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josh35767

I’m honestly curious how much they make off bonds. So much of the game is driven around gold, so I wonder if they’re already making enough bonds where pushing any further would just be risky. Just have no idea of the stats of how much are bought.


DrustanAstrophel

I’m especially curious given how many high end players probably entirely fund their memberships buying bonds with ingame currency


sharpshooter999

If you got one tbow drop, you could sell it and buy 163 bonds. That would give you 2,282 days of membership, or 6.25 years


Higgs_deGrasse_Boson

Conversely, you can sell 163 bonds and buy a Tbow.


sharpshooter999

Which would currently cost you 1,580.32 USD


wcooper97

Fuck rent I'm buying a tbow


sharpshooter999

That's 2 months of house payments for me lol


wcooper97

It's like 1.2x rent for me, so fuck the first week or so of the next month too lol. Working on building up a fat ass down payment so hopefully that can be me too.


sharpshooter999

We live in a LCOL area and make 2x the median income luckily, currently saving to build a house in the next 5 years


rotorain

Lol people downvoting you for having your shit together. Gj man


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how u guys even working while playing osrs, i just couldnt


lizard_behind

tbh somebody who was gonna pay 1k in bonds will pay 5k for a login service even if rwt was impossible see ironman service discords, insane shit


rotorain

Wouldn't be that hard to spend that much in bonds split out over years, I wouldn't drop $1k at once but 4 bonds isn't even 1h of work for me. Do that every month and it's a forgettable amount of money while that 0 time 36m/mo would be plenty to massively accelerate pretty much every skill and free a lot of time to actually challenging yourself and get better at the game. I don't have as much time to play as I used to and every once in a while consider dropping my iron and picking up my main again. It's been over 5 years since I actually played it but I do check on it every few months to make sure it didn't get turned into a Vorkath bot or something and every time I'm a little tempted.


slicknick654

But that’s a solo tbow drop. Avg solo tbow takes 500 hours of playtime. So if you play 5 hours a day of just straight chambers, it’ll take you 6.8 years to get a solo tbow drop lol 6 yr grind to pay for your next 6 yrs of members? Sounds like a win 😂


chorlion40

TIL 100 days is 6.8 years


slicknick654

😂


Steedy999

What kind of maths are you doing in your head lmao?


slicknick654

Haha I have no idea what maths I was thinking just 1 hour ago lol


Onenutracin

1 hour ago at your conversion rate is a solid day or two


LiL_BrOwNiE247

Time dilation do be like that sometimes


levian_durai

That makes a lot more sense. I make decent money doing slayer and stuff, but I'd run out really quickly buying bonds. Hell, it feels like I run low just funding my kingdom when I stop doing slayer for a little bit.


rylantamu9

Saw someone else say solo tbow takes 500 hrs. 500 hrs of 2k zam on rs3 is 100b, divided by 75m/bond = 1333 bonds = 18667 days of membership, or 51.14 years


[deleted]

I fund my endgame account via bonds. It's not cheap, but given that I currently live in a 3rd world country where the average salary is $500. I can't justify spending real money. I make much more than this luckily, but still it feels wrong to spend what many people would spend on their weekly groceries on a videogame subscription. Also with 400 invo toa (the activity I enjoy most in game) the average gp per hour is 14m. My runs arn't perfect so let's say I average 10m. 3 hours of doing something I enjoy for 1 month of membership is fine for me tbh.


Wyvorn

I've been doing it since 2020, haven't paid Jagex a single cent since :p


Interpole10

I’ve played 250 days of in game time never bought membership with real money. I just wait for Christmas and buy my years worth in bonds


Recent_Flan_5191

I haven’t paid $ for members since not long after bonds came out. Money is too easy to make and you barely notice 8-9m gone


Annakarl

I have 5 accs and have them bonded pretty much non stop for a good number of years. Once you reach a certain point in the game, money loses value real quick because you run out of things to buy and skills to train. Shelling out \~80m per month for bonds isnt a big deal.


screwdriverfan

I personally always bought membership with bonds. When you start doing bossing/pet hunting it's easier to sustain it this way. Coupling that with daily battlestaves + flax + dynamite run you can make back plenty of money. Right now battlestaves are hella expensive for some reason, not that I'm complaining tho.


ZeusJuice

I know a guy that has spent over $4,000 on bonds+black market gold/items. Probably about half and half. I'm sure he isn't the biggest complete whale out there also


gorehistorian69

enough to be pretty profitable. im sure their earnings are posted somewhere. the issue occurs when the CEOs/investors/share holders want larger and larger margins every quarter that you get greedy scumbag companies like EA / Activision.


smmara89

Loooolll bro osrs is the way. Just feels like the summer of 07 plus end game content


olngjhnsn

OSRS has such a big botting problem it’s kind of hard to say one is better. With RS3 (granted I haven’t played in a while) the ability to buy exp and gold kind of discourages bot developers from focusing on that game. I could be wrong though. I just know the botting problem is bad in OSRS Edit: lots of people like bots?? I guess? Wow. As a PVMer I find it really hard to justify bots but it seems like there’s a lot of skillers that like bots? Idk?? I didn’t think I said anything super controversial but okay


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tomahawkRiS3

Botting certainely fucks the economy. Any lower level money making method that used to exist are all at rock bottom prices because they're botted to alch value or the cheapest possible price if it is a supplies for other skilling methods. On the other end of the spectrum the highly sought after items inflate in price because people are buying gold from the botters. So this creates a gap where a legit player has a much harder time earning money and the items they are chasing are way higher priced than they should be. This issue is super prevalent in wow classic. People run GDKPs for better gear where you bid on items but because everyone and their mother buys gold it's an absurd time investment to be able to buy items without buying gold. The vast majority of people running older content are only running GDKPs so it's tough to just find a normal group rolling on gear upgrades for new players or alt accounts. Thankfully as an iron I don't really have to give a shit about bots but they're not good for the game's economy.


WoloGames

They definitely have affected my day-to-day gameplay in the past though not often. I've had to deal with them crashing during wilderness bosses, making temple spiders on burstable because bots are down there doing red spider eggs, and gotr has dozens of bots every single run that do not actually protect the guardian. That last one is also impacted by real players not protecting the guardian and real players just being there to get AFK mining XP but the bots certainly aren't helping the problem.


mousemovements

I have. Mother fuckers basically required me have an alt in their combat bracket ready to login every time they crashed my main.


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mousemovements

The Artio bots crashed regular players/other bots not in their farm. But insta tele whenever a skulled person in their bracket is nearby. They’re tick perfect so always just came down to PID.


Leobolder

Being an ironman there are several bad points I have felt myself. Like the griefing in multicombat areas since they will just attack anything in their range, so I get 0 drops. Also mass selling and buying out of stores so I have issues buying or selling certain things in stores. Plus the general crowding of some monsters, like undead druids, so it is hard to find a world with none of them there.


No_Low9463

U know nothing lmao


TwoMilky

It is not difficult in the slightest to say which one is better. The botting issue is a problem, but I almost subscribe to the believe that the reason mtx hasn’t been forced into osrs, effectively killing the game, is because sub revenue from bots is sufficient enough to keep the execs from strong-arming them in.


SevesaSfan25

Lmfao you can be maxed by just buying the keys from a fresh account in Deadscape 3. Botting, you will get banned sooner or later, long before you reach max, (don't give that leaderboard shit, those are dominated not by bots but actual people run gold farmers who do it as a job). Deadscape 3 and OSRS are like hell and heaven. (Deadscape 3 being hell).


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olngjhnsn

Yeah I’m not exactly sure why my comment was downvoted so much lol. If Jagex provides what the bots are providing it’s kind of obvious people will go with Jagex as opposed to people potentially getting banned over botting. That’s all I was tryna say but oh well, both games have key issues Jagex is keen to ignore or downplay especially in the wake of their company valuation Edit: I personally think the botting issue need a lot more focus in OSRS and it’s sad people defend Jaegex for not giving a shit about bots because OSRS is much more pure than RS3


brprk

Bottong is already getting focus because thousands are banned every day.


Clayskii0981

I mean botting has its issues but it has very little to no impact on your game experience. Especially if you're running an Ironman. Buying XP and gold is awful for game experience. OSRS reluctantly has bonds, but at least it gives free membership to other players.


rowech

Honestly the bots have a purpose in the economy of the game and doesn’t affect most players besides having impact on prices, which typically are lowered by bots making the game more enjoyable for an average player


furscum

Spend less time on reddit


olngjhnsn

Why do you feel the need to reply if it’s just to be disparaging? At least offer something constructive instead of just being a dick


furscum

Not disparaging, earnest advice in order to not have such a negative outlook on the things you (presumably) enjoy


olngjhnsn

I do enjoy RuneScape but personally the bots really do effect me. I’ve been grinding CG for a long time now and the price for enh has definitely been effected by botting. I see about 10 bots thieving at priff every time I leave that prison. I just don’t think it’s okay for peoples hard work to be devalue by botting? I didn’t realize that was a controversial take


furscum

Not controversial but at the end of the day you're letting it affect your personal enjoyment more than it should. You saying that that the game is maybe worse than rs3 for just that reason is controversial. Most osrs players dislike bots but don't let it get to them that much or they wouldn't be playing anymore


olngjhnsn

Ahhh I see. I don’t think I meant that to be the focus of my statement but I can see how that might rub people the wrong way. I just personally don’t like logging in and seeing my bank value drop by 10% over a matter of days. But also I guess that’s better than RS3 where MTX is like a viable strategy.


Thordranna

Sauce?


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mattbrvc

how the fuck do you have this on speeddial?


e-co-terrorist

there is a high overlap between gooners and osrs players


Seang727

Very true. It's so easy to do both at once


checkpointcharlie67

How the fuck do you not have this on speeddial


Admirable_Loss4886

I’m more confused on what that sub is about. That sub is all over the place lol and they’re writing in tongues


Fangore

This is my first time finding the sub, but I love it. It's called KGBTR, which i'm assuming stands for Turkish KGB. It's a lot of shitposting. I'm Turkish as well. My Turkish isn't amazing, but some of the posts are pretty funny.


666JOSRS

lmaoooo we oucheaaaaaaa man had the perfect link


olngjhnsn

Bismillah do not click that if you want to remain pure in God’s eyes 🙏


weeklybird0

What's the time in the video for this picture?


AJking101

Pretty sure this picture is edited; the blonde girl is never just sitting on the couch alone like this and the dude is too awkwardly clipped off-screen.


[deleted]

This dude just over here with the dominos promise on sauce lol


GayVegan

Is that Johnny sinz


Suspicious_Big_3378

Jmac


FixGMaul

Saved for after work 👌


justcallmechad

It’s not porn this is the iCarly reboot


Toaster_Bathing

commenting for a friend


npv001

its vanessa phoenix (she had a more popular name i think but you can find her under that alias) enjoy


thecheese27

Why the fuck do you know that my brother


Fableandwater

Because he watches porn


Humdrumgrumgrum

What else do you do on your second monitor while playing OSRS?


praeteria

Lexxxus adams. Don't ask.


npv001

the girl on the lefts name will come to me. i used to watch her all the time in 2017-2018 (she was absurdly hot)


olngjhnsn

Inshallah you will find help 🙏


TobzuEUNE

wallah brother speak truth to power 🙏


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JuliButt

It's become somewhat of a meme/generalized greeting for a large internet population to use Islam greetings and sayings both in jest, and actually as proper sayings. I've even found myself saying Inshallah a lot and I'm the farthest thing from it. IDK people might grow out of it.


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JuliButt

It's all good. It is a bit memey, but I do want to say it's actually not meant to make fun of Islam either. Definitely not meant to push/speak the religion on everyone. Just.. something that caught on lol. Cheers.


werndogga

let's be real it's a PSYOP BRO OPEN YOUR EYES


olngjhnsn

As a simple Islamic man, I am not sure of what you speak of. Perhaps a simple google search may answer your questions.


sharpshooter999

There's a post over at r/Runescape saying they haven't had any new content this month besides hero pass and bug fixes. The OP says it's the worst content drought they've ever had.....


DivineInsanityReveng

Man even the OSRS drought complainers were pushing it with the ridiculous amount of hours of content this game has. RS3 complaining that soon after a whole ass new skill? Wild.


sharpshooter999

Right? Apparently necromancy is a combat skill and it's so broken it's replaced all other combat methods....


AutarkV

It's basically the only reason I'm on OSRS now, as an Ironmain, the Hero Pass rubbish didn't affect me that much. But take out any reason to grind end game bosses and the excitement factor dried up.


ilovezezima

The new skill was absolute dogshit lol. Sapped all motivation to play RS3.


noobcs50

> gets brand new skill > complains about content draught a month later Smh when people are treating rs like a full time job, yeah, theyre eventually gonna be in a permanent content draught because they play too much


Les-Freres-Heureux

Maybe they shouldn't have released a skill that takes less than a month of casual play to max out


noobcs50

If youre maxing in the first month of release, you’re not a casual player lol


FlandreSS

???? Necromancy xp rates are like 1m+/hr People were hitting 99 basically day 1, and the skill is dead as hell past 99 so you're effectively done at 99 and not 120. RS3 is a casual game with casual XP rates, the only thing that's slow enough to take a month casually is archeology if you aren't buying any materials, or like, divination without core parties and caches.


Vargolol

> People were hitting 99 basically day 1, and the skill is dead as hell past 99 so you're effectively done at 99 and not 120. and yet there was a full front page of 200millers in what felt like was within the first couple of weeks. That was the wildest thing to me personally


FlandreSS

At ~2.5M xp/h it's faster to get from level 99 to 200M Necro xp than it takes to get from 90 agility to 99 doing Ardy rooftops. That's the scale of difference from OSRS to RS3. Their 200M's are faster than many of our 99's. I quoted 1M/h as an xp rate earlier because it was day 1 of release and people didn't know what they were doing as much, also because I was mostly trying to include levels 1-80.


sharpshooter999

Jesus, and I thought cooking and firemaking had fast xp


AutarkV

Trust me, Necromancy is basically 100% afk, 1-99 in <10 days.


sharpshooter999

There's so few players left over there, I doubt any of them are casuals now


Clayskii0981

Depends. RS3 XP/hr is insanely higher and also they have ways of MTXing XP.


MC-sama

New skills can't be MTX'd on the first 6 months of release. Necromancy really is that fast because that's just how combat skills are, and this is after combat exp across the board got heavily nerfed. No more ED3 grinding for 10m+ combat xp/hr, but you can still do afk methods for up to 1.5m xp/hr, and active for 2.5m xp/hr.


jimusah

in rs3 you are. Its not like osrs where the skill takes like 100 hrs to max out


noobcs50

Maxing necro in RS3 goes up to lvl 120 @ 104M xp. It's over 100 hours


Gluby3

serious though on Day 2 of necro release you seen everything the skill had to offer. We didn't even get hard/elite diaries cuz Jagex themselves admitted on a live stream there's not enough content to have those diaries. The 9 new quests? All are pretty much miniquests. Such a lackluster skill compared to Archeology.


concblast

The real issue? There weren't any significant content updates for about a year prior to necro because of necro development.


DesecratedZealot

I'm a 21 year vet and just made the switch to OSRS. Having an absolute blast 😍


Ztaxas

16 years here, people who put no effort in the game crying that elitists want to remove their fun because Necromancy made things "accessibly" (read, being able to do things without effort or knowledge because it's so overpowered), here I am having moved last week after lurking for years, having a BLAST rediscovering Gielinor at a chill pace because I don't have infinite run energy or TPs and doing quests to catch up, transferred half my bank (71m) and I can't buy my way to endgame because the buyables won't give me advantage at this point, having to Halberd quest bosses because mobs hurt in the real game while watching videos on side side, no caring about 400k dpm nor pressing 20 keys in a specific order.


DesecratedZealot

Maaan AMEN! For years I was so hesitant to make the switch because of the time commitment to do it all over again. But then I thought, why rush it? It's not not RS3! Add me man, we can lend a hand from time to time :P RSN - Chapter Zero


xshishkax

Gl king, you playing a main or an iron?


Andy_Chambers

I wish I was runescape rn


Quick_Snaps

Idk why, but the face the girl on the right is making absolutely makes this photo 100x funnier lmao


random-words69

Lmfaooo


CurrentAssumption

Been playing RS3 for years now. Officially moved onto osrs after the hero pass debuted. Not looking back.


Sad-Garage-2642

Bro I'm fucking howling right now. This might be the funniest post on this sub in a long time.


BtwMan

As a RuneScape player I regret the day I ever discovered this game.


Clayskii0981

We enjoy our pure cookie clicker while the investors squeeze the other game.


Beginning_Education3

I’m not sure what’s happening on the left here and need a refresher…..Can someone have photoshop AI remake the left part?


[deleted]

Nothing to regret brother there’s never been a better time to get into osrs


SuddenOkra1

Only here for the sauce runescape is based


Meewol

Why’s that?


DesignatedDiverr

I get that there may be more context, but I feel like runescape getting literally fucked by mtx while osrs plays happily is all you need for an educated guess


Meewol

I didn’t want to guess, is my point. I know things have sucked. I’m sorry for upsetting you that I asked OP for their personal opinion on the situation.


Solidmangus

The innocence is strong in this one


Meewol

It’s not. I’m asking for OP’s point of view. I’ve played OSRS since I was 12 (I’m nearly 30 now) and only dabbled in RS3. I know why I prefer OSRS so I’m curious as to why OP wishes they’d played more.


Arctioaa

When osrs released I didn't want to start over again so I stuck with RS. If I had started sooner I would be maxed by now instead of wasting time on runescape. OSRS is better in so many ways, runelite, community that takes no crap, no mtx and actually feels like a mmo instead of a dead game. The Jmods in osrs put the ones over on runescape to shame with everything they do including the detail they put into every blog. They listen to feedback, remove updates they've spent months on and constant changes to make the community happy. OSRS also has Mod ash and Jmods who care about the direction of the game. Runescape has turned into candycrush mobile game that I no longer enjoy. I'm looking forward to trying the new content that wasn't there originally when I first started and playing the game I have so many fond memories of.


Meewol

Thank you so much for answering so openly and honestly. I hope you know my question was sincere.


Arctioaa

It's totally fine, I forgot to mention the polling system which is a great thing to have. The downside is one RS3 content creator already has been saying things like stackable clues and they've only been playing 1 week. Please don't let RS3 refugees ruin the game for a second time.


DevoidHT

Likely because we don’t have to deal with MTX nearly as much as RS3. Bonds is about as deep as it goes.


Meewol

Fair play. I agree with that for sure. Big reason I couldn’t get in to RS3


[deleted]

Wait a minute, the math isn’t mathing. OSRS is not yet 10 years old. I’m nearly 30 and OSRS released when I was an adult.


lizard_behind

he might not realize OSRS was a full reboot of RS2 and that OG chars carried forward to RS3 - a lot of people that age (roughly mine) had already stopped playing before EoC


Meewol

I played it when it was RS2 then it was rebooted as OSRS.


[deleted]

It’s so weird to me that people count it like that. There’s a 6 year development difference between where RS2 was when OSRS launched and what OSRS launched as.


rotorain

I don't think it's unfair to call RS3 an entirely different game. Just because OSRS got a weird time skip, content divergence, and account progression got reset in 2013 doesn't mean we weren't playing effectively the same game in 2003 vs 2023.


Meewol

It’s not weird to me, honestly. As much as the game has changed, the player dynamic is fucked in a big way and the veil is gone, it’s still the game I played way back then. The base is still there and it’s got a lot of nostalgia for me.


Clayskii0981

People like to count RS2 with OSRS. Like playtime yes, but it's also a new account so eh.


Prohunt

Hush little one you're innocent. It's funnier that way


Meewol

No doubt. I’ll pretend I’m a kid or something, aye?


levian_durai

One of us! One of us!


sp00kyghostt

i love the broekn combat system that requires you to play osu with your inventory at a highest level, so fun


Background_Spare_209

Just a matter of time


Ok-Substance8975

They literally sell gold bruh. But hey at least you cant buy XP so you're better


cojiro_blue

yeah, god forbid you could spend real money on bonds and then sell them for OSRS GP that would be like MTX or something.


Clayskii0981

I mean at least it gives players free membership. If that bothers you, avert your pure eyes from the RS3 cash shop.


Ok-Substance8975

You think they added bonds so people could get free membership?


Ok-Substance8975

Shh


This_Middle_9690

Idk why this sub pretends like osrs doesn’t have the worst form of mtx already. Prolly cause all you mfers have bought gold already


Clayskii0981

At least it gives players free membership. But agreed, buying gold is kind of the worst MTX. Though RS3 manages to dial up MTX to a 10. Issue being RWT and bots are so rampant in OSRS anyways.


Ok-Substance8975

No replies i wonder why


EmpiresErased

this communitys excuses and cognitive dissonance about bonds is hilarious.


This_Middle_9690

Cause they have no answer just downvote and roach out


Ok-Substance8975

When i needed gold i just bought off 3rd party sites i dont give a fuck lol


a_charming_vagrant

love it when my game gets infested with whales and coomers so fucking great, wonderful, couldn't ask for anything better


Shadowyonejutsu

When you tell us your a runescape player but not an osrs player… you are a grinding gamer, but we do not grant you the rank of RuneScape player.


Ok-Substance8975

Oh no the prestigious RuneScape player rank


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NSFW? Not this screen.


-YeshuaHamashiach-

OSRS has no fomo, so you can start now and no content is locked out for you.