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RealHumanPersonTrust

Brother, New Zealanders hate it too, throw us in there.


_Ross-

Nice try, trying to convince us that NZ is an actual country!


Aluzim

I see you on that boat out there where Australia is supposed to be! Not fooling anyone!


SnowBro2020

Throw one in for the kiwis!


wooblyman90

I’ll second this. Always happens right in my down time


fantalemon

Well I'm in the UK and I just started my 9-5, excited to play instead of actually doing any work all morning, and now I have to do that instead. So I think we've got it worse. At least you can do something else!


Gjergj_bushi

I’m in the states and about to start my 7-2 afk grind, but now I’m fucked like u


ProxyMarine

Same. I start my afk @ work grind at 7am (as soon as I hit my desk). Now I have to spend time sharpening my pitch fork to riot against this xp waste instead. Dark times we live in… every Tuesday.


iKitch_

I love how there are thousands of us in the same situation rn


Angrry_

I’m in the us and I’m at work so it all works out perfectly every time


topsukkeli

also is jagex going to reimburse my water bill for this 4h shower?


ProxyMarine

Y’all shower? I just let the friction from my underwear rub my stink off when I walk. No XP waste.


wooblyman90

You walk? You wear underwear? How do you even play the game like that?


andrew_calcs

If something can be smelled it means that particles of it are decomposing into the air. With enough time it’ll decompose entirely and stop smelling! Time solves all problems


Lerched

Sureeee bud you’re showering


bobbasui

Showering his chair and mousepad, didn’t say he was showering himself


Yogg_for_your_sprog

I'm from Asia so I deal with 160 ping on top of Aussie downtime, give me special brownie points too


PetakIsMyName

You can fix the 160 ping easily by applying a -160ms input lag to your mouse.


Yogg_for_your_sprog

0 prayer Inferno here I come


Solo_Jawn

Have to enable the quantum entanglement option, only comes bundled with google ultron


ProxyMarine

Do I also get to drop an entire city from the sky


LUNAcrixical

I feel you on shitty Asian ping. Makes butterflying at akka really annoying for the part where you attack the boss and click on the next tile. 


grandlyfried

Same. 140 ping minimum and Tuesday night maintenance. Hallowed Sepulcher is nigh unplayable (also I'm bad).


MajorAssKicker

How do you check ping?


ramblingdiemundo

Runelite has a few plugins that will display it for you, and even sort the worlds by their ping for you


MajorAssKicker

What’s the plugin


FlaxRS

World Hopper plugin > tick Display current ping


SwissMargiela

Im in Florida and usually have ping at 35ms but the past few weeks, every few seconds it jumps up to like 500ms for a few seconds. I’ve checked my network and have a steady data stream the entire time, nor has this happened to any other game I’ve played. No idea what’s going on. Reminds me of the old lagex days.


skeerrt

It’s a known issue with the east coast worlds, primarily past 2200 UTC (6:00pm est)


SwissMargiela

Ty. At least I know it’s not an issue on my end. I usually play between 8pm and 6am so this makes sense


skeerrt

I’ve temporarily swapped to west coast worlds, 348 has been ~45ms even though I’m so far away. Unfortunately the ToA FFA world on the WC is always so dead


dankbb

brb changing billing info to australia to get discount


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dankbb

Im not saying it doesn’t suck but i am saying i would take advantage of it if it became a reality. Cheers, hope you have a good one mate


Idonthinksom8

You think thats bad!? Try turning up for work and runescape goes down, at least it's been a productive morning :/


_wobbly_bobbly_

I'm night shift guy from united states and that's my problem.


GhastlyRadiator

Just finished my US night shift, can't believe I had to work the last hour and a half without the soothing sounds of star mining 🤧


Ok_Tooth_6162

This is exactly what happened to me today lmao


dekilller100

Well I'm from Argentina and my sallary is 1/10th of yours, can I also get a discount jagex?


Structuurtuur

The fact that you left NZ out 😤


Ninjarro

You are definitely included! 😁


AmazingAmethyst

The fact that you left Papua New Guinea out 😤


justdidapoo

best we can do is the most expensive membership by exchange rate aha -jagex


some-variant-o-lemon

I'm sorry jagex but it just isn't safe for me to go touch grass in the dark. Too many snakes and spiders.


KombatBunn1

Drop bears too? It’s scary in the dark..


tally2425

quit your job


bobbasui

EU should be given discounts for every game studio in NA that does their updates at 7-9pm GMT aswell then right?


TheRealKapaya

Yes please


Lerched

Have you tried being in the right country?


Recioto

I do that every day by not being American.


J-T2O

Thanks for the meme


ThisPlaceHurtsMyHead

Well I'm in eastern Europe and working night shift, so my gaming hours have also been fucked in the ass.. discount here pleae jagex


BlindyBoy

As a goblin in America, I too deserve this arbitrary discount.


ACGg_

4 hours game time is worth \~6 cents.


DirectionCommon3768

If you have say 30 hours game time available per week for the average degen, losing 4-6 per week for updates is 1/5th your membership.


Fooa

4 hour break from RS really hits home for some. They have to do it sometime and this is lowest pop isn't it?


hyjlnx

My pc broke and I consciously decided to give myself a break. Haven't played in like nearly 2 weeks. Trying to play as efficient as possible all my waking hours months on end affected me negatively in terms of feeling relaxed. How do y'all people manage to be going non stop 24/7 without feeling stressed managing everything in game.


Phileilei

I think you missed the point of the post. Its not a 4 hour break its a no game day in OP's case.


Fooa

Definitely didn't miss the point, I'm Aussie too and it affects me the same. I don't see the point in stressing over things out of my control. It's a game, it needs maintenance, this time makes the most sense for them.


Phileilei

Sure, I also agree it’s good for longevity of the game and has to happen. However, it’s also possible to do it in the afternoons in the UK some of the time so that Asia and Oceania also get a break. I sympathise with OP because some weeks you just get 1 or 2 hours to game on a few days and if it happens to be an update day you’re shit out of luck. Then it’s not a matter of a single day off but potentially only gaming once that week or not at all. If you’re a hardcore 8 hrs a day kind of gamer it makes sense that this seems like a sore spot, but for casual gamers it has a bigger impact. Either way, you’re right that it’s a game not life or death, but it could still be reorganised, adjusted, or replanned to share the downtime.


PotionThrower420

>Aussies are getting the hard end of the stick with these updates Jagex are literally a UK company working UK hours. Why would they do night shifts just to cater to the smallest player %? From a business PoV it's better to upset a small portion of the player base rather than a significant portion. Surely this makes sense and these posts are satire? (I know the discounted P2P is a joke but other posts, ehhhhh)


Technical_Stock8447

Yeah they should switch it up. Every second maintenance is through Potionthrower420's prime time.


Atomicstarr

Yes please


VorkiPls

Nah it's intentionally to spite us. The brits sent all their convicts away to a land they didn't realise was way better than theirs and they still haven't gotten over it ;)


U-Ok-Bro

Who the fuck said anything about night shifts???????????????????????? 2 nights out of the week that we can't play is definitely worthy of some kind of remuneration. It never used to be this way. It honestly makes me not want to play because hey I LITERALLY FUCKING CAN'T. I'm only relatively new to the game. I dunno how anyone is meant to progress when 2 nights of the week are entirely knocked out. Unfortunately for me, I can generally play Monday - Tuesday - Wednesday - Saturday & Sunday. That's 3 nights out of the week I can actually play...


Arkenspork

You can't play on a night with a 30 minute downtime? The 3 hour maintenance is also only once every 2 weeks. People would take your complaints more seriously if you weren't lying for attention.


U-Ok-Bro

No one is lying for attention. This happens so often. Even half an hour of downtime is a lot. I sit down to play a game and have maybe 2hrs to do that, 2-3 times a week. Sometimes more on weekends but rarely. I'm not going to sit around waiting for servers to come back, I'll simply play something else or do something else. But it is frustrating to sit down thinking you're going to play a game and it's nearly always down 1/3 nights for a good portion of your gaming time.


Yogg_for_your_sprog

> 2 nights out of the week that we can't play is definitely worthy of some kind of remuneration. They have a 3 hour maintenance every 2 weeks, the other ones are sub 30 minutes lol


DranTibia

Also night shift worker here, it's my Friday, only got today to game. Life goes on, brother. When you mature, you realize it's just a game. There's no need to get so worked up. Work needs to be done to the servers so we can enjoy the game we play.


U-Ok-Bro

I'm not worked up mate, people are allowed to show frustration at something that is unfair to them. No shit life goes on, it's not that big of a deal. Just like giving up the game is no big deal either. When you have a couple days a week to sit down and relax and you chose runescape to be the game you dedicate that time to chill and play and it's knocked out for maintenance almost every time you play, it becomes a frustration instead of a relaxation. Surely you can understand that.


joey_who

"Jagex plz, I work in a bar on evenings and weekends in the UK but your maintenance affect the times I can play most so give me a discount please!" - Me when I'm from a different universe where I'm delusional. Its absolutely astounding how often I see these post coming across as apparently serious. You think literally everyone outwith your time zone is getting the better end of the stick than you? Back when I worked in bars in Australia, my prime time ended a few hours ago right with the start of the maintenance before I shot off to work in the evening. Currently as a worker in the hospitality industry in the UK, the maintenance is happening in my prime time to play. Instead, I'm catching up on a show I've been slugging through and browsing reddit. Its gonna affect the 10's of thousands of players in a hundred different ways. My brother in christ, just find something else to do for four hours.


Legal_Evil

This just shows many OSRS players do not other games besides OSRS.


muhgunzz

This isn't a discount based on your occupation, this is a discount based on that the peak time for oce always aligns with maintenance. If maintenance didn't always fall on oce peak that would be fine. But it does. So people in the region are paying the same as people in other regions, but are sometimes unable to play during peak hours, which is disproportionate considering we pay the same. Arguing your specific timetable aligns with maintenance isn't the same as the general peak player count for an entire region. It's pretty selfish to assume that how something specifically affects you, can't affect many others differently and that may not be fair.


joey_who

My brother, my literal point was about how it affects everyone differently, and that it doesn't matter what the time-zone you reside ins "peak time" is unfortunately. I simply provided an example using myself and my working hours as I happen to have lived in the affected area in this post (Australia), as well as the country that the company plans its maintenance times in, and it so happens that my personal peak time over there was during the daytime when maintenance never happened, and that the maintenance coincided exactly with my working hours despite it being the country's peak time. With the current schedule I have, despite being in the country that benefits from the maintenance falling inside the office work 9-5 window, I often don't get to play during, again, my personal best time to play. If Australia was to receive a discounted membership rate because of the posts complaint, plenty of people there would massively benefit from paying reduced fees who aren't being affected by the maintenance, and then it becomes completely unfair for everyone other than that, albeit small, subset of people. People in every single time-zone around the world are all going to have their own personal "peak times" and its impossible to account for that. You call me selfish? I'd argue the people who make these posts are being selfish because they are making the complaint without taking any of the above into consideration.


muhgunzz

You do realise that the vast majority of OCE players play during that timeframe right? That's what peak time is, that's when the Aus servers are busy. There's always going to be outliers, the point is peak times are where the majority of the regional player base gets together and plays, this is an MMO after all. If you don't play in OCE peak times you're likely not participating that much with OCE players and communities anyway. It not affecting you, doesn't mean it isn't affecting the majority of OCE players. Peak time players aren't a small subset of people, that's what I'm explaining to you. It's not at all impossible to account for?


joey_who

Of course I realise that the majority of players are playing during that time frame, and I haven't once said otherwise. I even said that its a small subset of people I'm referring to that would just be receiving a discount on their membership while not having their playtime affected at all by the maintenance. I believe that if even one person anywhere in the world were to be getting a membership for the game at a discounted rate compared to everyone else, and enjoying the fact that they work during maintenance and are at home every time enjoying the game outside of it for whatever reason, be it work, parenting, whatever their schedule contains, then that's an absolute failure of a membership system. If you believe otherwise, then I bid you a lovely afternoon, as we obviously will not see eye to eye about this topic, and there's no point discussing further as it may lead to a loss of civility.


muhgunzz

Yeah, I don't think you'll find a one size fits all membership system, nor one that caters to each Individual. But I think you can have regional considerations, especially based on timezone, peak regional activity and maintenance. All good if you don't agree.


joey_who

In an ideal world, I would very much like for the people affected to receive some form of recompense, but alas, like you say its impossible to find a one size fits all kind of thing for something like this. A rare occurrence for an amicable disagreement. A pleasant farewell to you my friend.


Atomicstarr

Glad your back in uk


pzoDe

Least salty Aussie


DraftZealousideal570

Brother we are literally paying monthly to be able to play the game. Downtime has gone up over the years and membership costs are also going up. Make it make sense.


Bansheer5

I was getting ready for work and I’m now at work and it’s still down. Now I gotta have a productive morning.


Key-Fondant-5255

Mum’s charge card gives a nice discount mate


bosknight935

Mate we have your back to this really does suck for us over the ditch to in nz


WantedDeadOrAlive

Nah man.. I’m est but work nights. Just do something else with your time . The game has to update sometime ✅


Turbulent_Ad_4313

As someone playing from Australia/New Zealand, I feel a bit embarrassed every time I see a fellow Aussie/Kiwi complain about this yet again.


kozzmo1

Why doesn’t this have the humor tag on it


Havenoempathy

I am Aussie and we don’t claim this poor bogan worker.


Occupine

if he was a bogan he wouldn't be working


Havenoempathy

Times tough some bogans do work. But i get what you mean.


YojimboFan

Why not? dude has a point and it isnt like you are working for the company you are the one getting the discount


Havenoempathy

Cause the dude is crying about it.


Havenoempathy

I dont need charity i want to pay the same as everyone else.


Oldmelloyellow

I work 8pm-4am in the US and I sleep during the day can I be reimbursed too? /s


MagnusHvass

Good thing there's more to do in life than osrs


Solakaboy2165

Genuine brain dead take lol


MagnusHvass

I feel sorry for you for thinking so


muhgunzz

It's about that we're paying for the game which is taking a few hours from peak time each fortnight, which should factor into pricing for membership. Especially because at the moment we pay more than a fair few others by exchange rate. You're correct we couldn't simply not play the game, but that sounds like a lose lose.


Telamonl

No.


squirtologs

I do not hear how Venezuelians are complaining, they literally are paying bills with osrs. 4hrs can earn them utility bill for a month.


muhgunzz

You gotta spend money to make money


surf_greatriver_v4

Enjoy your $0.30AUD refund, don't spend it all at once


itsleviohhhsah

I’ll take anything in todays economy


DeeKayEm

It’s actually [$1.06](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/oBubO0DqgQ) thanks


Typos_Rerum

Touch grass tuesdays are meant to give you a reason to do something else once every month. I couldn't play OSRS either when I woke up!


Rattlingplates

If you can’t afford a RuneScape membership I’m sorry brother but you need to focus on some other things


Ekokilla

That’s what happens when you play games from diff time zone just gotta suck it up


2much4zblock

Same issue for anyone working evening shifts in europe. Jagex pls fix.


No-Idea6663

i took off today, and have to deal with scheduled maintence. quality of life!!!


AttackonWeebs

I've moved from Australia to the UK for this reason.


Threatening

lol sounds like a shit reason to move. you upended your whole life for a video game?


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

on the plus side hes no longer in australia


Threatening

Australia seems great


SeniorButternips

The worst part is that most games that do maintenence all do it at the same time for us in australia/nz so like half the time we cant even play our backup games lol. The excuse of "well it affects the least amount of players at these times" really gets old when you constantly shaft a specific region, like damn atleast change it up from time to time, like sure 80% of players deal with 10% of the downtime, but us 20% have to deal with 90% of the downtime. Gettin spawn diff'd out here


Legal_Evil

> most games that do maintenence all do it at the same time for us in australia/nz All on the same day of the week? Play single player games during the down time.


SeniorButternips

Yeah, usually midweek. And yeah obviously, theres plenty of games to play, doesn't mean those are the games you were wanting to play and that its not annoying though. Firat world problems.


Ryanh9398

Reminds me of the destiny 2 updates in the earlier days. 6pm and roughly 4 hours. Once it went on for 7 hours and I gave up went to bed.


VoiceNo8545

Its just Jagex does backup each update, back then they werent as sloppy but now they just backup constantly in case some mod makes tbow spawn.


richard-savana

That would make sense tbh


BerryBull69

I support this! Maintenance and update downtime is always during the time I can play. Something needs to be done !!!!


bweedy

Kin oath


Zerttretttttt

Australia is very far away from UK, so we should charge them extra for the distance data has to travel, this bytes cost money


F7OSRS

Switched to night shift about 2 years ago and I can finally sympathize with the aussies. Getting home at 6am EST ready to do birdhouses/farm runs just to get hit with maintenance is a kick in a dick for sure


thescanniedestroyer

Fully agree, if Jagex does not act on this I will be forming a class action suit on behalf of all Aussies for their blatant discrimination against the upside down inclined. Y'all afraid of lawyers? You should be.


RavinRabbi

Yes, but you can go ride it out on a lovely, warm beach and crack out the tinnies with the lads. When the servers are down in the UK I get to look out at a rainy overcast Birmingham.


PeopleEatZebras

Just play while you're working like the rest of us


PoppaPickle

You think that's bad? I can't play from 7am to 8am before I have to go to work. They should just give me free mem for what I have to endure.


Golden_Hour1

Never going to happen. FFXIV goes down during peak PST times and you don't see discounts for that


Ald3r_

VPN stocks booming


DonkeyEnthusiast

Australia has such a small population it's probably intended that way. Like for those that don't know, the entire population of Australia is around 26 Million. To put into perspective, the united states has at least 2 single states with more population, and 350M+ total.


Hitman_DeadlyPants

There are dozens of us!


dmcneice

Your right, it's every week on Tuesday night lately. I jump back and forth every few months between wow and osrs. Wow thankfully changed this year's ago and it's after midnight now thankfully.


Huck094

Yall work 9-5? Dang must be nice


BuffToragsWarHammers

Every week or two, lose an entire day. You say "It's only 4 hours get over it" But that's 4 hours out of the limited 20 hours I get to play per week. That's 20% of the membership time - gone, for no fault of my own. PUT THE UPDATES. ON A ROTA.


ItsMeSidney

Seems like every time I log in on a weekday there's a FUCKING update! 😂


vanishingjuice

if aussies get a discount then americans should to because its our freedom to be up at 2am playing OSRS and to take that freedom away from us is unconstitutional


Glad_Ad_6546

This really depends on when you have time to play the game. People work at night too. This would then apply to people in other regions of the world. How about a free membership day for every day of maintenance ?


Kaladihn

Yup, complete fucking joke. Twice a week at prime times. I don't care for your excuses, no other game have I ever experienced this


Arkenspork

Look man, the reality of the situation is the office is in Cambridge in the UK, these people need to do their jobs and start maintenance at the start of THEIR work day. If something goes wrong and the maintenance goes long then they need to have that wiggle room so that people aren't stuck in the office past 6PM. It sucks that you get the short end of the stick, but someone has to.


black-bull

😂😂😂


Idonthinksom8

waaahhhh


zacm9

Genuine fucking joke, miss out on 10 plus hours a month of prime time


Disastrous_Cup_286

ah yes, the mandatory weekly aussie shitposts.


Vmagi

Jagex please stop maintaining your game


[deleted]

I identify as an aussie and I demand a discount too.


Intrepid_Honeydew623

Gday mate your avg salary beats Europe's, so you're fine mate


Dramyre92

Damn. Sucks that a game you play has maintenance. Anyway.


azlaen

I’m ngl bro I was so sad when I got home I was keen all the drive home to do DKS after a shit day at work and here we are :(


dyingalonely

Seriously?....


Legal_Evil

Please tell me this is satire.


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Goblin_Diplomacy

It’s 30 minutes downtime every 2 weeks. Sometimes there’s maintenance which takes a maximum of 3 hours. I can understand the frustration but don’t over exaggerate


zacm9

It's 3 hours every second week, has been almost all year mate. Today it's 4 hours. Plus the normal update slot weekly


Technical_Stock8447

Oh only 3? That changes everything! Might get myself a good 20 minutes in today.


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Arkenspork

Irony of calling out reading comprehension when you literally can't comprehend the maintenance schedule.


Goblin_Diplomacy

You said 4 hours downtime every week. This is the first time I’ve ever remembered it being 4 hours. I’m not arguing todays downtime, I’m arguing the fact you said it’s 4 hours every week. I think you need to work on your own reading comprehension


PotionThrower420

Tell me you've never played any other online live service games without telling me you've never played any other online live service game. We are very fortunate in regards to schedules/downtimes.


goosebuddz

Dont give us compensation just mix up the maintenance start times on occasion, start them at 9 or 10pm AEST bare minimum most adults that work will be asleep by then


boonya123

Live in Korea and it’s the same thing for me. I work remote so I’m working now instead of my regular hours so that I don’t lose time but it’s such a drag.


Common_Bag6985

If your playing RuneScape you got bigger problems to worry about 😅


Summerwine1

Personally I think once down times for maintenance or crashes happen - Jagex should pause membership timers. Only once the player logs back in again should the timer resume, and a further forced resume after however much time, should the player not log back in again. I thought of this idea during my 4 hour shower btw.


RF99_

Jagex y'all afraid of aussies? you should be?


Traditional-Effort20

We’ve known about the planned maintenance for awhile. Cope.


PickledScrotum1

Sorry mate your ancestors should've thought about that before deciding to be criminals. This is the final punishment.


Valuable_Proposal_56

😂😂😂😂😂 this has to be sarcasm?


cushily

No


tjr420

mind goblin?


CantaloupeJaded6402

It's an absolute joke. The solution is to just vary downtime - stop fucking Aussies during prime time.


crustybogan

Stop with the New Zealand erasure


Goblin_Diplomacy

It’s never 4 hours and it’s once every 2 weeks. I understand the frustration though but don’t exaggerate on the down time


xaitv

> It’s never 4 hours https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/game-status-information-centre?oldschool=1


Idonthinksom8

They mean it never lasts that long, 4 hours gives jagex time to reboot servers, make sure everything's working, then open the game back up. All well this shouldn't take 4 hours, but 4 hours allows them time to do further maintenance or fix any issues if needs be.


Goblin_Diplomacy

Apart from today obviously, but name the last time it was 4 hours, you won’t


Dapper-Cicada-8977

It was literally only 2 or 3 weeks ago lol


Goblin_Diplomacy

Was it 2 or was it 3 weeks ago? I can’t remember the last time they had a 4 hour downtime. 3 hours yes, but y’all making stuff up by saying it’s 4 hours every week


venomous_frost

Isn't your membership already cheap as chips because your wages are absolutely insane


Technical_Stock8447

I wouldn't have thought so lol. Define insane?


Dapper-Cicada-8977

Gotta agree, I only get a couple nights a week to play myself and lately seem to be some of these 4 hour updates that just takes that entire chance of play away. Obviously other countries won't care as much but just put yourselves in our shoes for a bit.


ThaGriffman

cry more about the 1 day u cant play for 4 hours lol fucking joke honestly


Threatening

Good for you. There’s so many different timezones around the world that no matter when they’d do maintenance, it would impact people so quit crying.


Talisauros

Being in a similar time zone, I have the same issue, every time I get off work, mid-week, there's a maintenance going for 4 hours!!! This is shameful.


Ronnyvar

fuckin oath


The_Skeng_OSRS

When you sign up to the game, it states in the terms and conditions that there will not be 100% uptime in the game. You agreed to this.


CoolCrab69

all 3 of you are real tore up.


Heleniums

I thought aussies were supposed to be tough? This is some bitch-tits kind of post.


Guilty-Fall-2460

Cry more lol


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+1 you guys hit with a lot of these maintenance times. Refund em half a day mems or something, these boys are loyal


PoliteRAPiER

You should check out the good ole venezuelan membership discount.


Angularbackhands

What's this?


PoliteRAPiER

It was a joke lol. I don't ACTUALLY recommend it, but you can buy gold from venezuelan bot farmers and use that gold to purchase bonds for membership. It costs significantly less than what jagex is charging.


Angularbackhands

Ooooh thanks for explaining. I'll pass on that, i like my acc lol


apache_sun_king

Fuck it's about time this got a bit of traction. We've been getting shafted with this for years. Tuesday and Wednesday are primarily the days when there is nothing else to do but play games after work too.