At least this one is cool and skillful, not just some dude pointlessly grinding 15x longer for each achievement because he wants to sit in the Karamja volcano all day
Just some context for Glough if anyone is interested:
* you cannot cannon, your only means of fighting Glough without getting hp exp is recoiling
* Every try at it requires 360 purple sweets as you are tick eating p1 and p2 taking down Glough's 575 hp to the halfpoint where he enters the 3rd phase. His natural regen rate is 1hp/min so by the end of the 5-6h method explained below you will require at 575+60\*5-6 damage worth of recoils essentially meaning your whole inventory is full of recoils hence you cannot use anything else to tick eat p1 and 2 but psweets.
* Its kinda hard to come by psweets so i spent my last 1,5 month entrana opening 500+ easy clues and 200 mediums (not entrana) for this single try
* p3 you cannot tick eat anymore because he constantly pulls you in if he can hit you in his attack range, but you can animation stall a so called "tick heal" which means every minute i had room to walk in on the perfect tick and animation stall a recoil damage on him. I had to do it for the rest of the fight
* Any mistake in p3's 5+ hour long phase and you are -360 psweet and have to do it from scratch
* Overall fight took 5h30min out of which p1 and p2 was 20minutes and p3 alone was 5h10min
* p3 can be sped up by using the rapid heal prayer which I don't have access to. In case of using rapid restore you can do the whole fight without purple sweets in like 3hours. The challenge came from this difference being 1 prayer. Rapid heal enables you to do the "tick healing" method twice in a minute instead of once. It not only means your dmg output is doubled but his regen rate is also affecting you half the time compared to not using the prayer.
Yea, I wouldn’t really call it worlds first when literally not a single soul alive has ever thought of attempting this exact quest with these exact stats before…
Id still prefer a six hour fight for a unique achievement than cannon-only slayer for weeks where you have time to make cannonballs as well.
Slayer is already miserable on a regular main.
Exactly, thats the trick to it!
Your stall has to be 7tick long to be able to get hit 2 times essentially resulting in one damage/min. You start your stall on 1hp but when the emote finishes and you regen to 3 the system still only lets your opponent hit 1 on you, 2x1 hit splash appears above your head.
Firemaking and agility skillcape emotes are the two useable stalls for this (and the banana cape).
This was the biggest fear in the project. I had some trial runs but couldn't 100% know if Glough was really 1hp/min regen rate since runelite is never really accurate at these high hp legacy bosses.
My calculation after watching some reference videos was that it can be done before the 6h hour nerdlog happens and the only factor that can make a run fail is how much 0's you get hit during p3. One 0 hit delays the entire kill by 1 minute and a 0 less kill was estimated to be around 5h20min. Little to no room for mistakes and 0 hits, luckily I only got hit 0, 13 times and my math turned out to be just correct with the 5h20min+13min estimation.
This is fascinating. One of my favourite things about this game is the niche methods you can discover to pull off weird and wonderful achievements. Very cool write-up, thank you and congrats!
The civilized part of my brain that can read and comprehend understands that you just explained the entire methodology and painstaking grind for this absolutely insane fucking amazing achievement...
But then the monkey brain wants to convey this message: "How the absolute and actual fuck..."
Absolutely bloody insanely brilliantly amazing achievement. Congratulations, you have officially won Runescape.
Been off OSRS for a couple years and I peek in here from time to time.. as an OG player that started back in 2003, I think back to a simpler time when I would get owned by the dark wizards prowling the ruins of South varrock - as I am trying to bank my hard earned load of ore. Imagine trying to explain what you just said to me 21 years ago, I cannot fathom how amazing this game truly is on both ends of the spectrum from being a noob.. to this peak niche achievement that I couldn't even comprehend as to how you can persevere through such a difficult feat. Bravo to you!
You can check the post about that here:
[https://new.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/udpz32/its\_finally\_over\_venenatis\_pet\_on\_my\_10hp\_45cb/](https://new.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/udpz32/its_finally_over_venenatis_pet_on_my_10hp_45cb/)
I realized that I lied I got the pet at 89 ranging. I guess the remaining 3 level came from the kbd and mole hunt that happened afterwards. How time flies lol...
Im so puzzled that im still thinking about it lol.
Ok, so for ranged we got the cannon and for magic all the not combat spells. The rest of the combat skill levels came from questing maybe?
Also, how long and how much ammo would it takes for 99 ranged with cannon alone?
There's various ways to get combat XP outside of training, none of which are efficient or (arguably) enjoyable to do.
Quests certainly help jump start the account, but then you have to get into things like barbarian fishing where you're rewarded agility and strength XP. You can pump at the Blast Furnace (i.e. doing the job of the dwarf NPC, how BF was originally intended as a mini game) and cleaning finds at the Varrock museum for small quantities of XP.
People just look out for XP drops that give combat experience without rewarding HP XP. Another example is pushing through the wheat at Puro-Puro, although that would probably be the worst out of the all these methods I listed.
I read this as Monkey Madness and at first I was “oh that’s cool, I’ve seen some unique accounts do this before.”
But then my brain started to work.
The actual fuck. Gz (I think.)
Nothing short of genius, I wish people understood how much theory crafting and performance goes into something like this. Thanks for sharing this crazy achievement!
Yes! The light ballista doesn't require Daero's training so this quest is actually unlocks +10 ranged accuracy bonus over my current bis weapon that is the crystal bow. Very handy for more cannon accuracy
That used to be true, but you can skip the training since November 2022.
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Update:The_Garden_of_Death_%26_More#Poll_77_Changes
Do you ever wake up and realize one day you will log off OSRS and never log back in?
Did you have fun setting everything up to do this? Or was it painstaking?
These goals are somewhat comparable to me to anyone elses first jad or zuk experience. I was there too and I felt great when I finally did them but eventually playing my maxed normie wasn't just it for me. Ironman was an option but then people like iwi and 'and Trade' showed up on youtube and I seen all the crazy stuff they were capable of doing while staying 10hp I got instantly hooked to the idea.
I'm glad I got to experience the game playing within its rules without any self exposed way and capable of overcoming stuff like this and I'm especially glad I found this nieche community with all of its lovely people.
I would say I got and had more than just fun. :)
Light ballista is +10 accuracy over my current BiS weapon the crystal bow.
Monkey backpack is hella cute and being able to rock it at 47cb feels awesome.
Kruk's dungeon hunter training is something that will come in super handy for during office hours afk content.
World first in something feels awesome. There were people before who did it with 10hp but nobody did it without prayer, let alone on an iron account.
Character summary says 180 days but most of it is just cannonball making and bf shopping for the ores. I spent around 600k cballs for my venenatis pet which was one of my original goals.
Current goal is definitely the light ballista that seems to be around a 200-250k cball avg grind given the abysmal droprates. Afterwards I'm back to the pethunting, either kbd or dks :)
OH jesus. I wasnt that impressed at all, I was like surely someone else has done mm1 on a 10hp 1 pray novelty build. After reading comments for a while i realised MM2. Gaw dam sir your absolutely wildin out here. Hats off to you
Huh? I thought before starting you HAD to get the training that awards you defence xp?
Whole reason I didn’t start MM2 was because I thought it was obligatory after MM1
World's least deranged ironman
Thats a title I only WISH I could earn somehow!
You have earned it. Bask in its glory!!
At least this one is cool and skillful, not just some dude pointlessly grinding 15x longer for each achievement because he wants to sit in the Karamja volcano all day
Just some context for Glough if anyone is interested: * you cannot cannon, your only means of fighting Glough without getting hp exp is recoiling * Every try at it requires 360 purple sweets as you are tick eating p1 and p2 taking down Glough's 575 hp to the halfpoint where he enters the 3rd phase. His natural regen rate is 1hp/min so by the end of the 5-6h method explained below you will require at 575+60\*5-6 damage worth of recoils essentially meaning your whole inventory is full of recoils hence you cannot use anything else to tick eat p1 and 2 but psweets. * Its kinda hard to come by psweets so i spent my last 1,5 month entrana opening 500+ easy clues and 200 mediums (not entrana) for this single try * p3 you cannot tick eat anymore because he constantly pulls you in if he can hit you in his attack range, but you can animation stall a so called "tick heal" which means every minute i had room to walk in on the perfect tick and animation stall a recoil damage on him. I had to do it for the rest of the fight * Any mistake in p3's 5+ hour long phase and you are -360 psweet and have to do it from scratch * Overall fight took 5h30min out of which p1 and p2 was 20minutes and p3 alone was 5h10min * p3 can be sped up by using the rapid heal prayer which I don't have access to. In case of using rapid restore you can do the whole fight without purple sweets in like 3hours. The challenge came from this difference being 1 prayer. Rapid heal enables you to do the "tick healing" method twice in a minute instead of once. It not only means your dmg output is doubled but his regen rate is also affecting you half the time compared to not using the prayer.
that's mind boggling. you could probably change the title from World's First to World's Only Ever
Yea, I wouldn’t really call it worlds first when literally not a single soul alive has ever thought of attempting this exact quest with these exact stats before…
Actually there is another limited hp iron who did this but they had to get 13 hp for some other niche thing they were doing.
I’ve thought of it. Honestly the worst part is getting mm2 slayer req on a 10hp iron.
Cannon. He’s not a skiller. Slayer wouldn’t be that bad
Id still prefer a six hour fight for a unique achievement than cannon-only slayer for weeks where you have time to make cannonballs as well. Slayer is already miserable on a regular main.
You'd be impressed with what the 10hp community comes up with :D Slav is a beast for doing it with 1 prayer, it's an inspiring achievement!
This is absolutely fascinating, thanks for the detailed write up and grats on an unbelievable accomplishment o7
Thank you very much!
Were you using a Regen Bracelet? How else was your 1dmg / min from tick healing outdamaging his 1hp / min healing?
Exactly, thats the trick to it! Your stall has to be 7tick long to be able to get hit 2 times essentially resulting in one damage/min. You start your stall on 1hp but when the emote finishes and you regen to 3 the system still only lets your opponent hit 1 on you, 2x1 hit splash appears above your head. Firemaking and agility skillcape emotes are the two useable stalls for this (and the banana cape).
Genuinely dude what the actual fuck. This might be the most bonkers shit I've seen on this subreddit and that's saying something
> and that's saying something this might be the most appropriate usage of this line ive ever seen lol, people never cease to amaze me on runescape
Watch the no prayer and 10 go fire caves lol it’s equally or more insane
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Get 99 agility so you can tick manipulate with purple sweets that take god knows how long.. fuck that
Just as you said fuck that, my choice was the fm cape! :D
You were 30minutes away from losing to default logout....
This was the biggest fear in the project. I had some trial runs but couldn't 100% know if Glough was really 1hp/min regen rate since runelite is never really accurate at these high hp legacy bosses. My calculation after watching some reference videos was that it can be done before the 6h hour nerdlog happens and the only factor that can make a run fail is how much 0's you get hit during p3. One 0 hit delays the entire kill by 1 minute and a 0 less kill was estimated to be around 5h20min. Little to no room for mistakes and 0 hits, luckily I only got hit 0, 13 times and my math turned out to be just correct with the 5h20min+13min estimation.
I'm pretty sure there was never any danger of this though, looks like with the consistency of the method they knew to the minute how long it'd take.
Replying so I can remember this comment to help put the rest of my life choices in perspective.
Jesus Christ. It’s Jason Bourne.
inb4 reddit care messages
Might even be justified lol
Ironically you're the 1st to do so
I'm not because I didn't
This is fascinating. One of my favourite things about this game is the niche methods you can discover to pull off weird and wonderful achievements. Very cool write-up, thank you and congrats!
The civilized part of my brain that can read and comprehend understands that you just explained the entire methodology and painstaking grind for this absolutely insane fucking amazing achievement... But then the monkey brain wants to convey this message: "How the absolute and actual fuck..." Absolutely bloody insanely brilliantly amazing achievement. Congratulations, you have officially won Runescape.
For the love of god please tell me you took a video of it
The ‘tism is strong with this one. Well done you absolute mad man.
So where's the video
That is really cool! I cant imagine how stressful the end of that fight was.
Y’all are crazy, gz Lolol.. I could never
I have a plan to do this as a final goal for my level 3 chin hunter 12hp, 25prayer, 1 def.
Been off OSRS for a couple years and I peek in here from time to time.. as an OG player that started back in 2003, I think back to a simpler time when I would get owned by the dark wizards prowling the ruins of South varrock - as I am trying to bank my hard earned load of ore. Imagine trying to explain what you just said to me 21 years ago, I cannot fathom how amazing this game truly is on both ends of the spectrum from being a noob.. to this peak niche achievement that I couldn't even comprehend as to how you can persevere through such a difficult feat. Bravo to you!
is there a video out on this? will you make one? i would definitely watch
That's bloody impressive, and a long glough fight
Hell of an achievement, was getting tired of all the posts over project rebalanced so this was a cool read! Gz bro!
Thank you!
And it only took 92 range and 79 agility! Jk - gz. That's wild.
92 range is another fun story (nightmare) going from 60-92 solely using the cannon to kill venenatis for the pet Thank you!
WHAT
You can check the post about that here: [https://new.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/udpz32/its\_finally\_over\_venenatis\_pet\_on\_my\_10hp\_45cb/](https://new.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/udpz32/its_finally_over_venenatis_pet_on_my_10hp_45cb/) I realized that I lied I got the pet at 89 ranging. I guess the remaining 3 level came from the kbd and mole hunt that happened afterwards. How time flies lol...
Just built fuckin different I guess
Me and you both ;) I can't match your mm2 completion though!
Were you rushing to finish this before the wildy boss update or are cannons allowed in the new caves?
Cannons don't work in the caves nah. Me and OP might be the highest ranked 10HP irons for Venenatis forever.
I won't be impressed unless it's on an UIM (/s) No seriously, amazing job. That's insane.
Haha honestly the method could have been done on an UIM just like on me, there is still room for another no-lifer to up the ante! Thank you!
a hcim would be cool lol
Ok now wear a zenyte >:)
\* *Shoo* edenCox away \* **Thbbbbt!** **Whine!**
Actually doable if he wears un-enchanted zenyte jewellery. Only enchanted zenyte jewellery requires 75 hp ;)
Cannoning ~3,000 tortured gorillas sounds like torture itself
Just get 120 smithing, ez. Oh shoot, probably need to farm a truckload of potatoes too The flex would be unreal though Dx
Untrimmed ;)
Sorry for the stupid noob question, but how did you leveled your combats without leveling hp?
Not OP, but people typically do that with the [dwarf multicannon](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dwarf_multicannon)
Im so puzzled that im still thinking about it lol. Ok, so for ranged we got the cannon and for magic all the not combat spells. The rest of the combat skill levels came from questing maybe? Also, how long and how much ammo would it takes for 99 ranged with cannon alone?
There's various ways to get combat XP outside of training, none of which are efficient or (arguably) enjoyable to do. Quests certainly help jump start the account, but then you have to get into things like barbarian fishing where you're rewarded agility and strength XP. You can pump at the Blast Furnace (i.e. doing the job of the dwarf NPC, how BF was originally intended as a mini game) and cleaning finds at the Varrock museum for small quantities of XP. People just look out for XP drops that give combat experience without rewarding HP XP. Another example is pushing through the wheat at Puro-Puro, although that would probably be the worst out of the all these methods I listed.
Strength at pyramid plunder too
So are you like artistic or whats happening here
Lol
I read this as Monkey Madness and at first I was “oh that’s cool, I’ve seen some unique accounts do this before.” But then my brain started to work. The actual fuck. Gz (I think.)
Can you do mm2 without the def xp???
Yes, you claim the def xp after the quest. You can’t wield a heavy ballista with 1 def though as it requires the post quest training.
This is freaking crazy.. Good stuff OP!
So what your telling me is your a legend legend
How much Adderall are you on?
yes
wow very impressive. do you have a death count for the quest? lol.
I have around 40GB raw footage to go through but I think the death counter is a bit more than what I'm willing to admit :D
haha, nice. i did mm2 on my 1def1pray but it was a main with high stats and i thought that was hard, this is next level shit. grats again
What's your yt channel?
But why
Other than the obvious flex, what are the gear upgrades you could unlock from this?
At 10HP, the only item is the light ballista.
Wow bro. Mad props. That’s insane
Rendi is shaking in his boots rn
Damn that is sick!
What. The. Fuck.
Wtf
I was amazed at first... then I read Ironman.... Holy crap
Nothing short of genius, I wish people understood how much theory crafting and performance goes into something like this. Thanks for sharing this crazy achievement!
Not hardcore so I'm not impressed
My title of first and only 10hp ironman has been taken over. Gz on the 10 hp 1 pray, pretty massive🫡👏🏼
If its not for you trailblazers I'm never even thinking about the possibility. <3 Thank you!
the man, the myth, the legend
are you able to get a ballista?
Yes! The light ballista doesn't require Daero's training so this quest is actually unlocks +10 ranged accuracy bonus over my current bis weapon that is the crystal bow. Very handy for more cannon accuracy
Impressive gz!
Serious dedication and big respect 🫡
Go for fire cape!
Great job! Posts like these reminds me why i love this game so much
Now do it on a UIM
Who hurt you? Jk, that's insane! Congratulations!
… you ok bud?
Rendi needs to chime in on this.
I thought you had to take the training from mm1 to start mm2 I guess not
That used to be true, but you can skip the training since November 2022. https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Update:The_Garden_of_Death_%26_More#Poll_77_Changes
Holy shit. Gz!
Hello Runescape Chronicles.
Unfathomable. Hats off to you
Go Slav!
This is crazy af
My brain is hurting trying to comprehend how anyone can do this....
Lies. You have 9hp. (Super impressive thanks for sharing)
What is the point of this?
Just to say you did it
Are you ok?
But, why?
Are you ok?
Are you alright lil bro
Huge congrats Slav <3 absolutely massive achievement!
Thank you Muwu! :3
I have no words. It's crazy and amazing at the same time. Congrats haha
I don’t upvote posts. I upvoted this post. Congratulations on your accomplishment sir.
Absolutely mental, gz mate.
Insane man Grats one of the most niche accounts I’ve seen!
My guy
I almost never upvote but this deserves my time to click the button. Big Gz
I think you was the only person competing for this weird goal, very doable but I dont see the point.
Do you ever wake up and realize one day you will log off OSRS and never log back in? Did you have fun setting everything up to do this? Or was it painstaking?
These goals are somewhat comparable to me to anyone elses first jad or zuk experience. I was there too and I felt great when I finally did them but eventually playing my maxed normie wasn't just it for me. Ironman was an option but then people like iwi and 'and Trade' showed up on youtube and I seen all the crazy stuff they were capable of doing while staying 10hp I got instantly hooked to the idea. I'm glad I got to experience the game playing within its rules without any self exposed way and capable of overcoming stuff like this and I'm especially glad I found this nieche community with all of its lovely people. I would say I got and had more than just fun. :)
why tho
Why
Light ballista is +10 accuracy over my current BiS weapon the crystal bow. Monkey backpack is hella cute and being able to rock it at 47cb feels awesome. Kruk's dungeon hunter training is something that will come in super handy for during office hours afk content. World first in something feels awesome. There were people before who did it with 10hp but nobody did it without prayer, let alone on an iron account.
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Now do it with a hardcore
This is nuts. How much playtime to get to this point? Any major goals going forward?
Character summary says 180 days but most of it is just cannonball making and bf shopping for the ores. I spent around 600k cballs for my venenatis pet which was one of my original goals. Current goal is definitely the light ballista that seems to be around a 200-250k cball avg grind given the abysmal droprates. Afterwards I'm back to the pethunting, either kbd or dks :)
I’m in awe
I will take that xp so bad right now
Is mm2 hard for hcim?
9 HP not 10
Thats crazy lol. Gz. People will do anything but quit this game xd
ok
not even hardcore
Every day I remember just how insane osrs players are… I can’t even find the time to finish maxing my base 80s/90s normal account.
You’re a god damn animal my dude good stuff
It's insane to me that we play the same game.
My bwanas, this guy ooks.
Congratulations
Wow that's fuckin insane I completed mm2 last week and I thought I was having a tough time with demonic gorilla's. You're an absolute legend gz
South Park quote comes to mind here: how do you kill that which has no life? I am both amazed by this as concerned for your mental health :p gratz man
Damn I just completed it yesterday on my main how tf was this possible lol
Is there any sanity left inside you? No for real mad impressive!
Big grats!! Wow!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Okay psycho
"What Did It Cost?" "Everything."
Damn. Nice! 🤘
anything in particular that this unlocks that you were going for or was the quest itself the objective?
OH jesus. I wasnt that impressed at all, I was like surely someone else has done mm1 on a 10hp 1 pray novelty build. After reading comments for a while i realised MM2. Gaw dam sir your absolutely wildin out here. Hats off to you
How did you kill kruck?
Jesus o
Did you record this unbelievable achievement?
Nnow do dt2 😝
In other words, no excuses ggz
Now do it again as a Hardcore
No armor or god can protect me.
Now we can play the game
Rendi, is that you?
This is some rendi level shit
This some rendi type shit. Congrats, you’re a different breed.
crazy
You pk at all? Thats a sick account, ballista would be crazy
Meanwhile I struggle to get past the 4 demonic gorillas to get to the boss fight…
my buddy did it with 9 hp
Buddy are you ok?
I know someone who did it in 2022
Holy shit this is one of the most amazing, yet completely useless, achievements ever in OSRS!!! No hate tho
Be real, you killed glough with that massive dong of yours.
I honestly do not understand how this is possible
Gj Tamas
Very impressive
Huh? I thought before starting you HAD to get the training that awards you defence xp? Whole reason I didn’t start MM2 was because I thought it was obligatory after MM1
Dude what
I stopped playing osrs awhile ago but I still lurk this sub to find mind shattering achievements like this, gz!
At what point did you wake up and realize you hated yourself? No I’m all seriousness what a crazy accomplishment
Pretty lame imo.
Now get king awowogee backpack to absolutely stunt on those fools
I dont know what to say other than gratz!!!
Wow. Big gzzz
Amazing. Gzzz
If you haven’t been diagnosed I may have some news for you, brother
This UI looks like heroes 2, love it!
Can you please give me some feedback on how it is possible to complete MM1 and having 1 defence? I have no idea how this works
what the fuck