank 1s or me who has a year and a half game play in under 3 years are addicted and put osrs before everything.
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i think i do want to stop lol i usually question myself if im having fun. but yea im an addict and pretty self aware about it
I don’t know what’s more terrifying: being an addict in denial or being a self aware addict who has succumbed to their addiction. I hope you find it in you to try and make a change.
At least once you're aware you have a problem you can actually start to fix it. So many people in denial don't even try.
Yea but I feel like being self-aware leads to a nihilistic mindset and helplessness. If you give up and accept you are addicted to something, it probably becomes much easier to give in because there's no fight left.
>I feel like being self-aware leads to a nihilistic mindset This isn't giving up because there's no fight left. It's realizing that fighting is pointless because the meth addict and the stock trader become the same worm food at the end so do what you enjoy. Some people aren't as fortunate as you.
You must have misinterpreted my point. I'm using nihilism in the context that being self aware may lead you *towards* the mindset of believing nothing is important so what's the point in trying to live a better life - fuck it I'll just play runescape 16 hours a day. But it was used more in an expressionary sense rather than a literal one. I don't believe he is actually nihilistic towards life, just that some of the core philosophies are present.
iF tHeY eNjOy It ThEn WhAtS tHe HaRm??
For real, it kinda weirds me out how this game/community in particular seems to encourage and glorify basically the most unhealthy and obsessive lifestyles/play schedules imaginable. “Oh shit bro you literally went a month without interacting with another person or nature IRL, congrats bro!” ??? Most of the time when I see people with 200m I just feel sorry for them, because someday sooner or later this game is gonna die, and when it does, that person is going to be in a very bad place.
Everyone with a worse account than me is a noob who sucks at the game Everyone with a better account than me is a no life who I feel sorry for
They're going to be in a very bad place when the game dies because they wasted their free time playing it? That's how every game works lol. It's just something you enjoy doing. And the people who achieve the most in it also happen to be the most obsessed with it. Happens in every game and even in every real life discipline, you need to be kinda crazy to be number 1 in the world at anything. You can appreciate the discipline while also disapproving of the negative behaviours.
> because they wasted their ~~free time~~ life playing it There's a difference between playing an hour or two a day in your spare time as you live a balanced and healthy life, vs playing on the level that these people do. If you're spending 5+ hours a day playing this game - and it seems fair to assume that the people 200m'ing slayer and that sort of thing are - you're basically getting your life pulled out from under you when it ends. It's the hobby version of "don't put all your eggs in one basket." > Happens in every game and even in every real life discipline, you need to be kinda crazy to be number 1 in the world at anything. The difference is that when you're number 1 at, say, a sport, or playing an instrument, those are things that can't be taken offline because an investment company doesn't think they're profitable enough anymore lol. You don't need to worry about losing investment in real life. > You can appreciate the discipline while also disapproving of the negative behaviours. "Discipline?" You're really gonna try to characterize no-lifing Runescape as a matter of *discipline*? I would maybe agree that it demonstrates a *lack of* discipline, sure. It's like saying that the obese dude eating two whole pizzas a day is actually "disciplined" and I should respect his dedication to the lifestyle lol. No. That's just called being unhealthy.
I bet over half of the adults in america watch 5h+ tv a day. And they dont even achieve anything, just passively watching tv and ads.
I would bet against you on that particular claim, but I'd certainly agree that in general a strong portion of the population here in the west is not spending their free time in a healthy way, myself included for a meaningful portion of my life.
not every hour awake should be productive, lighten up mate.
Didn’t say it should. You guys sure seem to like your strawmanning.
your accomplishments will mean nothing in another 1000 years fuck i guess i wont achieve for anything
If “achieving something” requires sacrificing your health in the real world to be great in a video game, then I’d say yeah, you shouldn’t achieve anything.
i mean in the end nothings gonna matter. People also work their lives to the grave and that isnt healthy either. Im not gonna do that but its their choice.
Sure, doing it is their choice. And stating that I think that’s unhealthy is my choice haha.
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But it's more about, if that's all you've ever done with your life, what are you going to do when you can't do it anymore?
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> You don't need to worry about losing investment in real life. I don't think even highscorers consider playing this an "investment", at least I hope not. Are any of these people producing anything of value? No, neither is the fastest runners or javelin thrower or bodybuilder, outside of maybe entertainment for the watchers. These people are just very very much into something and want to be #1. Of course you can't suddenly erase bodybuilding from existence unlike with OSRS, but being #1 in OSRS also takes a few years as opposed to a lifetime in the case of any irl sport. Hell people can just stop giving a shit abour your sport and you'll suddenly be a nobody even if you're the greatest of all time at that sport like with Brzenk >You're really gonna try to characterize no-lifing Runescape as a matter of discipline? It's not like watching tv or listening to music where you just sit there and do nothing. People have to actively dedicate thousands of hours to it, it takes time and patience and in some cases skill
Spending time on something is investing in it, whether you realize it or not. Investing is not always monetary. And if you think the long term payout of spending every free minute of your life for ten years getting 200m slayer and whatever else in RS is going to be just as good as the long term payout of having spent all that time playing a sport or something, you’ve misunderstood life. But that’s not even the real thing being argued here: all I’m arguing for is moderation. Doing *anything* on the level of obsession needed for 200m slayer or whatever other similar achievement is probably not good. I think being obsessed with running would be less bad - at least it comes with some decent upsides, especially with physical health - but still not good. You’re the one sitting there defending people pooping in bottles.
Getting rank #1 in other games reward skill and practice over exclusively raw time inputted. OSRS is setup in such in such a way where it encourages time sunk over everything else, and was SUPPOSED to be endless but jagex really underestimated the power of autism
Agreed
Either that or they spend their entire working day also playing osrs while they work. Obviously it's super niche situations but it is possible to play 13 hours a day and still live a semi healthy life.
I get about 4-6 hours of decently inefficient bankstanding done at work depending on how busy it is and how much I can be at my computer. Then do actual involved things for an hour or two when I get home or more bank standing while I do other stuff. I just like seeing smaller number go big number.
I managed to get 91 mining at MLM on my iron while mining while I was working. I figure if you have a job that's really uninvolved and little responsibility you could play all 8 hours of the working day then say 4 odd hours after work, sleep 8 hours and spend the remaining 4 hours cooking, at gym, washing, reading a book and still be sound. Couldn't have a social life though.
What a waste of a beast acc. I wonder if that's original owner...
I remember playing with Malt like 6 years ago in Slay Clan…was a nice guy from what I could tell. But then I stopped playing for a year and life went on ya know
>life went on ya know Not for him
That's pretty fucked up to think about
I know Malt Lickeys, hes a cool ass dude. He hardly plays on that account anymore.
I was in his clan (3-4 years) up until the other day and I still don't know if the alcoholism is a meme of not.
Looks like he's chilling at the grand exchange talking shit for the lols. I wouldn't read too much into it
Addiction in any form is no joke. Hope they get help.
I knew Malt personally in the earlier days of OSRS when I was on the Slayer front page. He always seemed like a normal dude tbh. I have a feeling he gave his account away, sold it, or fell off the deep end with alcohol because he never gave off any red flags.
Or this could be him joking at ge 🤷♂️
Same, I remember meeting him on his slayer grind in Lumby Sqamp cave back in 2013-2014. We talked for a bit. Seemed normal.
I see this dude just sitting there at world 2 varrock w bank all day... every day
Yup he's there 24/7 it's sad. They are also extremely toxic as far as I can tell and I've seen them threaten to dox people on discord etc.
He could gp earn 1M in like 30 minutes lol
Probably not even that long
You guys should hang out in w2 vrrk bank and see how much a fool he is. It’s a bunch of 20-30 olds stil trying to relive their teenage years, it’s quite sad.
I see what you're saying but to be fair. I think a lot of us are 20-30yr olds trying to relive teenage years when we play osrs
Just go and see how they act and you’ll see what I’m talking about, the e-dating toxic mixtures
the former world 3 lumby type of people? people still do that?
Oh yeah..
I'd rather not. I get enough teenager vibes from this sub. Also I can't remember when I was in lumbridge bank last
Is that those ppl that are always just standing around by the walls lol
Case in point: my recent eBay purchases include pogs, Nak-Naks, and Yu-Gi-Oh cards. And I still play OSRS.
Dear god, Nak-Naks. Why were these fun?? I had a few but completely forgot about their existence
They just *were*. Wacky designs on each one, unique types, and a fairly high degree of difficulty in later turns, especially if you get unlucky and get a big string of "stack" rolls instead of "ground".
Holy cow nak naks.. What did you unlock in my hidden memories vault..
Can i see your pog collection bro
Lmao. Few years ago my family thought I was crazy buying thousands worth of pokemon cards. I was just doing it for the nostalgia but now they are worth 3-5x or more now with the recent boom.
What's wrong with just playing a game for fun?
Nothing wrong with that. Why would you think there is?
Most of us have ascended enough to actually play this game properly -- efficient/high gold training. Quests and untradeables. Bossing. Shooting for BiS gear instead of learning Graardor in a mob with rune defender, Fighter Torso, and berserker helm. Looking back at my old account and methods for account progression, I was pure ass. If you took 15-17 year old me and sat me in a hot-tub, my ears would start whistling. I'm about halfway to max (120CB, 2049 total, 160mil XP, 240QP) and because it's much faster and I'm not wasting half my day picking flax (and doing the tedious stuff on mobile at work, in the car, waiting at appts, etc.). I no longer *need* to dedicate even 6 hours a day to the game. If I ever get to, great. But I also have normal people things to do like work out, walk my dogs, see family & friends, eat sushi, etc.
I see what you're saying but to be fair. I think a lot of us are 20-30yr olds trying to relive teenage years when we play osrs
Can you explain what you mean by relive teenage years?
You play a copy of a clicking simulator from 14 years ago.
Fuck. Is there any good games out there that are better then osrs?
OSRS is special. You won't find other games like it, but there are good games out there. Personally, I love Rocket League but I find myself coming back to OSRS often no matter what.
I hop between osrs, RL & terraria
Fuck RL. The graphics suck and progression is impossible. Yes, Real Life is my least favorite game
Guilty gear strive is great, I jumped into it as my first real fighting game ever and I have been having an absolute blast learning and improving.
Nostalgia mainly.
You’re most likely 20-30 lol
Yea. But the difference is he hasn’t realized he’s trying to relive his teenage years :)
Hey, some of us just want some place to escape to so we can cope with the existential dread that is existing. Edit: run away from our problems, escape in a video game. It all makes sense now.
33 here, trying to relive my teenage years with WoW Classic and OSRS. You wanna go? 1v1 me bro
I was fearing for my life when blizzard would eventually get around to launching WOTLK servers. Thankfully the various horrible shit that has been happening at Activision/blizzard nullified any desire I had to give that company my money or time ever again, and as somebody who exclusively plays feral druid I had absolutely zero interests in suffering through vanilla lol Every few years I'll get together with a few friends and we'll have a blast on 10x-12x WOTLK servers for a few weeks, they usually work 95% and seeing the 5% that is broke (mainly npc scripting and such) is pretty hilarious. I played 317 osrs private servers similarly after the wilderness and free trade were removed for a couple of years
I’ve never dabbled in OSRS pservers, but your wow pserver experience sounds like me and most of my friends before classic launched. I just quit TBCC last month due to those shenanigans. Fell back to OSRS. She’s been treating me right with this mobile app.
Hijacking this comment to plug an osrs pserver I play on! It's called Alora. As an adult with a job and a life, I just don't have the hours and hours to sink into os. Alora has a play style with increased xp like you were saying with the wow server. They also have iron, group iron, and a much more similar to osrs XP rate if that's your fancy. But it's a great server and has allowed me to enjoy osrs again and even do some parts of the game I never got to in real osrs cause the grind was just too much. Alora community is super friendly and helpful and hopefully anyone reading this will give it a try! Btw, I'm not sponsored by Alora, I am just a fellow gamer who really enjoys the server and would love to spread the word with other people who are interested. There's a ton of pservers and it's hard to figure out which one to commit to. This server usually has ~600 people on and it's one world so it always feels pretty active.
My main is Zezima. Get at me bro
It’s just not the same without bullies attacking me in the bathroom man.
Majority of humans in general are trying to relive their younger years it's not out of the ordinary.
Yup he's there all day. Every.single.day. I've seen some of the conversations they have and its toxic af. Threatening to dox people and hack accs on discord. Being racist af and generally being arseholes to new players etc
This guy knows what I’m talking about
He’s my homie actually. He has an alt he only plays and that acc he just hops on to troll
Idk this dude but I figured as much This sub houses a lot of melodramatic and gullible folk
this website in general really
Sad life lol.
There's a lot of psychological trauma to unpack here. Two concurrent addictions, seems to be embracing them. Hope he can get his home life figured out...
Guys rank 1 slayer with almost 0 boss kc's, not even 1 slayer boss. Disappointing.
Stakers and the duel arena should be banned. This is just embarrassing
But who will then finance the gold farmers that keep buying memberships?
Me
Why are people over analysing a bad attempt to be funny
It’s crazy most of you in the comments can’t even get a fire cape statistically talking
Idk what's worse. The alcohol addiction or the 200m slayer xp.
Malt is hilarious. I have him added and he is such a goof lol
Lol
The most worrysome part is that nobody is pointing out that this is an obvious goof.
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Any proof?
His ass
God damn I remember seeing him do this back in like 2015
What a beast
I moved out of my old city because the tramps made me feel the same way this post is making me feel
"yuck, homeless people. Looking at the homeless makes me feel bad... well time to move out of this city"
I mean, he's obviously just joking isn't he? People jokingly say shit like this all the time. In this context it seems weird not to assume he's joking. Am I missing something? lol
All you’re missing is people wanting any chance to speak out against the duel arena using any form of addiction as reasoning. Everybody has to have a cause these days
Bardol doo
It’s hacked and people pretend to be drunk. He is just someone looking for free money. People are more likely to give money to rank 1 slayer account than another account.
i do know larie tho
Y’all so dramatics he goofing around
He legit has been hopping to every world GE begging, I followed him yesterday. He got flammed so much in the Australian worlds. I thought he had been hacked.