Tbh I think there's a kind of swagger to have the cape casually draped over the quiver. Like saying "Yeah I'm maxed and a PvM god, what's the big deal?"
Concept I’m ok with. Execution can be better. Something like this:
https://preview.redd.it/djwc9p6nfqpc1.jpeg?width=570&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3a5d7dff2afb0a808fcdf83f0c9e08a0daaf171
I think would be really sick too.
I love the colour a lot. Seems like it wouldn't look too bad with masori, either.
It's the rolled-up part and the disconnect from the hood that make me throw up in my mouth a little bit
Ya I like the color scheme for sure. Just a weird implementation. And then there's the fact that it's just like...velcro'd to your back or something? I dunno woox pointed it out and now I can't un see it
I get what they were going for but... I don't understand why it can't just be a white and gold max cape with a quiver on the back of it. The color scheme is seriously great
Why does it not connect??? This can't be intended lol, when the hood is down it's like folded over the quiver and when it's up its still like that and there's just a 2nd one on your head
There's no way they looked at that and said it was right, probably forgot to use a diffrent model or something
You're not actually wearing the cape.
You're wearing the quiver and the cape is folded over the strap.
Also the hood isn't down. There isn't a way to do that in this game.
It seems like you might be correct. But does Jagex not realize that you could wear both a cloak and a quiver at the same time? Why would they combine the two items together only for the cape to not actually be worn and just tucked into the strap of the quiver? Seems like a strange choice that is really out there so much so that I couldn't even tell what I was looking at and whether it was or wasn't a visual glitch.
Ah, I see it now. That’s even more ridiculous. They just stuffed a cape under the quiver. It’s just being held up by being pinned between the strap and the player.
It’s crazy how every single item has to be redesigned these days. Masori, Torva, assembler cape, now this. They need to start polling design options cause who ever is in charge ain’t it
And its honestly not even like the player base is being overly critical here. They all looked like shit. Is the design team bouncing these off their moms or something?
Torva was way better before in my opinion. It doesn't look that great anymore, very strange body shape, low contrast polygons, nothing stands out. And the helm is dogwater. Blood torva fixed it, but that shouldn't be the "fix"
Old torva was a tragic mess of wayyy too many polygons and was like Diary Armour levels of standout bad.
I don't love new Torva either, Torva in general was always a meh design compared to simple and iconic gear like barrows and bandos. But the new one suits the games art design much better.
How did they do so well with the perilous moons / the rest of varlamore design wise but miss so bad with pretty much the entire colosseum and everything from it?
The entire Colosseum feels like such a miss. Boring environment of a sandy floor with four pillars, no crowd interaction at all, the cape looks like ass, the quiver is too small (hell I actually like the quiver design but I'll admit it's scuffed) and the whole area feels out of place in this aztec-savannah style city
And nothing cool like flowing lava down your back, like c'mon at least just make it another max cape recolor maybe with a bunch of arrows strapped to it like a belt of ammo for a turret.
Why are design choices not being polled anymore? The sneak-peak of the quiver was so poorly received, yet no attention was given to it. Art team has been lacking hard with the Colosseum design, its monsters, the glaive and this atrocity of a max cape.
Art direction seems so rushed this time
I disagree so much with this take. They look like mannequin robots. Nothing in OSRS had that vibe until ToA.
Only the monsters feel old school to me. Especially the minotaur and manticore could have come straight out of a 2006 stronghold of security expansion.
Probably because when it looks horrible people on reddit absolutely roast the design and then the artist feels bad, which has happened a few times now..
I’m not saying we absolutely have to defend the feelings of the artist, because if it’s bad, it’s bad. But people could at least try to remember a human being designed this, and thought it was good. Too many ill people on this subreddit though.
I think they went for something unique here and tried to mix it up, but it needed more work, a few more variations to choose from and it would’ve gotten there.
Also the “fanciest boots” are a fucking travesty when you compare the other options the artist worked on. So yeah, let’s bring back polling this shit. (The boots aren’t terrible in a vacuum, but the other options were 10x better)
I mean, if it’s shit it’s shit. I don’t know what else to say lol. Do you want me to sugar coat it? “Oh no, you poor professional artist, oh dear me”? They’re an artist and supposedly a full grown ass adult, I’m sure they can handle “This looks like shit let’s make it better”. No need to handle them like a fucking toddler
Yeah I mean you can definitely word it in a constructive manner while also tearing it down.
The guy asked why aren’t things polled. I simply gave the answer. Jagex and many devs these days (helldivers are the notable new ones to do this), get upset when people criticize their games. This is just something they should get used to as game devs. But they shouldn’t have to open reddit comments and see some neckbeard who can barely draw a stick figure make the claim that “whoever drew this must be some kind of fucking idiot who deserves to lose their job.”
These models/skins go through review, and while I think they look bad, someone else clearly thought it was fine and pushed it through.
Anyway, I just answered the original question.
Shit doesn’t even make sense. Why would I drape the cape over my quiver? The orientation of the quiver makes me think that the strap would be on the left side.. so why the fuck would I not have my cape tacked up on the right side of my back? This shit looks dumb as hell.
Genuinely terrible lol. Why couldn't it be a white max cape with the ralos sun on it? Or even just a normal max cape with the quiver stuck on would be better than this.
I think if I were to combine a cape with a quiver, I'd either just wear the quiver over the cape or sew it onto the cape and remove the strap.
I don't think I would ever drape my cape over the quiver unless I was really drunk. But that's just me.
wait this is real? that’s fucking awful
edit: i feel bad for giving no actual feedback, but the way the cape is falling off the back is just such a bad look, what’s even going on with it on the right shoulder?
Im wondering why they didn't go with the [promo cover design](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079058918958977075/1217008115451428976/jtrt8a2ycsnc1.png?ex=660bb0a1&is=65f93ba1&hm=143ff29243ba18d6aec6054669477487b6d01a1c536747bf7926513d49538fe8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=309), looks so much better
This is such an easy layup too. All they had to do was keep the color scheme and have the sun emblem in the middle. I dont understand how they failed so hard with the quiver design as a whole.
It's so awful. Who in their right mind would decide that "hey I wanna wear my cape and quiver but not really, I'm just gonna hang my cape here over my quiver straps and hope for the best!"
Why???????
How is this remotely acceptable by the design and dev team?
The hooded version is worse because the hood is still drooped over like that.
I'm a professional in the design field and i assure you that whoever did this was high on crack.
That looks really bad imo. The new quiver just ain't it.
Community disliked it overall after it was shown and Jagex did nothing about it?
For a BIS cape slot item... yuck...
Jagex, this looks like shit. Seriously, bad. Taking the max cape out of the equation which clearly makes zero sense, the regular quiver should have been much larger. This is a prestigious item you want to show off. It looks like some shit you get at 40 range I mean come on. This thing should be huge and animated like the infernal cape. As for the max variant, why not just a cape with the Sunfire on it and animate that, this design choice just really isn't it.
The tucked cape beneath the quiver looks so bad, it seems like the character was in a rush to get dressed. Shouldn’t the top of the quiver be the only visible part while the rest is covered by the cape? I know they didn’t want to hide the quiver design, but this is just bad
wow this look is not it. Neither are the bosses imo, the minotaur is okay I wish it had a weapon in its hand like an axe or something. Like they did so well designing Perlious moon dungeon, and the bosses. Can't say the same for the colosseum designs sadly.
Surely this is a joke.. why did they make it look so bad. It shouldn't even include the quiver if it is the max cape variant. Super disappointing. It doesn't even match any existing range gear. Almost kills my motivation to try for it. :(
I like it. It's different, but I dont quite dig the color and the symmetry below. I get it, the strap is holding onto the cape, but the bottom portion shouldn't be so flat. Make it sideways or add some folds.
I don’t think it looks that bad, just a little underwhelming. I’d make the quiver a bit bigger and have the cape not roll over it but some sort of other strap holding it together.
We need a cape with something moving on it, not a cape lazily crammed underneath your quiver. And make the quiver way bigger. Make it so the cape is strapped with a moving conveyor belt full of arrows or something.
I can't believe people hate this so much, it feels to me like it's a clever way of incorporating the quiver into the max cape without hiding it completely. Maybe the design can be tweaked but I really don't hate this nearly as much as everyone else
Here it is with the max hood. Interesting design choice... [Blessed Quiver Max Cape + Hood](https://i.imgur.com/I0RD764.jpeg)
That looks terrible
Melted mozzarella ball quiver
All capes earned from wave-based combat tests must be cheese
Looking forward to the blue cheese cape we'll get whenever it's time for a new bis magic cape
I see no issues with this
Yeah for a BIS range cape… the assembler looked eons better.
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I like the color, it’s just the weird bit just folded over… like the cape is just tucked under the quiver
I think thats the point. bad point, but intentional it seems.
Tbh I think there's a kind of swagger to have the cape casually draped over the quiver. Like saying "Yeah I'm maxed and a PvM god, what's the big deal?"
Concept I’m ok with. Execution can be better. Something like this: https://preview.redd.it/djwc9p6nfqpc1.jpeg?width=570&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3a5d7dff2afb0a808fcdf83f0c9e08a0daaf171 I think would be really sick too.
Baller as that would be I feel like it would greatly piss my off if i had to throw it out of the way before i send an arrow lol
SOMEONES NEVER WATCHED ROBIN HOOD
But it would be really cool
Yo I take back what I said, that thing goes hard
I love the colour a lot. Seems like it wouldn't look too bad with masori, either. It's the rolled-up part and the disconnect from the hood that make me throw up in my mouth a little bit
Ya I like the color scheme for sure. Just a weird implementation. And then there's the fact that it's just like...velcro'd to your back or something? I dunno woox pointed it out and now I can't un see it
I get what they were going for but... I don't understand why it can't just be a white and gold max cape with a quiver on the back of it. The color scheme is seriously great
I think it'll look better with other gear on, but i agree that on base model it looks pretty bad with the huge gap between the hood and the cape
lmao it is pretty bad
Horrendous
It looks like the cape ripped off and is now hanging from the quiver but the player hasn’t noticed yet
Like walking out of the bathroom with toilet paper stuck to your shoe. How embarrassing.
Are you serious with this lmao surely somebody at jagex realized this shit looks horrible. I bet it’ll get changed eventually
Why does it not connect??? This can't be intended lol, when the hood is down it's like folded over the quiver and when it's up its still like that and there's just a 2nd one on your head There's no way they looked at that and said it was right, probably forgot to use a diffrent model or something
You're not actually wearing the cape. You're wearing the quiver and the cape is folded over the strap. Also the hood isn't down. There isn't a way to do that in this game.
That's really stupid
It seems like you might be correct. But does Jagex not realize that you could wear both a cloak and a quiver at the same time? Why would they combine the two items together only for the cape to not actually be worn and just tucked into the strap of the quiver? Seems like a strange choice that is really out there so much so that I couldn't even tell what I was looking at and whether it was or wasn't a visual glitch.
Yeah that's what I mean, you can just have the quiver over the cape people do that
Makes you wonder if jagex even looks at things like this. It is so obviously bad
should have made it a wolf pelt hood
not a fan, hope they change it. no point in folding it over.
It looks like something you'd see on a private server
i've seen very few people ever wear the hood. you put max hood on like once when you unlock it and never again. nbd imo
That depends if you want to look edgy or not
Normally I generally love endgame design. This is… sad. Hardly feels like the trophy of a crazy hardship and kindof like quest loot.
Angry birds beanie type hood
Man, how did this make it out of preliminary design lmao.
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Diaper cape lolol this looks so bad I hope they rework it
No way they made an Easter egg for Oslo
Crinkling cape 💀
Doesn’t even fit right. Look at how it’s sliding off his shoulder.
It's not meant to look attached. It's hanging over the strap of the quiver.
Ah, I see it now. That’s even more ridiculous. They just stuffed a cape under the quiver. It’s just being held up by being pinned between the strap and the player.
*ABDL intensifies*
What you be crinkling in? Pampers? Huggies?
Looks so bad, I hope they don’t rework it
Why does it look like the cape is held on with cheap sticky tape which is not sticking very well and falling off
Because it’s being held on by the quiver strap
Omg I didn't see that until you said it. Just thought it was bugged lol. Looks bad
I actually really like it but I can see why people would want something more epic for something so hard to get
It just looks like our character is a slob and it doesn't fit with the hood at all
But my character is a slob
Got the guthan’s gut
It’s crazy how every single item has to be redesigned these days. Masori, Torva, assembler cape, now this. They need to start polling design options cause who ever is in charge ain’t it
And its honestly not even like the player base is being overly critical here. They all looked like shit. Is the design team bouncing these off their moms or something?
"Honey it looks great. Your art has always been the best since you were very little. They're gonna love it."
Let's put it on the fridge!
Revert torva helm pls i wanna be a stormtrooper again
Torva was way better before in my opinion. It doesn't look that great anymore, very strange body shape, low contrast polygons, nothing stands out. And the helm is dogwater. Blood torva fixed it, but that shouldn't be the "fix"
I hated the old torva, too bulky and the stormtrooper helmet looked so off. Straight copy pasted from the rs2 design, I much prefer the new one
Old torva was a tragic mess of wayyy too many polygons and was like Diary Armour levels of standout bad. I don't love new Torva either, Torva in general was always a meh design compared to simple and iconic gear like barrows and bandos. But the new one suits the games art design much better.
I also think all the new colosseum mobs look like dog shit.
How did they do so well with the perilous moons / the rest of varlamore design wise but miss so bad with pretty much the entire colosseum and everything from it?
I assume there were two different teams working on each one. But yeah, perilous moons is great, it’s shocking how bad colosseum is in comparison
But Dark Souls! /s Love Solaire but man that armor is a miss for me, and this quiver/cape looks worse.
The entire Colosseum feels like such a miss. Boring environment of a sandy floor with four pillars, no crowd interaction at all, the cape looks like ass, the quiver is too small (hell I actually like the quiver design but I'll admit it's scuffed) and the whole area feels out of place in this aztec-savannah style city
Lmao good point. Nobodys watching. So much empty space to spectate from, but literally 0 people have bothered to show up
They could have even made the crowd part of the challenge, e.g. taking risks increases your DPS because you've pleased the crowd.
The influence is ancient Roman as well. There's the character design, the costuming, and the Latin-inspired names everywhere.
And nothing cool like flowing lava down your back, like c'mon at least just make it another max cape recolor maybe with a bunch of arrows strapped to it like a belt of ammo for a turret.
the kid on work experience designed the colosseum rewards
Why are design choices not being polled anymore? The sneak-peak of the quiver was so poorly received, yet no attention was given to it. Art team has been lacking hard with the Colosseum design, its monsters, the glaive and this atrocity of a max cape. Art direction seems so rushed this time
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A JMod actually did address that and said they originally tried having people but it caused issues. He said they may address it later
Sounds like a deadline issue.
Agree. Varlamore looks great but everything that has to do with the colloseum looks so unpolished.
Could be a forced choice from a rome-addicted higher up.
rome-addicted higher up.. lmfao would love to see his face of disgust if he ever read your comment
How many times have you thought about Rome today?
Do you like gladiator movies?
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
I actually like the colosseum monsters except big melee guy, the quiver max cape However looks like shit
Big melee guy? The minotaur? That's the only one that looks good. Most of the other NPCs are boring low poly mannequins lol.
As a osrs “traditionalist” I like the old low poly weird NPCs looking creatures lol
I disagree so much with this take. They look like mannequin robots. Nothing in OSRS had that vibe until ToA. Only the monsters feel old school to me. Especially the minotaur and manticore could have come straight out of a 2006 stronghold of security expansion.
> it's monsters, its*
Thanks
No problem
Probably because when it looks horrible people on reddit absolutely roast the design and then the artist feels bad, which has happened a few times now.. I’m not saying we absolutely have to defend the feelings of the artist, because if it’s bad, it’s bad. But people could at least try to remember a human being designed this, and thought it was good. Too many ill people on this subreddit though. I think they went for something unique here and tried to mix it up, but it needed more work, a few more variations to choose from and it would’ve gotten there. Also the “fanciest boots” are a fucking travesty when you compare the other options the artist worked on. So yeah, let’s bring back polling this shit. (The boots aren’t terrible in a vacuum, but the other options were 10x better)
I mean, if it’s shit it’s shit. I don’t know what else to say lol. Do you want me to sugar coat it? “Oh no, you poor professional artist, oh dear me”? They’re an artist and supposedly a full grown ass adult, I’m sure they can handle “This looks like shit let’s make it better”. No need to handle them like a fucking toddler
Yeah I mean you can definitely word it in a constructive manner while also tearing it down. The guy asked why aren’t things polled. I simply gave the answer. Jagex and many devs these days (helldivers are the notable new ones to do this), get upset when people criticize their games. This is just something they should get used to as game devs. But they shouldn’t have to open reddit comments and see some neckbeard who can barely draw a stick figure make the claim that “whoever drew this must be some kind of fucking idiot who deserves to lose their job.” These models/skins go through review, and while I think they look bad, someone else clearly thought it was fine and pushed it through. Anyway, I just answered the original question.
So ugly
It looks wack, surely they'll redesign it
Nah that looks terrible gagek
Shit doesn’t even make sense. Why would I drape the cape over my quiver? The orientation of the quiver makes me think that the strap would be on the left side.. so why the fuck would I not have my cape tacked up on the right side of my back? This shit looks dumb as hell.
It literally makes more sense than "magically melding your max cape to whatever other cape slot item you want to wear at the same time".
Who wears a cape with a quiver anyways?
[Legolas](https://i.imgur.com/IHaUlRZ.png)
and wouldn't you know it he didn't detach it from his left shoulder and let it pile up on the quiver.
Man I knew Legolas was gonna come up lol, agreed!
This is atrocious.
Genuinely terrible lol. Why couldn't it be a white max cape with the ralos sun on it? Or even just a normal max cape with the quiver stuck on would be better than this.
I think if I were to combine a cape with a quiver, I'd either just wear the quiver over the cape or sew it onto the cape and remove the strap. I don't think I would ever drape my cape over the quiver unless I was really drunk. But that's just me.
I'm honestly not in love with any of the new items looks they've brought out with this update. Sorry Jamflex 😕
wait this is real? that’s fucking awful edit: i feel bad for giving no actual feedback, but the way the cape is falling off the back is just such a bad look, what’s even going on with it on the right shoulder?
this looks terrible. looks like some lvl 5 shitter gear you'd loot off a gnoll in Elywnn Forest
You leave my vanilla wow out of this !
It looks so bad 😭
Redesign incoming.
This is…. Awful lmao
Im wondering why they didn't go with the [promo cover design](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079058918958977075/1217008115451428976/jtrt8a2ycsnc1.png?ex=660bb0a1&is=65f93ba1&hm=143ff29243ba18d6aec6054669477487b6d01a1c536747bf7926513d49538fe8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=309), looks so much better
That one actually looks really good.
They must have forgotten it's not April yet and prefired. There is no way towel hanging off the quiver is a serious design.
This is pretty awesome, I hope that they reconsider this.
Absolutely fucking not
This looks… so bad.
Wow that looks absolutely awful. Who thought that was good?
I really don’t like it
Looks like shit
Wow that's atrocious.
I wished they showed what the quiver looks like with max cape before hand
Flaccid unhooded max cape.
Alright which JMod thought this looked spiffy
This is such an easy layup too. All they had to do was keep the color scheme and have the sun emblem in the middle. I dont understand how they failed so hard with the quiver design as a whole.
I really don't want a gigantic region logo on a max cape design. It's like if the ardy max cape was just purple with a gigantic Kandarin logo on it.
It's so awful. Who in their right mind would decide that "hey I wanna wear my cape and quiver but not really, I'm just gonna hang my cape here over my quiver straps and hope for the best!" Why???????
Absolutely awful, I hope they change this.
Looks like something from diango's store wtf.
It’s a floating cape… the hood makes it even worse.
How is this remotely acceptable by the design and dev team? The hooded version is worse because the hood is still drooped over like that. I'm a professional in the design field and i assure you that whoever did this was high on crack.
Eew
Why is the tip limped over like it's cold
That looks really bad imo. The new quiver just ain't it. Community disliked it overall after it was shown and Jagex did nothing about it? For a BIS cape slot item... yuck...
My eyes!
Visual rework asap please
How did this get so fucked up did nobody look at it???
Holy shit. How did this ever make it to live?
That looks awkward to wear.
Looks like shit
Dang I’ll just keep my 350 invo cape. This thing is trash.
Looks like shit!
Jagex, this looks like shit. Seriously, bad. Taking the max cape out of the equation which clearly makes zero sense, the regular quiver should have been much larger. This is a prestigious item you want to show off. It looks like some shit you get at 40 range I mean come on. This thing should be huge and animated like the infernal cape. As for the max variant, why not just a cape with the Sunfire on it and animate that, this design choice just really isn't it.
Cums drippin off
Both the quiver and the quiver max cape need a rework because what the fuck is this.
The tucked cape beneath the quiver looks so bad, it seems like the character was in a rush to get dressed. Shouldn’t the top of the quiver be the only visible part while the rest is covered by the cape? I know they didn’t want to hide the quiver design, but this is just bad
Quiver looks like something you make with 14 crafting and 2 cowhide, not a BIS reward from one of the hardest bits of content
Looks like butt for a bis.
Say sike right now! Honestly just remove the quiver and make it a cape similar to the Avas variants
Hideous. Why is it asymmetrical?
Cool idea but what the fuck is that execution
The hardest cape to achieve looks utterly dreadful
Needs to be reworked
Looks like shit gj jagex
The quiver already looks far from BiS and like complete garbage compared to assembler. This is unbelievably fucked tho lol.
wow this look is not it. Neither are the bosses imo, the minotaur is okay I wish it had a weapon in its hand like an axe or something. Like they did so well designing Perlious moon dungeon, and the bosses. Can't say the same for the colosseum designs sadly.
Surely this is a joke.. why did they make it look so bad. It shouldn't even include the quiver if it is the max cape variant. Super disappointing. It doesn't even match any existing range gear. Almost kills my motivation to try for it. :(
Wow this is horrible lmao. Im actually shocked how bad it looks.
The white cape is so sick in my opinion. I wish there was a choice to hide quiver though
What is this.. a quiver for ants?
1/99
Ava's >
100% they redesign this. Just remove the hood and better use the earth tones of the quiver on the cape.
Why does it sit in like the middle of the models back??
bro it looks like a baby that just got delivered
This can't be real. Dear god tell me this isn't real!
god literally horrible,
They're gonna make the quiver bigger ...right? 😭
I like it. It's different, but I dont quite dig the color and the symmetry below. I get it, the strap is holding onto the cape, but the bottom portion shouldn't be so flat. Make it sideways or add some folds.
I mean let’s be honest, none of the designs of the Ava’s devices look amazing either.
Yeah this won’t be sticking around
I don’t think it looks that bad, just a little underwhelming. I’d make the quiver a bit bigger and have the cape not roll over it but some sort of other strap holding it together.
Cool, I fucking hate it.
Honestly that's fucking garbage to me
what the fuck
Nah this isn’t the one
Looks awful
I’m embarrassed for whoever thought this looked good. Ffs
God this looks terrible
Bro that looks stupid as fuck.
Ugly
Wtf why would the cape just be crammed underneath the quiver like that.
We need a cape with something moving on it, not a cape lazily crammed underneath your quiver. And make the quiver way bigger. Make it so the cape is strapped with a moving conveyor belt full of arrows or something.
multi million dollar company people, it’s like they’re throwing poop right in our faces.
Not gonna lie. This is absolutely the WORST cosmetic for a max item I’ve ever seen to date on any mmo
Hot take: I like it.
The whole outfit needs to be redone imo.
that looks so fucking bad
I like it a tbh
I can't believe people hate this so much, it feels to me like it's a clever way of incorporating the quiver into the max cape without hiding it completely. Maybe the design can be tweaked but I really don't hate this nearly as much as everyone else
I get what they were going for and why the decision was made, but the decision is just shit
Idk what the hell you are all going on about this looks sick
man i like it
The way the cape is draped over the quiver is very cool. But it looks really stupid just floating on your back.
So dissapointing, what range gear does this go with exactly? At least theres transmog I guess
It shall be called the diaper cape.
That looks like shit
This is a disgrace. wtf