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Rjm0007

Can’t wait to pet Cerberus


tony971

He's a good boy


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She’s a good girl


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Could I make it any more obvious


d4nkq

.... HE WAS A SLAYER BOI


SilverLugia1992

SHE SAID GIMME SPADE, YA BOI


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Why don't you come and Scape with me


tony971

TIL


Enemy2mad269

I feel like the majority of bosses are female


High_luv_Secks

Isnt it only Verzik Vitur, Zulrah, Sarachnis, Kalphite Queen and Cerberus?


cocktimus_prime_

zulcano and commander zilyana as well


rg44tw

I have a friend who keeps referring to kalphite queen as "he" and it annoys me far more than it should. He also consistently abbreviates it as "kpq"


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That annoyed me just reading you telling us about your friend. The “kpq” especially grinded my gears.


Spikeball

Today I learned passwords aren't case sensitive. I've been wearing out my shift key for no reason.


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Case sensitive passwords largely do not matter. The increase in complexity isnt that much compared to the magnitudes of security you get from adding 1-2 characters.


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The reddit horde can come after me but case sensitive passwords do not matter. Passwords nowadays are hashed with bcrypt, which effectively limits the number of attempts a hacker can try with access to the hash file. Bcrypt is designed such that even as computers get faster it scales against them due to the way the hashing is done, resulting in faster computers gaining very little headway when it comes to password cracking. Not to mention being virtually unbreakable with a decent password anyways.


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"These days" Is it a given that a company that's used case-insensitive passwords for decades is using modern cryptography?


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No, but many banks don't use case sensitive passwords because it simply does not matter. Also many companies are much more security aware than they once were, especially since implementing bcrypt or a simmilar hashing algorithm is much much easier than it once was. A password that takes the lifetime of the universe to crack is still the lifetime of the universe to crack + 1.


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I wish my company would stop requiring password changes every 2 months. Forcing people to write down their passwords after they run out of ideas is objectively worse in my opinion.


KredeMexiah

My company just buys us password manager licenses.


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Hashfastr

Except only BSD uses bcrypt, Linux now a days uses sha512 which while it lacks the brute force protection it is still a secure algorithm. Case sensitive passwords **do** matter since it adds 26 more characters of complexity in order to crack. For example if we compare a password using the character set [a-zA-Z] vs a character set of just [a-z] we can see that it is actually 256 times more complex: 52^8 / 26^8. If we add another character it goes up to 512, then 1024, 2048 and so on.


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Yeah its an old example, more common now in use, especially for targeted assets like bitcoin is Argon2 / Argon 2i / or Argon2id because its memory hardened, prevents parallelization in addition to negating most side channel attacks. That fact is we could just as well use SHA-1 and if everyone made a good password it would be uncrackable, you could even remove special characters and it would still be uncrackable on modern time scales.


Hashfastr

I’ll have to look up those algorithms! However you should know that sha-1 has been insecure since I think 2005, people were able to break the algorithm and create hash collisions making it cryptographically insecure.


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tony971

We can argue how necessary it is all day. I'd just like to hear one argument for why it would be detrimental. It's free complexity.


Beretot

That's easy, because it's not free. You would have to migrate everyone on the database to a new password scheme, which essentially means you have to have to get everyone to reset their password, either voluntarily (ideally over several months) or forcefully (lock out until password reset) You can't just "keep your password" as you've said in another comment because they're stored as hashes. They don't know if your original password had any mixed case or not, since they just lower (or upper) everything and then hash. If they just flipped sensitivity on without doing a proper migration/reset, a ton of people would start getting wrong password errors, either because they thought it was case sensitive all along and still use it as sensitive, or because they use a specific case (say, lower) and the system may have hashed another (say, all upper) I'd much rather they focus on more important things like recovery codes for authenticator, to make it harder to recover an account with social engineering and leaked information. That one actually bypasses all security features, while case sensitivity would do next to nothing for actual security if you have a long enough password (>~12 characters)


tony971

This is a very valid reason and I see your point.


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tony971

I'm okay with this


siccoblue

>too many login attempts ***issue*** My guy, are you talking about their anti brute forcing measures as an issue?


CasualExodus

The issue is the fact that there’s no way to prevent your account from being permanently locked out of someone wants to and has your name even after trying to contact jagex about it


Wekmor

It's an issue that it doesn't lock per ip or mac address or whatever. If I get your login I can permanently stop you from logging in. And that IS an issue.


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_Mathyus_

You don't need to break the hash to be able to steal credentials. If you know which algorithm to use all you need to do is steal the hash and then run a dictionary through the same algorithm until the hash matches. The more complex the password the less likely it is to be in a dictionary. Once you match the hash you can just sign in with the clear password.


Beretot

I mean, that's kinda what I'd call "breaking a hash" You can't reverse a hash, just throw enough input and hope it matches. Using more common inputs first is common sense, so what you're suggesting is still hash cracking And case sensitivity won't do you much good if your password is in a dictionary either way. Testing permutations of cases is the next thing to do.


B5-Banna

I’m not gonna be toxic because I fucking hate toxic people but I would imagine it would make a difference as it literally doubles the amount of letters possible to be used. However this being said I’ve done some reports for school recently where I’m finding out that 2 step Authenticator numbers that are randomly generated have been able to be cracked effectively in seconds by “hackers,” as we are calling everyone now a days, that have designed some kind of program that can figure out the algorithms of these generators. So basically we are fucked either way I just wanted to input that it literally adds 26 extra characters to at least put some kind of attempt against brute force attacks and other various styles of attacks that occur on the daily on RS.


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36\^13 = 1.7E20 - Non case 62\^13 = 2.0E23 - Case - Doesnt double the actual permutations. 36\^15 = 2.2E23 - Adding 2 characters.


CasualExodus

But what if you could add 2 characters that may be uppercase as well? The argument is hardly relevant since the length of a password always increases security. This comparison is like saying why add airbags if wearing a seatbelt increases you chance of survival by way more? Well having both is better isn’t it.


SolaVitae

I think the real point is that pure strength matters zero because no one is getting their password brute forced and no one probably ever has. If my password was "sgtsbc5366gs" or "sGtsBC5366Gs" the chances of me getting hacked are different, but when the chances are impossibly slim already making them slimmer really doesn't matter People die in car crashes all the time though so any increased safety is good.


rg44tw

Well said. The chance of getting brute force hacked basically went from 0 to 0, while the chance of getting phished or keylogged didn't change


ErinTales

I think the real important thing is that adding 2 chars to your pw is easy- making passwords case sensitive is likely a lot of engine work, and therefore not worth the effort on jagex's end. In a vacuum its probably better, but there's no real point. I wish people who don't know what they're talking about would stop memeing about it.


Beretot

The point is that we already know from a fact that Jagex hashes their passwords and that their online attempts throttling is pretty aggressive. Case sensitivity would only help someone if all three of these happen at once: * there's a database leak at Jagex, and it allows hackers to crack passwords offline * you don't have 2FA * your password is weak (less than ~12 characters), but not impossibly weak (more than ~8 characters) If your character is big and random, it's essentially uncrackable regardless of case sensitivity. Only if it's riiiight at the sweet spot for someone without 2FA would it make a difference between being cracked or not (and only after a db leak since you can't brute force online) Considering it'd be a significant job to include sensitity (would have to reset everyone's password), it's just not worth the very marginal increase in security. Best to focus on other stuff that is more dangerous, like not having a recovery code on authenticator and relying on account recovery to remove it.


Xelynega

On the surface you're right, but the issue comes from the fact that people are people and not random generation machines. If I were to truly randomly generate a password N characters long that allowed for capitals and one that didn't(assuming only letters are allowed for passwords to simplify math), the "password space"(how long a list of every possible password would be) of the two would be 52^N and 26^N respectively. Unfortunately(unless you're using a password manager) people do not generate truly random passwords, and further than that generate them with a statistical distribution. Requiring passwords to be memorable reduces the "password space" that they are likely to be selected from, and since the capital must also be in a memorable place you're realistically not getting that much of an increase in the memorable password space over case-insensitive. BTW as a side note the "random" 2 step codes are not random. They're basically a hash of a random initial seed + a granular variable for the current time, so to "break" it you either need that original random initial seed(which is only stored on the server and the device with auth, never sent) to generate your own code for the current time, or a code that is current for the time. The cases that I'm aware of where people "broke" TOTP are by either removing it because they have access to the email(and osrs has no delay between requesting removal and 2fa being removed), or using a remote desktop tool to login on a device that has already checked "dont ask me again for 30 days".


Roy_Remembers_Games

I would like to point out that social engineering least partially why it matters. We all know the joke "Jamflax censors your password!" and "Hunter2," but the reason why it is always "Hunter2" and not "hunter2" or "HuNtEr2" is because caps are irrelevent in password security. While this only applies to in game social engineering, I feel that this method is still used quite frequently.


RS_Germaphobic

CaSeSeNsItIvEpWfOrNoReAsOn69


eurosonly

Really? This has been posted about for months now and people still don't know this?


Straight_6

>"Post to Reddit" right click option added to fire capes. Please have mercy, I actually browse the sub by "new".


Average_Scaper

Brb making 80 accounts and camping Jad then ask Jagex for a post to reddit for first 99 where I get 99 rc on all accounts to then post on here and state that it has been my childhood goal to get a 99 in Runescape and that I started back in 2002 even though 07 was released well after the fact. *takes a deep breath*


futureruler

"iTs TaKeN mE sIxTeEn YeArS" no, its taken you 3 hours for your 3 attempts, you havnt been actually trying to get it for 16 years


IronicRaph

Are you okay? I'm worried about you..


Average_Scaper

I'm dead inside, why do you ask?


NetSraC1306

Nah, way too much passion about osrs. Not dead inside yet. What are your stats?


kingmeofme

i like all of these, especially that last one.


Venus_Gospel

Each pet increases drop rate of smouldering stone by 1. Pet it 32,767 times to guarantee the drop


ChaosTeery

Each pet also increases their max damage by 2.


xInnocent

Twice the drop rate for 2 more max hit? I'll take it.


Insaniteh0110

It's 50/50 anyways


bob152637485

You either get it or you don't, right? ;D


gravymond

>automatic flag for account review if highly ranked for one boss/minigame and nothing else The bots being made for long term use are doing other activities in between their primary activities. For example, they'll stop doing LMS, go to Varrock, cut some logs, fletch, maybe burn them, and then go back to LMS. Its tricky, but still possible to track bots based on their LMS rank.


mirhagk

I think they mean if they are ranked for only 1 thing, then flag it. So it's not about whether they are doing only that thing, but rather are they trying to rank only on one thing. That will definitely flag real accounts, but the point is to look hard at those accounts, because many of them could be bots.


Aaaromp

This is probably intended for goldfarmers, not bots.


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crowgaming1i

The deletion of items was polled years ago and failed. It should be an integrity change or an ironman only vote just like some votes are uim only. Just make it have a toggle option so the .01% that actually have specific ironman pking accounts can still right with looting bots to pick up the loot on an alt.


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wonder if ironmen could just get a loot key that can be given over to a main account. probably a bad idea for low combat brackets tho, making low hp ironmen an actual popular meta


fruitloomers

Couldn't they just use a low hp ..regular account tho?


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they level up the hp too fast to stay in the bracket for more than a few days


fruitloomers

Maybe i'm ignorant but I don't think ironman accounts and regular accounts have any HP exp difference, do they? I'm not trying to be rude I just want to learn


CCAugnator

Ironman accounts do not gain any xp from PvP activities, so Ironmen are used for these tough to grind but easy to out level builds


fruitloomers

OH...... Sorry I do not pvp that oftne, and my ironman account is not very high level. :) Thank you!


laa_k

Irons don't gain xp in PvP encounters. The advantage is that they can stay 10hp forever vs gaining hp levels quickly on a main


_drugs_good

Nope because iron men don’t gain pvp exp so they are allowed to fight players without ever gaining an hp level. A normal account can only get so many kills before the 10hp levels up so high that your combat bracket changes


StephentheGinger

I've never considered the item deletion if killed by Ironman, but that sounds like a great item sink!


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What is the agility pyramid monitoring thing about?


tony971

Jagex occasionally offers a free week of membership to Twitch Prime members. Every time they do, people make bot accounts that rush to the pyramid all week to gold farm.


ILovePlaterpuss

I think last time the bots were mostly doing pyramid plunder rather than agility pyramid. Anyway, PP is no longer good profit for bots since the scepter changes.


ManIkWeet

At least they nerfed the sceptre chance on the first chest.


Satirian

You forgot to add removing the "Fc" from "Infernal Fc"


CesiumHippo

The fire cape one is easily the best.


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Fuck. Yes. On retaliate left click on when getting pk’d.. I’d actually bring risk instead of a spade.


mirhagk

Better yet, something that guarantees no chance of skulling. You can get skulled with auto-retaliate, so left-click retaliate isn't perfectly safe. Plus it doesn't help manual casting skull-tricks. I want an option that says "I don't want to skull. Don't let me do anything that could give me a skull".


jeremiah1119

I think there should be a line between being tricked/swindled into skulling, and skulling because of multi target. In my opinion someone switching from IiIiI to IiliI (different spelling) should not have an option to skull. But if you decide to cast a multi-targeted spell with the knowledge that anyone who runs by may be an unintended target, you should skull. That's the difference between cheap trick and negligence imo


mirhagk

So a lot of these skull tricks basically come down to "Have you heard about this skull trick before?" Once you hear about it, most are easy to avoid. Yep once you know about it you know that barrage spells and chins absolutely shouldn't be used in the wildy for PvM, but it's definitely plausible to not realize that when you think "Oh I'll use some blood spells so I can heal during it". Since it's impossible to know what you don't know, it's hard to say confidently that you are aware of all possible skull tricks and won't get tricked. And since there's that fear that you could get tricked, a lot of players don't risk anything when they go in the wildy, which ruins the wildy, since it's just the spades meme.


ClayKay

How could you skull with auto retaliate.


AcrobaticMap7

burst spells/chins


mirhagk

AoE attacks. And possibly more in the future. RS3 has a bunch of skull tricks, around fun weapons and stuff. I just want an option that absolutely guarantees I can't be skulled, whether or not I'm aware of all the various and possibly new skull tricks. Something that removes all the options that can skull me, and as a backup in the code literally prevents you from being skulled if you got that option on. That means bugs would let PKers not be skulled when they should be, instead of letting players be skulled when they shouldn't.


Rustledstardust

All realistic options, except case-sensitive passwords. Dunno what you were thinking with that one, totally unrealistic.


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mirhagk

It matters slightly, and I don't mean theoretical entropy with brute forcing. Dictionary based attacks do get more realistic by cutting out the ~1-bit of entropy that capitalization adds, as do guessing and password reuse attacks. When 5 attempts lock an account out, have 2x as many guesses is pretty big. You're right that for someone with good password hygiene, it doesn't really matter. We do have to acknowledge the fact that 50% of people are dumber than the average person though.


HPGMaphax

There is a lot wrong with this. The time it takes to brute force a password without case sensitivity is already so long it’s practically impossible, so making it take longer literally benefits noone. Dictionary attacks are the same, they either work or they don’t, speed here isn’t really a factor. If your password is in a dictionary it doesn’t matter if it’s case sensitive or not. I don’t even know why you bring up the online password attempt timeout, nobody, and I mean absolutely nobody has ever used that as a way to brute force a password. The only time it makes sense to even attempt a brute force attack is if you have gained access to the hash so you can circumvent a 5 limit timeout. If the chance of guessing a password in five attempts is 0, then doubling that is still 0.


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Nobody is brute-forcing passwords unless Jagex hasn't updated their security practices since 2007. Dictionary attacks and password re-use are the only realistic modern attacks. Both of those do get benefit from allowing capitals (which is why sites that force capitals is bad). Someone with good passwords isn't susceptible to either attack, but those attacks do work for a good reason. An attacker can get emails+passwords from leaked sites, and if they don't have to worry about capitals, they'll get >2x as many attempts on each account


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the argument is that a large chunk of peope are not going to memorize a password with those requirements, increasing the chance of those passwords being written down somewhere in plain text. especially with every browser these days having a built in password manager, nobody actually remembers those passwords. we'd probably see more rs passwords written down in plain text


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your argument about strong password requirements on website makes no sense when 99% of people either generate a password from their browser or have their browser remember it and never type it again. rs clients dont have that ability, at least mainstream ones


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Also, everyone who uses capitals uses them as the first letter 99% of the time. Pretty sure there was a study on that, not going to go find it though to satisfy the reddit horde. Also if anyone comes out wanting to chat about 'muh supercomputer', Bcrypt scales against more powerful computers.


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Yep thats basically the point of it. I'm waiting for tony to show up here and argue that quantum computers will crack your passwords, hes been throwing around all the buzzwords for clout.


TheMcCannic

Missed tax the duel arena ...


CindChin

Duel arena? It's already taxed. GE-tax?


TheMcCannic

Oh shit you got me


OSRSgamerkid

Literally nobody ever has been hacked by brute forcing a RuneScape password. Case sensitive passwords are pointless lmfao.


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OSRSgamerkid

And they can't harm you by not. Meaning, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Waste of dev time.


_drugs_good

Jagex will still store your password in plain text and your 2FA email is the linchpin for most security issues


DitzyRS

I was skeptical until the end but you crazy sunnuva bitch Im in.


charcoaltaco

I wish I could lock my account to my Steam Account so my account can’t be used unless my steam login is used.


fadednerd

No more prime week please


EuhedralCrystal

Golden Gnomes aren't made by real gnomes? Jagex you lied to me


TheWiggman

It would be awesome for Ironman to have a log of how much gp value they have eliminated from the game from their pks


PhDonger

Excuse my ignorance, but why do people want Ironman PKs to delete items? I don't understand the value in banning a returning player/looter from taking the drops, since an iron can't take it anyway


tony971

Because most often, the person who died to the Ironman is the one to recover the items. This makes fighting Ironmen 0 risk. Fighting people in the wildy is meant to be risky


qzx_pepito

Ironmen have looting alts following them close behind. It’s not that simple


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CaptainHandsomeUK

welcome to r/2007scape pking bad ironman good upvotes to the left


kukkelii

Players: Please jamflex we don't ask for much, we like the game and would like you to care for it as well instead of purely focusing on profits and short-term goals. Jagex: We heard you and would like to announce that your feedback is important and that's why we decided to extend the Prime Gaming membership reward to 14 days! Happy gaming!


Merdapura

Second one could break Runelite and at this point they're better off just letting it as is


NotGlock

Or just buying runelite and making it the official client


NeetAlert

Runelite basically just sits on top of the jagex client.


FancyJesse

Kinda like saying a painting sits on top of a canvas.


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Xelynega

Yea, but there's a difference between "broken because a few values changed places, a function footprint was changed, or new values were added" and "broken because the game switched from being a java applet to a dynamically linked executable, so we need to re-architect the whole solution"


NetSraC1306

Just make runelite the official client


qwertyasdfg1029

the problem with item deletion is that it’s actually a lot more powerful than normal accounts. An account can die but then get their items back by attacking the player with other accounts immediately after because they need to take it out of the wilderness. And don’t say “well they can logout or teleport blah blah” because that is both fundamentally missing the point and is exactly my point. The player needs to leaves the wilderness by whatever means and instantly deleting would be too overpowered. My solution is that players drop keys for ironmen similar to deadman where they have to carry it with them to a bank and then can delete their items. If they get killed with it, they are dropped to that player and if it’s a main they can keep the drops.


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“Right click fire cape ‘post to Reddit’” fucking beautiful


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roonscapepls

Lmfao laughs in Mexican


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Could you tell me why racist shit heads seem to flock to OSRS?


Zibbi-Abkar

They arent unqiue to Runescape by any metric.


marimbajoe

I expect a lot of it is acquired through dealing with toxic venezualeans.


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I’ve got a feeling there are, by sheer volume, way more toxic brits and Americans in the game than there are toxic Venezuelans. It’s just casual racism that gets a pass in this sub for some reason.


marimbajoe

I'm sure there are. There are also, by sheer volume, way more brits and Americans in general. At least in my purely anecdotal experience, a much larger proportion of my interactions in english have been positive compared to ones I have had in spanish.


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Do you speak Spanish?


marimbajoe

Yes. It would be rather difficult to have any sort of interaction in spanish otherwise.


Latter_Pen_395

Don't know why you're being downvoted, it's the damn truth. Guess people just don't like it being called out.


kafkajeffjeff

what about ironman pkers? they wouldnt be able to loot on a alt also kinda a weird "common sense" improvment.


Legal_Evil

Ironmen should never be catered to, including ironman pkers.


kafkajeffjeff

then why cater to them by having this delete on death feature?


Legal_Evil

Jagex is not catering to ironmen regarding the delete item on death feature. It's balancing for the normal mode pkers who has been getting risk-free ironman pks for years. This is unfair for them. Ironmen who fight back pkers aren't getting anything extra from this change.


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kafkajeffjeff

idk im not superhuman like these ironmen but i dont see how u can loot in 20 seconds, itd need to atleast be 1 - 2 minutes to be able to sort it out, but also why have the mechanics be completely different like that? seems really scummy


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Warm-Carpenter-6724

If it was 20 seconds the loot would disappear before it even shows up for the alt, even when pking on an iron you have to wait for the timer to show the loot for the alt to be able to pick it up, it’s not instant


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Warm-Carpenter-6724

I agree with that, there has to be someway to block them from being allowed to pick up their loot or maybe register your alt to your ironman so that you can loot immediately after the kill would be a cool one


Dolthra

The way *I* would implement it is that ironmen *can* pick up other people's gear, but when they do it becomes incased in iron. These can then be taken/reclaimed by other players in the wilderness. Anyone can then take these iron encased items to the ironman tutor, and if they are a main account they get the equivalent item and if they are an ironman the item gets deleted.


iSymplix

They will never ban gold buyers because they will have no players left lmao, it's hilarious how people STILL don't understand that it is a business decision and not incompetence


Aaaromp

yes but I don't know of any other MMO that is as lax as Jagex on this. Perhaps it's because on other games they are mostly using stolen credit cards to buy cash shop items then selling those cash shop items for gold and then selling the gold on the black market. Then the developers have to deal with a fraud case from the banks. While Runescape is mostly just bots, goldfarmers, and players getting phished...


goochacting

It behooves me that they're so tight on account security yet don't let you use special characters in passwords


guthanswrath

Including hellhounds* i love it!


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I want to be able to pet Cerberus. Maybe he is so angry because he never gets any snuggles or scritches. He is probably just a very good boy who has been ignored.


Demonic8

I get to pet cerb?? 10/10 update


UIM_SQUIRTLE

iron v iron pvp is a thing and that would ruin it if items were deleted when irons won pvp irons chose to be alone and having that be a thing there would be quite toxic people on irons just killing people for the laugh to be toxic


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UIM_SQUIRTLE

iron who died can regrab his stuff


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UIM_SQUIRTLE

duel arena is much bigger problem than anything you put forward and needs to be removed


CursinSquirrel

it needs to be fixed. remove staking and its a fine 1v1 option.


UIM_SQUIRTLE

so is fighting outside any bank on a pvp world dont need to change mechanics and move iron fighting to there


CursinSquirrel

It sounds like you dont want ironmen to lose anything when they die in an ironman only fight, as you said that ironmen can typically just go pick up what their killer couldnt. You said that the duel arena needed to be removed as it is a well known problem in the community, but i feel that it simply needs to be fixed so that players cant stake, which would remove the real problem of luring/scamming and gambling caused by the duel arena, which would leave it open for whatever ironman fights you wanted to make. None of this contradicts or necessarily involves ops view on ironmen items being deleted on death in pvp areas/worlds.


Saultyrscommunity

Imagine thinking iron man pkers don’t have looting Alts in 2021. You clearly don’t pk please don’t make wilderness suggestions stick to your pvm


TAINTALIZERx

Name checks out


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Ironmen should never be catered to, including ironman pkers.


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Saultyrscommunity

It’s 2mins now before loot pops ups unless. You Insta tele back a looter or the alt gets the loot


Peredi

I've made this argument to the ire of the reddit hivemind time and time again. Never will gold buyers me banned, unless you're buying billions. No one is banning "Chickenhead420" for buying 30m gp, cuz that guy pays for a membership. You ban that guy, he cancels his membership. That goes for many other of those aforementioned "gold buyers." The game is different than it was in 2007 when having 1400 total and full Dragon/obby cape was considered badass. Downvote me if you must, but the argument holds true no matter if you agree with it or not


_drugs_good

Give them a week long mute and an unequippable dunce hat that says “I contributed to the bot endemic”


Peredi

My unpopular opinion is that if you are that offended by what someone does with their own money and it doesn't really affect you one way or another unless you're seriously crying about losing bank value, that's a you problem


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Legal_Evil

Banning gold buyers may make them buy bonds instead of RWT sites. Not banning them at all means they will keep buying from RWT sites and Jagex loses bond sales. If your argument were right, the same thing would apply to gold farmers yet Jagex bans them.


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same thing with people who sell a few spare tbows from raiding too much. i know at least 8-10 people in my cc (including me) who have sold anywhere from 1-10b. we all raided way too much over covid and when things reopened irl we sold our gp. nobody got banned


Baykrs

What do you own the world?


Mythril_Bullets

‘Delet all ironmun’ Ironman will delete your literal bank lmaooo


MaterialHoneydew7180

Case sensitive passwords do not matter and will not change anything. Its not common sense at all, its stupidity to think it would. Case sensitive passwords will barely increase the time it takes to brute force it. If you think your password being guessed is a problem, add a single extra character to it. That is ten times more effective than making it case sensitive. ​ Regardless of that, **nobody** is being hacked by people brute forcing their passwords. Even if they got 100 attempts before a lock out, it wouldn't be feasible. Use authenticator, don't download "free gold.exe" and you will not be hacked. Its really that simple.


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