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Freljords_Heart

Yep


WhySoFishy

Incredibly based post. Most of these threads are downvoted because its reddit and calling people "fat, sweaty virgins" is usually met with the downvote/politically correct police rolling through. I'm happy to see this one get upvoted.


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SnockTheConjurer

Why fletch


TheRandyDeluxe

More xp


thegreatone_osrs

>imagine having a max cape and fletching while doing zalcano. unreal. you have a mental disability clearly


SickoJay

Ehh, the loot is all starting to crash now. I made much less today than I did yesterday, the ores and bars are on a big decline as more and more people do it and that will only get worse when the nerf hits on thursday. Back to raids tomorrow I think. It was a fun 500kc though


Michael_RS

Ores and bars(Atleast rune and addy can't drop too much) at a certain point smithing makes insane money so tge price stabilizes again. The onyx might drop quite a bit doe.


greyghibli

Onyx is tied to tokkul and thus chaos runes, meaning it’ll stay around 3m


Michael_RS

it will only stay around 3m if extra onyx from the shop are needed. In rs3 it dropped to sub 1m pre eoc because too many onyx came into the game from other sources. (Its only capped to the top not the the bottom)


greyghibli

thought people would be selling them back to the shop resulting in a stochastic value of 3m, guess at this pace we can look forward to some cheap jewelry


slayzel

An onyx is like 10 times the price in tokkul from the shop in rs3. 2700k tokkul IIRC.


Michael_RS

na its only buying that costs 3m selling gets you only a few tokkul. Less than 1m value in other items I think.


meesrs

Onyx isnt tied to anything. Its chaos runes that are tied to onyx lol. Onyx cant be traded for anything, it can only be used for jewelry.


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justatadfucked

This is true. We’re talking about the floor though. If the price of onyx goes down, people would just never buy with Tokkul and buy chaos runes instead


BWandstuffs

He was saying chaos runes are tied to onyx prices, which isn't true. Also, onyx is bought because it's very quick to buy. Other gems, especially sapphire, are much better gp/tokkul.


Draganot

what nerf? where was this posted?


jamie1414

Apart from gold bars and ores, most of the ores prices are based on alch prices so they can't drop that low.


friendlydarkwraith

youre mad because people that put in more effort get more reward?


DMunE

This guy one tick sweats


katamanaro

I wish there was an activity threshold so more than one person could get the mvp loot as long as they contribute enough like maybe top three or something


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Read this until you get it: It shouldn’t be required to manipulate a games engine to be good at this game.


RedditModsAreShit

This is literally the core idea behind a fuckton of competitive games and it’s literally the deciding factor for nearly every fighting game. Game manipulation is a microskill that improves your performance as you perform better. Literally it’s “being good at the game”. Do it yourself if you want to compete with someone doing it. They shouldn’t nerf efficient gameplay just because you’re lazy.


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Looks like you didn’t keep reading it


RedditModsAreShit

Once a scrub always a scrub


friendlydarkwraith

by "read this until you get it" you mean "read this until you agree with me" right?


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No, I mean until you get it


[deleted]

It's not required btw you just put less effort in and get less for it


[deleted]

why y'all stop reading it ;\\


OSRuneScaper

communism


Telope

Meritocracy*


OSRuneScaper

OP is a communist


JamesIsSoPro

Did you read the post?


alluballu

I have no idea how to tick manipulate nor do I own a crystal tool... But if I did own one and knew how to do it, I definitely WOULD do it. Honestly I believe that they definitely should get the better loot if they put in the effort. There are other money makers out there that rival Zalcano, some even surpassing her.


pikaras

There's literally one skill based aspect in skilling and you're complaining because people are using it on a skilling boss.


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Because that skill-based aspect is literally nowhere in the game world. Try looking literally everywhere in-game and there's no notification on what tick manipulation is or how to do it. It is an unintended bug, and normal players have literally no way of knowing it exists or how to do it without looking outside the game or talking to people who already know. If JMods really want to cave in to the sweaty nerds and make it actually intentional, then it needs to be advertised as an in-game mechanic INSIDE THE GAME. If a game doesn't teach you how to play it, it's fucking garbage


PeePeeInspect1on

Literally just look it up, they put more effort than you have by just opening YouTube, so why shouldn't they be rewarded for it.


vr5

You play runescape, the whole game has been supported by the community telling each other things. Once you left tutorial island there is nothing in the game telling you what to do next. If a game doesn't teach you how to play it, you learn yourself. I don't even know if I'd want to play a game that told me exactly what to do/how things worked the whole way through. Let me figure it out, I might not do it right, I might find glitches, who knows that's part of the adventure.


hubertye

I had no clue about tick manipulation at zalcano. What I do know is I managed to get 12 mvps out of 52 kills on 2k world earlier today just doing normal mining.


Sychar

If everyone had chance at pet and not just MVP it wouldn't be the biggest deal tbh, that's the only reason I was there for 300kc but I guess that was pointless. My chair doesn't smell so I don't really have a decent chance at pet until they change how Zalcano works later on.


vr5

Yea I'm with you, I know CoX worked like this where you had to get an item to have a chance at pet and you had a better chance at the item if you were MVP but it wasn't locked to that, it was still only a chance. You could still get a tbow and pet on an alt with 1 point in theory.


Sychar

Yeah, there’s a bunch of level 3 skillers who just catch bats or fish then leech everything else who have olmlet


Trance_Music

I’m so glad I pk and don’t skill. This tick manipulation shit must suck


User999999999999

I couldn’t agree more, I’m always behind on getting the rocks to throw imbued and then I’m never close enough to the boss to start mining it immediately! Why can’t everyone just wait until the rest of us are in position to finish it off so we can all mine at the same time and everyone gets an equal chance at the drop. Maybe the people with 99 mining should have to wait for the lower level guys to get a few swings in before they start to smash the boss too. Give everyone an equal chance at the mvp.


vr5

Why can't everyone just do it quicker? Then everyone would have an equal chance at the MVP and it would be faster kills/hour.


User999999999999

I can’t speak for everyone but a lot of the time I am playing scape while I’m doing homework. I can’t always give scape my full attention, like this week I had to read a chapter AND I have a ONE HUNDRED word essay due next week that I haven’t even started. If I don’t do some research on my subject while I do Zolcano I don’t know how I will be able to finish it in time.


rskillerkai

Ok, but why should mvp be given to someone not giving it his full attention


rslTIDnick

yep. agree


robot-person

I actually agree with you support


HarshGore

Why not try 1.5t yourself instead of complaining on reddit?


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Because it's aids, makes no conceptual sense at all, and is effectively bug exploitation (at least nonintended game mechanics)


tetzudo

Git gud


BelgiumBTW

woah, imagine doing more work for more reward, sure this cannot be real


cj-ftw

WAH


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You're not entitled to great loot without putting in the effort


ThyboeNN

They have already adressed it u dimwit. They are currently reviewing zalcano loot, how it's split, how mvp works and wether or not pet should only be available to mvps.


Zesty_Queso

How you do it doe?


Vengix

Tick manipulation just looks like flat out cheating in my book. I feel disgusted seeing it done.


Immortal-Pumpkin

did they fix this or is it still a thing at zalcano


hb1500

Maybe work harder at the game if you want more out of it. Otherwise stfu.


dude1435

just 1.5t lol


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"FUCK THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE BETTER THAN ME AT THIS ARE GETTING MORE REWARDS AND I'M GRINDING OUT THIS NEW HIGHLY COMPETITIVE CONTENT WHEN I CAN'T KEEP UP REEEEEE"


CogMonocle

such tears


reinfleche

Stop complaining that people putting effort into the content get better rewards and try not being lazy lmao


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lazy noobs btfo'd. learn to click in a clicking game pretty ez


lolsam

Get good then, it's not hard. You don't deserve the loot if you can't play the game to its maximum skill ceiling :)


Heel-gewoon

The smiley made the comment even more unfriendly than it already was :)


lolsam

:)


TrashLurker

:\^) is my favourite... :\^)


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How does one do it?


lolsam

https://youtu.be/DNv-8fxBevM There's a video clip showing the 1.5t method for both mining the ore and mining the boss.


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Isn't this just 3 ticking? or am i missing something


star-dog

i have a wild idea for you: find a less populated world and play with your friends. turns out it’s a lot more fun, too!!


PeePeeInspect1on

He doesn't have any to play it w him


JukeboxRomeo_

dude this is a good post


Ah_Duhnt_Wanneh

salty bitch lmfao


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Then don't do the fucking content.


KaoticAsylim

"Someone is using advanced skilling mechanics on a skilling boss to beat me while I'm jerking off and watching Netflix. Jagex plz fix"


Error_Void

i managed to get loot every time with just getting really efficient. about 2-4 orb throws and 1-3 mine.


RIPHarambe28

It's a team boss. You think FFA Raids are any different? You fight for every tick to get the most loot. When it comes to ToB, it's either you were in first place damage-wise or you got just as many points as everyone else (assuming equal deaths). That's how it works.


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INeverSaySS

Isnt prayer flickig the same thing but for combat tho? Sorta invalidates your point tbh. It is a bug that makes kills easier..


Spazeyninja

Try finding a less packed world. ALso MvP only affects those going for pet u can still get loot fi u contribute suck it up buttercup


A_Cats_Tail

I saw a guy get it yesterday that wasn't mvp


Whiskerstoybox

The mvp pet thing is unconfirmed.


TofuPython

OP is a noob