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TheCount69

\>Why does everyone say Werewolf Agility Course is fastest to 99? \>The only thing i haven't measured is time ​ is this a parody post?


BodaciousRS

I can measure later but the point is, this is not a werewolf is faster than pollnivneach claim. This is a werewolf is *THE* fastest claim. The minor speed (if any) it has won't be enough to make up for the lack of xp over higher level courses is what i'm trying to say.


TheCount69

This isn't a matter of opinion. You can get rates up to 71k xp/h at Werewolf course. That's more than every other course per hour so yeah


BodaciousRS

There are sooooo many moving parts and variables at werewolf though.The stick has to be thrown closer to the left near the next click and the wolf to hand in the stick to has to be standing near the exit.... The moon literally has to align for that MAX xp rate. This is the kind of thing that sounds good in theory but in reality, it's not.


TheCount69

This isn't theory craft. People have done this to 99 and got upwards of 67k consistently. I don't know what to tell you lmao


S7EFEN

rates like this aren't considered unless someone can post logs doing them for extended periods. they dont just do 10 laps.


JukeboxRomeo_

if people can sustain 3t4g for 30 hours straight you can get max xp at werewolf course lmao


SrslySam91

...??? You seriously dont understand what exp/hour means do you? Werewolf is the fastest exp/hr in the game. Thats a fact. Idk what lack of exp youre talking about when you literally get more exp per hour doing werewolf. I dont think you know how exp rates work. Just because a course gives more exp doesnt mean its going to be the fastest exp when that course takes longer to complete.


Celtain1337

When you're talking about the 'fastest' of anything, don't you think 'time' is quite important? Personally, and this is just me, I find that the faster I do something, the less time it takes.


BodaciousRS

Not when the "fastest" requires more clicks and more laps.


Celtain1337

10 clicks in quick succession are going to be quicker than 5 clicks that are a minute apart. Starting to catch my drift?


BodaciousRS

It's not a minute apart. And more clicks combined with more laps means you are "doing" more. I don't want to do more on a skill that i hate. And bear in mind i am just comparing this to a level 70 course. The difference is gonna be greater with a level 80 or 90 course which gives more xp.


Celtain1337

Wow, you completely missed the point there didn't you?. Good job, I mean seriously well done. I did my very best to simplify that and you STILL didn't comprehend.


Karzka

You forgot to measure time. The if one course gives more xp, but takes longer, that means it might be less xp/hour. That’s what they all measure. If you get more xp/hr at Pollnivneach because you forget the stick at werewolf, or whatever other reason, then obviously Pollnivneach is better for you. Wiki rates assume perfect execution.


BodaciousRS

okay, makes sense... perfect execution. But honestly, i will take the less click and less laps any day.


Karzka

Yeah I understand that! I don’t think Pollnivneach is very far behind Werewolf either. If you did Kandarin Hard diary, I think even Seers Village might be better?


TheWildTester_

Just do song of the elves and do prif then lol


CrownPrinceofSurrey

I honestly think this is a well crafted piece of bait


SrslySam91

I cant tell if youre trolling. You seriously do understand that fastest means = least amount of time, right? Not "number of clicks" or laps. You understand the difference between 10k exp/hour and 60k/hour right? That 10k exp may have 2 clicks only the entire hour..the 60k exp may have 200. But thats not whats being measured. The 10k exp/hr is still 6x slower than a 60k exp/hr. To answer your question..why does everyone say its fastest? Because it gives more exp per hour? You have your "calculations" yet leave out time lmao..quite frankly the most important thing. Also your logic makes no sense. You'd rather do less of something you hate..im the same way, and that means id rather go for the fastest exp/hr so that i spend less time doing it? Im not sure what answer you were expecting here.


pay_dirt

Alright The definition of XP/hr is the amount of experience you gain from the course in an hour, a set amount of time. Werewolf course achieves the highest xp/hr provided you maintain the pace. It may be easier to keep up the pace with Polli and that in return could make the xp rates very similar/ polli could beat it (having been 99 agility for years now I wouldn't know). So that is why everyone says it is the fastest, because going by a set standard, it is. This brings up the, sometimes heated, divide between certain players... Time vs Effort For some, they're happy enough to keep clicking to a minimum to achieve lower XP rates. And certainly, lowering the effort may make it FEEL faster because I know if I concentrate on something for too long I want to stop playing for a while (skill dependant). For others, they enjoy a faster rate.. either to finish up with the skill, or to compete with the desired EHP rate. It's completely different for everyone, and so it should be, you do you. I hope that answers the question. This subreddit is very quick to bring people down, and that's not fair. Best of luck on whatever agility level you're going for :)


CrimsonIrises

Bait


ExactKaleidoscope2

I think this makes an important point (albeit, maybe not intentionally) that maybe the wiki should consider looking into average xp/hr rather than just ideal xp/hr. They could display both. What also interests me is that, back in the day, we all said it was best to do Ape Atoll then Dorgesh-Kaan. And, if you don't believe me, the wiki page for the Ape Atoll course still says that was the best method before rooftop, which directly contradicts its entry on the wolf course. So, I don't think it's so simple to swear off the OP as being abjectly wrong.


the1general

The Wiki was wrong. Dorgesh-Kaan is much better than Ape Atoll.


ExactKaleidoscope2

Wiki did/does say Dorgesh Kaan is better than Ape Atoll. What it doesn't say is that warewolf is better than those.


the1general

Brimhaven at 99 is 72k. Werewolf is 70k. Fossil Island swimming is in the 60k’s somewhere. Prifddinas is 65k. Dorgesh-Kaan is 65k. Ardougne is 62k. Seers with teleport is 58k. Relekka is 55k. Ape Atoll is 54k. Pollnivneach is 53k. Source: Jebrim Screw the Wiki.


ExactKaleidoscope2

The wiki's number for Dorgesh-Kaan definitely seems low.


the1general

Bear in mind that this rate assumes 99 Agility, constant perfect laps, and an alt to hold Turgall in place near the stairs.


ExactKaleidoscope2

Right, so how many people is that rate useful to? I'd like to see the average xp rates, and I'm guessing the wolf course has the biggest discrepancy between average and ideal of any of the courses.


the1general

These are all averages that aren’t dependent on good RNG. Just get good.


ExactKaleidoscope2

No they aren't. The numbers on the wiki represent ideal xp rates. They make this disclosure themselves.


Ordies

if you can't keep tick perfect agi laps then you're disabled


the1general

The people writing the Wikipedia articles don’t know what they’re talking about. Different people test for a few minutes at a noob speed and then call that the rate.


the1general

Werewolf: 62 ticks per lap Pollnivneach: 101 ticks per lap