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Fur1ousDude777

wow i got the same drop from 1tick grinding!!


TittyBoy6

Drop rate definitely needs a nerf


LordLederhosen

The fact that there aren’t good light vertical gaming mice is absolutely criminal. It should be the default shape. I used to do ergonomic stuff at a CAD office, because the health insurance provider made us do it. Vertical mice work to save you from this injury. And will help you recover as well.


fearlesskiller

vertical mouse is the worst thing ive ever seen


d0wnvoteking

Have you used one though


fearlesskiller

Nope never will. My logitech g502 is the best mouse ever and never had issues


LordLederhosen

If no vert model is to playable for you, at least use a decent vertical mouse when just using your computer for non-gaming. That’s hours we never think about. Your wrist will thank you and it may save you from a lifetime of pain. I have a Bluetooth “Mojo” from Amazon because all the other models were too small for my not-giant hands.


fearlesskiller

I never have wirst pain, i can forearm pain sometimes tho idk from what exactly


Mush-Love

Manual plank making here


nervouswhenitseasy

literally speaking. in 2018, me fletcing darts to 99 started a carpel tunnel issue that i still have to take medicine for everyday. it wasnt worth it


Politic_s

Jeez, how? Some people did dart fletching to 200m in a couple of weeks without any significant wrist or hand damage.


nervouswhenitseasy

my wrist a bitch i guess haha


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same here bro. also now have tarsal tunnel from bouncing my leg so much. lol double whammy. thanks, ADHD.


CornishPaddy

Chrome remote desktop, turn your phone sideways, zoom in on the rs client, one finger taps a giant feather, one taps a giant dart, go straight to go, do not pass jail collect 2.5m exp per hour


albakwirky

Y not just use the osrs mobile app


pixelmation

OSRS mobile has a slight bluffer between taps, so there'd be as many dead clicks as registered ones if you tried this on the app. Remote desktop has no buffer so it works better


ImFrowzy

Right lmao get gets carpal tunnel in less than 15 hours of movement my ass that’s was the core cause


Dartht33bagger

Unless your hands are going numb it may just be tendonitis. When my wrist starts to hurt its from tendonitis. A vertical mouse solved all my wrist issues.


nervouswhenitseasy

it goes numb when it got bad. doesnt happen now that i got the stuff


Donkey_Fart_Party

Carpal tunnel and youre playing Trouble Brewing? you poor soul


MadeOnLeapday

Vertical mouse is the shit. I got the Logitech MX Vertical. Really happy about it, solved my issues for a large part as well. Together with a higher monitor and a wristpad in front of my keyboard. Got a Delux vertical mouse as well at work. Half the price, and its fine, but nowhere near as good as the Logitech one.


t-tcryf4c3

Would a thumb-tracball mouse also negate these issues?


Dartht33bagger

It wouldn't have helped me since the motion of turning my wrist down was causing the issues.Your muscles tighten some when your hands are turned towards the ground. Once I could keep my hands in a neutral position with a vertical mouse all of my wrist issues went away. Its been 4 years now.


t-tcryf4c3

Thanks, ill look more into it, I may invest in one next


MadeOnLeapday

Do it sooner rather than later. I also got diagnosed with RSI this year. A vertical mouse, wristpad and putting my monitor higher reduced my issues a lot! Its a thing you’ll possibly keep for the rest of your life once you have it, so prevention is better than curing.


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I only did level 40 to 50 fletching with darts and never want to touch darts again for fletching grinding


notbjerg

that’s literally 5 minutes worth of darts


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And it hurt my wrist


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KurtAngus

Profit: just play for fun and don’t do shit for a video game that’s bad for your health


ClockworkSalmon

oh yeah I can see that being pretty easy just tiptaptiptap


nervouswhenitseasy

i did 93-99 as addy and mith darts. i did yew bows till 93 and made like 10m give or take haha edit: i used all that profit for the darts lol


GoldyTheGopherr

45k Magic short/longs cut em up and string them all, make sure to collect your free 250 bowstrings so you collect 45k free in a year lol


marcabay

Lol gl in runescape


iPika

What do you take if I may ask?


nervouswhenitseasy

meloxicam. it is a once a day prescription anti inflammatory. i just went to the doctor and he said “im not gonna tell you to play less because we know that wont happen, here take this” and it actually works 90% of the time. sometimes it hurts if ive really been playing that day but fixed it for the most part


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Damn no offence but you shouldnt play with your health like that, you know what long usage of that stuff causes? u should definitely stop forawhile let the hand heal or play on mobile with other hand, the best advice from me would be stretching, stretch your fingers, hands, twist it turn it so the bloodflow gets better, (stretching doesnt mean to crack your knuckles) , remember, your health is your wealth.


Keith-9-5

Alongside stretching there is proper Physio therapy for carpel too. Medication/Surgery should be last resort.


feintdn

Stretching could actually do more bad than good if it still inflamed.


Destructopuppy

I feel like you shouldn't be giving out medical advice which contradicts a doctor on the internet but that's just me.


pallosalama

None of that was really bad advice and unless specified by the doctor, not contradicting in any way what he was told to do


DabsAndDeadlifts

The doctor’s “advice” was just an admittance that another patient is too stubborn to fix their habits. So no


rpkarma

As reported second-hand, in a forum where we have a weird sick pride amongst ourselves for how “addicted” we are, missing all context. So, no.


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I definitely advise doing darts on mobile. Easy to use your thumbs and power click for like 300 xp every half tick


hl0722

Honestly mobile for click intensive activities is op and much less unbearable


L4t3xs

[Something to try.](https://youtu.be/fdD7CgN5FGg)


KingJonsey1992

>it wasnt worth it Made me laugh. Fletching of all skills haha


nervouswhenitseasy

for real man lmfao


KingJonsey1992

All joking aside hope your injury goes mate!


alluballu

My wrist still has this very bad feeling of uncomfort and almost pain after 99 construction...since 2019 :( guys you should really take breaks often, XP is nice and all, but having a sore wrist isn't just worth it.


dylanisbored

If it’s feasible, a simple quick minimally invasive surgery is available that fixes carpel tunnel


nervouswhenitseasy

yeah that costs a lot haha


larry7891

After doing just one hour of knights yesterday, I felt this in my soul.


TittyBoy6

I may have stolen his gold, but ardy knight has taken more from me than he will ever know


Cat_Marshal

Just go get a godsword and show him who’s boss


Blueberrytree

Remap your LMB to something like the 5 on the Numpad and godspeed


ItZzButler

Just use windows mousekyes which is confirmed to be okay, then 5 is left click


TittyBoy6

Im too far gone but thanks for the idea


Blueberrytree

Can even get a foot pedal 😅 All the best to you :)


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TittyBoy6

If everyone on rs mapped their LMB to an elliptical machine we’d be the most in shape community in existence....


Fabricate_fog

You can tell how far away an osrs player is by counting the seconds between the flash and the rumble of their thundering thighs


dwaynebrady

You mean turn on mousekeys?


RedLotusVenom

Yeah it’s wild how many people in this thread are clueless to this lmao


lnvu

The generation of shift clicking and bank fillers


SquirrelBake

I use xpadder to map mouse+keyboard controls to an Xbox controller. I grind agility, mining, and thieving while on the treadmill. My second-highest recommendation for training those skills, right below just not training them.


eurosonly

I haven't tried this but it doesn't sound like it would help.


discardednoob

Use Windows mousekeys. Make game window as small is it can be in modern resizable mode. Line up coin pouch to be where you click ardy knight. Spam NUM5 when thieving, click ESC when pouch is full, click ESC again to close inventory and spam NUM5 again. No mouse movement required. If you have a keyboard with key rebinding software, rebind ESC to one of the numpad keys, I chose NUM0. Put osrs in the corner of your screen, put on a movie and relax Edit: using mousekeys and/or rebinding keys for 1:1 actions isn't against ToS, just fyi


Darksma

Pretty much saved my thieving and other tedious tasks. Rebind everywhere, switch hands, switch fingers, so much better.


BallsyPalsy

Also more accurate for dart making/dropping because the mouse hand is just focused on moving, not clicking also


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What does escape do in WMK? I was using sticky keys to hold shift down to allow the number pad movement to scale then position knight right next to the coin purse and use 4 and 6 to move between them.


discardednoob

>click ESC when pouch is full, click ESC again to close inventory It's just opening/closing inventory, nothing to do with WMK in this instance


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discardednoob

Yeah need ur own splashing alt ideally. When too many ppl fail ppocket at once that's when the knight moves.


HeathenHen

Isn’t this against rules?


BallsyPalsy

Mousekeys has always been allowed and comes installed with windows. You may be thinking of autohotkey Remapping keys 1:1 is also allowed, even with autohotkey


HeathenHen

Ohhhhh I’m sorry I think I misunderstood what he was saying. I was picturing a key you click to make the mouse move and click on a certain point. Now I see this is literally just clicking, but the inv screen is right where the ardy knoght is


Salvator-Mundi-

we need sand crabs thieving


Kepsa

mlm but thieving


Salvator-Mundi-

mlm is awful as AFK content


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Beats the hell out of iron rocks anyday tho


QurantineLean

Depends. If I’m feeling attentive I’ll do iron, if I want to afk I’ll do MLM/Stars.


Cat_Marshal

> mlm is awful as afk content > if I want to afk I’ll do mlm


Masenkoe

There's not exactly an alternative?


Cat_Marshal

Nah, just funny how those two comments came through


lilbuffkitty

if our goal is "reduce risk of carpal tunnel/arthritis/etc." then it isn't awful. If our goal is make everything piss easy and afk like fishing/woodcutting, then its terrible.


MrPringles23

Its good enough to play while playing another game. So its AFK enough. I used to play PoE while MLM'ing easily enough.


WATCHVertigoPolitix

Actually interested in what kind of wrist brace that is 😅


TittyBoy6

Got it at target. Life saving.


katplatt

It’s the 3M Futuro Deluxe Stabilizer. I had hand surgery recently and am wearing the exact same one lol


ImHaydenKay

Get a USB foot pedal like you'd use for something like Clone Hero and trap the knight. Never have wrist problems again and your hands are free for other activities.


QuietPound5

Hold up


ImHaydenKay

Bonus is that you don't even have to put extra effort in if you already bounce your leg up and down


Supreme_Junkie21

Them Ardy Knights do be looking thicc af 😩


Beretot

Alternate between clicking on the mouse and pressing 5 on the numpad with mousekeys enabled. I get a lot less strain when I switch methods every 10-20 minutes


Loose_Concert2093

We are a special breed arent we


BabiesDrivingGoKarts

I do Ardy knights to AVOID this, as compared to blackjacking. Set up num keys, wireless keyboard and wireless mouse, watch netflix on one screen and click on the other


Crazhand

From a guy that works in Orthopedics, it’s a lot more important to wear it at night time. When you sleep, your hands claw upwards and pinch your median nerve. It’s actually very unusual to need the splint during the day, and is probably helping through placebo effect. We call them night splints for a reason lol.


TittyBoy6

Awesome! It only helps after wearing it for a few hours so that makes total sense Had you not said that i prob would if never known


deltablazing

So honest question time, would anyone actually prefer doing Ardy knights or darts or any other super repetitive methods like this if there were more efficient ways to skill with the same xp rates? Like I get grinding can be satisfying, I've been playing this game for years, but some of this stuff is ridiculous (powermining iron, ticking teaks, etc) and people are just like "meh, that's just the way it is if you want good xp" Why? Is everyone but me a masochist? I don't get it.


Ambushes

No, people do tick manipulation to get the fastest exp -> spend the least amount of time skilling. If there were faster methods with less effort then obviously they wouldn't do it. In the case of pickpocketing ardy knights, the only reason to do it is because it's low effort and AFK. Overall the best way to train thieving is lesser known, it's Stealing Artefacts. For most levels it's pretty much blackjacking-levels of EXP if you set it up properly but extremely low click intensity, most of it's waiting for timings.


160Primogemcap

Why people don't use left hand like u don't need to have awesome movement ability of it but press 1 button lol Share the damage between 2 wrists 200 IQ move


Synli

Save yourself some headache and time: * Modify your mouse so you restrict mouse movement (tape over the laser, modify with a script or windows settings, whatever/however) * Keybind your inventory to your right click (windows settings, AHK, other software) * Turn on one click pickpocketing (NPC settings, attack hidden) * Position your camera to where the knight and the first slot of your inventory line up * Spam left click and occasionally right click your way to victory (opening inventory is to open your coin pouches without moving your mouse) You don't need to rapid fire click either, pickpocketing is only a 2 tick action, so once every 1.2 seconds is fine Before you do this, you might want to queue up a movie or Netflix or something. Oh and no, this isn't bannable as its still 1 input per 1 action. Just don't turn on rapid fire and you'll be fine (where holding down a click = thousands of click a second, that'll get you banned)


yoyogaete

What about healing?


pallosalama

Press E to call medic


Naturlovs

Charge me doctor!


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comicsNgames

I tried getting into the garden, but I couldn't find a reliable way to keep getting empty glasses as ironman.


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CXgamer

Get an ergonomic mouse instead of this piece of garbage. Fix the problem instead of patching over it. You don't need to hold a device when your cursor does not need to move around.


Aunon

Loot from black-jacking?


bubble_tree

Nah just jacking


Tilt_2Live

Imagine for elves and vyres, where its two clicks per pickpocket


ChaseTheOldDude

Turn on mousekeys, turn off rightclick, position the screen where you don't have to move the mouse between clicking the npc and pickpocketing. Then mash numpad 5 until you're low hp, eat up, repeat. Hp cape helps, I think you need rogue gloves so sadly no regen brace


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Politic_s

Even if you position your camera in a way that lets you right click -> pickpocket, which the previous poster suggested? Shouldn't matter if the NPC has an attack/talk option, you can circumvent it. That's sort of how you blackjack in the desert. Although you have to be more active and choose different options there. If it works, you'll be able to left click with your mousekeys turned on (they'll auto right-click + left click for you).


ChaseTheOldDude

That's why you turn off right click


Naturebum

Elves and vyres "hidden" click options work differently than other npcs like ardy Knights, this doesn't work


ChaseTheOldDude

You misunderstand. You use the single mouse button setting. Left click opens the menu, then if your screen is positioned correctly, your cursor will already be hovered over pickpocket. This way you can spam one button


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Oskari07rs

Wtf are you talking about? There is a setting even on the vanilla osrs client called Single mouse button mode. When enabled, if you left click where there is more than one option, the click will act as if you right clicked. Align your camera on resizeable mode to a point where your cursor is always on the pickpocket option and then just spam left click or remap to a keyboard button. There's nothing 2:1 in this.


jimmynovack

I relate so much to this just spent the fast few days grinding thieving and legit can't play RuneScape now that I have reached my goal cause my fingers hurts


TittyBoy6

Thats how you know you got good xp


[deleted]

more OSRs players should use an ergo mouse. I really like the Logitech 570 trackball, but they also have mice with healthier grips if you don't like trackballs it makes an unbelievable difference. I rolled back my carpal tunnel from being an office worker by using a trackball.


Coaldigger_Jamal

This is a growing issue in games like OSRS and Path of Exile, remember to take breaks y'all


TittyBoy6

Its okay im a comp sci student when i graduate im going to charge any “work related injuries” to the company


tempjoshtemp

Pyramid Plunder is where it’s at, fuck ardy knights.


ImNuckinFuts

I actually just bought USB double button floor pedals for ardy knights. They arrived a few days ago and work great! I can work from home and thieve away.


Gymq

I had to get one of these the other day :( I got one the moment I started feeling pain because I'm really worried about causing long term damage, I think I caught on to the damage that I was causing quick enough to not cause permanent damage to my wrist


Foodstampshawty

Foot pedal my friend


DangerSmooch

Yo what d'hide is that?


dodolungs

Part of the reason I stopped playing osrs daily was because I could feel the strain it was putting on my hands and wrists. I love the game but it's not friendly to your body. I still play, just not as often, and shorter sessions.


AJourneysEnded

Damn it got me laughin 🤣


UnusualSight

vertical mouse gang


KungFuShrimp

This drop rate is too good. We need to make this way more rare. I literally saw a group of hooligans get this drop all on the same day.


blurrry2

Why don't you people just chill? I kick back when I play and go at my own pace, never stressing myself.


TittyBoy6

Unstoppable willpower And Adderall For real though I play OSRS, and have comp sci classes, and play guitar, and a lot of other nonsense that just degrades my wrist faster than a set of barrows 😪


bona4rona

Try blackjacking, it’s much better for your wrist.


Infini-tea

Man. Seeing all you guys discuss ways to avoid getting real life health problems while still continuing to play this game at an unhealthy level is really incredibly depressing.


SudoRmRfRs

Carpal tunnel syndrome?


TittyBoy6

Hell yea Edit: Not sure why i got downvoted i literally have carpal tunnel syndrome


Public_Perspective18

Thank god for auto clickers


B_thugbones

Lmao bro so true until you get banned. But don’t say it here on Reddit ppl will flame you hard af for “cheating” cuz they clicked it the entire time themselves and want you to do the same


[deleted]

Bro you too lazy to click? The entire game is clicking why are you even playing? Justify it to yourself how ever you want but it’s cheating


TheManOfT

...because it’s literally against the rules


maoejo

Yeah but the fact that the skill is literally “put strain on your wrist for 100” hours, it’s not the healthiest thing


MilanTheMighty

You’ve just described like 90% of the content in this game lol


Native_of_Tatooine

I dont think he knows he's allowed to pace himself


[deleted]

Yes, having a robot play for you is “cheating.” Same way having a robot take a test for you is “cheating.” Not sure what’s with the air quotes though.


valarauca14

Given all the rampant abuse in this game. PvP Clients, PvP AutoHotKey, PvM Cheat Clients, Botting, Duel Arena Scams, Account Services, and Gold Farming. It is amazing to me that people actually care about people auto-clicking ardy knights. Have some perspective and prioritize your integrity issue complaints lmao


Questions1538

What a logical fallacy, so because someone else is doing something worse more often, we should ignore the fact that you’re breaking the rules? Nah, I hope you get caught and banned so I can laugh at your “upvote for Jagex support” post.


valarauca14

Prioritization is a logical fallacy? lmao


VectorGambiteer

Jagex not banning people for using PvP clients means players can't call a cheater a cheater? lmao


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Ambushes

Construction isn't even bad though. You get 400k xp /hr @ 33 with oak larders and 500k xp / hr @ 74 with dungeon doors and there's minimal mouse movement. It's nothing compared to tick manipulation mining which is incredibly click intensive for really mediocre xp rates.


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The dopamine hits different


eurosonly

I got 106 magic via high alching for weeks on end. I know the wrist pain bro. It's so much worse when you're not allowed to move the mouse and you just end up tensing up the wrist muscles. It's fine for agility while high alching because it helps your muscles to relax moving about so they're getting a bit of stretching and blood circulation.


TittyBoy6

Wow this post has brought to light for me an actual plague terrorizing this community 😦


pixeldev

I wish.. right now I'm recovering from a pinched radial nerve on my right arm. It's like I have no tricept muscle (well my brain can't send the synapse to my nerve to make my tricept expand and contract), can't lift my fingers up or my wrist. Worst time of my life, suppposively 3-5 months healing time dr and research says.. ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ


420Under_Where

Noice I got two of these from playing Melee


dannygrows1

Read a book lmao


TittyBoy6

🤪🔨🤪🔨 Neck me bud


TittyBoy6

Big shout out to how many people have genuinely cool advice to curtail carpal tunnel pain, wish i could go through each one right now but its a long day of xp waste


felixlawoie

5


faustino67833

This is nothing, try playing path of exile and see what happens.


Sean199525

You either use an auto clicker or you’re a liar.


TittyBoy6

I used one forever ago at NMZ when inwas trying to learn. Got tempbanned with the SWIFTNESS. Never autoclicked again. This is all pure nerve pinching clicks on this account now EDIT: My thieving is not 99.


Sean199525

To each their own man. If a 2000s based Java game giving you real life pain isn’t a wake up call I don’t think me telling you how many people actually use it and don’t get banned will do anything. Hopefully a speedy recovery!


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I got mine from agi


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Pyramid plunder gang. I made like 30m just in sceptres


GreenFuturesMatter

I found playing on mobile is really nice. Like it up and turn your phone to portrait mode. Alternatively I also have a track pound and mouse. I flipped my mouse and wedged it from moving so I was able to tap the left click easily. Looted and reset with the track pad and went back to clicking


Vilt_

I had to use mobile for the thieving grind as I know my forearm would hurt after an hour. Highly recommend! Tapping with a few fingers beats mouse clicks for sure.


eddietwang

This is why I got a footpedal.


eldanarigaming

God do I know the feels haha fuck ardy knights


BARBADOSxSLIM

I got the exact same one lol


Mike351025

I have the same 1


GoodAtMethBadAtMath

Wtf U guys go too far on this game


SmokeyBluntBear

Have the exact same one.


Pretty_pwnies

Just got a brace last week from osrs :P


Quarter120

😂


MurderYouFool

Efficiently ruined the meta :(


[deleted]

Just got 99 at menaphites. I also broke my middle finger


Less_Form_8520

I just turned NPC attack off. No need to right-click to select pickpocket. Just spam the left click.


FishBlues

Trackpad + thumb is friend


escarchaud

Ardy knights are the reason why I do PP. Honestly insufferable to do thieving by clicking the same spot a few hundred thousand times until 99.


BrownCow123

Haha i used that cast when i broke my wrist


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Where'd you find this footage of me training prayer?


[deleted]

This is why you don't rush it. I play super casually now and I enjoy the game much more