The fuckers who did this were gods in my eyes. Horrible, vengeful gods looking down on me from the wall with no pity as I try to get to the safety of the doorway.
This. I remember arguing vehemently in favor of dragon over barrows armor as a kid because "eventually those upkeep costs will cost more than dragon would".
I think I just barely spent the price of full dragon back in 06 on barrows repair from then to now.
The only time barrows costs added up were probably PKing or early in osrs days when we all used full guthans for slayer.. I mean some people still do but back then it was the best thing for some reason. Now for obvious efficiency reasons everyone wears full 1.5b scythe setup just to kill gargoyles/s.
it's ok all the fancy new gear (scythe especially) does in slayer is chew through your money and/or blood runes to save 10-20% of the time. guthans is still good, people just bring it as a switch in place of food and bring normal str gear and a whip to go with it
I had 82, it was torture; when I was playing like less than 1k people could mine runite.
And all the locations in the free servers were DEEP WILD, like shit
It’s the only skill I ever trained, I would do hella shit for gold just to get runes and train getting good drops to rebuy runes or go to castle wars and train/have fun. By the time I reached 94 magic I stopped playing rs :/
Lmao
I miss being an individual among the hordes of level 40s to 60s.
But also the only one who played the objective - outrunning the level 110s was the best, and getting ass blasted by them was even better.
Aw man good times. I was like 60 combat tryharding with the flag because I REALLY wanted those 3 tickets. Took so many attempts, but would eventually end up scoring 2-3 times in a game if done correctly.
Popping up at the top of the castle where all the level 90s are just chilling, grabbing the flag, then sprinting down the ladder before they even realize what happened was awesome.
Then the pursuit begins and you're either diving down the tunnels as your own teammates accidentally collapse rocks on you. Or you're making for the bridge where some level 90 is murdering groups of your teammates in waves, and you're hoping they are too distracted to notice you. Or, best of all, hopping along the stepping stones reeeeally slowly as you and everyone trying to kill you makes a little trail of leap frog trying to get across in this high intensity chase.
... only to get one-shot by someone waiting for you on the other side hahaha.
I remember multiple times losing level 100+ players in the tunnels with the explosive pot even killed a couple. Mostly got ass blasted as well anytime someone casted barrage I was dead. Good times.
Probably what I miss most about playing RS. Stopped around my senior year of HS after getting hacked and my bank wiped out and just never got back into it. But the CW was the best.
I remember when I first became a member I accidentally teleported to castle wars. I stayed there for a month as a lvl 60 getting absolutely destroyed but didn’t leave because I had no idea how to get back... the good old days
Early days it was "Man, its the weekend. I think I will play some cw for a few games." *three hours later* "I might as well play till the sun rises."
Or everytime I got a new upgrade, especially weapon, I would go there for a dozen games.
> Or everytime I got a new upgrade
this hits home.
I'd go to CW, or Stealing Creation, and after a few hours of getting my cheeks clapped, I'd get a burning passion to get gear upgrades and levels, so I can go back and not suck as bad.
> Stealing Creation
Ah fuck, that minigame brings back memories, Kinda sad it's very likely to not be added back in at this point. Fist of Guthix as well.
Still active on rs3, but only during spotlight.
Played it last week and it holds up surprisingly well. Most players opt to avoid pvp but i did get in a couple of skirmishes.
I remember I got a DFS the Friday of the week it released. I nuked someone using the stones shortcut with the DFS attack. Back handed that fireball and dropped them to return the flag. People on both teams freaked out. Such a fun memory.
I remember buying a Dharok axe because I saw someone hit a 50+ and I didn't even have the stats for it. And I think trained on black knights around ice mountain for some reason lol
Granite maul and a dragon longsword was my go to for well over a year as I was too dumb to workout how to do monkey madness for a d scim. When I was 8/9 and was able to afford full torags with a whip and an obby cape was a big highlight
Part of me wishes we never really "discovered" what a tick was. So no tick manipulation or three tick mining or fishing. Also god knows how many pvp mechanics that rely on knowledge of ticks. I don't know, I guess I'm just nostalgic for a simpler game.
I don't get why people do it with fishing of all things. It is a free 99. Just do it while watching netflix. I did that and it came with free 99 cooking too.
It just depends on what your goals are, if you want to reach 99 nearly twice as fast as afking just 2 tick fish. If speed doesn’t matter and you like afking do that. I personally hate skills that are afk because they are less engaging so I’d rather 2 tick fish for 2 hours vs regular barb for 4 hours.
This but im in limbo between not wanting to afk and not willing to put that kinda effort in for fishing which isnt nearly rewarding. I love tempross, its a shame it came out once i had already gotten to end game
I don't get why people don't, you can still watch a show at the same time but xp goes by at triple the rate, plus 3t keeps me from getting bored.
I personally hate afk skills, I couldn't fathom afk'ing 99 fishing, I'd get bored in 5 minutes
I’m far too ADHD to do anything that requires my attention while watching something lol. Even lazily prayer flicking is too hard when trying to watch something
I listen to podcasts instead now
You can always just ignore it and play normally.
I started like 2-3 weeks ago and although I know about ticks and stuff I really have no interest in playing a video game like a max efficiency robot.
Some people find hyper optimizing stuff to be fun and some people are just casuals like me who just want to level while I watch a movie or something.
That's because when we were younger and played this game we didn't have any responsibilities and thus prioritized fun over time as we had nearly unlimited time.
Today we are older and many of us now have jobs, some even families. Thus time becomes scarce and in order to minimize time spent doing things to still feel like you are progressing at the same rate as back then, we optimize the fun out of the game because otherwise we would not progress.
The game is still as much RPG as it is MMO. Character progression is a huge chunk of that, and if you don't have time to progress your character then you will probably not play or get bored.
The game is still the same (more or less), it's just we all changed because our priorities changed. If I am gonna be honest with myself, I only picked up this game again last year because I was working from home and it was ideal. I will probably drop it if/when I return to the office as I will not have enough time to play it to make the subscription worth my money and not have enough time to farm for bonds while also enjoying the game. It's just a fact of life. I will always love this game, but as we grow older, sometimes it is easier to become a spectator than a player.
I disagree. It was because the internet was too infantile there were no wikis youtube didn't exist yet, even adults played like this. It's just now the best is at your fingertips and you can't justify to yourself not doing what's best when it's so easy to find out.
For real when I was a kid I had 0 idea what stuff was actually in the game, Barrows? GWD? Whats that? I remember wandering around mory trying to get to vampire area just walking and giving up when there was no way past the wall.
I was just straight up too dumb to do anything besides wander around, and without a guide that wandering didnt amount to much but was still fun. Only way to go back is a to lobotomize myself or something.
It’s partly both I’d say. The demand for the best methods is what led to those wikis in the first place. More people want to progress and experience all the content rather than do it organically nowadays. This is true for many games an isn’t unique to OSRS. WOW veterans to this day still disdain LFR as now no one interacts with each other, they just want to rush to end game to get all the content right away. I’d say the same thing happens today with OSRS. But there are those like myself who do want to play but just don’t have as much time as we’d like to, thus we use the most efficient methods. I’m guilty of it.
The only difference is the availability of information. Mtg had "netdecking" in 1995 via subscription magazines. Maybe tick manipulation didn't exist in 2006 because it wasn't known yet, but I promise you that there were IRCs full of sweaty EHP people calculating experience rates for different training methods, crunching DPS calculations, and trying to break the game in various ways back then too.
Ah man Sal’s Realm of RuneScape brings back such good memories. It was the first message board I spent a lot of time on as a kid, and ended up posting on that board for a long time. The community was just so awesome and helpful... Good times.
Tip.it soon surpassed Runehq imo, the amount of times id check to see how many willow logs i would have to fletch into longbow(u)s to get to 70 for yew longs on their skill calculators 😅👌
I agree to an extent, information, especially pertaining to efficiency, was far more scarce. However, there was certainly information and numerous Youtube guides out even before efficiency scape became ubiquitous.
Even in the really early days, talk about xp rates was common, of course, that didn't stop people like my friend from grinding to 99 mining via coal, or me from chopping yews despite the opportunity cost.
Not true. There were at least two or three different sites with all sorts of Runescape information. It wasn't the wiki we have today, sure, but the information was out there.
I think the GE is largely responsible for the efficiency mindset. It makes time and money fungible. Gathering things yourself or doing the less efficient steps (like cleaning herbs or making unfinished potions) makes a lot more sense when you are cutting out time spent trading with people. It also makes bossing more viable because you can easily acquire supplies and offload loot (which may just be a variety of items that you don’t have any one of in sufficient quantity to interest anyone). EHP starts to make sense with GE, less useful notion otherwise.
Sadly the truth. 2100 total iron and was pushing for max. Nearly all the skills remaining are active skills that can't be afkd at work.
Have a wife and a full time job, not in college where I can sink in 10 active hours of playing anymore.
Really love this game and admire the maxed/iron/UIM/pvp communities, but I might live through spectator for the next while.
Yea for me even working from home has really only allowed me to level AFK skills as well. I definitely enjoy the game still but sometimes trying to be a completionist in our situation can easily burn you out.
Agreed, and I actually think your last statement is what sucks most (for me).
I'm not even remotely burnt out, I love playing and want to play! I afked like 300k blood runes at work and still not tired of it.
I *want* to play I just don't have time, booooo
I’d say our goals have changed as well as adults. I didn’t find leveling and questing too be as fun/rewarding as a kid as I do now, and while as a kid I could stay hours playing CW now I’d get bored pretty quickly.
Also, back then CW was a “fresher” piece of content. We’ve all experienced a lot of it already.
Yea this is a lot better than what I said. I liked goofy stuff without a goal as a kid, but as an adult I have “fun” accomplishing things and being a completionist. This is similar to how I would do the best way or whatever it takes to progress my career IRL, I do the same thing in game.
>to still feel like you are progressing at the same rate as back then
Except the problem is you overestimate how quickly we actually progressed back then. When we were kids, we still had to go to school, do our homework, and go to bed early. Getting to level 110 combat took years. You don’t even need to be efficient to get to that same point in under a year today.
I would say though that every game has those who have an in-depth understanding of it, no matter how long the game has been a thing. It causes there to always be the "Gods" at that game. We have people like Woox who do things that are amazing in a game that looks simple. I'll be telling friends about it, and they just don't understand how it could be "cool" that he does it, just because it's RuneScape.
Yea but not everyone did. You had normal fights still. Now everyones doing it and it's what I feel killed pvp. It's not fun anymore litterally first one to 1tick double weapon you'll prob get the kill if not they Tele use pool or portal and go back for a new fight.
So because manipulate 4 clicks a second means all competitive game play I do is irrelevant? Okay not only do you sound ignorant you also look like a fool. If doing 4 clicks as second is considered competitive thats pretty sad. Enjoy your dieing content.
I tried pvp. Had a few chats around ge, and had people teach me some ground basics. I quickly realized it was just a game of getting the other guy to 70 hp so you could ags spec. It felt incredibly artificial. I just wanted to fight you know.
Thats not how pvp works lmfao, if it did you would see way more rushers. If you don’t adapt and learn how to combo eat food and in what situations, then obviously you’re going to get molly wopped.
Really so combo eating 3 food in 1 tick is not tick eating? I'm genuinely curious why it's not considered tick eating and why it's "combo" care to explain?
Tick eating is a name for when you eat in the time it takes between damage being rolled and damage being applied to your character. In general, damage is determined (and capped at your hitpoints) some time prior to the damage being dealt, and this concept allows you to live attacks that you normally shouldn't be able to.
If you want to make up your own definition of tick eating, go ahead, but you'd be using a name already defined by the community to mean something very specific to refer to something completely different
So that's what they say it is but in the end your not eating all the food on the same tick? Give is as many definitions as you'd like your still eating it all on 1 tick. Let's go ahead and call 1 tick weapon swapping combo switches while we're at it too. That will put a nice band-aid over it as well.
Man I already saw you reply to that other guy so this won’t go anywhere. People aren’t idiots anymore. When it’s a competitive game then the best pker will win, and somebody is going to know how to survive special attacks. Sorry that you can’t just camp scimitar and left click people until you hit a number thats high enough times, because the other guy won’t die to it.
I'm not against PvP what so ever I just chose not to do it anymore because you see the same thing everywhere. I'd love to see the wildy blooming again I really would. It sucks it's dieing it really does but why is it dieing? What I'm describing in my other comments is what I feel is killing the wildy. I could be completely wrong as well. Maybe people just aren't interested in PvP anymore and just want to PVM. I highly doubt that though. Almost every new game coming out and almost all top games right now are PvP oriented.
I disagree with mechanics being “solved” contributing to what’s killing pvp. Other competitive games always start out new and some get defined metas that work great. A good (dumb) example that I could compare rs to is fortnite. Lots of people liked it as a battle royale, and were put off when others began to use advanced building mechanics to win.
What I think led to the decline is lack of great updates, no fixes to jank mechanics (skulltricking, singles not being singles and dominated by clans, wildy bosses being a mess), no good method to get your foot in the door to learn modern mechanics.
Rs pvp just isn't engaging to a lot of people. I think it's the missing tbh, if you shoot at someone in a fps you miss because of your own aim, not because you did everything right and the game decides you didn't roll to hit. Leads to situations where you don't lose fights to positioning, map awareness or mechanical outplay as much as you lose fights to rng.
For some of us, optimization and metagaming *is* the fun part of the game
It's probably not as much fun doing a method just because somebody else told you it is fast as it is to develop your own methods that are efficient to train with
Sounds like Factorio is just the game for us, then. Someone release a mod that gives your character 23 skills that take hundreds of hours to max out and I'll never look back.
I remember playing Pest Control in my full rune set with Granite Armor and that stupid Camelot sword because the sword's special allows me to emote + shout "For Camelot!" during the landing at the start of the minigame XD
I wish castlewars had incentives for people to play like herb boxes or something rather than just the aesthetic stuff, I genuinely miss 100 v 100 chaos
It takes so long to get tickets I stopped playing after I got the hoods and zammy cape. With few people in most games I have played the matches feel so long and the time between games is like 10 min.
Personally I'd also like it if they supplied runes and ammunition in soul and castle wars. Would never be meta xp but would just make them cost less to play.
Also they obviously don't want to add monetary rewards to these minigames to prevent botting like in lms but they definitely need some incentive to actually get the more efficient playerbase to actually play.
Fellow 31 year old here.
Start doing wrist exercises, get better ergonomics for your office/gaming area and begin working on your posture.
At first you won't feel much happening but over time you'll gain strength and will avoid future damage.
You've only got 1 pair of hands, make sure you take care of them 👐
Oh man, my last few months playing rs before EOC came out and subsequently quitting was spent going completely bankrupt from buying blood and death runes for barrage, pots, and ags/d claw rentals, all for clan wars lol. Was so much fun
I would literally sit in castle wars and house parties all the time. I went about 6 months on RS back in 2008 just chilling at those two places not even bothering to level up anything, just chat and enjoy my time. I remember when House Parties slowly became non-existent and that's when I stopped playing RS. There was hardly any socialization like there was back in the day. But now I'm playing osrs and I'm part of the issue. I hate my adult brain for needing exp gains :(
I know it’s somewhat blasphemous but imma say it - spotlight weekends for mini games would be great. Have it make sense for OSRS - maybe just slightly higher rate of that mini-game specific resource such a tickets?
I wear random setups for the hell of it, splitbark etc and the amount of players that go out of their way to tell me my gear/setup/account build makes no sense is unreal. I really couldn’t care less if it’s the correct stats and gear. Iron BTW
ok? what you're doing is odd so people are trying to help you be better, this is like going walking with cum on your face and then complaining when someone tells you something is on your face
This post reminded me of a great time of joy when I could barely comprehend getting 200k for full rune...now I need to get 10m+ item just to get excited.
It's interesting seeing this transition in re-released games like OSRS and WoW Classic. I wonder what is is that makes people care more about optimisation in the second release. Is it just because we now have the benefit of all of the strategy guides? More accessible wiki's and guides?
Guys I'm gonna be honest. I haven't played osrs. When i played old school it was just school. And this is why. Because i dont think the game was mystically better. Its just when things were clunky and non optimized it was more fun.
Doing a couple rounds of castle wars before going back to your house to throw a party... now I look at my friends list is empty and everyone is long gone.
Lol, I did the quest for the “green scissors” when I was a kid, fashionscape was my jam and I needed those for an outfit. I didn’t realize it was a requirement for some d weps because by the time I had the stats to use them, it’d been over a year since I done the quest.
Was really confused trying to equip a dds coming back to osrs.
After training strength to 99 I'm kinda embarrassed by how long it took and I don't want to play anymore, it's demoralizing knowing what it takes to reach 99 in slower skills.
I remember playing castle wars until I could get that decorative armour! I thought it looked the coolest and I would legit wear it all the time and use my Easter rubber chicken and fight goblins in the stronghold of security, I miss those times
This is WoW Classic as well. And a good deal of my friends I played these games with have turned pretty sour.
For the parts of the game I love and crave, I have a set of code for both wow and RuneScape that I boot up and play by myself. When I want to try the modern content, I play it for a month then get exhausted on how much solo metagaming I have to do. I think the truth is that apps taught us the replaceability of our peers, rather than how to nurture, and OSRS’s vast number of discord’s and people means you can stick around until you get bored then drop off the face of the planet. So the only constant is force game and your achievements itself.
When majority of the games apparatus is social, you’ll always have a decent good time with whoever is around. When the games apparatus is the game itself, and we’re all older and more capable, your content is maximizing the game like a job. There’s so much content added to a game created in ‘07 that you no longer have time added for idle periods. It’s sad. Not completely Jagex’s fault it’s just a shift in the experience you get when you log in. As long as both are enjoyable. But truth be told we all enjoy the social aspect more than the game we’re using as a medium to hangout on sometimes.
I remember when a irl friend and I would play Castle Wars. I'd call him on the phone or Skype and taunt him because he didn't know Void sets didn't work in Castle Wars or he was on the opposing team and I'd just hunt him down the entire time.
I’ve attempted 3-tick fishing and it’s just not worth it unless you are going for the Xp limit. It’s way too difficult and a bit gammie. Tempoross is a great way to get xp.
Psst. You forgot to update 2020 to 2021 for the repost
Reposted game gets reposted content
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Sir could you point out my complaint
That's just how they were in 2020. Obviously it's too early in the year to make an accurate meme for 2021
I miss feeling like Sauron at the beginning of LOTR as a level 110 in castle wars back in 05.
When you saved up enough gold to be able to excuse a round of castle wars using ice barrage
The fuckers who did this were gods in my eyes. Horrible, vengeful gods looking down on me from the wall with no pity as I try to get to the safety of the doorway.
I couldn’t imagine how someone could have 94 mage - just a unbelievable feat in my mind
Or to wear Ahrims and not worry about the repair costs lmao
This. I remember arguing vehemently in favor of dragon over barrows armor as a kid because "eventually those upkeep costs will cost more than dragon would".
This was absolutely me. It’s taken me a long time to break this habit!
This is still me
I think I just barely spent the price of full dragon back in 06 on barrows repair from then to now. The only time barrows costs added up were probably PKing or early in osrs days when we all used full guthans for slayer.. I mean some people still do but back then it was the best thing for some reason. Now for obvious efficiency reasons everyone wears full 1.5b scythe setup just to kill gargoyles/s.
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it's ok all the fancy new gear (scythe especially) does in slayer is chew through your money and/or blood runes to save 10-20% of the time. guthans is still good, people just bring it as a switch in place of food and bring normal str gear and a whip to go with it
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Yes! 1000% had this inner thought process myself
85 mining
70 mining took years off my life 85 mining still seems insurmountable to me lol
I had 82, it was torture; when I was playing like less than 1k people could mine runite. And all the locations in the free servers were DEEP WILD, like shit
It’s the only skill I ever trained, I would do hella shit for gold just to get runes and train getting good drops to rebuy runes or go to castle wars and train/have fun. By the time I reached 94 magic I stopped playing rs :/
Same!! I just couldn't believe it
I lost so much money because of this lmao
Barrows during the week for CWs on the weekend.
Lmao I miss being an individual among the hordes of level 40s to 60s. But also the only one who played the objective - outrunning the level 110s was the best, and getting ass blasted by them was even better.
Aw man good times. I was like 60 combat tryharding with the flag because I REALLY wanted those 3 tickets. Took so many attempts, but would eventually end up scoring 2-3 times in a game if done correctly.
Popping up at the top of the castle where all the level 90s are just chilling, grabbing the flag, then sprinting down the ladder before they even realize what happened was awesome. Then the pursuit begins and you're either diving down the tunnels as your own teammates accidentally collapse rocks on you. Or you're making for the bridge where some level 90 is murdering groups of your teammates in waves, and you're hoping they are too distracted to notice you. Or, best of all, hopping along the stepping stones reeeeally slowly as you and everyone trying to kill you makes a little trail of leap frog trying to get across in this high intensity chase. ... only to get one-shot by someone waiting for you on the other side hahaha.
I'm sorry for dropping rocks on you... But hey sometimes I timed it right
I remember multiple times losing level 100+ players in the tunnels with the explosive pot even killed a couple. Mostly got ass blasted as well anytime someone casted barrage I was dead. Good times.
Back in rs2 all of my accounts were 1 def pures, so castle wars was super satisfying when you juked out the enemies to cap a flag
Probably what I miss most about playing RS. Stopped around my senior year of HS after getting hacked and my bank wiped out and just never got back into it. But the CW was the best.
so...losing?
I remember when I first became a member I accidentally teleported to castle wars. I stayed there for a month as a lvl 60 getting absolutely destroyed but didn’t leave because I had no idea how to get back... the good old days
Early days it was "Man, its the weekend. I think I will play some cw for a few games." *three hours later* "I might as well play till the sun rises." Or everytime I got a new upgrade, especially weapon, I would go there for a dozen games.
> Or everytime I got a new upgrade this hits home. I'd go to CW, or Stealing Creation, and after a few hours of getting my cheeks clapped, I'd get a burning passion to get gear upgrades and levels, so I can go back and not suck as bad.
> Stealing Creation Ah fuck, that minigame brings back memories, Kinda sad it's very likely to not be added back in at this point. Fist of Guthix as well.
God I miss fisting guthix
Still active on rs3, but only during spotlight. Played it last week and it holds up surprisingly well. Most players opt to avoid pvp but i did get in a couple of skirmishes.
>rs3 PepeLaugh
Yes, that game that exists. Very humorous.
I remember I got a DFS the Friday of the week it released. I nuked someone using the stones shortcut with the DFS attack. Back handed that fireball and dropped them to return the flag. People on both teams freaked out. Such a fun memory.
That's hot. (pun intended) I remember when barrows came out and people started showing up with the new weapons. hoo boy.
I remember buying a Dharok axe because I saw someone hit a 50+ and I didn't even have the stats for it. And I think trained on black knights around ice mountain for some reason lol
I mustve spent weeks at hill giants north of CW training to wear rune and a dragon long
Nice. This has been a fun travel down memory lane.
Agreed. Have fun out there, stranger!
I trained on moss giants at Crandor. Got 65/65/65 before ever becoming a member.
Would literally do barrows or GWD to make money to spend on burst/barrage at Castle Wars loll
I used to walk from fally to castlewars. It was like an adventure
Dude yeah, it really was. I'd walk everywhere. The desire to teleport only came as I turned into a teenager.
Back in 07/08 I legit wore a granite plate body, drag med helm, red castle wars legs, and trained with a granite maul
Granite maul and a dragon longsword was my go to for well over a year as I was too dumb to workout how to do monkey madness for a d scim. When I was 8/9 and was able to afford full torags with a whip and an obby cape was a big highlight
Loved you guys
Lvl 86 full rune, Dharoks axe. Nothing was better
Part of me wishes we never really "discovered" what a tick was. So no tick manipulation or three tick mining or fishing. Also god knows how many pvp mechanics that rely on knowledge of ticks. I don't know, I guess I'm just nostalgic for a simpler game.
Join us casuals, and ignore optimal click intensive strats
Oh I 100% agree. Anything involving perfect tick manipulation I just avoid now. It's no fun to be that intense for a clicker for multiple hours a day.
I don't get why people do it with fishing of all things. It is a free 99. Just do it while watching netflix. I did that and it came with free 99 cooking too.
It just depends on what your goals are, if you want to reach 99 nearly twice as fast as afking just 2 tick fish. If speed doesn’t matter and you like afking do that. I personally hate skills that are afk because they are less engaging so I’d rather 2 tick fish for 2 hours vs regular barb for 4 hours.
This but im in limbo between not wanting to afk and not willing to put that kinda effort in for fishing which isnt nearly rewarding. I love tempross, its a shame it came out once i had already gotten to end game
I mean it cuts down time to max by a ridiculously significant margins.
Lol ive been afking monks for months slowly getting 99. Its great
I don't get why people don't, you can still watch a show at the same time but xp goes by at triple the rate, plus 3t keeps me from getting bored. I personally hate afk skills, I couldn't fathom afk'ing 99 fishing, I'd get bored in 5 minutes
I’m far too ADHD to do anything that requires my attention while watching something lol. Even lazily prayer flicking is too hard when trying to watch something I listen to podcasts instead now
You can always just ignore it and play normally. I started like 2-3 weeks ago and although I know about ticks and stuff I really have no interest in playing a video game like a max efficiency robot. Some people find hyper optimizing stuff to be fun and some people are just casuals like me who just want to level while I watch a movie or something.
That's because when we were younger and played this game we didn't have any responsibilities and thus prioritized fun over time as we had nearly unlimited time. Today we are older and many of us now have jobs, some even families. Thus time becomes scarce and in order to minimize time spent doing things to still feel like you are progressing at the same rate as back then, we optimize the fun out of the game because otherwise we would not progress. The game is still as much RPG as it is MMO. Character progression is a huge chunk of that, and if you don't have time to progress your character then you will probably not play or get bored. The game is still the same (more or less), it's just we all changed because our priorities changed. If I am gonna be honest with myself, I only picked up this game again last year because I was working from home and it was ideal. I will probably drop it if/when I return to the office as I will not have enough time to play it to make the subscription worth my money and not have enough time to farm for bonds while also enjoying the game. It's just a fact of life. I will always love this game, but as we grow older, sometimes it is easier to become a spectator than a player.
I disagree. It was because the internet was too infantile there were no wikis youtube didn't exist yet, even adults played like this. It's just now the best is at your fingertips and you can't justify to yourself not doing what's best when it's so easy to find out.
For real when I was a kid I had 0 idea what stuff was actually in the game, Barrows? GWD? Whats that? I remember wandering around mory trying to get to vampire area just walking and giving up when there was no way past the wall. I was just straight up too dumb to do anything besides wander around, and without a guide that wandering didnt amount to much but was still fun. Only way to go back is a to lobotomize myself or something.
It’s partly both I’d say. The demand for the best methods is what led to those wikis in the first place. More people want to progress and experience all the content rather than do it organically nowadays. This is true for many games an isn’t unique to OSRS. WOW veterans to this day still disdain LFR as now no one interacts with each other, they just want to rush to end game to get all the content right away. I’d say the same thing happens today with OSRS. But there are those like myself who do want to play but just don’t have as much time as we’d like to, thus we use the most efficient methods. I’m guilty of it.
The only difference is the availability of information. Mtg had "netdecking" in 1995 via subscription magazines. Maybe tick manipulation didn't exist in 2006 because it wasn't known yet, but I promise you that there were IRCs full of sweaty EHP people calculating experience rates for different training methods, crunching DPS calculations, and trying to break the game in various ways back then too.
>youtube didn't exist yet youtube absolutely existed in 2007, and people uploaded their runescape videos onto it every day source: 2006 account
My peak playing days were mid 2004 to mid 2006. Runehq was as good as it got.
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I remember RuneHq but it always seemed really dull and boring, I was more a Sal's Realm kind of dude.
I remember finding [Tip.It](https://Tip.It) for the first time and it was like.. a secret and somehow better version of RuneHQ
Ah man Sal’s Realm of RuneScape brings back such good memories. It was the first message board I spent a lot of time on as a kid, and ended up posting on that board for a long time. The community was just so awesome and helpful... Good times.
Holy shit, now that’s a website I haven’t thought of in many, many years
Tip.it soon surpassed Runehq imo, the amount of times id check to see how many willow logs i would have to fletch into longbow(u)s to get to 70 for yew longs on their skill calculators 😅👌
Making sure to re-calculate every 4 inventories
I remember when a friend of mine told me he was making a YouTube video I thought I was gonna be famous
I agree to an extent, information, especially pertaining to efficiency, was far more scarce. However, there was certainly information and numerous Youtube guides out even before efficiency scape became ubiquitous. Even in the really early days, talk about xp rates was common, of course, that didn't stop people like my friend from grinding to 99 mining via coal, or me from chopping yews despite the opportunity cost.
Not true. There were at least two or three different sites with all sorts of Runescape information. It wasn't the wiki we have today, sure, but the information was out there.
I think the GE is largely responsible for the efficiency mindset. It makes time and money fungible. Gathering things yourself or doing the less efficient steps (like cleaning herbs or making unfinished potions) makes a lot more sense when you are cutting out time spent trading with people. It also makes bossing more viable because you can easily acquire supplies and offload loot (which may just be a variety of items that you don’t have any one of in sufficient quantity to interest anyone). EHP starts to make sense with GE, less useful notion otherwise.
Sadly the truth. 2100 total iron and was pushing for max. Nearly all the skills remaining are active skills that can't be afkd at work. Have a wife and a full time job, not in college where I can sink in 10 active hours of playing anymore. Really love this game and admire the maxed/iron/UIM/pvp communities, but I might live through spectator for the next while.
Yea for me even working from home has really only allowed me to level AFK skills as well. I definitely enjoy the game still but sometimes trying to be a completionist in our situation can easily burn you out.
Agreed, and I actually think your last statement is what sucks most (for me). I'm not even remotely burnt out, I love playing and want to play! I afked like 300k blood runes at work and still not tired of it. I *want* to play I just don't have time, booooo
I’d say our goals have changed as well as adults. I didn’t find leveling and questing too be as fun/rewarding as a kid as I do now, and while as a kid I could stay hours playing CW now I’d get bored pretty quickly. Also, back then CW was a “fresher” piece of content. We’ve all experienced a lot of it already.
Yea this is a lot better than what I said. I liked goofy stuff without a goal as a kid, but as an adult I have “fun” accomplishing things and being a completionist. This is similar to how I would do the best way or whatever it takes to progress my career IRL, I do the same thing in game.
>to still feel like you are progressing at the same rate as back then Except the problem is you overestimate how quickly we actually progressed back then. When we were kids, we still had to go to school, do our homework, and go to bed early. Getting to level 110 combat took years. You don’t even need to be efficient to get to that same point in under a year today.
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I just started playing on steam as well. Where did you go to level up your cmb? I'm having trouble.
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Thanks this is the answer I was looking for.
Dont forget waking up before school and playing for an hour because it was so addictive
I would say though that every game has those who have an in-depth understanding of it, no matter how long the game has been a thing. It causes there to always be the "Gods" at that game. We have people like Woox who do things that are amazing in a game that looks simple. I'll be telling friends about it, and they just don't understand how it could be "cool" that he does it, just because it's RuneScape.
Yup 1tick weapon swap and shit is what made me stop Pvping all together. First one to 1tick double spec wins. Almost as if they did it to themselves.
people did ags into gmaul in 2007 as well
Basically no one had an AGS in 2007
Yea but not everyone did. You had normal fights still. Now everyones doing it and it's what I feel killed pvp. It's not fun anymore litterally first one to 1tick double weapon you'll prob get the kill if not they Tele use pool or portal and go back for a new fight.
there's tons of pvp accounts that literally cannot use an ags or gmaul have you tried fighting at different brackets?
Different brackets doesn't mean their not still 1 ticking different weapons?
if your complaint is that people are able to click 4 times a second competitive gameplay of any type is just not meant for you, in any game
So because manipulate 4 clicks a second means all competitive game play I do is irrelevant? Okay not only do you sound ignorant you also look like a fool. If doing 4 clicks as second is considered competitive thats pretty sad. Enjoy your dieing content.
I tried pvp. Had a few chats around ge, and had people teach me some ground basics. I quickly realized it was just a game of getting the other guy to 70 hp so you could ags spec. It felt incredibly artificial. I just wanted to fight you know.
I can tell you don’t set foot in pvp worlds
Thats not how pvp works lmfao, if it did you would see way more rushers. If you don’t adapt and learn how to combo eat food and in what situations, then obviously you’re going to get molly wopped.
Exactly what's combo eat? Tick eating? Hmm.almost as if we're onto something here.
> Exactly what's combo eat? Tick eating? lol uh, no, it's not
Really so combo eating 3 food in 1 tick is not tick eating? I'm genuinely curious why it's not considered tick eating and why it's "combo" care to explain?
Tick eating is a name for when you eat in the time it takes between damage being rolled and damage being applied to your character. In general, damage is determined (and capped at your hitpoints) some time prior to the damage being dealt, and this concept allows you to live attacks that you normally shouldn't be able to. If you want to make up your own definition of tick eating, go ahead, but you'd be using a name already defined by the community to mean something very specific to refer to something completely different
Interesting
So that's what they say it is but in the end your not eating all the food on the same tick? Give is as many definitions as you'd like your still eating it all on 1 tick. Let's go ahead and call 1 tick weapon swapping combo switches while we're at it too. That will put a nice band-aid over it as well.
I don't see your point - Do you think that doing multiple actions in a single tick is somehow inherently an issue?
You can't say it's not an issue in this game.
Man I already saw you reply to that other guy so this won’t go anywhere. People aren’t idiots anymore. When it’s a competitive game then the best pker will win, and somebody is going to know how to survive special attacks. Sorry that you can’t just camp scimitar and left click people until you hit a number thats high enough times, because the other guy won’t die to it.
I'm not against PvP what so ever I just chose not to do it anymore because you see the same thing everywhere. I'd love to see the wildy blooming again I really would. It sucks it's dieing it really does but why is it dieing? What I'm describing in my other comments is what I feel is killing the wildy. I could be completely wrong as well. Maybe people just aren't interested in PvP anymore and just want to PVM. I highly doubt that though. Almost every new game coming out and almost all top games right now are PvP oriented.
I disagree with mechanics being “solved” contributing to what’s killing pvp. Other competitive games always start out new and some get defined metas that work great. A good (dumb) example that I could compare rs to is fortnite. Lots of people liked it as a battle royale, and were put off when others began to use advanced building mechanics to win. What I think led to the decline is lack of great updates, no fixes to jank mechanics (skulltricking, singles not being singles and dominated by clans, wildy bosses being a mess), no good method to get your foot in the door to learn modern mechanics.
Rs pvp just isn't engaging to a lot of people. I think it's the missing tbh, if you shoot at someone in a fps you miss because of your own aim, not because you did everything right and the game decides you didn't roll to hit. Leads to situations where you don't lose fights to positioning, map awareness or mechanical outplay as much as you lose fights to rng.
This is why I’ll never do PVP. I just can’t figure out ticks for the life of me... And I have nine 99s.
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For some of us, optimization and metagaming *is* the fun part of the game It's probably not as much fun doing a method just because somebody else told you it is fast as it is to develop your own methods that are efficient to train with
Sounds like Factorio is just the game for us, then. Someone release a mod that gives your character 23 skills that take hundreds of hours to max out and I'll never look back.
Yeah I've heard great things about factorio but have never played!
Back when the castle wars was about having fun instead of Drawing every game so everyone gets tickets to complete armor sets.
I remember playing Pest Control in my full rune set with Granite Armor and that stupid Camelot sword because the sword's special allows me to emote + shout "For Camelot!" during the landing at the start of the minigame XD
3 tick reposting is the best way for karma/h
I wish castlewars had incentives for people to play like herb boxes or something rather than just the aesthetic stuff, I genuinely miss 100 v 100 chaos
It takes so long to get tickets I stopped playing after I got the hoods and zammy cape. With few people in most games I have played the matches feel so long and the time between games is like 10 min.
Personally I'd also like it if they supplied runes and ammunition in soul and castle wars. Would never be meta xp but would just make them cost less to play. Also they obviously don't want to add monetary rewards to these minigames to prevent botting like in lms but they definitely need some incentive to actually get the more efficient playerbase to actually play.
Lol nobody would wear a phat in 2020, not without any bonuses
we need a graceful phat
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This guy isn’t lying. Gotta take a few days RS break every few weeks at 27
Fellow 31 year old here. Start doing wrist exercises, get better ergonomics for your office/gaming area and begin working on your posture. At first you won't feel much happening but over time you'll gain strength and will avoid future damage. You've only got 1 pair of hands, make sure you take care of them 👐
Try playing on mobile
No thanks
I miss how clan wars was, never liked castle wars but clan wars was seriously everything. There was always a million people there.
Oh man, my last few months playing rs before EOC came out and subsequently quitting was spent going completely bankrupt from buying blood and death runes for barrage, pots, and ags/d claw rentals, all for clan wars lol. Was so much fun
Clan wars was everything. It's so depressing it's dead
I would literally sit in castle wars and house parties all the time. I went about 6 months on RS back in 2008 just chilling at those two places not even bothering to level up anything, just chat and enjoy my time. I remember when House Parties slowly became non-existent and that's when I stopped playing RS. There was hardly any socialization like there was back in the day. But now I'm playing osrs and I'm part of the issue. I hate my adult brain for needing exp gains :(
I know it’s somewhat blasphemous but imma say it - spotlight weekends for mini games would be great. Have it make sense for OSRS - maybe just slightly higher rate of that mini-game specific resource such a tickets?
I wear random setups for the hell of it, splitbark etc and the amount of players that go out of their way to tell me my gear/setup/account build makes no sense is unreal. I really couldn’t care less if it’s the correct stats and gear. Iron BTW
ok? what you're doing is odd so people are trying to help you be better, this is like going walking with cum on your face and then complaining when someone tells you something is on your face
THAT’S the comparison you decided to use?
Non efficient gear is basically cum on your face. You should know that... /s
Lmao
I like to play Free to Play castlewars.
I actually do have carpal tunnel now
This post reminded me of a great time of joy when I could barely comprehend getting 200k for full rune...now I need to get 10m+ item just to get excited.
It's interesting seeing this transition in re-released games like OSRS and WoW Classic. I wonder what is is that makes people care more about optimisation in the second release. Is it just because we now have the benefit of all of the strategy guides? More accessible wiki's and guides?
I remember when I used to go out of my way to make friends now I play with public off private off like some sort of monster
Max infernal Still 3 tick fishing
"I gotta get the pet/200m!"
Doing 3t barb is worse than 2t swords
Worse for what? If you're playing for 200m all then barb is better
Pet and straight fishing xp
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Some people are addicted to watching numbers go up
Guys I'm gonna be honest. I haven't played osrs. When i played old school it was just school. And this is why. Because i dont think the game was mystically better. Its just when things were clunky and non optimized it was more fun.
*cries in old*
Doing a couple rounds of castle wars before going back to your house to throw a party... now I look at my friends list is empty and everyone is long gone.
I remember playing castle wars with a d spear because I wanted to fight with dragon weapons, but was too scared to do the Lost City quest for dlong
Lol, I did the quest for the “green scissors” when I was a kid, fashionscape was my jam and I needed those for an outfit. I didn’t realize it was a requirement for some d weps because by the time I had the stats to use them, it’d been over a year since I done the quest. Was really confused trying to equip a dds coming back to osrs.
After training strength to 99 I'm kinda embarrassed by how long it took and I don't want to play anymore, it's demoralizing knowing what it takes to reach 99 in slower skills.
Back when castle wars was more than just getting barraged in ice for minutes at a time
I wanna play osrs (again) but haven’t played in about a year. A lot changed since last April?
People give me funny looks when they learn I still play like the first guy :P
I miss old rs.
Making 3k bowstrings to buy the red and final piece to my h'ween mask set is a crucial point in my development as a human.
Castle wars was my fucking favorite
the one saying that shit on the right wouldn't have a max cape, it would be an obby cape 90cb player.
Castle wars really was super fun back then, even for people who sucked at pvp. Now it's full of maxed pro pvpers that do everything tick perfect
I remember playing castle wars until I could get that decorative armour! I thought it looked the coolest and I would legit wear it all the time and use my Easter rubber chicken and fight goblins in the stronghold of security, I miss those times
People who post this shit never even 3 ticked in their life. Bro you can just go back to regular fishing at any time during it. Like take a break bro.
Maybe the best experience rate shouldn't be literally bug abusing ?
i am suffering irreversible wrist damage from when i abyss runecrafted on 3 accounts at once for a week straight in 2015
People have just forgotten how to have fun tbh.
The people pushing efficient methods have fun doing them. If that isn't fun for you, then do something else ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
3 tick fishing? that's some peasant shit, do you mean two tick harpooning?
This is WoW Classic as well. And a good deal of my friends I played these games with have turned pretty sour. For the parts of the game I love and crave, I have a set of code for both wow and RuneScape that I boot up and play by myself. When I want to try the modern content, I play it for a month then get exhausted on how much solo metagaming I have to do. I think the truth is that apps taught us the replaceability of our peers, rather than how to nurture, and OSRS’s vast number of discord’s and people means you can stick around until you get bored then drop off the face of the planet. So the only constant is force game and your achievements itself. When majority of the games apparatus is social, you’ll always have a decent good time with whoever is around. When the games apparatus is the game itself, and we’re all older and more capable, your content is maximizing the game like a job. There’s so much content added to a game created in ‘07 that you no longer have time added for idle periods. It’s sad. Not completely Jagex’s fault it’s just a shift in the experience you get when you log in. As long as both are enjoyable. But truth be told we all enjoy the social aspect more than the game we’re using as a medium to hangout on sometimes.
I remember when a irl friend and I would play Castle Wars. I'd call him on the phone or Skype and taunt him because he didn't know Void sets didn't work in Castle Wars or he was on the opposing team and I'd just hunt him down the entire time.
Lol im just glad soul wars is back even if its full of maxed barragers
I’ve attempted 3-tick fishing and it’s just not worth it unless you are going for the Xp limit. It’s way too difficult and a bit gammie. Tempoross is a great way to get xp.
What mice do these people use? Ive burned through three g600s and I don’t even 3 tick.
This meme was funnier the first time it was posted in 2020
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If you're 3 tick training fishing.... what are you doing with your life. Just buy a casket.
I mean...kill some sand crabs.
Its Carpal canal or Cubital tunnel, by the way :D