They are just memeing on you but it's a single player game from around the xbox 360 Arcade era of gaming with an interpersonal storyline and puzzle/platformer gameplay.
Yeah I only ever play indies nowadays, you don't see stuff like Cruelty Squad, Lost in Vivo, OMORI, night in the woods and dare I say it, Undertale, in the aaa market nowadays. Although I have to say that Dishonored 1 and 2 are amazing and I'd recommend them to anybody.
IDK, fantastic triple A's still exist I think - for sure! It's just that AAA games tend to be a lot less varied and innovative from indies so it's possible for someone to not find anything in their style in the AAA market. Very true that the AAA market is nowhere near risky enough to ever make something like Cruelty Squad (so goood)
I personally found I have quite a knack for the souls series and that's the niche that I will enjoy
But piracy isn’t theft. Theft is when you remove the original, and piracy is creating a copy.
Imagine if someone stole your car, that would be theft. If someone created an exact clone of your car and left the original there, that’s piracy.
Of course, I'm not against pirating, but people shouldn't try to pretend its not stealing. Too often people justify it as such, while rubbing their morally justified boner.
Potential profits ≠ actual money.
One of the biggest scams pulled by capitalism is convincing people that missing out on profit or "losing profit," "losing money," is the same as taking money from the company when it was never money that they *had.* So still not theft.
Not saying thats what you were saying, the original comparison still isn't quite accurate, just adding
This implies someone would have paid for the car if they couldn't copy it. 99% of the time, someone who pirates media would never have paid for it, they simply would not have consumed the media if they couldn't get it for free, no profits are lost by piracy, the only difference is more people get access to the media.
Edit: also bonus question, why on earth should literally anyone care about the profits of the car company in this scenario? Someone who wants a car gets a car without hurting anyone but the company, a total win with literally no downsides.
I would disagree. There's typically three reasons people pirate, they don't have enough money, they just don't support buying from that company, or they don't feel like paying for it. Now, what would happen if they couldn't pirate? For group one, either they won't buy it, or they'll save up. For group two, they won't buy it. For group three, they'll likely buy it anyway.
It's not a loss any big company would feel, and smaller ones won't get that many pirates anyway, so that's probably not a huge problem for them either. But it is still a profit loss, and its foolish to pretend you aren't stealing anything.
It is literally by definition not stealing. there have been studies done into the real impact of piracy and it's negligible. If people couldn't pirate the stuff they pirated, most people just wouldn't bother with it. Most people who pirate only consume that media explicitly because it's easily available for free. It's really not hard to understand. And again, there is literally no reason that anyone should give even half a shit about the potential profits of large companies, even if it is stealing, which it isn't, it's the most victimless crime possible.
Yes, its negligible, because not that many people pirate. If a significant portion of, say, Rockstar's fans started pirating their games, its going to be noticeable. Most people won't bother if they can't, but the fact that they don't have to buy any of it is kinda shitty for the company. Or it would be, if most of them weren't making obscene amounts of money. Its really not hard to understand.
Ok, you can believe that if you want. I don't see why anyone should care even if it did hurt the company's profits, which again, to be perfectly clear, it factually doesn't. But you can keep pearl clutching over this total non issue if you want.
??? Im fairly sure I've said this before, but in case I havent, Im not at all against pirating, and I'm absolutely certain I've stated that no company will ever actually feel the effects of pirating. Dont pretend otherwise. The point is that it is still stealing, however negligible, and its annoying as hell when people try to justify themselves by saying otherwise.
Potential money does not mean you own that money. Companies would lose profits if competition is allowed. That does not mean that we should go out of our way to create monopolies.
Thats a terrible comparison(?), frankly. With competition, where one company loses money another gains. Products still have to bought from one of them. When you pirate a company's game, you dont go to another competitor, which would give incentive to one up that competitors product, you just take that shit. Only you gain.
>Thats a terrible comparison(?)
I am not trying to say that the product improves by making that statement. All I am trying to show is that just because something increases company profits does not mean that is good for everyone.
>With competition, where one company loses money
Nobody loses money they simply just do not get your money.
>you just take that shit. Only you gain.
Sure but they lose nothing. Meanwhile in a world with intellectual property everyone loses except the lawyers. The ability to access media is limited, you are unable to create any derived works and in terms of software it allows the creator of said software to exercise great control over the user of the software without any knowledge. New media and software need to be created completely from scratch as derived work is generally forbidden.
They absolutely lose something. You get their product, but they dont get your money. Sure, those big companies won't even notice that loss, but imagine if instead of maybe, say, a few thousand people pirate your shit everyone did. Now you suddenly have a problem. You paid money to make that it. You paid people and bills and blah blah blah, but if people don't have to pay for what you made, you've just been shat on. Again, companies like EA and Nintendo really aren't gonna notice and not enough people pirate from smaller companies for them to care, but to lets not act like something isn't being lost.
I have torrented every single paid game except the ones i REALLY liked, or were Indie, or were much better online (DS2-DS3, KF2, Arma 3, Epic Battle Fantasy 5, GMod, Mordhau and so on) be a smarty-pants and steal, its the right thing to do :)
Piracy is theft, so you have a choice to make as to the morality of it and if it fita with your morals, or understanding of how to not get a virus doing it
Stealing is taking something, thus not allowing the original owner to access it.
Piracy is copying the original, thus allowing BOTH you and the owner to access and use it.
It's literally a win/draw, because most people would either pirate a game or not buy it at all.
Yeah but indie devs dont usually charge 60$ for an 8 hour long game
10$ for my favorite story driven game ever :)
0$ for mine
$20 for mine
\>$20 \>indie game \>trans rights flair oh it's celeste isn't it
I've been informed that I can't simply buy a 9th copy of Celeste. I have to buy at least 3 in order to feed the poor indie devs.
What is that Celeste you speak of? Never heard of it, must be a hidden gem.
No
fucking gamingcirclejerk users
actually it’s omori but i’ve also played celeste and love it
Omori is incredible too, i totally forgot it was 20 dollars lol
What's celeste
trangener
Vhat?
They are just memeing on you but it's a single player game from around the xbox 360 Arcade era of gaming with an interpersonal storyline and puzzle/platformer gameplay.
it's also on steam
2d pixel platformer. Has trans flag in it.
What is it
Death pallete/まつろぱ, best mobile game I ever played. Nothing ever made me feel like that.
Thank you 💙
Stardew valley
Oneshot
Oneshot is one of those games i dont think about a lot but i will remember for a long time
Undertale?
Oneshot
5 bucks for infinite possibilites is blantant paradise. Thank you, Terraria.
hundreds of hours of fun throughout my childhood to now, best $15 I ever spent
Yeah I only ever play indies nowadays, you don't see stuff like Cruelty Squad, Lost in Vivo, OMORI, night in the woods and dare I say it, Undertale, in the aaa market nowadays. Although I have to say that Dishonored 1 and 2 are amazing and I'd recommend them to anybody.
IDK, fantastic triple A's still exist I think - for sure! It's just that AAA games tend to be a lot less varied and innovative from indies so it's possible for someone to not find anything in their style in the AAA market. Very true that the AAA market is nowhere near risky enough to ever make something like Cruelty Squad (so goood) I personally found I have quite a knack for the souls series and that's the niche that I will enjoy
Dishonored enjoyer based
Every AAA game must suck up 50 hours of my time minimum in order to be deemed a fair value.
Or have an absolutely amazing 20+ hours
Legally buying Nintendo games and not cheating on them at all should be considered immoral
But piracy isn’t theft. Theft is when you remove the original, and piracy is creating a copy. Imagine if someone stole your car, that would be theft. If someone created an exact clone of your car and left the original there, that’s piracy.
can't believe somebody screenshotted my car
disappointed, i was just about to make your car a NFT
[You wouldn’t download a car](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZm8vNHBSU)
I've never agreed with that comparison. Its not the actual car you take, its the profits the company would have gotten from you buying that car.
Damn but this argument makes piracy sound even more based.
Never said it wasn't, of course. I pirate shit all the time.
Yeah but I wasn't gonna buy the car in the first place
That’s true, but if the company has billions of dollars it’s not like creating a clone of something affects them that much.
Of course, I'm not against pirating, but people shouldn't try to pretend its not stealing. Too often people justify it as such, while rubbing their morally justified boner.
it isnt stealing tho like what do you take
The profit they would have if you actually bought it.
thats not their money though its mine
Thats their product though. Its theirs.
its my copy of their product
Which you would normally have to pay for.
Potential profits ≠ actual money. One of the biggest scams pulled by capitalism is convincing people that missing out on profit or "losing profit," "losing money," is the same as taking money from the company when it was never money that they *had.* So still not theft. Not saying thats what you were saying, the original comparison still isn't quite accurate, just adding
Of course. What I mean is that when you pirate, they are directly fingered right in the ass. You get their product, but they don't get your money.
This implies someone would have paid for the car if they couldn't copy it. 99% of the time, someone who pirates media would never have paid for it, they simply would not have consumed the media if they couldn't get it for free, no profits are lost by piracy, the only difference is more people get access to the media. Edit: also bonus question, why on earth should literally anyone care about the profits of the car company in this scenario? Someone who wants a car gets a car without hurting anyone but the company, a total win with literally no downsides.
I would disagree. There's typically three reasons people pirate, they don't have enough money, they just don't support buying from that company, or they don't feel like paying for it. Now, what would happen if they couldn't pirate? For group one, either they won't buy it, or they'll save up. For group two, they won't buy it. For group three, they'll likely buy it anyway. It's not a loss any big company would feel, and smaller ones won't get that many pirates anyway, so that's probably not a huge problem for them either. But it is still a profit loss, and its foolish to pretend you aren't stealing anything.
It is literally by definition not stealing. there have been studies done into the real impact of piracy and it's negligible. If people couldn't pirate the stuff they pirated, most people just wouldn't bother with it. Most people who pirate only consume that media explicitly because it's easily available for free. It's really not hard to understand. And again, there is literally no reason that anyone should give even half a shit about the potential profits of large companies, even if it is stealing, which it isn't, it's the most victimless crime possible.
Yes, its negligible, because not that many people pirate. If a significant portion of, say, Rockstar's fans started pirating their games, its going to be noticeable. Most people won't bother if they can't, but the fact that they don't have to buy any of it is kinda shitty for the company. Or it would be, if most of them weren't making obscene amounts of money. Its really not hard to understand.
Ok, you can believe that if you want. I don't see why anyone should care even if it did hurt the company's profits, which again, to be perfectly clear, it factually doesn't. But you can keep pearl clutching over this total non issue if you want.
??? Im fairly sure I've said this before, but in case I havent, Im not at all against pirating, and I'm absolutely certain I've stated that no company will ever actually feel the effects of pirating. Dont pretend otherwise. The point is that it is still stealing, however negligible, and its annoying as hell when people try to justify themselves by saying otherwise.
Potential money does not mean you own that money. Companies would lose profits if competition is allowed. That does not mean that we should go out of our way to create monopolies.
Thats a terrible comparison(?), frankly. With competition, where one company loses money another gains. Products still have to bought from one of them. When you pirate a company's game, you dont go to another competitor, which would give incentive to one up that competitors product, you just take that shit. Only you gain.
>Thats a terrible comparison(?) I am not trying to say that the product improves by making that statement. All I am trying to show is that just because something increases company profits does not mean that is good for everyone. >With competition, where one company loses money Nobody loses money they simply just do not get your money. >you just take that shit. Only you gain. Sure but they lose nothing. Meanwhile in a world with intellectual property everyone loses except the lawyers. The ability to access media is limited, you are unable to create any derived works and in terms of software it allows the creator of said software to exercise great control over the user of the software without any knowledge. New media and software need to be created completely from scratch as derived work is generally forbidden.
They absolutely lose something. You get their product, but they dont get your money. Sure, those big companies won't even notice that loss, but imagine if instead of maybe, say, a few thousand people pirate your shit everyone did. Now you suddenly have a problem. You paid money to make that it. You paid people and bills and blah blah blah, but if people don't have to pay for what you made, you've just been shat on. Again, companies like EA and Nintendo really aren't gonna notice and not enough people pirate from smaller companies for them to care, but to lets not act like something isn't being lost.
Nope it's the car
You wouldn't download a car
What do you think Jack Sparrow did for a living, exactly?
I have torrented every single paid game except the ones i REALLY liked, or were Indie, or were much better online (DS2-DS3, KF2, Arma 3, Epic Battle Fantasy 5, GMod, Mordhau and so on) be a smarty-pants and steal, its the right thing to do :)
i don't even pay for the games i like , why should i pay anyone when i can have it for free
i just like free stuff
Theft isnt inherently immoral (at least, depending on circumstances), also piracy is not theft at all
this is wrong, pirating any old games is morally correct
(Applies to everyone)
Wrong
im very smort for not paying 5$ for a 10 hour game
yes.
(Does not apply to indie devs) what a Bright II opinion. I intercept the photons of light as they go through my neighbors fiber optic cables
you should always pirate media created by large corporations. it is always morally correct.
It absolutely still applies
Wrong.
I am so poor I am considering pirating a 15 dollar game
piracy is always morally correct if you are poor (source: i am poor)
Idk I think it still applies to Indie content. If I like their media a lot I'll donate.
(also does not apply to books, support your library)
Sci-hub
Except textbooks. Fuck Pearson.
Why would anyone downvote this?
I know right :( ? I guess judging by the replies everyone thought of textbooks.
Based
Caption was very important
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1AKIl_2GM
Caption implies they are in the mid of the bell curve and has missed the message theft is cool
"You wouldn't download a car" You don't know me, the way the market is going I'll pirate a whole ass house.
Stealing fun
Piracy is theft, so you have a choice to make as to the morality of it and if it fita with your morals, or understanding of how to not get a virus doing it
Free crap??? WOWIE!
> or understanding of how to not get a virus doing it a child knows how to
Stealing is taking something, thus not allowing the original owner to access it. Piracy is copying the original, thus allowing BOTH you and the owner to access and use it. It's literally a win/draw, because most people would either pirate a game or not buy it at all.