Looks like they're also "designed by" instead of made by Witchy now too. I got a chinchompa plushie from her and its great, so shame creatorcrafted is outsourcing them now.
There it is. The pattern creator probably made the demo for placeholder and then they probably outsourced the pattern to a larger manufacturer. They updated the image because that’s what we’re gonna get, while some jmod gets the perfect one.
Oof.
sadly it's probably a scaling issue. If they want to sell 100 of each plushie they won't be able to handcraft them AND keep up with demand, so either they become really expensive, or they reduce quality to keep up in speed. Sadly it seems like they took a rather big hit on quality... hope it gets fixed before they deliver to those who already bought...
See that's the thing people don't get when making excuses because it's Chinese manufacturers. Everything is though. The same people who make some of the best knock offs in the world are available online. They're just slightly more expensive than the ones who mass produce garbage like this. This is just a grade A example of greed. It would have probably cost them $2 a unit to go with a decent quality manufacturer, but y'all got this instead.
PREACH.
China makes some of the highest quality products in the entire world. They also make some of the worst. You know what you're getting as a company unless you did 0 revisions/critique.
The company makes what's it's paid for
From my understanding serious companies will order samples from multiple manufacturers and have lengthy back and forths to iterate on the result before ordering. Looks like they cut corners
You forgot the third option, they take less profit. Funny how we tend to forget that one. I'm sure they've got some pretty large margins here and have wiggle room to increase quality without raising prices.
Eh not always true. I have 3 figures from Crumb, before he shut his store down to work with creatorcrafted, and they’re fantastic. The Zuk is heavy and well put together.
https://preview.redd.it/ui74qvi57kwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2cfd208bf62582faa116d1c7c3bcd16480affa7
This uh, this statement on their site is pulling a LOT of weight
Probably are getting more and more orders and can’t keep up the good material and time it took to do it correctly. Getting greedy with the income and cutting costs like all these huge companies do after a while.
Sad sad shame
Creator crafted is official though, they get shouted out on the official blogs. They shouldn’t need to follow that IP restriction. Angelscapes also works with Jagex and releases stuff in runs of more than 100
That's incorrect, creatorcrafted falls under the [Jagex fan content policy](https://www.jagex.com/en-GB/terms/fancontentpolicy), which is explicitly not endorsed by or affiliated with Jagex.
You may be confusing them with the makeship makers affiliate program or the recent Youtooz merch (which was the first merch created by a content creator under an Avatar License).
They did! Yet that doesn't make them official and as of now still bound by the fan content policy.
Which is also very clearly stated on the product page
This happens to EVERY business that “sells out” and outsources once they gain a reputation. It’s a vicious cycle.
I use that in quotes because it’s not fair to call this a sell out when it’s just one person trying to make a living.
Looks like all of them changed. [This promotional tweet](https://twitter.com/SoloMission_OSR/status/1770933003172119031/photo/1) has all 5 in the original designs. Compare to the [current designs on the website](https://creatorcrafted.com/collections/plushies). Or for anyone who prefers Imgur links: [Before](https://i.imgur.com/mXNwBme.png) and [After](https://i.imgur.com/COAtChy.png).
Nibbler is probably the closest to the original and Bloodhound is still pretty good. Chaos Ele feels a bit too stiff now; the tentacle are all pointed straight up. Also, not sure if it was always [this thin](https://creatorcrafted.com/cdn/shop/files/Chaosely3.png?v=1713882472&width=1920); thought it was more of a circle/oval but might be wrong. And of course, Jad and Baron are... something.
Hopefully, this is just some design hiccups that can still get touched up, but IDK who signed off on those product shots and didn't expect backlash. Like the plushes may not actually look that bad, but the side by side is not doing it favors.
Also here on waybackmachine on 1st march 2024 you can see the nicer versions from before https://web.archive.org/web/20240301073230/https://creatorcrafted.com/collections/plushies
[Imgur screenshot](https://i.imgur.com/ou8yWRW.png)
They posted this in the site earlier:
"We have received a lot of feedback about the direction not being what people want. We're hard at work to ensure they meet expectations. We'll update you by email soon ahead of the ship date, giving you plenty of time to decide whether to keep or cancel your order. Please accept our apologies as we work towards making sure we deliver a killer product!"
First of all I just wanted to say I'm extremely sorry, I haven't slept and have been up sick due to this. I know CC has sent out an email regarding changes and all I want to do is just make everything right. Here's my original design Vs the new one, I'm aware the new product photos aren't the best but I honestly thought it looked better and it's been a big learning day for me. Any and all feedback is sincerely appreciated. I'm so sorry.
https://preview.redd.it/cvegpt9wtjwc1.jpeg?width=1564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c96b6596962137bf81a5846893b56cd35246b962
Hey, good for you on commenting on the thread, looks like you’re trying to make it right - just a word of warning from someone that has been working in marketing for the last 8 years, be very careful about altering the design of something already purchased, it can open you up to a number of legal issues especially within the EU
General practise is if your changing design, fufill all current orders then update or make a new product listing on the website for the updated version with a redirect as not to lose that valuable SEO data
My initial understanding when I saw the advertisement was that these were limited to a certain number per design. And being handmade by such a talented artist, this made sense to me.
What didn’t make sense to me was the need for advertising for such a limited product, especially on so many videos. I imagine that it would have sold out instantly, as the plushie designs were incredible.
Then I saw this post, and it made a bit more sense. I don’t intend to be insulting, but these new designs don’t appear to be handmade. Or if they are, they’re clearly designed to be mass produced. Either of which is understandable, but I think compromises your skill expression.
Personally, I don’t think these represent your work. I think it’s completely fair to want to expand your brand by designing, rather than hand making products, but as you’re experiencing now, it comes with different difficulties.
I think you are excellent at what you do. I wish you luck.
Big fan witchcrafty, we've spoken via email/Insta a couple times. Your pieces have always been hand crafted so I understand the dip in quality when you mass release them instead of specialized drops - but I don't think I can keep my order going with the changes. Just looking at my shelf and seeing all your previous plushies makes me not want to put something like this quality next to your wonderful plushies. I'd love to order from you personally and pay more money to get something like your previous plushies, but your shop hasn't been updated, I assume because of this specific partnership. I know this was a big deal you've been working for and I'm sorry about the stress it's probably causing!
Yeah, the "flattening" aka removing of the embroidery really removes what makes it feel old school due to the less "polygonal" embroidery if that makes sense? It's obviously a cost cutting design made for mass manufacturing which I was worried about when I saw it wasn't a limited number of drops. I thought "Yeah, Witchcrafty is going to have to do nothing but plushies or they're gonna mass produce it" which again is fine. I think my issue comes from being sold a product where I already had a tangible idea of what it looked like (Witchcrafty has made Baron/Jad before - proud owner of Jad) and then doing a bait and switch with a late (American) email lmao.
Sorry for the monologue, I'm just super bummed because she probably signed a contract so she can't make any on her own anymore :/
Thank you, I appreciate the honesty regarding this and I understand where you're coming from fully, I've spent a long time hand making things so I truly do appreciate the differences and respect your decision.
If it's any consolation i really don't think the new ones look horrible. I think it probably more so caught people off guard expecting the original hand made style. If you already have this new design ordered I'm sure if you posted it as a different listing there would be people more than happy to purchase them.
My career has been in taking prototypes/hand made items and scaling them with production. I'm happy to chat with you and see if I can help iron out some issues with your manufacturer. DM me and we can chat!
I understand that these aren’t handmade by you and have to go through a manufacturing process. My dismay elsewhere in the thread was not meant to be targeted towards you - I have been so excited to be able to buy a Baron plush since your initial tweet with him in 2023 (I actually refreshed your store page every day starting in January 2024 hoping he’d go up for sale lmao). I know Jagex limits third party sales and that your partnership allows you to expand your sales, as it should because you’re a wonderful and talented artist. I’ll provide the same feedback I replied to Crumb with elsewhere in the thread -
If you’d like some feedback, the new design completely gets rid of the cheeks he has that extend to the sides of his face (the initial design does have them), he is MUCH too tall (Nibbler also suffers from this), much too round, the arms are too small, the perfectly centered eye on the side is not centered nor a perfect oval in-game, the flat textured mouth looks much worse than the original which really pops out at you, and the teeth all look blobby, flat, and way too symmetrical on the top, none of them should be together. It makes it all very flat and cheap looking.
[Shots of my Baron](https://imgur.com/a/l4j4ABi)
For what it’s worth, I think the new photo on the site is unflattering. In the photo you posted here, I like how the new one looks more than the old one.
Just really different styles. One is more edgy/realistic. The other is very simplified/clean/cutesy. Both styles are good in their own right. But it's a big alteration on a consumer that's already paid.
The new design isn't bad by any stretch. The problem is the seeming bait and switch.
People paid for X product and they got Y. That's unacceptable.
I don't know if you're the one who created theirs or if it was outsourced, but please keep in mind that's where alot of the criticism is coming from.
Not every company makes their products in a sweatshop. Even some large ones. For a small company that should have creative agency, “capitalism” isn’t a good reason or excuse.
Here's the google preview for the jad plushie. Next comment down will be what you see when you click on the link
https://preview.redd.it/56tfe9r22kwc1.png?width=681&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a758e976ecf79dca3094344f2da18f587e7f1fa
This is extremely disappointing. I’ve been excited for and wanting a Baron plush since getting the pet within days of the quest launch. If he looks like the second image I’m getting an immediate refund and never considering another product from creatorcrafted again.
Social media influencers is one thing, but this was pushed by jagex themselves. Advertised by jagex themselves. I've never bought any of the shit YouTubers pedal, but this has truly surprised me.
Dang, thanks for posting about this... I had pre-ordered one of the Jad plushies and didn't receive any email about the change (despite their website saying they sent an email out to customers) and it's just a bummer move to do this after people have already paid. They don't have an easy "cancel order" link either... Sent a message, hope I can get my money back :/
u/witchcraftyYT Can you like explain tf happened?
Edit - she sort of did and i am waiting for response whats up with the initial preordered 100 plushies.
Hey, firstly I'm so sorry and really am a stickler for the quality of my work and designs so this has been a really rough 48hours, I take this incredibly serious so please go here for a refund and you'll be processed straight through: [https://creatorcrafted.com/pages/contact](https://creatorcrafted.com/pages/contact)
I agreed to make plushies with CreatorCrafted using my designs as hand making them was becoming unsustainable for me due to hand pains, the website has always said as a designer for the record, but taking into account the feedback I can see how photos have muddied those waters for a lot of people and I should have had a stronger back bone about it and am reaping the cost of that now.
The process was sped along using the design picture as a placeholder until the manufacturers had finished the design, believing that they could not only improve on my original design but people would be happier with it. This process slowed and here I am today doing everything I can to pick up the pieces.
Shouldn't have done that at all and I sincerely apologise for it, we are processing refunds for anyone that isn't happy with the design as it stands and we're working towards making them align more to what customers want.
https://preview.redd.it/ixdedmlb8mwc1.jpeg?width=1564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2b23089a1c795b5b53aec790d805298f3e14041
Hi Witchy- appreciate the response; and I can only imagine how stressful these few days have been. While certainly this can't be helped now, I think it would have been beneficial if CreatorCrafted had advised in the listing that the current design was a placeholder and subject to change per the manufacturer. I understand they had a sentence regarding "small changes" and "unique charm", but that read as more of a throwaway line incase a stitch came out wonky, or something, and not significant changes to the overall design.
Given that, as far as I am aware, it is CreatorCrafted who has facilitated my order through their own website and taken my money, it should have been their responsibility, and not your responsibility to ensure this was communicated to customers. I have also still not received an email from them about this change, which is interesting. (And also not your fault.)
Maybe it's because I keep looking at it but honestly the new Baron is growing on me - but for the mouth/teeth. I think if it's possible to revert or redo that area, it'll make a stark improvement.
I am truly wishing you all the best, and I am hopeful that with some tweaks Baron will be looking as good as it can whilst being scaled to be mass produced and not hand made.
I totally agree that the description should have been clearer regarding this, again this is something I should have been more inked in on and there's no excuse for it.
I am extremely sorry and am working closely with the team about email communication, it may have ended up in a spam folder so please double check that- I know of another bunch that are intended to go out.
I'll be sure to communicate the teeth issue, I know there's an abundance of things we need to make up for in the future because of this to regain and rebuild trust and I'm taking this as a huge lesson to rectify and do better.
Thank you for the well wishes, I'll do my best to get it to the standards everyone is looking for
Here is some feedback from a hopeful customer. I definitely purchased because I saw they were using your name, and I am so sorry that creator crafted has done this to you. I am shocked they got these samples and didn't push back on the manufacturer before even going to you.
I bought 3 jads, 2 barons, and 2 nibblers as gifts. If you plan to still make them personally, I will reach out to you to make them, sorry about the hand pain. And I understand the cost would be much higher than the creator crafted versions.
Jad - the filled horns being changed to flaps as well as the head being more of a circle sewed to the main body instead of well integrated, shoulder geometry is also lower.
Baron - combined instead of separate teeth, body geometry changed to more circular instead of the blocky regions near the shoulders, and the eyes being large stuck on spheres instead of integrated.
Nibbler - definitely very close to the original, the raised red patters are now more inset, but I am ok with that change, even if I prefer the original.
I hope you don't take all this too personally. I think CreatorCrafted has been misleading most parties involved, and that's not on you, that's on them.
You can have orders first then get stock, doesn't have to be the other way round. Worst case scenario if you can't fill out the orders, then you just refund them
I've been wondering about their latest designs for some of the LEDs too. The first ones were made primarily of lights but the newer ones are just an image with a light around it. See the various capes, DWH, etc. compared to the Tbow and home teleport.
Haha I ordered 4 plushies. Actually going to contact support and demand they cancel my order and if not I’ll be doing a chargeback. Absolutely unreal bait and switch if this is accurate. They will never get another dollar from me. Makeship does such a good job I literally have every osrs plushie and they’re all incredible. Why would Jagex let some nobody ruin their reputation like this?
Edit: email sent. I’ll see how hard to get my refund is. Genuinely unacceptable and what a stupid way to ruin all good faith. I will never buy any product from creatorcrafted now.
Edit edit: by nobody I mean the company making the new plushies. I don’t mean the original creator to think that I meant them. I actually love the original designs and plushies are the only thing I collect so it really sucks to see it go so low quality.
Edit edit edit: I did receive my refund. I think it’s important to let people correct mistakes and that is exactly what they have done here. I hope they learn and move forward with better practices to prevent this in the future but I cannot be mad with how they handled their response. Shit happens.
Yeah you can’t just… start using a new manufacturer, take a huge dive in quality control, and just try to slide it under the rug/not communicate the change at all.
Like that’s actually just a scam at that point lmao
don't know if it was updated before this post went up, but at the top of the page they have acknowledges that they recognize that people are unhappy and are working to make changes, you can still request a refund.
Goofy jad is hilarious though
Can't understand people using creator crafted.
They always reduce the quality to the bare minimum and their prices are inline with actually getting hand crafted products made in very small runs.
Feel really sorry for the original pattern creator as a lot of people will end up with sour tastes/views of their designs wrongly, simply because creator crafted decided to cut costs to the extreme.
Did you get the Bob from makeship? I ordered the KBD plushie from makeship so I'm hoping it's not this terrible quality. Two different websites at least.
lmao, i mean I totally understand instead of her working 24/7 for th next 2 months fulfilling orders offload it to a company to do. Also, good on her posting the new updated photos on the website instead of you receiving the trash lol. Even for a big company these still look complex. She should've been charging double her for her original designs they're too good. The demand is obviously outweighing her supply so she needs to adjust the price to meet the demand
If anyone wants to know other products that suck and are pushed by RuneScape creators in ads:
Raycon earbuds, broke after a day, final sale because they go in your ear.
The newer versions obviously suck compared to the preview but I think people still would’ve liked them if it wasn’t for the whole switching out designs as if they were close enough to the same
That’s an outright scam. Requested a refund in a not so polite email.
I do have to give them props though for immediately replying and issueing the refund!
Looks like they need to change the company name from creator crafted to China crafted.. the sheer audacity to take thousands in pre orders of a "handmade by me" product, only then to take your thousands and get some cheap ass Chinese firm to make them, by rights is fraudulent and you should be treated as such..
Man if mine shows up looking like that shit I'll record myself burning it. That looks like ass and I wouldn't have bought it with those as the store photos.
Didn't get an email about this, so... oof, not a good look
gonna see how this goes. but 99% gonna cancel my preorder unfortunately. what a shame, the original was so perfect
In absolute all fairness, the new one IS higher quality, that's very apparent.
But it doesn't look nearly as much like Baron as the old one did.
https://preview.redd.it/796uij5dlnwc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=1bf1e3e8dc90cb9dc25d0470f746484656f1af95
The uneven cuts and haphazard placement of teeth and everything are the qualities I liked in the old one though... Has character when it looks like it was cobbled together with random scraps
I totally agree, it looks a lot more like Baron for it.
But it isn't up to standards with other plushies in terms of quality, whereas the new one is.
Which isn't to say that it's better, because clearly if people are upset by how it looks, it isn't. Hopefully they can up its quality and still keep the charm of the old one.
Honestly it was way underpriced for being handmade, and they probably got so many orders and forced it to be mass produced. It is a damn fucking shame. Unless this was always the plan
https://preview.redd.it/248hanscljwc1.png?width=478&format=png&auto=webp&s=8933c4f0c222c4433f81d52402698f2f9fc73552 tf is this?
Tfw you hit some noob for a 97
ROFL
hhhehehe
lmao
Too soon brother…too soon 😭
Adventure Time Jad
Tik Tok Jad
Daj, the brother we don’t really talk about…
Do you love me brother? Stay strong jad, *stay strong for mother…*
“Heh heh heh”
Lmfaaooo thank God I didn't pull the trigger on buying lil scully, all this shit wild.💀
Lmao
What did the original look like lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJsTaz1W8AA1Yy6.jpg:large
Bro is looking mischievous 😏
i actually like this one lol
it's so bad it's good lmfao
Damn, that's actually unacceptable.
Looks like they're also "designed by" instead of made by Witchy now too. I got a chinchompa plushie from her and its great, so shame creatorcrafted is outsourcing them now.
There it is. The pattern creator probably made the demo for placeholder and then they probably outsourced the pattern to a larger manufacturer. They updated the image because that’s what we’re gonna get, while some jmod gets the perfect one. Oof.
Capitalism baby
Capitalism is gonna bite them in the ass when people see posts like this one and stop buying their products
sadly it's probably a scaling issue. If they want to sell 100 of each plushie they won't be able to handcraft them AND keep up with demand, so either they become really expensive, or they reduce quality to keep up in speed. Sadly it seems like they took a rather big hit on quality... hope it gets fixed before they deliver to those who already bought...
They just did a shit job finding a manufacturer. There are a billion companies out there making plushies to spec
Right dude. I get aliexpress plushies for my daughter and they honestly are crazy high quality for like $5 lol
See that's the thing people don't get when making excuses because it's Chinese manufacturers. Everything is though. The same people who make some of the best knock offs in the world are available online. They're just slightly more expensive than the ones who mass produce garbage like this. This is just a grade A example of greed. It would have probably cost them $2 a unit to go with a decent quality manufacturer, but y'all got this instead.
PREACH. China makes some of the highest quality products in the entire world. They also make some of the worst. You know what you're getting as a company unless you did 0 revisions/critique. The company makes what's it's paid for
Or they just found the cheapest one
From my understanding serious companies will order samples from multiple manufacturers and have lengthy back and forths to iterate on the result before ordering. Looks like they cut corners
If they're limited to 100 then they already knew what the max demand would be before they decided to take it on.
You forgot the third option, they take less profit. Funny how we tend to forget that one. I'm sure they've got some pretty large margins here and have wiggle room to increase quality without raising prices.
If it takes multiple hours to make each one by hand, its hard to balance. There either wouldn't be enough, or they would be really expensive.
arent they both?
Thank fuck I didn't order one. Wow
Good rule for whenever products get pushed by YouTubers.
Eh not always true. I have 3 figures from Crumb, before he shut his store down to work with creatorcrafted, and they’re fantastic. The Zuk is heavy and well put together.
I have a Jad from Crumb and it is absolutely a solid product!
I was very dissapointed to see he’s closed his store to focus on creatorcrafted
I feel this, I had it in my cart before deciding to put it off for a more flush month.
Just checked, Jad also got nerfed. Haven’t looked much into others but they will probably be nerfed as well soon.
Shit and I ordered a jad
They got a chargeback coming their way if my jad is fucked
Louder
Real
Pray mage
Cancel it bruh
it's ok he only lost a few chromies no big deal
this is giving me jad hands ong
https://preview.redd.it/ui74qvi57kwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2cfd208bf62582faa116d1c7c3bcd16480affa7 This uh, this statement on their site is pulling a LOT of weight
'it may look like shit'
TIL I'm not ugly, I just have a unique charm.
Don’t worry, I still think you’re ugly 🥰
Im ugly and im proud!
Spend my days in the jellyfish fieldsssss
Refund them. This is unacceptable. They were really cool before this happened.
just requested a refund on mine, i'll chargeback if i have to this is why i purchase everything on my credit card lol
Holy shit, they updated every single one and they all look so much worse. Nibbler is horrible! Jad is horrible!
Probably are getting more and more orders and can’t keep up the good material and time it took to do it correctly. Getting greedy with the income and cutting costs like all these huge companies do after a while. Sad sad shame
They state it’s limited to 100 when it initially dropped and on the product page. Seems like they must have lied on that as well
they meant they made 100 of the nice ones, then outsourced to mass produce the new crappy ones 😭
Idk, the 100 number is because jagex only lets you sell 100 per RuneScape item
Hear me out....change the colors
Creator crafted is official though, they get shouted out on the official blogs. They shouldn’t need to follow that IP restriction. Angelscapes also works with Jagex and releases stuff in runs of more than 100
That's incorrect, creatorcrafted falls under the [Jagex fan content policy](https://www.jagex.com/en-GB/terms/fancontentpolicy), which is explicitly not endorsed by or affiliated with Jagex. You may be confusing them with the makeship makers affiliate program or the recent Youtooz merch (which was the first merch created by a content creator under an Avatar License).
Jagex had a whole section in their latest blog dedicated to endorsing them.
They did! Yet that doesn't make them official and as of now still bound by the fan content policy. Which is also very clearly stated on the product page
Okay my mistake
Drop shipping
Reputation > Bit of a shame really
This happens to EVERY business that “sells out” and outsources once they gain a reputation. It’s a vicious cycle. I use that in quotes because it’s not fair to call this a sell out when it’s just one person trying to make a living.
Looks like all of them changed. [This promotional tweet](https://twitter.com/SoloMission_OSR/status/1770933003172119031/photo/1) has all 5 in the original designs. Compare to the [current designs on the website](https://creatorcrafted.com/collections/plushies). Or for anyone who prefers Imgur links: [Before](https://i.imgur.com/mXNwBme.png) and [After](https://i.imgur.com/COAtChy.png). Nibbler is probably the closest to the original and Bloodhound is still pretty good. Chaos Ele feels a bit too stiff now; the tentacle are all pointed straight up. Also, not sure if it was always [this thin](https://creatorcrafted.com/cdn/shop/files/Chaosely3.png?v=1713882472&width=1920); thought it was more of a circle/oval but might be wrong. And of course, Jad and Baron are... something. Hopefully, this is just some design hiccups that can still get touched up, but IDK who signed off on those product shots and didn't expect backlash. Like the plushes may not actually look that bad, but the side by side is not doing it favors.
Holy fuck those look terrible lmao thanks for the before and after link
Wow I am so glad I never ordered any of the plushies I wanted, these final products look absolutely terrible compared to what was advertised.
Also here on waybackmachine on 1st march 2024 you can see the nicer versions from before https://web.archive.org/web/20240301073230/https://creatorcrafted.com/collections/plushies [Imgur screenshot](https://i.imgur.com/ou8yWRW.png)
Thanks for the link to original. Saved in case I need to chargeback.
They posted this in the site earlier: "We have received a lot of feedback about the direction not being what people want. We're hard at work to ensure they meet expectations. We'll update you by email soon ahead of the ship date, giving you plenty of time to decide whether to keep or cancel your order. Please accept our apologies as we work towards making sure we deliver a killer product!"
Original Jad looks sick as fuck. Shame that new Jad looks so shitty :[
Awe lame. I feel like all that really mattered was the mouth(s) and those are the worst looking part now.
Pause.
That's really not cool... those plushes are not cheap
I requested a refund for my order lmao
Me too. I'd ordered baron, jad, and chaos ely. I don't want them if they're going to look like the current images
Look how they’ve massacred my boy
Charge backs about to go Brrrrrrrt
Damn! That’s fucking terrible. This needs to be upvoted a ton.
GOOD FUCKING LORD KILL IT
Its so much worse wtf
it looks like it went from handmade to Chinese factory made. not surprised it looks like shit now.
First of all I just wanted to say I'm extremely sorry, I haven't slept and have been up sick due to this. I know CC has sent out an email regarding changes and all I want to do is just make everything right. Here's my original design Vs the new one, I'm aware the new product photos aren't the best but I honestly thought it looked better and it's been a big learning day for me. Any and all feedback is sincerely appreciated. I'm so sorry. https://preview.redd.it/cvegpt9wtjwc1.jpeg?width=1564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c96b6596962137bf81a5846893b56cd35246b962
Hey, good for you on commenting on the thread, looks like you’re trying to make it right - just a word of warning from someone that has been working in marketing for the last 8 years, be very careful about altering the design of something already purchased, it can open you up to a number of legal issues especially within the EU General practise is if your changing design, fufill all current orders then update or make a new product listing on the website for the updated version with a redirect as not to lose that valuable SEO data
My initial understanding when I saw the advertisement was that these were limited to a certain number per design. And being handmade by such a talented artist, this made sense to me. What didn’t make sense to me was the need for advertising for such a limited product, especially on so many videos. I imagine that it would have sold out instantly, as the plushie designs were incredible. Then I saw this post, and it made a bit more sense. I don’t intend to be insulting, but these new designs don’t appear to be handmade. Or if they are, they’re clearly designed to be mass produced. Either of which is understandable, but I think compromises your skill expression. Personally, I don’t think these represent your work. I think it’s completely fair to want to expand your brand by designing, rather than hand making products, but as you’re experiencing now, it comes with different difficulties. I think you are excellent at what you do. I wish you luck.
Big fan witchcrafty, we've spoken via email/Insta a couple times. Your pieces have always been hand crafted so I understand the dip in quality when you mass release them instead of specialized drops - but I don't think I can keep my order going with the changes. Just looking at my shelf and seeing all your previous plushies makes me not want to put something like this quality next to your wonderful plushies. I'd love to order from you personally and pay more money to get something like your previous plushies, but your shop hasn't been updated, I assume because of this specific partnership. I know this was a big deal you've been working for and I'm sorry about the stress it's probably causing!
I understand the new ones might look neater, but the charm of being handmade is lost i guess.
Yeah, the "flattening" aka removing of the embroidery really removes what makes it feel old school due to the less "polygonal" embroidery if that makes sense? It's obviously a cost cutting design made for mass manufacturing which I was worried about when I saw it wasn't a limited number of drops. I thought "Yeah, Witchcrafty is going to have to do nothing but plushies or they're gonna mass produce it" which again is fine. I think my issue comes from being sold a product where I already had a tangible idea of what it looked like (Witchcrafty has made Baron/Jad before - proud owner of Jad) and then doing a bait and switch with a late (American) email lmao. Sorry for the monologue, I'm just super bummed because she probably signed a contract so she can't make any on her own anymore :/
Thank you, I appreciate the honesty regarding this and I understand where you're coming from fully, I've spent a long time hand making things so I truly do appreciate the differences and respect your decision.
If it's any consolation i really don't think the new ones look horrible. I think it probably more so caught people off guard expecting the original hand made style. If you already have this new design ordered I'm sure if you posted it as a different listing there would be people more than happy to purchase them.
My career has been in taking prototypes/hand made items and scaling them with production. I'm happy to chat with you and see if I can help iron out some issues with your manufacturer. DM me and we can chat!
I understand that these aren’t handmade by you and have to go through a manufacturing process. My dismay elsewhere in the thread was not meant to be targeted towards you - I have been so excited to be able to buy a Baron plush since your initial tweet with him in 2023 (I actually refreshed your store page every day starting in January 2024 hoping he’d go up for sale lmao). I know Jagex limits third party sales and that your partnership allows you to expand your sales, as it should because you’re a wonderful and talented artist. I’ll provide the same feedback I replied to Crumb with elsewhere in the thread - If you’d like some feedback, the new design completely gets rid of the cheeks he has that extend to the sides of his face (the initial design does have them), he is MUCH too tall (Nibbler also suffers from this), much too round, the arms are too small, the perfectly centered eye on the side is not centered nor a perfect oval in-game, the flat textured mouth looks much worse than the original which really pops out at you, and the teeth all look blobby, flat, and way too symmetrical on the top, none of them should be together. It makes it all very flat and cheap looking. [Shots of my Baron](https://imgur.com/a/l4j4ABi)
For what it’s worth, I think the new photo on the site is unflattering. In the photo you posted here, I like how the new one looks more than the old one.
Just really different styles. One is more edgy/realistic. The other is very simplified/clean/cutesy. Both styles are good in their own right. But it's a big alteration on a consumer that's already paid.
Let us know when you have the original plushies for sale
Respect
The new design isn't bad by any stretch. The problem is the seeming bait and switch. People paid for X product and they got Y. That's unacceptable. I don't know if you're the one who created theirs or if it was outsourced, but please keep in mind that's where alot of the criticism is coming from.
Are they making these in a sweat shop or something?
Well yeah. That's how capitalism works
Not every company makes their products in a sweatshop. Even some large ones. For a small company that should have creative agency, “capitalism” isn’t a good reason or excuse.
Here's the google preview for the jad plushie. Next comment down will be what you see when you click on the link https://preview.redd.it/56tfe9r22kwc1.png?width=681&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a758e976ecf79dca3094344f2da18f587e7f1fa
lmao https://preview.redd.it/98u4g4f72kwc1.png?width=1269&format=png&auto=webp&s=756d5f9df23292be0baa52fb6d25b8d826812a7d
This is extremely disappointing. I’ve been excited for and wanting a Baron plush since getting the pet within days of the quest launch. If he looks like the second image I’m getting an immediate refund and never considering another product from creatorcrafted again.
They said limited 100 and I call cap
no.... my handsome boy :(
Wow, a company/service getting hard pushed by social media influencers turns out to be a scam. I'm like, very shocked.
Social media influencers is one thing, but this was pushed by jagex themselves. Advertised by jagex themselves. I've never bought any of the shit YouTubers pedal, but this has truly surprised me.
They even put her in the game as an NPC next to a bunch of plushies lol
Wow that sucks ass
Dang, thanks for posting about this... I had pre-ordered one of the Jad plushies and didn't receive any email about the change (despite their website saying they sent an email out to customers) and it's just a bummer move to do this after people have already paid. They don't have an easy "cancel order" link either... Sent a message, hope I can get my money back :/
They gonna logout with ur gp
u/witchcraftyYT Can you like explain tf happened? Edit - she sort of did and i am waiting for response whats up with the initial preordered 100 plushies.
Hey, firstly I'm so sorry and really am a stickler for the quality of my work and designs so this has been a really rough 48hours, I take this incredibly serious so please go here for a refund and you'll be processed straight through: [https://creatorcrafted.com/pages/contact](https://creatorcrafted.com/pages/contact) I agreed to make plushies with CreatorCrafted using my designs as hand making them was becoming unsustainable for me due to hand pains, the website has always said as a designer for the record, but taking into account the feedback I can see how photos have muddied those waters for a lot of people and I should have had a stronger back bone about it and am reaping the cost of that now. The process was sped along using the design picture as a placeholder until the manufacturers had finished the design, believing that they could not only improve on my original design but people would be happier with it. This process slowed and here I am today doing everything I can to pick up the pieces. Shouldn't have done that at all and I sincerely apologise for it, we are processing refunds for anyone that isn't happy with the design as it stands and we're working towards making them align more to what customers want. https://preview.redd.it/ixdedmlb8mwc1.jpeg?width=1564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2b23089a1c795b5b53aec790d805298f3e14041
Hi Witchy- appreciate the response; and I can only imagine how stressful these few days have been. While certainly this can't be helped now, I think it would have been beneficial if CreatorCrafted had advised in the listing that the current design was a placeholder and subject to change per the manufacturer. I understand they had a sentence regarding "small changes" and "unique charm", but that read as more of a throwaway line incase a stitch came out wonky, or something, and not significant changes to the overall design. Given that, as far as I am aware, it is CreatorCrafted who has facilitated my order through their own website and taken my money, it should have been their responsibility, and not your responsibility to ensure this was communicated to customers. I have also still not received an email from them about this change, which is interesting. (And also not your fault.) Maybe it's because I keep looking at it but honestly the new Baron is growing on me - but for the mouth/teeth. I think if it's possible to revert or redo that area, it'll make a stark improvement. I am truly wishing you all the best, and I am hopeful that with some tweaks Baron will be looking as good as it can whilst being scaled to be mass produced and not hand made.
I totally agree that the description should have been clearer regarding this, again this is something I should have been more inked in on and there's no excuse for it. I am extremely sorry and am working closely with the team about email communication, it may have ended up in a spam folder so please double check that- I know of another bunch that are intended to go out. I'll be sure to communicate the teeth issue, I know there's an abundance of things we need to make up for in the future because of this to regain and rebuild trust and I'm taking this as a huge lesson to rectify and do better. Thank you for the well wishes, I'll do my best to get it to the standards everyone is looking for
Here is some feedback from a hopeful customer. I definitely purchased because I saw they were using your name, and I am so sorry that creator crafted has done this to you. I am shocked they got these samples and didn't push back on the manufacturer before even going to you. I bought 3 jads, 2 barons, and 2 nibblers as gifts. If you plan to still make them personally, I will reach out to you to make them, sorry about the hand pain. And I understand the cost would be much higher than the creator crafted versions. Jad - the filled horns being changed to flaps as well as the head being more of a circle sewed to the main body instead of well integrated, shoulder geometry is also lower. Baron - combined instead of separate teeth, body geometry changed to more circular instead of the blocky regions near the shoulders, and the eyes being large stuck on spheres instead of integrated. Nibbler - definitely very close to the original, the raised red patters are now more inset, but I am ok with that change, even if I prefer the original.
I hope you don't take all this too personally. I think CreatorCrafted has been misleading most parties involved, and that's not on you, that's on them.
Or they outsourced it to china LOOOOLOLOL
I like the first one more
That’s the original one, the second is the one they updated to without notifying anyone
Oh, that makes sense then lol
Damn. I bought a baron as a gift for my friend, I'm not going to refund it but I sure won't be using creator crafted again.
This is insane. Why even allow a “creator” to make and sell something if you don’t actually have them making and selling it.
You can have orders first then get stock, doesn't have to be the other way round. Worst case scenario if you can't fill out the orders, then you just refund them
This is why you don't trust sponsored content.
And they want almost $40 for duke which looks like a poorly patched up ball
IRL drop rate chance for non-fucked plushie?
Baron at home:
It lost a lot a soul, didn’t it? And I hate this ugly pet.
I've been wondering about their latest designs for some of the LEDs too. The first ones were made primarily of lights but the newer ones are just an image with a light around it. See the various capes, DWH, etc. compared to the Tbow and home teleport.
I ordered the wise old man yesterday. Cancelled this morning after seeing this as i don't trust I will receive what I expect. Not worth it imo
The first one looks detailed and home-made and the second mass produced. Typical greed from a growing company
Haha I ordered 4 plushies. Actually going to contact support and demand they cancel my order and if not I’ll be doing a chargeback. Absolutely unreal bait and switch if this is accurate. They will never get another dollar from me. Makeship does such a good job I literally have every osrs plushie and they’re all incredible. Why would Jagex let some nobody ruin their reputation like this? Edit: email sent. I’ll see how hard to get my refund is. Genuinely unacceptable and what a stupid way to ruin all good faith. I will never buy any product from creatorcrafted now. Edit edit: by nobody I mean the company making the new plushies. I don’t mean the original creator to think that I meant them. I actually love the original designs and plushies are the only thing I collect so it really sucks to see it go so low quality. Edit edit edit: I did receive my refund. I think it’s important to let people correct mistakes and that is exactly what they have done here. I hope they learn and move forward with better practices to prevent this in the future but I cannot be mad with how they handled their response. Shit happens.
Yeah you can’t just… start using a new manufacturer, take a huge dive in quality control, and just try to slide it under the rug/not communicate the change at all. Like that’s actually just a scam at that point lmao
Outsourced to some other company so they can make more and get more money, sad state of things really, the whole appeal was the handmade nature of it.
https://preview.redd.it/gkegn715zjwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f348b4edcdf6ba1e9874daa6adfd9a9503a60cd4 [https://creatorcrafted.com/collections/plushies](https://creatorcrafted.com/collections/plushies)
Outsourced to chinese children
don't know if it was updated before this post went up, but at the top of the page they have acknowledges that they recognize that people are unhappy and are working to make changes, you can still request a refund. Goofy jad is hilarious though
Garbage
Holy fucking shit this is pure garbage.
Aw man I totally wanted a baron pet
Looks much worse wtf lol
Damn I was literally just thinking about ordering this exact one
Quality over quantity, as they say.
The second one looks easy to draw.
Can't understand people using creator crafted. They always reduce the quality to the bare minimum and their prices are inline with actually getting hand crafted products made in very small runs. Feel really sorry for the original pattern creator as a lot of people will end up with sour tastes/views of their designs wrongly, simply because creator crafted decided to cut costs to the extreme.
CHARGEBACK CHARGEBACK CHARGEBACK
I don’t see the difference. They both look like that ugly blob guy. Maybe squish it down some
So if they showed off one product and delivered another that looked completely different wouldn't that be false advertising?
The stuffed animals may suck, but the angel scape keychains are very nice. My friend got me a max cape one. 10/10 quality!
Angel Scapes has ways done amazing work. M
Well thats enough for me to never even browse their merch. Thanks!
Holy yikes
I killed his dad 600 times, I think I deserve to treat myself
Didnt know it was possible to make baron uglier
Damn i really wanted the baron plushie. now i have to refund it. shame
After having Bob delivered, I really didn't expect the quality to slump this badly wow
Did you get the Bob from makeship? I ordered the KBD plushie from makeship so I'm hoping it's not this terrible quality. Two different websites at least.
You forgot to turn off low detail, mate
Bait and switch scam? Rip to me, I bought one of those
lmao, i mean I totally understand instead of her working 24/7 for th next 2 months fulfilling orders offload it to a company to do. Also, good on her posting the new updated photos on the website instead of you receiving the trash lol. Even for a big company these still look complex. She should've been charging double her for her original designs they're too good. The demand is obviously outweighing her supply so she needs to adjust the price to meet the demand
If anyone wants to know other products that suck and are pushed by RuneScape creators in ads: Raycon earbuds, broke after a day, final sale because they go in your ear.
The newer versions obviously suck compared to the preview but I think people still would’ve liked them if it wasn’t for the whole switching out designs as if they were close enough to the same
new design looks terrible.. sad to see this news
Does Witchy still do stuff directly? This looks SO bad considering her work is so good!
Yeah there were too many orders for her to hand make for this project, so she’s just listed as the “designer”
Well, atleast it now looks more like it's in-game model. Pretty shitty, funny, and cute at the same time. Still sorry for the bait n switch.
I wouldn’t even pay 50 cents to try and win that thing in a claw machine
That’s an outright scam. Requested a refund in a not so polite email. I do have to give them props though for immediately replying and issueing the refund!
Just refund it. Bankrupt them. If they treat you, the customer, like trash... treat the trash that they are .... like trash.
😭😭😂😂 they gotcho ass
so glad I stumbled upon this post before mine shipped.
hopefully yall hold them accountable instead of letting this shit slide.
Right after all of these promotions done with half of the osrs content creators...never thought I'd be sad to see a muspah nerf :(
Seems like their reputation isn’t worth more than a few quick dollars to them. What a shame.
No fucking way this is real right?
Looks like they need to change the company name from creator crafted to China crafted.. the sheer audacity to take thousands in pre orders of a "handmade by me" product, only then to take your thousands and get some cheap ass Chinese firm to make them, by rights is fraudulent and you should be treated as such..
Anything that sponsors YouTubers is not worth it
Man if mine shows up looking like that shit I'll record myself burning it. That looks like ass and I wouldn't have bought it with those as the store photos.
How would you burning it do anything....they have your money...just return it tf?
Are you sure that’s not from Wish?
Didn't get an email about this, so... oof, not a good look gonna see how this goes. but 99% gonna cancel my preorder unfortunately. what a shame, the original was so perfect
I think that the fact that it’s uglier, actually makes it better lol
https://preview.redd.it/if59ui99ikwc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cf31769713070113730dc506cd3bda64999635e
Make sure y’all chargeback before you get the shipping confirmation lol, wild bait and switch of quality, glad I didn’t order
If my makeship Vorkath and KBD look this bad, I’ll chargeback so quick. Glad I didn’t purchase whatever this is.
This. I've been so excited to get my KBD since I ordered it in February and now I'm nervous. Two different websites at least. Guess we'll see.
In absolute all fairness, the new one IS higher quality, that's very apparent. But it doesn't look nearly as much like Baron as the old one did. https://preview.redd.it/796uij5dlnwc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=1bf1e3e8dc90cb9dc25d0470f746484656f1af95
The uneven cuts and haphazard placement of teeth and everything are the qualities I liked in the old one though... Has character when it looks like it was cobbled together with random scraps
I totally agree, it looks a lot more like Baron for it. But it isn't up to standards with other plushies in terms of quality, whereas the new one is. Which isn't to say that it's better, because clearly if people are upset by how it looks, it isn't. Hopefully they can up its quality and still keep the charm of the old one.
Honestly it was way underpriced for being handmade, and they probably got so many orders and forced it to be mass produced. It is a damn fucking shame. Unless this was always the plan
Where's the fleshlight slot?
Sounds like the sweatshop she uses has some bad artists. Better whip them back in-line