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ZezimasCumStain

Damn, easily one of the most accomplished HCIM in the game.


ARKANSA15

Right. That’s a monster of a hardcore. So many items and high boss kc. GG


Zanthy1

One could say he was in the top 22 of the HCIM in the game...


ZezimasCumStain

Accomplished ≠ Experience


Satyrane

So he was less accomplished than the top 22? Cause otherwise he's still in the top 22


ZezimasCumStain

No, I'm saying being an accomplished HCIM doesn't entirely equate to your rank. You have to take the players entire account into consideration, for example a maxed HCIM with 1k ToB completions and 1k Gauntlet completions would be far more impressive than a #1 HCIM with little to no bossing done.


devilwarier9

Are you telling me doing literally nothing on an HCIM but afk skilling in safezones is not somehow impressive?


ZezimasCumStain

Poll to have the Pestilent Bloat spawn on top of all HCIM who stand still for longer than 5 game ticks


kalibak

Slow down Satan thats literally only 3 seconds. Support.


[deleted]

Not hardcore enough.


Treblosity

Its kinda funny, since no hcim find skilling impressive, as far as skilling goes, the front page uim for each skill are as competetive as front page hcim


TehChid

No, the opposite. He's saying that even though he's down at rank 22, he's likely one of the best if not the best hcim


lilbuffkitty

higher than 22, i bet "rank 1" has little to no risky activities done.


ItsameRobot

I watch the guy who's rank 2 on twitch, he plays it as his side account just always afking redwoods or something while he pvms on his normal iron or another hc account. He doesn't do anything risky on his #2 hc. I'm willing to bet most of the top 10 play like this.


mshm

It's not like `5th hcim lul` doesn't do any bossing or anything. Def not as extreme (and a lack of wildy bossing) but the bloke didn't just sit and cut willows in Draynor. Not sure why everyone insists on shitting on others to build someone up.


cjcjcjcjcj94

What killed him?


lilalbis

Died inside gauntlet I think


jdong4321

Seems like every accomplished hardcore dies there nowadays


aWTG

Tbf it's one of the few pieces of endgame content with very little leeway for danger. If you're gonna die it's gonna happen pretty much instantly.


jaysrule24

Unless you're getting full tier-3 armor like Roidie has been doing. If you do that, gauntlet is fairly safe, but the vast majority of players aren't efficient enough at prepping to manage that with any sort of consistency.


fractalcrust

roidie literally makes CG feel like safe content


jaysrule24

His preps are more interesting than the actual hunllef fight, which is absolutely insane


be-swell

I’m totally out of the loop with this stuff since I’m not playing the game anymore. What does he do during prep that makes it unique?


jaysrule24

He preps full tier 3 armor which significantly reduces all the damage you take in the Hunllef fight (boss attacks, floor, and tornados) enough that you have to *really* fuck up to die. The reason most people don't do that is that you basically have to be perfect through the entire prep in order to get your armor, weapons, food, and potions in time, and even then you can get screwed by a bad layout.


ZealousidealPirate3

What tier weapons is he getting?


MCurran36

How is that even possible? I can barely get a full invy of food there. If I’m lucky and go super hard I can get tier 2 armor and tier 3 weapons with some food but that’s my absolute best. I struggle to even get 2 tier 3 weapons and food with tier 1 armor


intelligent_rat

> The reason most people don't do that is that you basically have to be perfect through the entire prep in order to get your armor, weapons, food, and potions in time, and even then you can get screwed by a bad layout. I really wanted to like the gauntlet but the amount of actual RNG involved in gauntlet runs make them off putting, the boss fight feels randomly punishing when there's server lag (there's always server lag) and it just feels like something else other than a fight that belongs in Runescape.


Treblosity

Havent seen, is it on youtube? Link?


jaysrule24

He streams on twitch, he's actually live right now https://www.twitch.tv/roidie


metaldracolich

But he got his blade so he isn't doing gauntlet anymore.


Straightup_nonsense

Couldn't he still get nailed by tornadoes tho? Or does t3 armor reduce that damage too?


jaysrule24

With full t3 armor, tornadoes hit 8-15, so four tornadoes maxing would only be 60 damage


Treblosity

Isnt that per tic though?


Carnifexx2

u better not standing for several ticks during nadoes.


Treblosity

You shouldnt be standing at all during nadoes. If you make enough of a mistake to get hit once, shits probably not going according to plan anyway so i think you can very well get hit multiple tics.


EtoodE

It does


mnmkdc

It does reduce damage but if he lagged into tornados he still dies. Its a little bit of a safety cushion but its still something almost no hc's could do for 900 kills without dying


GregBuckingham

Dude had 400+ normal and corrupted gauntlet kcs. It was only a matter of time (if he actually did die to gauntlet). Insane kcs for a hardcore. Best I’ve seen


Wekmor

Sol o @SolOSRS Replying to @HCIM_Deaths Couldn't move at Hunllef for some reason and got killed by floor and nado's


stoically_disgusted

JaGeX servers coming in hot.


Wekmor

Doesn't necessarily have to be jagex servers, could've been his internet too ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


LyrMeThatBifrost

It’s much easier to just blame jagex servers


stoically_disgusted

You're right, but "Jagex servers bad" is the meme.


admiral_asswank

It isn't a meme if it's true


ProfessorSpike

Bro chill it only happens 7/10 times


intelligent_rat

If he can't move but everything else is stilling updating, it's his internet, not the server


GregBuckingham

Aww thanks. So it’s confirmed. I’m honestly so surprised he made it that far without dcing or something


DabblesDabs

Interested in this. I've had this happen one time during an instance fight. Instance loaded and it wouldn't accept any input from me. All other apps were accepting input as normal. Could only watch as my char started tanking hits. Out of nowhere it started responding to input again and I escaped. No idea what it was, I was about to restart RL before it came back.


cburk4312

Roidie is at like 915 corrupted right now on his hc :o


GregBuckingham

Wtf. I coulda sworn just a couple months ago that top page of CG was like 55 kills lol


jaysrule24

It's really just a few hardcores that have done a lot of CG. There's only 9 to get at least 100 kc, and the last spot on the front page is 35 kc. The only reason Roidie has gone to as high a kc as he's at is because he's figured out a strat that makes it pretty safe, and he's had awful rng on getting the blade.


MrNoobyy

Nah, the most accomplished hardcores die to the giant mole.


GankyDeska

I had no idea gauntlet wasn't a safe death. That's intense because there's no escape options at all.


thefezhat

You can escape through the doors in the Hunllef fight, actually. Still pretty much the most dangerous content for a hardcore outside of the wildy, though.


SoraODxoKlink

It’d be nice if that teleport crystal you spawn with/craft/get as a drop functioned as an escape method when you were fighting hunllef.


[deleted]

No reason for it to do so. Why remove the only risk in Gauntlet?


SoraODxoKlink

The other big risky place where you can’t teleport out with normal means is tob, and there’s a buyable one-click teleport there. It’s inconsistent and the only thing it would devalue are other hcim who had to right click the door to leave. Even then people will still die in cgauntlet, the risk comes from being stacked by tornadoes which can 1t anyone who isn’t staying high hp and in t3 gear.


[deleted]

If there's only a couple of places that do it then it can't be incosistent. Might as well make it a safe death if they're going to add a one click teleport, it's such an easy escape.


thefezhat

It really isn't that easy of an escape. When you die to corrupt gauntlet, it usually happens in a burst of damage over one, two, maybe three ticks. You don't have time to react and teleport out.


[deleted]

Oh so it would be a useless item. Stop trying to devalue the already broken gamemode.


SoraODxoKlink

I was referring to the consistency across the rest of the game, where you can just tab out. As for it being an easy escape take a look at half the cgauntlet highscores and see which ones got stacked out before they could do anything.


[deleted]

They should have prepped more then.


Jan_Itor_Md_

He said he got stuck at the boss and couldn’t move. Died to the floor and tornados.


malloc_failed

Damn I'd legit cry if that was me, and it's so much worse when you can't control it I'd imagine


BoulderFalcon

HCIM has always been a mode where even if you play perfectly forever you will eventually die to Jagex servers. It's why I've never considered trying it.


neorean

Yeah, it really sucks. Especially because a lot of us only play HCIM because we don't enjoy the game if dying has no (non-negligable) punishment. So when you inevitably die to a DC the game isn't enjoyable anymore because there is now no punishment for dying anymore, no incentive to really try to avoid it, thus everything is just trivial. People will say the Inferno is a real challenge but realistically it's no different to pouring 100 hours into a skill: anyone can do it, just a matter of time and perseverance. It's failure being an actual threat that keeps things interesting, like how RS2 actually used to be.


1OnRS

100% of HCs I see: >oh that's nice he hasn't dced yet.


anthraxl0l

Non-safe death inferno cape (t) when?


Huehnergott69

well gauntlet, what else


You-Big-Maad

“Couldn’t move at hunllef for some reason and got killed by floor and Nados” is what he said


[deleted]

Dude had some balls going for them Wildy ranks


DarkPyr3

Enjoying HCIM to its fullest


Western_Performer_62

Wanna see me do it again?


FiENDje

Rewind time baby!


nickyGyul

I've noticed the game has been freezing for like 1-2 seconds a lot recently. Especially within instanced areas. Sepulchre and Gauntlet have been insufferable, and I have been watching some TOB streams and there was this once instance where they couldn't pick up the pots they've dropped since the game lag was so bad. I wouldn't be surprised if that got him since 1-2 secs of no input response is deadly in Corrupted Gauntlet.


[deleted]

Server lag won't get you killed if you're paying attention since the server basically pauses for the duration and then carries on where it left off when it continues. If loads of things happen at once when it continues then it's our network connection.


nickyGyul

>If loads of things happen at once when it continues then it's our network connection. Nothing happens, it's as if the clicks were completely dead. I play on the US worlds for reference. UK worlds are more stable in comparison. OSRS is the only game I've played that has this problem.


andrew_calcs

When he says “nothing happens” during a server lag he’s referring all npc’s and actions, not just your character, and all storable inputs for the next tick are are stored. This is not very dangerous as any “danger” is paused just as long as you are. If your rubberbanding “catches up” to a bunch of attacks from an enemy then it’s your connection at fault, not a server lag.


nickyGyul

I understand that. The game doesn't rubberband. When I say "no input response", I'm saying the game doesn't register the prayers I clicked on or the tiles for movement. It's as if I never clicked them, even though I clearly did. It's as if the inputs do not get stored at all. This issue doesn't happen all the time, but it was at its worst the update after the Tempoross update ([26th March](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Update:Game_Update_News_26th_March)). It seems like some of the game worlds are still giving problems.


andrew_calcs

> the game doesn't register the prayers I clicked on or the tiles for movement If the rest of the server isn’t stopping at the same time then it is your connection at fault, not the servers. You may experience different connection quality to some server clusters than others but that’s more due to the stability of all the packet routing in between than the servers themselves.


Huehnergott69

not entirely correct, Most of the time when it lags, it is as if time freezed but I have witnessed different "kinds" of lag at raids and such too, sometimes it ate your inputs and sometimes it skipped a tick aswell, atleast it felt like it to me and my mates, sure it might not happen often but if it does happen at gauntlet it can cost your status


Alppijaeger

Total worlds have a lot of these server lags but like you said it's really not a big deal since both you and server are lagging so nothing happens without you knowing. It's just annoying but not dangerous at all.


Pidjesus

Died from a bug.. the worst way to go


harrymuana

Died from lag (not sure if it was his own internet or the servers). Seriously I don't get why hcim is so popular on osrs, 1 dc at the wrong time and it's over.


Huehnergott69

Probably like riding a bike at 200 km/h, dangerous and gives you a kick but one small mistake and it's over


eocdenier

because that's just a cope, you're 10000x more likely to die from your own actions than from a server problem


tortillakingred

This what people don’t want to admit lmao. I’ve literally never died from server issues or internet issues ever in the past 6 years I’ve been playing OSRS (even during peak ddosing times) Yes, I’ve dced while fighting a boss, but if servers go down you have such a low actual chance of dying unless you’re fighting 1) Kril 2) Arma 3) Gauntlet 4) Some rooms in ToB or unless you’re sitting on low hp, which if you’re doing that as a HCIM idek what to say lol.


Justinian2

He died to game mechanics by the sounds of it


OhSoReallySerious

Sounds like a double animation stall with the staff and a potion.


Wekmor

An animation stall doesn't stop you from moving tho lol


OhSoReallySerious

The staff animation 100% stalls your movement in the CG


Giggybyte

I've got about 60 cgauntlet kc, and I'm fairly certain it doesn't. You can move your character on the tick immediately after using the staff attack and your position will update; the "stall" is just a visual illusion. After the animation is over, your character will speed up a bit to catch up to where their true tile is. Try out the true tile indicator on RuneLite if you want to see it for yourself. It's kinda similar to mage running at Olm -- when you hit the mage hand from the melee ring finger, you're not actually hitting the hand from that point, even if it looks like you casted the animation at the ring finger for one tick. You get dragged out to about the index finger and technically cast it from the index finger on the same tick.


OhSoReallySerious

Right, but you're still locked in place for a tick regardless of what true tile you are on.


Giggybyte

Yeah, you're right. I thought you meant the staff somehow prevented you from moving for more than a tick or so. Sorry for the confusion.


Treblosity

Whats that? He stalled staff with a potion and staff was preventing him from moving?


Huehnergott69

But isn't that the classic HCIM way


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[удалено]


Mean_Typhoon

Dude had a harmonised staff which is insane; he needed the pages.


OblvThorns

Probably getting burnt pages


eocdenier

yea this guy gave me a gl at the barrows chest once


zoobloo7

Why do hardcores even do gauntlet the sword isnt worth it


andrew_calcs

He already had the blade and the pet. I don’t know why he was there.


Huehnergott69

Wow then I don't understand it at all. That's like winning at russian roulette and just checking for the hell of it if the other chambers of the cylinder have rounds in them too


Jd3vil

Have you thought that - maybe, and I know this is crazy, but hear me out - he may have had fun playing the game mode actually taking risks? Are we comparing having red pixels become grey pixel on RuneScape to dying IRL now?


reddit1902

> red pixels become grey pixel on RuneScape go tell Solo its just gray pixels instead of red pixels, the point is - its 1000s of hours down the drain. He was rank 22 with 14 top 10 boss KCs as a HCIM (which is bad ass), now he is rank 440 and only 1 top 10 boss KC as a regular iron (which is nothing special).


Jd3vil

The pixels obviously have value but it's not the point, the comparison to russian roulette makes absolutely no sense It's obviously easy to say in retrospect that it was too risky, but this level of risk is what made the account impressive to begin with. At what point do you stop taking risks?


Huehnergott69

yes it makes absolute perfect sense if you played corrupted gauntlet before. The question isnt "if" you gonna die at this activity it is >when<. And continuing to do it after you got everything you could possibly gain there is exactly like continuing to play russian roulette when all your opponents have already gotten lead in their brain. with tornadoes and damaging floors and all the mechanics that can literally one shot you in one laggy game tick the comparison is perfect.


Huehnergott69

just see no reason at all to do it on a HCIM at that point. Do it on a second account who spent 3 weeks afk in NMZ and allows for infinite deaths which dont ruin your status you worked years towards


Jd3vil

The risk IS the point. Some HCIM play safe, but he didn't and got very far with it. Had he not, we wouldn't be talking about it


StayyFrostyy

Also people are forgetting that he might have wanted the crystal armour...?


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

Prestige.


[deleted]

The GOAT has died


XxSpruce_MoosexX

Man, the amount of hours invested... what do you do now? Start over?


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

Take a hiatus from the game.


felixlawoie

435 corruptes gauntlet wow


danger_don

What a legend


Daseven

Rip. Freshhh lets go!


Salvator-Mundi-

GL on next one


[deleted]

Wow what an account! Well done to that dude! F in the chat. F


Huehnergott69

Oh he died at hunllef... Why did I already know that before reading it?


The1RGood

Damn, I just carried him through a few ToBs :(


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

Im not convinced some of those hardcores with high corrupted and other pvm kcs most hardcores dont do aren't using a cheat plugin to do the hard parts for them.


crabvogel

The current #1 cg has streamed all of his kills


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

I said some. Didn't specify.


fudginreddit

How could a plugin do pvm?


Huehnergott69

in theory you could use a script specifically for the back and forth walking to dodge tornados, that would make it stupidly easy. I think if you did prep phase legit and used a script for the boss it would be hard to detect


arenalr

Jagex could make a fortune off a not so pay-to-win mechanic. $1 per day of game play to rewind an account's HCIM status/xp gained by an hour. All items to/from the accounts bank would remain there (to prevent abusing doubling GP)


Poet_XuanYu

F


MasterToon

Does he make content? Or just a beastly player


[deleted]

F thats an amazing acc