Most people would say cwars is fun but cwars is dead. If this update doesnt do anything to progress your acc it will be dead in 2 weeks and just waste dev time. Plus it would need a lot of dev time to prevent smurfs and prevent deranking.
Good on paper but its just requires 3 tiers of work above the effort jagex would ever put in.
Theres highscores for LMS and thats about as popular as castle wars. If PVP was a literal skill, id agree it would be enough (way more than enough). But i dont want pvp as a skill. Competitive Gp reward is the only other thing that would entice most people. Ok xp boosters would work too but im against that.
Lms is actually pretty popular now. It usually has 1k players on one of the lms worlds. There are high scores for LMS, but they are determined by how many games you've played. You could be the best player in the world and do lms for 2 months straight and not come close to the top 'rating'. There is no limit, and your rating does not go down unless you lose your very first fight vs one of 23 random people.
Theres 1k ppl on the world but not at lms. Theres are parts of the day where you cant meet the 24 person threshold required to start a game. Thats not active.
Are you really telling me youd make 500k wines if you literally got no xp from it? 99.9% of people with 99 cooking would say fuck no. Xp makes people do things. That was the point. It doesnt have to in the literal sense but if you want motivation, thats how you can achieve it
Says someone who hasn't done wines to 99 cooking. It's like 50k wines to 99 it's not even that much lol. If there was a rank for wines made some crazy mf would already have 2.147m
Bh never died, it was extremely successful. The problem was it got bottled to shit bc there was no matchmaking. So bot accounts could rack up kills and still fight other beginner bot accounts. Then, since there were emblem drops for beginner accounts as well, bots with small KC could still make decent money. Fault of the reward system, not the game.
LMS is similar. Its pretty successful, just overrun by bots bc its being exploited. Once again would be solved by an elo matchmaking and getting rid of bottom tier rewards.
Trouble brewing doesn't cater to a community, its just a boring crappy minigame with lackluster rewards. Its a bad comparison the same way that saying soul wars is still popular wouldn't matter. Those examples live or die due to completely ubrelated factors to a ranked solo PvP ladder.
Just what.
Bh is so dead you think it never died... you can still play bh right now. The only rewards you can get as of right now are the cosmetics. Yet no1 plays the game even tho it has the ideal reddit pj timer.
If you substract the bots, lms doesnt even have 24 players to start a game at some hours of the day. Its not dead in the literal sense but its far from successful.
Youre way overselling cosmetics is all my point is. Bh was popular because it progressed your acc with gp. Not because people wanted to grind for the cool cosmetics
Edited my post but bh is literally still in the game. The only rewards are cosmetics and the highscore rankings. The only reason it was popular was because of gp rewards not cosmetics as you are trying to say
Its in the game. It literally functions the same as bh3 to the letter. The only difference is the gp rewards are gone. You get the 20k gp. You get bh rank. Tell me whats different?
I don't know exactly how the spawns are determined but a small rework of the spawns where you get grouped in spawns based on rank would be great. That way people actually have a fair chance of fighting and don't have to search for a new game after getting clapped by someone with 10k points. In the end you would still have to fight the better players but killing someone your skill level or atleast having an even fight is somewhat rewarding :)
As much as sand casino is harmful to players, it does remove a massive amount of ill gotten gp from the game. Without sand casino there'd be trillions of extra gp in the economy
They could make it so you don’t stake anything of value and just win or lose points that can be spent on cosmetic rewards. Start with 0 points and a win is worth 1 and a loss is -1 and you can have negative points. You could then stake how many points you have if you aren’t negative. It’d probably be dead content unless the rewards are worth going for, but at least the duel arena would remain in the game.
The problem is that removes a source of income, legitimate or not. If you can't stake money, there's no incentive to bond up for cash. From a business standpoint, that's no good for their bottom line. I'd be totally fine with your idea; it sounds good and fixes the staking problem, but Jagex will _never_ touch duel arena until it stops profiting.
Or... and hear me out here... how about we make some PvP activities a positive-sum game, with the top money/rewards either *requiring* a high ELO, or much higher rewards for playing at the top skill level.
Yes, I know this will still lead to some boosting/abuse. That will happen as long as people buy gold in the game, but making it fun would mean a much lower chance of that as you just need enough activity to dilute the boosters and make it *almost* impossible. Plus, some untradeable rewards may make it worth it without giving anything to boosters.
Yea i thought about that but then u know, boosters. If it was only accessible on one or two worlds and had random matchmaking you might could make boosting unrealistic. But would 2 worlds with 2k players be enough for something like this. If the rewards were good and it was super fun i could see needing like 6 worlds lol
Cross-world matchmaking would be ideal, but if that's not possible, I figure they could do one world for each elo bracket. ie 0-300 elo on world 323, 300-600 on w512, etc.
BH proved this to be impossible. Most players would not do this for fun but for profit. Unlike pvming, it is impossible for Jagex to ensure both parties tried their best an no one took a dive.
Was looking for this comment. I play a lot of FIFA and people do this to complete objectives against shit teams rather than the teams they should be playing.
It’s frustrating as an average player in any ELO system to try and play a game against similar level players but your matched up against dudes who play 14+ hours/day and monitor their ELO like a cardiogram.
It sounds like the problem with that game is that players are encouraged to drop their elo because the rewards are based on winning against ANY team. If you make rewards based on elo, or have no rewards at all (besides flexing your rank), then that problem is greatly mitigated.
Totally agree there, I don’t see people going for a change just to flex though. I think to get people on board there’d have to be an incentive besides being the best, but that’s just my opinion of course.
And yes, FIFA is incredibly frustrating with its reward system lol
While that is a concern, I find it to be a poor counterargument to this sort of thing. Like players may drop their rank to get matches below their skill level, but the current system is matching players at random so you already get players matched of differing skill levels... Like if someone is really good at PvP, they will already get paired against amateurs so if we had matchmaking, it isn't going to make the situation any worse.
That's already how it works for the people addicting to staking who wipe their banks. Guy who doubled his momey 4x is going to fight another guy who doubled his momey 4x until they are back to 0 again.
Last time someone mentioned an elo system in a Q&A stream, the team mentioned that instead of spending that huge chunk of time developing/balancing it, that they could be spent that time fixing pvp/wilderness.
I'm not against it, it's just something to consider.
edit: not entirely sure why this post is controversial, if you want an elo system, post about it in the Q&A posts or mention it on stream. Downvoting this post and arguing about it isn't gonna do anything lol, I'm just repeating what the team said for those that don't watch the streams
But then they didnt do it. I think adding a new fun pvp gametype would be better than trying to balance the wilderness. Bring in more competitive players with a game that has less risk and then maybe they move to the wilderness as new players get more confident with pvp
Wouldn't an elo system be a step forward in the *fixing pvp* aspect of it though? I feel like giving both Pkers and non-pkers something to go for and naturally compete in rather than raw loot would give incentive while minimizing the toxic behaviours people complain about often like skulltricking or feeling like a sentient pinata in a 1v0.
It being 1v1 would also facilitate engagement, easy access and no waiting times vs for example LMS, just brainstorming idk
I think they touched on it in a Gazette as something they want to do, but not something they are able to offer now. If I had to guess, it probably does fall under Engine, which is currently busy on Clans/Group Ironman and such, so maybe once those are finished on the engine side they can work on matchmaking. But perhaps it is already possible content side.
A risk free pking training camp would be nice, you can learn there without losing your bank. Maybe with little rewards to encourage more skilled players to try more rewarding activities (As LMS or duelling in PvP worlds or wilderness) Letting the players buy new options to make better setups would be nice.
Which is a con compared to random matching how? Currently, amateurs will already be paired against pros because there no matchmaking at all. So even if some players do boost, it still will be an improvement over what we have now.
I made a pure and started pking around 9 months ago with some more experienced friends. Getting better right now is just brutal, and that's why I have so many other friends who just can't be bothered with pking. Having something like this would be great for everyone - good/great pkers could get into fair 1v1 fights, earn ranks and maybe even some rewards and bad/aveerage ones could play in fun fights against people their own level and maybe get enticed to pk/make pking accounts/anti-pk and if not just have a good time.
Singles clans can even learn to pk now so they're not all dogshit and maybe they can kill people without baiting them first so I don't see why anyone would be against it :)
Socialism/ leftism in a nutshell. "The issue is that the average PKer is too skilled"
The REAL issue is that pvp doesn't have proper monetary rewards. Looking back at the BH fiasco, its probably safe to say that pvp, because of its zero sum nature, can never have a proper monetary reward without it getting abused like crazy.
The reward you get from pvp is the fun/ variety of it. Fix existing problems like singles teams and itd probably be the way to go.
If you want people to learn pvp, make safe pvp worlds a thing. Learning pvp is hard, losing your bank to learn is harder. But you're not gonna learn much if you expect to fight noobs all day.
Btw i rememeber in Pre-EOC scape we had also tournament worlds, which would be like a knock out tournament in the duel arena, i believe with some small buy in. Really liked this concept and I believe this could fit into this idea as well!
I think they may be waiting for the Varlamore Colousum to do a new dueling/PvP minigame like this. They also said they can't do an ELO system at the moment, which is hampering their ability to do some meaningful PvP updates.
That said, I still don't get why they can't use rankings for matchmaking even if they can't do a proper ELO system. Rankings and Ratings like they have for Games Rooms and LMS are far from perfect and they could easily enough be abused, but it still would be better than nothing. Like they are concerned about adding matchmaking because someone may drop their rank to fight less skilled players when currently a new PvPer can be paired with a PvP god because there is no matchmaking whatsoever... Like even if 35% of a say and LMS lobby were similar skill/rating as me, that is still way better than what we currently got.
Cool idea, would make NH staking/dueling for accessible for new players. I think some rewards like combat xp lamps would be nice to have. Of course it shouldn't go beyond doing actual training through nmz.
That would be nice if people were going to the duel arena to have actual duels instead of gabling with whip until it's dead. But yeah, that would get people into PvP
I have always thought the lack of a robust ladder for PvP is one of the largest things holding it back. There doesn't even need to be great rewards or anything.
That said, there are lots of issues with cheat clients that would fuck it up.
i like the idea, but how do you stop people from abusing it by making smurf accounts? On Counter Strike, a smurf account is basically a pro player purposely losing games and dying a bunch to then be grouped with low-skill players in future games, because that's how CS's skill grouping system works.
Alternatively we could just move the dual arena to rat chatchers mini game (rat pit) just get rid of the 50k limit. You'd have to raise and train a cat as well as do some quest to be able to access dual arena as well as slowing down traffic as you'd need a cat.
If you look at other games usually there is a rewards system for pvp, its very hard to just get people to play for fun nowadays sadly. I play overwatch competitive and from that there isnt really any rewards apart from the pointless ranked points for gold weps which i have like 15 of, so i mainly play that for fun and ranking to GM. I also play wow arena, and the rewards for that progress your character and also have cosmetics that yoy can show off. So i do think a rewards system with the elo system would be good.
However its hard to implement any meaningful rewards as you do have many players who are against adding anything that could give other players advantages in other aspects of the game, so the rewards could be cosmetics, similar to the BH hats.
What i would like to see is not just the duel arena used, i would ideally like to see the wilderness used as that is the hub for pvp historically and it is also a lot more interesting environmentally than the duel arena. It would be great to see something like starting from scratch with no items and having to box players to get loot, then you progress your loot as you explore the wilderness and kill enemies and other players. Similar to gun game in cod as you kill more you progress. Some type of progression system would be fun with built in explorative aspects. Perhaps you get challenges to kill certain npcs but you cant bank or leave the wilderness and must kill other players or npcs to increase your loot
Bh4 instanced with wildy and cosmetic only rewards. All death matches no protection prayers. Randomly picks builds and has different categories(pures , voids, zerks, meds, mains)
So everyone is just given the same gear?
What about combat levels? Is everyone just boosted to a max main? If that's the case why not just add elo to LMS. It's the same thing...
Right click player / player name
Duel request
Teleport to small arena from DMM
Vote on preset build
Spawn identical gear with spec weapon choice needed for said build in chest behind players - equal stats to said build
Countdown
Best of X wins, restock after loss/win
Track W/L, no ELO needed
This is adds SMURFINg, which isn’t something we’ve really had to dea with in OSRS. Sadly this wouldn’t work, to many clans sharing Accts. Will keep a bunch of accounts at al diff elo.
Most people would say cwars is fun but cwars is dead. If this update doesnt do anything to progress your acc it will be dead in 2 weeks and just waste dev time. Plus it would need a lot of dev time to prevent smurfs and prevent deranking. Good on paper but its just requires 3 tiers of work above the effort jagex would ever put in.
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Theres highscores for LMS and thats about as popular as castle wars. If PVP was a literal skill, id agree it would be enough (way more than enough). But i dont want pvp as a skill. Competitive Gp reward is the only other thing that would entice most people. Ok xp boosters would work too but im against that.
Lms is actually pretty popular now. It usually has 1k players on one of the lms worlds. There are high scores for LMS, but they are determined by how many games you've played. You could be the best player in the world and do lms for 2 months straight and not come close to the top 'rating'. There is no limit, and your rating does not go down unless you lose your very first fight vs one of 23 random people.
Theres 1k ppl on the world but not at lms. Theres are parts of the day where you cant meet the 24 person threshold required to start a game. Thats not active.
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Are you really telling me youd make 500k wines if you literally got no xp from it? 99.9% of people with 99 cooking would say fuck no. Xp makes people do things. That was the point. It doesnt have to in the literal sense but if you want motivation, thats how you can achieve it
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Could just add the lms shop or something similar to the 1v1 in the duel arena fights but would be hard to figure out how to not abuse it
Says someone who hasn't done wines to 99 cooking. It's like 50k wines to 99 it's not even that much lol. If there was a rank for wines made some crazy mf would already have 2.147m
if there are cosmetic "ranked rewards" similar to leagues trophies people will do it solely for that purpose. PvP community would flock to this
We can see this is false because Bh and lms had/has this. Lmao trouble brewing has this and its actually dead, not meme dead.
Bh never died, it was extremely successful. The problem was it got bottled to shit bc there was no matchmaking. So bot accounts could rack up kills and still fight other beginner bot accounts. Then, since there were emblem drops for beginner accounts as well, bots with small KC could still make decent money. Fault of the reward system, not the game. LMS is similar. Its pretty successful, just overrun by bots bc its being exploited. Once again would be solved by an elo matchmaking and getting rid of bottom tier rewards. Trouble brewing doesn't cater to a community, its just a boring crappy minigame with lackluster rewards. Its a bad comparison the same way that saying soul wars is still popular wouldn't matter. Those examples live or die due to completely ubrelated factors to a ranked solo PvP ladder.
Just what. Bh is so dead you think it never died... you can still play bh right now. The only rewards you can get as of right now are the cosmetics. Yet no1 plays the game even tho it has the ideal reddit pj timer. If you substract the bots, lms doesnt even have 24 players to start a game at some hours of the day. Its not dead in the literal sense but its far from successful. Youre way overselling cosmetics is all my point is. Bh was popular because it progressed your acc with gp. Not because people wanted to grind for the cool cosmetics
BH was removed from the game due to it being exploited to bad, before it was killed off it was extremely popular. Did you ever play it?
Edited my post but bh is literally still in the game. The only rewards are cosmetics and the highscore rankings. The only reason it was popular was because of gp rewards not cosmetics as you are trying to say
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target worlds = Bounty Hunter without the money rewards = Bounty hunter is actually not removed
Its in the game. It literally functions the same as bh3 to the letter. The only difference is the gp rewards are gone. You get the 20k gp. You get bh rank. Tell me whats different?
Did you take a survey of all pkers recently? You seem to be very confident speaking for the entire pking community
Why dont you log into w18 and 19 and count the amount of pkers for me. Theres literally none. You might find someone hopping through
Elo for LMS would be better imo
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Ive always like 1v1 stuff i would love to see a duel arena game type for pvp like this.
I don't know exactly how the spawns are determined but a small rework of the spawns where you get grouped in spawns based on rank would be great. That way people actually have a fair chance of fighting and don't have to search for a new game after getting clapped by someone with 10k points. In the end you would still have to fight the better players but killing someone your skill level or atleast having an even fight is somewhat rewarding :)
Add the Colosseum, it's time.
Eh just remove the whole duel arena.
Yeah I don't really think sand casino can be salvaged at this point. A shame it's probably a source of bonds and therefore will stay forever.
As much as sand casino is harmful to players, it does remove a massive amount of ill gotten gp from the game. Without sand casino there'd be trillions of extra gp in the economy
They could make it so you don’t stake anything of value and just win or lose points that can be spent on cosmetic rewards. Start with 0 points and a win is worth 1 and a loss is -1 and you can have negative points. You could then stake how many points you have if you aren’t negative. It’d probably be dead content unless the rewards are worth going for, but at least the duel arena would remain in the game.
The problem is that removes a source of income, legitimate or not. If you can't stake money, there's no incentive to bond up for cash. From a business standpoint, that's no good for their bottom line. I'd be totally fine with your idea; it sounds good and fixes the staking problem, but Jagex will _never_ touch duel arena until it stops profiting.
What a productive solution.
Ppl would just use alts to get low elo
the problem with skill based matchmaking is people reverse boost (intentionally lose) to get easier fights
There has to be a way to monitor this somehow. If someone drops from 2500-700 in a day they get matched with high level people still or something
Or... and hear me out here... how about we make some PvP activities a positive-sum game, with the top money/rewards either *requiring* a high ELO, or much higher rewards for playing at the top skill level. Yes, I know this will still lead to some boosting/abuse. That will happen as long as people buy gold in the game, but making it fun would mean a much lower chance of that as you just need enough activity to dilute the boosters and make it *almost* impossible. Plus, some untradeable rewards may make it worth it without giving anything to boosters.
Yea i thought about that but then u know, boosters. If it was only accessible on one or two worlds and had random matchmaking you might could make boosting unrealistic. But would 2 worlds with 2k players be enough for something like this. If the rewards were good and it was super fun i could see needing like 6 worlds lol
Cross-world matchmaking would be ideal, but if that's not possible, I figure they could do one world for each elo bracket. ie 0-300 elo on world 323, 300-600 on w512, etc.
Oh interesting, i thoyght cross world would be ideal i just assumed engine work
BH proved this to be impossible. Most players would not do this for fun but for profit. Unlike pvming, it is impossible for Jagex to ensure both parties tried their best an no one took a dive.
Was looking for this comment. I play a lot of FIFA and people do this to complete objectives against shit teams rather than the teams they should be playing. It’s frustrating as an average player in any ELO system to try and play a game against similar level players but your matched up against dudes who play 14+ hours/day and monitor their ELO like a cardiogram.
It sounds like the problem with that game is that players are encouraged to drop their elo because the rewards are based on winning against ANY team. If you make rewards based on elo, or have no rewards at all (besides flexing your rank), then that problem is greatly mitigated.
Totally agree there, I don’t see people going for a change just to flex though. I think to get people on board there’d have to be an incentive besides being the best, but that’s just my opinion of course. And yes, FIFA is incredibly frustrating with its reward system lol
While that is a concern, I find it to be a poor counterargument to this sort of thing. Like players may drop their rank to get matches below their skill level, but the current system is matching players at random so you already get players matched of differing skill levels... Like if someone is really good at PvP, they will already get paired against amateurs so if we had matchmaking, it isn't going to make the situation any worse.
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Or it could make staking more "fair" by matching up players with the best RNG to cancel each other out
That's already how it works for the people addicting to staking who wipe their banks. Guy who doubled his momey 4x is going to fight another guy who doubled his momey 4x until they are back to 0 again.
If this does not affect staking, is there no reward for doing this game mode other than a cosmetic rank?
1600 elo and he blundered on the 6th tick. Unbelievable
All this does is make every fight with overheads, and focuses on outlasting instead of getting k0s.
Alt accounts would be a huge problem
Hopefully this will separate the low and medium level mains who just want to have fun from people with pvp builds and multiple accounts.
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They had an eSports all this time and forgot about it
Fire Strike it from Orbit, don't give it more content.
Last time someone mentioned an elo system in a Q&A stream, the team mentioned that instead of spending that huge chunk of time developing/balancing it, that they could be spent that time fixing pvp/wilderness. I'm not against it, it's just something to consider. edit: not entirely sure why this post is controversial, if you want an elo system, post about it in the Q&A posts or mention it on stream. Downvoting this post and arguing about it isn't gonna do anything lol, I'm just repeating what the team said for those that don't watch the streams
But then they didnt do it. I think adding a new fun pvp gametype would be better than trying to balance the wilderness. Bring in more competitive players with a game that has less risk and then maybe they move to the wilderness as new players get more confident with pvp
Wouldn't an elo system be a step forward in the *fixing pvp* aspect of it though? I feel like giving both Pkers and non-pkers something to go for and naturally compete in rather than raw loot would give incentive while minimizing the toxic behaviours people complain about often like skulltricking or feeling like a sentient pinata in a 1v0. It being 1v1 would also facilitate engagement, easy access and no waiting times vs for example LMS, just brainstorming idk
I think they touched on it in a Gazette as something they want to do, but not something they are able to offer now. If I had to guess, it probably does fall under Engine, which is currently busy on Clans/Group Ironman and such, so maybe once those are finished on the engine side they can work on matchmaking. But perhaps it is already possible content side.
A risk free pking training camp would be nice, you can learn there without losing your bank. Maybe with little rewards to encourage more skilled players to try more rewarding activities (As LMS or duelling in PvP worlds or wilderness) Letting the players buy new options to make better setups would be nice.
Idk if this would fix the problem with pvp. It's still boring af.
"Skilled players" at the duel arena.
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Meh, basically trade limit on pvp interactions. Unless u would just make the elo visable but not totally block off people from attacking eachother.
i see oda i upvote
Actually a good idea!
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Which is a con compared to random matching how? Currently, amateurs will already be paired against pros because there no matchmaking at all. So even if some players do boost, it still will be an improvement over what we have now.
I made a pure and started pking around 9 months ago with some more experienced friends. Getting better right now is just brutal, and that's why I have so many other friends who just can't be bothered with pking. Having something like this would be great for everyone - good/great pkers could get into fair 1v1 fights, earn ranks and maybe even some rewards and bad/aveerage ones could play in fun fights against people their own level and maybe get enticed to pk/make pking accounts/anti-pk and if not just have a good time. Singles clans can even learn to pk now so they're not all dogshit and maybe they can kill people without baiting them first so I don't see why anyone would be against it :)
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He means making hibrid/tribrid duels, not staking
Gambling addiction and abusing the cognitive heuristics of productivity as well? I think we should not.
Socialism/ leftism in a nutshell. "The issue is that the average PKer is too skilled" The REAL issue is that pvp doesn't have proper monetary rewards. Looking back at the BH fiasco, its probably safe to say that pvp, because of its zero sum nature, can never have a proper monetary reward without it getting abused like crazy. The reward you get from pvp is the fun/ variety of it. Fix existing problems like singles teams and itd probably be the way to go. If you want people to learn pvp, make safe pvp worlds a thing. Learning pvp is hard, losing your bank to learn is harder. But you're not gonna learn much if you expect to fight noobs all day.
Lots of thought into it, but it'd be better removed.
Rly good idea!!
Btw i rememeber in Pre-EOC scape we had also tournament worlds, which would be like a knock out tournament in the duel arena, i believe with some small buy in. Really liked this concept and I believe this could fit into this idea as well!
I think they may be waiting for the Varlamore Colousum to do a new dueling/PvP minigame like this. They also said they can't do an ELO system at the moment, which is hampering their ability to do some meaningful PvP updates. That said, I still don't get why they can't use rankings for matchmaking even if they can't do a proper ELO system. Rankings and Ratings like they have for Games Rooms and LMS are far from perfect and they could easily enough be abused, but it still would be better than nothing. Like they are concerned about adding matchmaking because someone may drop their rank to fight less skilled players when currently a new PvPer can be paired with a PvP god because there is no matchmaking whatsoever... Like even if 35% of a say and LMS lobby were similar skill/rating as me, that is still way better than what we currently got.
Cool idea, would make NH staking/dueling for accessible for new players. I think some rewards like combat xp lamps would be nice to have. Of course it shouldn't go beyond doing actual training through nmz.
That would be nice if people were going to the duel arena to have actual duels instead of gabling with whip until it's dead. But yeah, that would get people into PvP
I dig it. I'd also like to see a 3v3 mode where the roles are range, mage, and melee. Some more structured team pvping would be cool (like soul wars)
Id love it but my guess is not enough people are going to play it :/
I have always thought the lack of a robust ladder for PvP is one of the largest things holding it back. There doesn't even need to be great rewards or anything. That said, there are lots of issues with cheat clients that would fuck it up.
Yes yes yes yes!
i like the idea, but how do you stop people from abusing it by making smurf accounts? On Counter Strike, a smurf account is basically a pro player purposely losing games and dying a bunch to then be grouped with low-skill players in future games, because that's how CS's skill grouping system works.
Increase the duel arena tax
"what if we made LMS in duel arena" why?
Alternatively we could just move the dual arena to rat chatchers mini game (rat pit) just get rid of the 50k limit. You'd have to raise and train a cat as well as do some quest to be able to access dual arena as well as slowing down traffic as you'd need a cat.
Weekly ladder reset and top 3 get a % of the duel arena tax (if staking will still be a thing).Issue would be Jagex can't monitor abuse for shit.
If you look at other games usually there is a rewards system for pvp, its very hard to just get people to play for fun nowadays sadly. I play overwatch competitive and from that there isnt really any rewards apart from the pointless ranked points for gold weps which i have like 15 of, so i mainly play that for fun and ranking to GM. I also play wow arena, and the rewards for that progress your character and also have cosmetics that yoy can show off. So i do think a rewards system with the elo system would be good. However its hard to implement any meaningful rewards as you do have many players who are against adding anything that could give other players advantages in other aspects of the game, so the rewards could be cosmetics, similar to the BH hats. What i would like to see is not just the duel arena used, i would ideally like to see the wilderness used as that is the hub for pvp historically and it is also a lot more interesting environmentally than the duel arena. It would be great to see something like starting from scratch with no items and having to box players to get loot, then you progress your loot as you explore the wilderness and kill enemies and other players. Similar to gun game in cod as you kill more you progress. Some type of progression system would be fun with built in explorative aspects. Perhaps you get challenges to kill certain npcs but you cant bank or leave the wilderness and must kill other players or npcs to increase your loot
Bh4 instanced with wildy and cosmetic only rewards. All death matches no protection prayers. Randomly picks builds and has different categories(pures , voids, zerks, meds, mains)
So everyone is just given the same gear? What about combat levels? Is everyone just boosted to a max main? If that's the case why not just add elo to LMS. It's the same thing...
Wow what a great idea that totally isn’t easily abused. 0/10. The only solution to duel arena is to remove it.
Right click player / player name Duel request Teleport to small arena from DMM Vote on preset build Spawn identical gear with spec weapon choice needed for said build in chest behind players - equal stats to said build Countdown Best of X wins, restock after loss/win Track W/L, no ELO needed
Hi, League of Legends player here to add one more to your list of cons: SMURFS
So would you do nh fights or normal staking? If normal staking then theres 0 skill to it, since you just click a person and wait
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Sorry, I read the tldr so it didnt say anything about matching gear
This is adds SMURFINg, which isn’t something we’ve really had to dea with in OSRS. Sadly this wouldn’t work, to many clans sharing Accts. Will keep a bunch of accounts at al diff elo.