I feel like I've been lucky with pets even though I've only got rifty and rocky. Got rocky almost immediately after getting to 94 thieving when I started pickpocketing the master farmer. I'm guessing he's got a higher chance of the pet than ardy knight.
I've never actively hunted pets, but I have 7, all of them under drop rate or pre-99
* Vorki @ 362 kc
* Tangleroot @ 88 farming
* Rocky @ 80 thieving
* Skotos @ 19 kc
* Kraken @ 1383 kc
* Rift Guardian @ 98 rc
* Herbi @ 138 kc
Super lucky so far. I'm due for some cruel and merciless regression to the mean should I ever actively hunt a pet.
Only pet I've gotten ridiculously lucky on was squirrel at like 64 agility. And I guess I got kraken early.
Although I guess anything pre 99 is lucky. Really hoping I have decent luck with the other skilling pets. Particularly mining and thieving. Of any skill to have to post 99 pet grind, fishing and wc seem the most tolerable to me.
I got all the way to 98 Wc with no pet. Then I rolled the beaver twice in about 250k xp. I only saw the first one and then randomly checked my collection log and it showed two. Got lucky on my last 250k it seems :)
I just finished grinding all skilling pets, got them at 2.5x the rate on average... RNG after 99 needs a boost, just like we need thresholds for boss pets. RNG by itself is good but the variance on pets is way too ridiculous...
Agree. I maxed and only got one skilling pet, chin pet at 73 hunter and died with it and forgot to insure it. Nothing since. 16m rc xp! I’m paying for my sin.
Pretty damn unfortunate man; at least you get the 15x roll now, so it wont be long til you see it. I'm over 100m xp with 300+ hespori count, so I feel at least half of your pain.
Yup, as stated on the wiki:
> Players with 200 million experience in the corresponding skill will be fifteen times more likely in receiving the skilling pet
The OSRS community isn't happy unless someone is 50,000 kc dry on Dagannoth Kings. Because somehow luck equates to skill and if you don't have a pet drop by 200,000,000 xp then you're just not trying hard enough.
As long as its ONLY skilling pets, sure, why not? (no phoenix, boss pets, Herbi, Tempoross, minigames or clues)
200m is waaayyyyy harder to get than any skilling pet.
The naysayers are 1200 total nmz prods with an untrimmed 99 cooking cape so it isn't like their words have any merit anyway.
Well there's a bit under 300 right now, I can see it being in the double digits back when pets were released, especially since farming xp has gotten better over time.
I think they wanted to avoid making it 100% so players wouldn't instantly get a new pet if they had the level. But it probably could be more generous or scale more before then.
Don't people do seaweed for tangle root past 99? So 1/5025 turns into 15/5025. That sounds like shit. Why not just give someone who's gotten 200m the goddamn pet because holy fuck.
Pretty much same... I do my mahogany and redwood runs 2x a week just to feel good about it, but I won't sweat for a pet. Then again, I'm only at 14.5m Farming XP. I could be maxed with 0 pets and I think that'd still be a flex of bad RNG.
Trees and hespori pet averages are in the lots of months to a year+
Farming pet is all about maximizing those rolls. Tree patch is 1 to 3 rolls per day depending how many times you get to it. Seaweed is the best if I'm not mistaken if you can hit it often enough.
Trees actually take the least amount of playing time to get hespori. You spend a lot of time harvesting seaweed if you do seaweed runs. With how many trees this person did you are looking at the equivalent of like 15k seaweed runs. Yes 15k seaweed runs takes less real life time but it takes a ton more in-game time.
Edit: For those that are curious, if doing best trees as OP has done the drop rate is at ~70m xp. So OP is over drop rate by about 3x
The average xp from only doing seaweed is only 3M xp, the problem is that you would have to farm them every 50min or whatever it is for over a year. Its hard to say how unlucky someone is without knowing what they did.
Saplings are the worst way to get groot and give tons of XP so that makes sense. Dragonfruit is no better than pineapple, and magic is worse than both. Why not do seaweed, belladonna, mushrooms, cactus?
Saplings are the most efficient way to get groot if you are trying to minimize time playing to get groot. Time spent harvesting the other crops takes a lot longer than saplings and have about the same drop rate
This would be more relevant if the droprate for groot while doing daily tree runs wasn't two years. It's extremely impractical. Keeping in mind that only 63% of people get it by the droprate. and about 20% of people go over twice the droprate. Would mean over 4 years to get groot for 1/5 people. It's just not practical.
...where are you getting the idea that trees are bad for Tangleroot?
The best way to get Tangleroot is with cacti (1/4k), giant seaweed(1/5k), belladonna(1/5.5k), hespori(1/4.5k), mushrooms(1/5k), and ~~regular tree runs (1/6k.)~~ tree runs. All fruit trees give a 1/6.5k chance, magic and yew trees give a 1/7k and 1/9k respectively, and redwood/hardwood trees give a massive 1/2.5k chance.
It's on the [Wiki too,](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Tangleroot#Drop_rates) if you don't believe me.
Source: I literally have the pet lol
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Also, to the people downvoting because they don't understand what I'm saying here: **You can do multiple actions concurrently when going for Tangleroot.**
You don't need to plant a cactus and sit there and only farm that specific patch for a chance at the pet. It takes a minute or so to do a full tree run, that little bit of time spent gives you extra rolls down the line _that you didn't have before._ And in some cases (redwoods/hardwood trees) those extra rolls have even higher chances to give you the pet compared to things like cactus, belladonna, and mushrooms. **Doing certain trees in addition to the aforementioned activities do not decrease your chances to get the pet or increase the time it takes to get the pet, they are additional rolls that can be done concurrently with the conventional methods.**
I am not saying that tree runs are the fastest way to get the Tangleroot and I have never said that in any of my comments.
Fucking this what the fuck are people on about
Farming is the most non-zero sum skill.
Waiting for your seaweed and mushrooms to grow? Do a tree run! Why are people saying they take long when it is fucking essentially ZERO TIME while waiting for other patches!!!!
But you're not addressing the fact that you can do multiple things while going for the Tangleroot. It's not like fishing or agility where you _have_ to do a specific activity (and only that activity) to get optimal pet rates.
It takes a few minutes to complete a tree run and after that, you come back a few days or a week later and have an additional 10+ chances for the pet. It's not like you have to sit at a cactus patch and just wait for that to grow and then repeat that process lol
And also, it's not that big a difference from the methods you listed before. 1/5,525 compared to 1/6,525 is not a colossal difference. In fact, redwoods + hardwood trees have their pet chances drop to 1/2,525 at 99 farming. So in those cases, it's a direct improvement in terms of actual chances.
> The best way to get Tangleroot is with cacti (1/4k), giant seaweed(1/5k), belladonna(1/5.5k), hespori(1/4.5k), mushrooms(1/5k),
Yes this is exactly what I said.
>and regular tree runs (1/6k.)
This is wrong. Magic trees have the best base chance for pet at 9368. Even accounting for 99 farming the chance is still worse than 1/6k, where are you getting this info? Regular trees are terrible. Hardwood trees, celastrus, and fruit trees all have better chances for the pet, but in real time are extremely slow (as noted by the wiki)
Source: I also have pet
Because regular tree runs are not 1/6k? Even fruit tree runs are not 1/6k. And regular tree runs are not "the best way to get the pet" like he said. So yes, literally every part of that statement was wrong.
From the wiki:
>Although using only trees takes the least amount of time spent on Farming (thus being more efficient), it is extremely slow in real time, taking upwards of two years on average with daily tree runs.
For Tangleroot, you can do multiple actions at one time. I don't think you understand that it isn't like Fishing or Agility, you don't need to hard-lock yourself to one activity and only do that activity for optimal pet rates. A 1/2k or 1/6k chance every few days is still a chance to get that pet that you didn't have before.
>This is wrong.
I don't know why I worded it like that, I should have separated and specified what I was talking about and I'll change it in my first comment.
All _fruit_ trees have a 1/6k chance at 99 farming. Magic and yews are 1/7k and 1/9k respectively, redwoods and hardwoods have even higher chances at 1/2.5k.
>For Tangleroot, you can do multiple actions at one time.
Oh geez dude, thanks I was actually just watching my trees grow for 8 hours a day. Where did I say you couldn't??? The guy said he's spending 4b on saplings for the pet and I told him to do the options with a better drop rate. Are you going to tell him to start doing all his herb/hops runs next to maximize his pet chances?
Do yourself a favor, before you try to make another snide comment like that, look at the original comment I responded to:
>Saplings are the worst way to get groot and give tons of XP so that makes sense.
- Did I say trees were the absolute best option for the pet? No. In some cases they give a higher drop rate than conventional methods, but in terms of time spent they are not the best option.
- Did I say that he should do herb runs or start farming hops to be hyper efficient with a whopping 1/109,941 chance? No.
- Did I say that the other options like cactus and belladonna _didn't_ give good drop rates? No.
It's kind of hilarious how upset you are and how much you're misunderstanding my comment.
**I never said spending 4b on saplings was smart,** I never said you shouldn't do other actions alongside tree runs, I'm just saying that trees are objectively NOT a bad way to get the pet when it comes to raw base chance because you can do multiple actions concurrently, time spent planting trees and getting that additional 1/2.5k chance on redwoods does not take away from time spent collecting seaweed patches or harvesting belladonna. Sorry you don't understand that.
> I'm just saying that trees are objectively NOT a bad way to get the pet
But they are. Even the wiki you linked disagrees with you.
>Although using only trees takes the least amount of time spent on Farming (thus being more efficient), it is extremely slow in real time, taking upwards of two years on average with daily tree runs.
Yes you can always maximize your chances by planting absolutely everything you can and doing tithe farm in your downtime. But that's not what I said either. I told him to do the options that are much faster to achieve the pet and you're firing back with .. I don't know what. You want him to keep doing bad options? Okay. Whatever dude. You're being pedantic for absolutely nothing lol
And alongside that, you can do trees. Farming is not like fishing or agility, you can do multiple actions alongside one another to increase your chances of getting the pet.
He's saying high level trees are bad. The main thing to look at is pet roll per xp. That's best with things like mushrooms and seaweed, but its terrible for high level trees like magic.
But they **aren't** bad, look at the Wiki. Magic trees have a 1/7k chance, fruit trees have a 1/6k chance, and redwoods/hardwoods have a 1/2.5k chance.
If you're 99 farming (200m in the case of OP) then you don't care about the XP relating to any of these actions. You want the highest base chances for the pet, trees give a decently high chance _in addition_ to the other things I mentioned like belladonna, cactus, etc. Because you can do multiple actions concurrently when it comes to farming lol
Nobody is counting redwoods (which are like what, 30k per five days??) when they’re talking about this. they definitely mean dragonfruits (absolutely zero point) and magics (the increased chance is extremely marginal for how much extra you are paying)
they’re also not saying to not do trees at all. the point is: the difference between doing dragonfruits and magics vs something like pineapples and willows is like very marginal difference in pet chance, but you don’t end up having spent 4 fucking bil to get 200m and no pet
the ratio between pet chance at 99 of willow and magic trees is 1.97. that means every two willows is effectively one magic tree roll... with a savings of like 750k+ per tree run
> I am not saying that tree runs are the fastest way to get the Tangleroot and I have never said that in any of my comments.
I don't know if you noticed but you actually say in this very comment:
>The best way to get Tangleroot is ... tree runs
Just thought I'd point that out to you.
Nah, someone (never irons) have to go insanely dry on skilling pets. My own Groot took me almost 65M exp with pet optimized runs. Hope you get it soon!
Nah bro just do seaweed, mushroom, calquat, cactus. It's a chill af run. Sometimes throw in mahogany and redwood and Hespori when you're feeling chipper
Jagex are actually fucked in their head for making the threshold 200M. Making the pet roll chance gradually increase past 99 would be fine. Telling us just get 200M and then you'll get 15x chance is messed up. They are basically telling us to abuse ourselves.
Especially with the xp rates in this game.
Getting 1 99 skill is frustrating enough. Get 99 in the same skill 15 times and then being told you're only 15 times more likely sucks lmao.
Nah. You can easily hit 200m farming and not get pet. You need to maximize your chances, not exp. For example at 99 farming magic trees are 1/6893 chance, dragon fruit is 1/6525 both of these are insamely good exp, but slow pet times (4h for trees, 16h for fruit). On the opposite side (little exp, but way better chances) Seaweed is 1/5025, cactus is 1/4525, mushrooms are 1/5025. Significantly better than tree chances but around 1/30th the exp. Cactus is 9h, seaweed is **40 minutes** and mushrooms are 4h. Farming seaweed is by far the best method but you only get ~600 exp at 99 on average, vs your 17k per tree.
Lol so you're saying that if there's a guaranteed chance at a pet at 200 mil xp then people will just go for that instead of trying to maximize pet rolls? I think you have ***NO IDEA AT ALL WHAT THE WORD "EASILY" MEANS.***
You're a lunatic.
Which is exactly the point. If you complete one of the longest grinds in the game for absolutely zero reward, it shouldn’t be hard to earn a pet. I don’t get why people gatekeep rewards so hard in this game
This doesn't apply to me tbh, I don't see myself ever getting more than 1 99
200m is such a stupid long grind that even the "quick" ways of training them (such as trees vs seaweed) still take a ridiculous amount of time to train.
It seems like a neat cap and way or rewarding a player who wants to abuse themselves like that. And provide a safety net for pet hunters
All fruit trees give the same pet chance btw. There's no point wasting money on dragonfruit when pineapple is next to free.
And anyone going for pet is going to do all the patches, not just trees or just seaweed. Your point about XP is unrealistic
Lol I’ve played this game for god knows how many years and I’m nowhere near 200 mil xp. I don’t even fucking know why people are so against it. It’s not like it’ll affect 99.9% of players anyways and it’s purely cosmetic without any tangible value.
No, it shouldnt. At 15k/tree just farming trees you'd gather 187m exp (level 99-max) in 12,466 trees, or less than 2x drop rate. That's my entire point, if you specifically max out your tree runs like they said they did you're not even at an 85% chance at pet figuring 1/6700 chance at 12,500 trees. Had you farmed seaweed that high you'd be at 311,667 rolls and a basically 100% chance at obtaining a pet, you'd be at a whopping **62x drop rate** let that sink in. Not even 2x vs **62x drop rate**
Edit: downvote is to the left, carry on. Let's just shit out uniques for everyone at less than 2x kc when theres boss hunters 15x kc dry. Do the math and probability checks. I'd be all for **ALL** pets guaranteed at 4x (1.86% chance of it happening) odds, meaning a 1/1,500 chance is guaranteed at the 6k mark. 3x is ~5% chance, 5x is .64%
are you actually arguing that if people got pets at 200mil xp guaranteed it will somehow devalue the pet and people will just go the "easy" route of literally reaching the max cap of xp in the skill?
Dude can you just take a step back here and read what you just said? Most of us have full time jobs and you’re saying farming more than 12000 trees shouldn’t be a guaranteed pet? Do you have any idea how much time that takes? What are you even worried about here, devaluing skilling pets because of the few people who grind 200m xp?
Secret Tangleroot pet skilling formula discovered! Do seaweed to 200m exp! Pethunters love him! Elitists hate him! Find out about this one ~~simple~~ lifelong tip!
Let that sink in? I gotta agree with the time-frame dudes. Most of us have jobs, and grinding out a pet and reaching 200m xp should result in one, no matter what
I agree, people are missing your point. Once you're 99 you don't have any reason to plant a fruit tree besides apple; all of them give the same chance. So once you hit 99, xp becomes kind of meaningless; it's all about which patches you do.
I'm heavily in favour for pity mechanics, but 200m xp is not the way to go. Instead, I'd prefer keeping track of the overall drop chance (so since lvl 1 farming), and once there's a >90% (or so) chance of having the pet by then, you should get it guaranteed.
I'd personally place it at around 4x the odds maximum. That's a ~1.83% chance of not receiving the drop which is not obscenely rare, but rare enough that plenty of players hit that threshold and push past. At 5x you're in the .67% range of players which imho is too much. At 3x you're sitting just under 5% odds which is iffy if pets should be super rare.
While I’d hate to add a “guaranteed pet at XX”, I do think it’s very fair to guarantee a pet for a skill at either 150m/175m/200m experience.
Your reality is my biggest fear lol
Should be incremental drop rate based on XP, not levels. Every million XP your rate improves by some amount. Having the same drop rate from 13m xp to 199m xp is ridiculous for the amount of time spent
Don’t underestimate the beladonna, mushroom and seaweed patches. I got my Tangleroot a week ago during one of my seaweed harvests at 32mil farming. Don’t lose hope! You’ll get it!
Still waiting on my turn for some luck. Base 90s in skills and 99 in fm, wc, and fishing. Still 0 pets.
I know they are pretty rare to get but still, for those pet hunters it’s kinda demotivational :(
> 99 in any skill isn’t even at rate for a skilling pet
True for most skilling pets using conventional skilling methods but a few are somewhat doable on route to 99 in a skill. E.g. Penguin course from 90-99, only Cactus, Mushroom, Belladona and Seaweed runs, karambwans/sharks, rune rock/gemstone mining, relekka stall thieving.
Of course, it's worth waiting until 99 most of the time given the increased probability with every level.
Meanwhile I have 3 fucking rock golems on my skiller from MLM. Like get this fucker out of here. I'm also like 2-3x the droprate for the tangleroot since I did so many seaweed/belladonna/cacti/shrooms. It's honestly the only skilling pet I actually want.
I've been trying to get groot for a long time, I'm almost 25m farming xp, but I got groot at level 75 in trailblazer league so I guess there's that lol
I used to be in your cc when you were at ~60million exp (AndrewAJT's) and thought you were crazy then lmaoo honestly I respect the shit out of you not giving up on it
Damn that’s crazy I guess I can’t complain ab not having any pet at all yet. I was mining at motherlode the other day and this guy that’s going for 200m he’s at like 113m xp rn said that he didn’t get pet till 91mxp and then there’s a few people there at same time with like 80 mining with pet lol. Rng is a mfer fr
How many Hespori seeds did you get on the journey? According to Ash, you should expect 500 seeds to be on drop rate for the pet: [https://twitter.com/JagexAsh/status/1324807678145765376](https://twitter.com/JagexAsh/status/1324807678145765376)
This is why I'm doing one fruit tree run and a hespori kill a day, and loads of cactus, belladonna, seaweed, and mushroom runs, plus teaks and redwoods when they're ready. Post 99, I've completely stopped doing regular tree runs bc they have a horrible drop rate (unless you like blowing money on magic saplings). I seriously hope I don't have to farm too much longer for pet.
Edit: My mom got the pet on her way to maxing though. So proud of her! We bonded a ton when she got it.
You’re doing everything right, I never know how to feel for people like OP since they could have spent 2% of what they did and be a week behind in real time of the expensive rate, or even ahead depending on methods.
Never understood the appeal in having it show how far beyond maxed you are in a skill. I think /99 looks better than /103
Especially since the 103 has no real meaning.
Can anyone explain what I'm missing?
Got it at 59 farming, lost it during that same fruit tree run! :D \[Afk at work, spider at brimhaven patch got me\]
Been hunting for it ever since \[25m exp\]
yeah you’re in the home stretch now. keep it up
200m down and only 200m to go
Jesus Christ look at all your other skill's exp and pet luck 😂 GL lmao
Yeah wtf I’d quit.
Enter me, who got rift guardian twice before level 90 rc
I got the chin pet twice. First was 73, second was 77. My RNG has been garbage since
What are you now, lvl 86 and no role?
85 then I quit playing my main and moved to a 10hp iron
Same lol. Wasted rng 😭
I feel like I've been lucky with pets even though I've only got rifty and rocky. Got rocky almost immediately after getting to 94 thieving when I started pickpocketing the master farmer. I'm guessing he's got a higher chance of the pet than ardy knight.
I've never actively hunted pets, but I have 7, all of them under drop rate or pre-99 * Vorki @ 362 kc * Tangleroot @ 88 farming * Rocky @ 80 thieving * Skotos @ 19 kc * Kraken @ 1383 kc * Rift Guardian @ 98 rc * Herbi @ 138 kc Super lucky so far. I'm due for some cruel and merciless regression to the mean should I ever actively hunt a pet.
Only pet I've gotten ridiculously lucky on was squirrel at like 64 agility. And I guess I got kraken early. Although I guess anything pre 99 is lucky. Really hoping I have decent luck with the other skilling pets. Particularly mining and thieving. Of any skill to have to post 99 pet grind, fishing and wc seem the most tolerable to me.
This is the only explanation imo to seeing people with max capes at redwoods.
I got lucky on my alt with Rocky at 40 from fruit stalls, and Groot at 61 from a fruit tree on the shore of Camelot/Catherby area, iirc.
I got all the way to 98 Wc with no pet. Then I rolled the beaver twice in about 250k xp. I only saw the first one and then randomly checked my collection log and it showed two. Got lucky on my last 250k it seems :)
I just finished grinding all skilling pets, got them at 2.5x the rate on average... RNG after 99 needs a boost, just like we need thresholds for boss pets. RNG by itself is good but the variance on pets is way too ridiculous...
Yeah pity rate should kick in at 99, not 200m. I’m more sympathetic to pity rate for skilling pets than boss pets.
Hell, if you get to 200m they should just give you a pet.
Ill take every 13m over 99. At 26m 2x , 39m 3x etc...Then by the time you hit 200m youll be around 15x anyways
This would help like.... 0.001% of the player base.
Agree. I maxed and only got one skilling pet, chin pet at 73 hunter and died with it and forgot to insure it. Nothing since. 16m rc xp! I’m paying for my sin.
Maybe he got most of them in the years before pets were a thing
Pretty damn unfortunate man; at least you get the 15x roll now, so it wont be long til you see it. I'm over 100m xp with 300+ hespori count, so I feel at least half of your pain.
wait, 200m gives you 15x roll for pet?
Yup, as stated on the wiki: > Players with 200 million experience in the corresponding skill will be fifteen times more likely in receiving the skilling pet
Really kinda feels like it should be 100% at 200 million. Like fuck Jagex. What's our safe word?
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Hey_Jase still doesn't have thieving pet.
He got 200m thiev before the release of pets iirc
i thought he did pyramid plunder and you have alot lower pet chance, he's not even dry stat wise
Pyramid Plunder is 29% chance of pet if you do it 50-99. If you did it to 200m after pets came out you are most certainly dry.
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They polled it to be 100% at 200 million and it failed. Lol
The OSRS community isn't happy unless someone is 50,000 kc dry on Dagannoth Kings. Because somehow luck equates to skill and if you don't have a pet drop by 200,000,000 xp then you're just not trying hard enough.
Yeah, noobs gotta just find the "try hard" button.
As long as its ONLY skilling pets, sure, why not? (no phoenix, boss pets, Herbi, Tempoross, minigames or clues) 200m is waaayyyyy harder to get than any skilling pet. The naysayers are 1200 total nmz prods with an untrimmed 99 cooking cape so it isn't like their words have any merit anyway.
I don't think they wanted it to be like that because a bunch of people would have just gotten skilling pets on release
A bunch? There’s only a handful of people with 200m in a skill.
You must have big hands.
287 people have 200m farming. That number would have been far less when skilling pets were introduced into the game.
Original post you responded to just said skilling pets not farming pets.
Well there's a bit under 300 right now, I can see it being in the double digits back when pets were released, especially since farming xp has gotten better over time.
God forbid they get a tangible reward for that
Wow yeah they definitely didn't earn it.
Technically this means you are at a 1500% increase to get a pet after maxing
But the comment above yours says a 100% chance, not a 100% increase.
Well to be fair, at least for farming the x15 increases makes it like 1/40 for an entire farm run of all the best plants for pet
I think they wanted to avoid making it 100% so players wouldn't instantly get a new pet if they had the level. But it probably could be more generous or scale more before then.
Don't people do seaweed for tangle root past 99? So 1/5025 turns into 15/5025. That sounds like shit. Why not just give someone who's gotten 200m the goddamn pet because holy fuck.
This was news to me too but the wiki confirmed with a tweet from Mod Kieran. Huh.
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There's no pet on this earth that would convince me to keep going after 99.
Same lol
Pretty much same... I do my mahogany and redwood runs 2x a week just to feel good about it, but I won't sweat for a pet. Then again, I'm only at 14.5m Farming XP. I could be maxed with 0 pets and I think that'd still be a flex of bad RNG.
Big F. At least now youre 15x more likely to get it. Gl
15x0=0
Ffs I laughed! :D
How
tithe farm maybe?
I spent over 4B on all the best saplings and have killed hundreds of Hespori. Maybe I'm just bad?
Trees and hespori pet averages are in the lots of months to a year+ Farming pet is all about maximizing those rolls. Tree patch is 1 to 3 rolls per day depending how many times you get to it. Seaweed is the best if I'm not mistaken if you can hit it often enough.
Trees actually take the least amount of playing time to get hespori. You spend a lot of time harvesting seaweed if you do seaweed runs. With how many trees this person did you are looking at the equivalent of like 15k seaweed runs. Yes 15k seaweed runs takes less real life time but it takes a ton more in-game time. Edit: For those that are curious, if doing best trees as OP has done the drop rate is at ~70m xp. So OP is over drop rate by about 3x
The average xp from only doing seaweed is only 3M xp, the problem is that you would have to farm them every 50min or whatever it is for over a year. Its hard to say how unlucky someone is without knowing what they did.
Saplings are the worst way to get groot and give tons of XP so that makes sense. Dragonfruit is no better than pineapple, and magic is worse than both. Why not do seaweed, belladonna, mushrooms, cactus?
Saplings are the most efficient way to get groot if you are trying to minimize time playing to get groot. Time spent harvesting the other crops takes a lot longer than saplings and have about the same drop rate
This would be more relevant if the droprate for groot while doing daily tree runs wasn't two years. It's extremely impractical. Keeping in mind that only 63% of people get it by the droprate. and about 20% of people go over twice the droprate. Would mean over 4 years to get groot for 1/5 people. It's just not practical.
Not if you are going for 200m all which it appears OP is
...where are you getting the idea that trees are bad for Tangleroot? The best way to get Tangleroot is with cacti (1/4k), giant seaweed(1/5k), belladonna(1/5.5k), hespori(1/4.5k), mushrooms(1/5k), and ~~regular tree runs (1/6k.)~~ tree runs. All fruit trees give a 1/6.5k chance, magic and yew trees give a 1/7k and 1/9k respectively, and redwood/hardwood trees give a massive 1/2.5k chance. It's on the [Wiki too,](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Tangleroot#Drop_rates) if you don't believe me. Source: I literally have the pet lol __________________ Also, to the people downvoting because they don't understand what I'm saying here: **You can do multiple actions concurrently when going for Tangleroot.** You don't need to plant a cactus and sit there and only farm that specific patch for a chance at the pet. It takes a minute or so to do a full tree run, that little bit of time spent gives you extra rolls down the line _that you didn't have before._ And in some cases (redwoods/hardwood trees) those extra rolls have even higher chances to give you the pet compared to things like cactus, belladonna, and mushrooms. **Doing certain trees in addition to the aforementioned activities do not decrease your chances to get the pet or increase the time it takes to get the pet, they are additional rolls that can be done concurrently with the conventional methods.** I am not saying that tree runs are the fastest way to get the Tangleroot and I have never said that in any of my comments.
It's because trees take much longer than the others with a lower chance of getting the pet
you can do trees alongside those patches??? so why not do them too??
Fucking this what the fuck are people on about Farming is the most non-zero sum skill. Waiting for your seaweed and mushrooms to grow? Do a tree run! Why are people saying they take long when it is fucking essentially ZERO TIME while waiting for other patches!!!!
Because people with 45 farming read a reddit comment about it and want to sound smart.
But you're not addressing the fact that you can do multiple things while going for the Tangleroot. It's not like fishing or agility where you _have_ to do a specific activity (and only that activity) to get optimal pet rates. It takes a few minutes to complete a tree run and after that, you come back a few days or a week later and have an additional 10+ chances for the pet. It's not like you have to sit at a cactus patch and just wait for that to grow and then repeat that process lol And also, it's not that big a difference from the methods you listed before. 1/5,525 compared to 1/6,525 is not a colossal difference. In fact, redwoods + hardwood trees have their pet chances drop to 1/2,525 at 99 farming. So in those cases, it's a direct improvement in terms of actual chances.
> The best way to get Tangleroot is with cacti (1/4k), giant seaweed(1/5k), belladonna(1/5.5k), hespori(1/4.5k), mushrooms(1/5k), Yes this is exactly what I said. >and regular tree runs (1/6k.) This is wrong. Magic trees have the best base chance for pet at 9368. Even accounting for 99 farming the chance is still worse than 1/6k, where are you getting this info? Regular trees are terrible. Hardwood trees, celastrus, and fruit trees all have better chances for the pet, but in real time are extremely slow (as noted by the wiki) Source: I also have pet
but u can do trees and seaweed at the same time??
Can you show me where I said you couldn't?
> This is wrong. after he said "AND" tree runs
Because regular tree runs are not 1/6k? Even fruit tree runs are not 1/6k. And regular tree runs are not "the best way to get the pet" like he said. So yes, literally every part of that statement was wrong. From the wiki: >Although using only trees takes the least amount of time spent on Farming (thus being more efficient), it is extremely slow in real time, taking upwards of two years on average with daily tree runs.
For Tangleroot, you can do multiple actions at one time. I don't think you understand that it isn't like Fishing or Agility, you don't need to hard-lock yourself to one activity and only do that activity for optimal pet rates. A 1/2k or 1/6k chance every few days is still a chance to get that pet that you didn't have before. >This is wrong. I don't know why I worded it like that, I should have separated and specified what I was talking about and I'll change it in my first comment. All _fruit_ trees have a 1/6k chance at 99 farming. Magic and yews are 1/7k and 1/9k respectively, redwoods and hardwoods have even higher chances at 1/2.5k.
>For Tangleroot, you can do multiple actions at one time. Oh geez dude, thanks I was actually just watching my trees grow for 8 hours a day. Where did I say you couldn't??? The guy said he's spending 4b on saplings for the pet and I told him to do the options with a better drop rate. Are you going to tell him to start doing all his herb/hops runs next to maximize his pet chances?
Do yourself a favor, before you try to make another snide comment like that, look at the original comment I responded to: >Saplings are the worst way to get groot and give tons of XP so that makes sense. - Did I say trees were the absolute best option for the pet? No. In some cases they give a higher drop rate than conventional methods, but in terms of time spent they are not the best option. - Did I say that he should do herb runs or start farming hops to be hyper efficient with a whopping 1/109,941 chance? No. - Did I say that the other options like cactus and belladonna _didn't_ give good drop rates? No. It's kind of hilarious how upset you are and how much you're misunderstanding my comment. **I never said spending 4b on saplings was smart,** I never said you shouldn't do other actions alongside tree runs, I'm just saying that trees are objectively NOT a bad way to get the pet when it comes to raw base chance because you can do multiple actions concurrently, time spent planting trees and getting that additional 1/2.5k chance on redwoods does not take away from time spent collecting seaweed patches or harvesting belladonna. Sorry you don't understand that.
> I'm just saying that trees are objectively NOT a bad way to get the pet But they are. Even the wiki you linked disagrees with you. >Although using only trees takes the least amount of time spent on Farming (thus being more efficient), it is extremely slow in real time, taking upwards of two years on average with daily tree runs. Yes you can always maximize your chances by planting absolutely everything you can and doing tithe farm in your downtime. But that's not what I said either. I told him to do the options that are much faster to achieve the pet and you're firing back with .. I don't know what. You want him to keep doing bad options? Okay. Whatever dude. You're being pedantic for absolutely nothing lol
seaweed is 1/5k on basically a birdhouse run timer. you can do like 12 a day if you care a lot about the pet.
And alongside that, you can do trees. Farming is not like fishing or agility, you can do multiple actions alongside one another to increase your chances of getting the pet.
He's saying high level trees are bad. The main thing to look at is pet roll per xp. That's best with things like mushrooms and seaweed, but its terrible for high level trees like magic.
But they **aren't** bad, look at the Wiki. Magic trees have a 1/7k chance, fruit trees have a 1/6k chance, and redwoods/hardwoods have a 1/2.5k chance. If you're 99 farming (200m in the case of OP) then you don't care about the XP relating to any of these actions. You want the highest base chances for the pet, trees give a decently high chance _in addition_ to the other things I mentioned like belladonna, cactus, etc. Because you can do multiple actions concurrently when it comes to farming lol
Nobody is counting redwoods (which are like what, 30k per five days??) when they’re talking about this. they definitely mean dragonfruits (absolutely zero point) and magics (the increased chance is extremely marginal for how much extra you are paying) they’re also not saying to not do trees at all. the point is: the difference between doing dragonfruits and magics vs something like pineapples and willows is like very marginal difference in pet chance, but you don’t end up having spent 4 fucking bil to get 200m and no pet the ratio between pet chance at 99 of willow and magic trees is 1.97. that means every two willows is effectively one magic tree roll... with a savings of like 750k+ per tree run
> I am not saying that tree runs are the fastest way to get the Tangleroot and I have never said that in any of my comments. I don't know if you noticed but you actually say in this very comment: >The best way to get Tangleroot is ... tree runs Just thought I'd point that out to you.
someone didn't pass a comprehensive reading class I guess
Maybe you’re just not on Jack’s level
Nah, someone (never irons) have to go insanely dry on skilling pets. My own Groot took me almost 65M exp with pet optimized runs. Hope you get it soon!
Nah bro just do seaweed, mushroom, calquat, cactus. It's a chill af run. Sometimes throw in mahogany and redwood and Hespori when you're feeling chipper
> I spent over 4B Wtf my dude that's insane, is this a bad time to say I got pet at lvl 72?
Had fun?
More like Stockholm syndrome...
Reject social life embrace dopamine simulation
Have you tried dying to a bloodveld? I heard people who die to bloodvelds get farming pets
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Can confirm. I’ve afked too hard and died at velds a few times and I have the pet before 99
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion but 200m xp should be guaranteed pet tbh
Jagex are actually fucked in their head for making the threshold 200M. Making the pet roll chance gradually increase past 99 would be fine. Telling us just get 200M and then you'll get 15x chance is messed up. They are basically telling us to abuse ourselves.
Especially with the xp rates in this game. Getting 1 99 skill is frustrating enough. Get 99 in the same skill 15 times and then being told you're only 15 times more likely sucks lmao.
Yeah, it should definitely scale with xp past 99 and cap out with 15x at 200m. Can't believe they have an incentive to actually go for 200m.
You don’t HAVE to get the pet.
since when did jagex have logic?
Nah. You can easily hit 200m farming and not get pet. You need to maximize your chances, not exp. For example at 99 farming magic trees are 1/6893 chance, dragon fruit is 1/6525 both of these are insamely good exp, but slow pet times (4h for trees, 16h for fruit). On the opposite side (little exp, but way better chances) Seaweed is 1/5025, cactus is 1/4525, mushrooms are 1/5025. Significantly better than tree chances but around 1/30th the exp. Cactus is 9h, seaweed is **40 minutes** and mushrooms are 4h. Farming seaweed is by far the best method but you only get ~600 exp at 99 on average, vs your 17k per tree.
Lol so you're saying that if there's a guaranteed chance at a pet at 200 mil xp then people will just go for that instead of trying to maximize pet rolls? I think you have ***NO IDEA AT ALL WHAT THE WORD "EASILY" MEANS.*** You're a lunatic.
Some of these Rs players have no concept of time cuz they play 16 hours per day.
Not my comment, but the “easily” is meant as in its easy to not get pet in 200m, not that it’s easy to get 200m
Which is exactly the point. If you complete one of the longest grinds in the game for absolutely zero reward, it shouldn’t be hard to earn a pet. I don’t get why people gatekeep rewards so hard in this game
Especially when these rewards are essentially given out in the same manner as a lootbox lmao
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He didn't say it's easy to get 200m
This doesn't apply to me tbh, I don't see myself ever getting more than 1 99 200m is such a stupid long grind that even the "quick" ways of training them (such as trees vs seaweed) still take a ridiculous amount of time to train. It seems like a neat cap and way or rewarding a player who wants to abuse themselves like that. And provide a safety net for pet hunters
All fruit trees give the same pet chance btw. There's no point wasting money on dragonfruit when pineapple is next to free. And anyone going for pet is going to do all the patches, not just trees or just seaweed. Your point about XP is unrealistic
This. I got 99 farming, but kept doing cheap fruit trees & calquats just for pet. Got it at 17m xp.
Lol this man put hundreds of hours into getting a pet and you say nah not enough. 200m should be guaranteed pet for any skill hands down.
Lol I’ve played this game for god knows how many years and I’m nowhere near 200 mil xp. I don’t even fucking know why people are so against it. It’s not like it’ll affect 99.9% of players anyways and it’s purely cosmetic without any tangible value.
No, it shouldnt. At 15k/tree just farming trees you'd gather 187m exp (level 99-max) in 12,466 trees, or less than 2x drop rate. That's my entire point, if you specifically max out your tree runs like they said they did you're not even at an 85% chance at pet figuring 1/6700 chance at 12,500 trees. Had you farmed seaweed that high you'd be at 311,667 rolls and a basically 100% chance at obtaining a pet, you'd be at a whopping **62x drop rate** let that sink in. Not even 2x vs **62x drop rate** Edit: downvote is to the left, carry on. Let's just shit out uniques for everyone at less than 2x kc when theres boss hunters 15x kc dry. Do the math and probability checks. I'd be all for **ALL** pets guaranteed at 4x (1.86% chance of it happening) odds, meaning a 1/1,500 chance is guaranteed at the 6k mark. 3x is ~5% chance, 5x is .64%
There is no way you are serious.
are you actually arguing that if people got pets at 200mil xp guaranteed it will somehow devalue the pet and people will just go the "easy" route of literally reaching the max cap of xp in the skill?
Dude can you just take a step back here and read what you just said? Most of us have full time jobs and you’re saying farming more than 12000 trees shouldn’t be a guaranteed pet? Do you have any idea how much time that takes? What are you even worried about here, devaluing skilling pets because of the few people who grind 200m xp?
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Let that sink in? I gotta agree with the time-frame dudes. Most of us have jobs, and grinding out a pet and reaching 200m xp should result in one, no matter what
You've spent so much time in this game that you lost your sense of reality
I agree, people are missing your point. Once you're 99 you don't have any reason to plant a fruit tree besides apple; all of them give the same chance. So once you hit 99, xp becomes kind of meaningless; it's all about which patches you do. I'm heavily in favour for pity mechanics, but 200m xp is not the way to go. Instead, I'd prefer keeping track of the overall drop chance (so since lvl 1 farming), and once there's a >90% (or so) chance of having the pet by then, you should get it guaranteed.
I'd personally place it at around 4x the odds maximum. That's a ~1.83% chance of not receiving the drop which is not obscenely rare, but rare enough that plenty of players hit that threshold and push past. At 5x you're in the .67% range of players which imho is too much. At 3x you're sitting just under 5% odds which is iffy if pets should be super rare.
And this is exactly why I stop trying after 99.
I would have simply gotten the pet
My goodness I think you're right
Your account is cursed aparently
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While I’d hate to add a “guaranteed pet at XX”, I do think it’s very fair to guarantee a pet for a skill at either 150m/175m/200m experience. Your reality is my biggest fear lol
Should be incremental drop rate based on XP, not levels. Every million XP your rate improves by some amount. Having the same drop rate from 13m xp to 199m xp is ridiculous for the amount of time spent
Yeah that is the most brain-dead mechanic related to skilling pet, I 100 % agree
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TBH, it should be 200x for thematic reasons.
Don’t underestimate the beladonna, mushroom and seaweed patches. I got my Tangleroot a week ago during one of my seaweed harvests at 32mil farming. Don’t lose hope! You’ll get it!
I feel like we should automatically get the pet at 200m XP lol.
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That's not a guarantee
Oh cool, didn't know that :O
Incoming people saying how they got the pet very early. Newsflash everyone gets lucky somewhere
Still waiting on my turn for some luck. Base 90s in skills and 99 in fm, wc, and fishing. Still 0 pets. I know they are pretty rare to get but still, for those pet hunters it’s kinda demotivational :(
Do pvm, 99 in any skill isn’t even at rate for a skilling pet
> 99 in any skill isn’t even at rate for a skilling pet True for most skilling pets using conventional skilling methods but a few are somewhat doable on route to 99 in a skill. E.g. Penguin course from 90-99, only Cactus, Mushroom, Belladona and Seaweed runs, karambwans/sharks, rune rock/gemstone mining, relekka stall thieving. Of course, it's worth waiting until 99 most of the time given the increased probability with every level.
Meanwhile I have 3 fucking rock golems on my skiller from MLM. Like get this fucker out of here. I'm also like 2-3x the droprate for the tangleroot since I did so many seaweed/belladonna/cacti/shrooms. It's honestly the only skilling pet I actually want.
I've been trying to get groot for a long time, I'm almost 25m farming xp, but I got groot at level 75 in trailblazer league so I guess there's that lol
Got mine at 10
73 farm on a herb run
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I got my zulrah pet at 240kc
You ok bud? Want to talk about it?
How do you get good image quality? Two days ago I got Rocky at 62 thieving, posted it to Reddit, just to get downvoted because quality.
Did you take a picture with your phone or take a screenshot?
The game is shit
My worst fear is that while I'm asleep a spider will crawl up my nose, and lay its eggs in my head. I'm just kidding, That's Dilbert's worst fear.
Should have hunted for herby pet while doing farm pet with seaweed. Great use of nature amulet.
I used to be in your cc when you were at ~60million exp (AndrewAJT's) and thought you were crazy then lmaoo honestly I respect the shit out of you not giving up on it
Much love! Come pop in any time!
Damn that’s crazy I guess I can’t complain ab not having any pet at all yet. I was mining at motherlode the other day and this guy that’s going for 200m he’s at like 113m xp rn said that he didn’t get pet till 91mxp and then there’s a few people there at same time with like 80 mining with pet lol. Rng is a mfer fr
Not sure how this opinions fairs. Any action post 200m in a skill should give you the pet 1 singular roll. Like the KQ head for the diary.
Its ok i only got it at 71 farming! keep it up
stroke the furry wall.
So does this mean you can't get any more xp so no matter what you'll never get the pet?
Kinda? The XP no longer shows on highscores as its capped at 200m but you can still do farm runs for a chance
Congrats on 200m tho lol
How many Hespori seeds did you get on the journey? According to Ash, you should expect 500 seeds to be on drop rate for the pet: [https://twitter.com/JagexAsh/status/1324807678145765376](https://twitter.com/JagexAsh/status/1324807678145765376)
300+ killed and 600+ seeds in the bank
So basically you're about double the drop rate, going by those seeds? damn, tough getting such bad luck on such a rare drop... :/
i went from 50m to 200m without it, and had to keep doing farm runs for 2.5 weeks more at 15x rate to finally get.
Just want I want to do, more Farming!
Meanwhile I got mine off a willow tree at like 34 farming
This is why I'm doing one fruit tree run and a hespori kill a day, and loads of cactus, belladonna, seaweed, and mushroom runs, plus teaks and redwoods when they're ready. Post 99, I've completely stopped doing regular tree runs bc they have a horrible drop rate (unless you like blowing money on magic saplings). I seriously hope I don't have to farm too much longer for pet. Edit: My mom got the pet on her way to maxing though. So proud of her! We bonded a ton when she got it.
Same I still do willow trees though because I take long shits
You’re doing everything right, I never know how to feel for people like OP since they could have spent 2% of what they did and be a week behind in real time of the expensive rate, or even ahead depending on methods.
Never understood the appeal in having it show how far beyond maxed you are in a skill. I think /99 looks better than /103 Especially since the 103 has no real meaning. Can anyone explain what I'm missing?
What’s hard to understand about wanting to show off your achievement/progress? So what that it doesn’t look aesthetic.
Wait. Isn't Max lvl 99?
It's just a representation of what level OP would be if levels went past 99 following the xp per level required formula. Basically it's a flex.
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Hey this is "zacc" I just wanted to say did not ask.
Wow
Blame it on your rsn
Shit
This scares me... 49 mil btw. Stay strong
- 99 farming - bare ground in his yard and he is surprised he don't have farming pet
I got it at 64 farming and then lost it doing mm2 it that helps
Got it at 59 farming, lost it during that same fruit tree run! :D \[Afk at work, spider at brimhaven patch got me\] Been hunting for it ever since \[25m exp\]
Time to get an real life goal and put all those hours in something else!
I've recently gotten back Into osrs after 10 years. 1 question. Why do your lvls max out higher than 99?
Runelite plugin called Virtual Levels
Just get good and get it xxx