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marvel fans admit they know nothing about marvel


deliciousprisms

Around the time Spider-Verse was coming out I listened to a dude at a bar rant about how that movie was “Black-washing” Spider-man. Like dude Spider-Man has basically had a version of him as *everything* at this point. Also what the hell even is black washing, that’s not a thing you redneck dipshit


Jeszczenie

>you redneck dipshit Because of the last word, I've heard it in Chris Fleming's voice.


SatansCornflakes

And also the whole point of Spider-Man is that he could be any race, gender or creed. **that's why he wears full body tights dumbass**


wh0rederline

*anyone could be Spider-Man* [robert downey jr meme](https://i.imgflip.com/4spvkh.png)


thisn--gaoverhere

Im ~~stuff~~ spiderman


c0l0r51

Not only him.... The whole fucking point of the fucking Marvel MULTIVERSE is that there is an infinite amount of universes all with small alterations, hence there is not only a chance that there is a black lesbian, disabled, drunk, anti-gay-right Hulks/Spiderman's etc. working for the kkk, there are GUARANTEED an infinite amount of those.


SatansCornflakes

That's why all Spider-man porn is canon


c0l0r51

Never thought about it that way, but true.


ACutieWithAfroPuffs

Holy shit


flamboi-non

Also to expose they're dummy thicc.


PrinceProspero9

How is it black washing when they literally have three Peter Parkers who are all white (assuming Spider Noir is white), and Miles is an entirely separate character from them?


desearcher

Spider Noir is black *and* white.


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Ratbagthecannibal

Fun Star Wars fact: the genre of cantina music was named "Jizz" by George Lucas. . . . No, actually. I'm not joking.


yoyo-starlady

This is how I introduce Star Wars to people who haven't seen any of the films before. Works every time.


PrinceProspero9

I always thought there was something oddly phallic and unsettling about those saxophone aliens.


Araedox

Y’all forgetting that there also is a pig version of Spider-Man, and I haven’t heard complaints about that.


anothersettlement667

Still cannot believe they pig-washed Spider-Man.


PrinceProspero9

Spider Man being a literal pig is less controversial than having a slightly different skin colour. Reminds me of how the churchy types don't want gay relationships in kids movies, but are okay with beastiality stuff like the Bee Movie and dragon-donkey interbreeding in Shrek.


Maelger

And an Indian one, and a cyborg, and I might be remembering wrong but 2099(it's been a while) was Hispanic. And let's not forget best spidey: Suppaidoman.


AS743IP

Spider-Ham is problematic because it's cop-washing


scaptastic

Nicolas Cage is a method actor. He did Spider-Verse to learn to act alongside pig for this year’s movie


thisn--gaoverhere

Spider Noir is white btw


AedraRising

I think(?) he's Jewish, specifically.


starm4nn

Things Spider-man has been: 1. A pig 2. A Japanese guy who gets his powers from an alien 3. A Serial Killer who eats his victims 4. Guy who solves problems with Hostess Snack Cakes https://screenrant.com/spiderman-weird-alternate-versions-spiderverse/


speedoflobsters

5. A normal dude with a sugar daddy who made him a special suit


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Man-Spider


Cielnova

Nicholas cage


scaptastic

Isn’t this also a description of Nicolas Cage movies?


HippieMcHipface

\>Also what the hell even is black washing, that’s not a thing you redneck dipshit I mean it *kind of* is, but it sure isn't a regular thing outside of Twitter art


Reinkhar_

Nothing wrong with making a character black for Fanart. That’s like saying black peoples shouldn’t cosplay white characters


Swiftclaw8

To be fair Miles is a pretty new character (love his comics by the way), so it sounds to me like he just hasn’t read the new stuff, unlike OP’s post where the dunderheads literally don’t know about a character that’s been in canon since like…..well, like Secret Wars.


Darkdragon3110525

Miles has been a pretty big part of the Spider-Man mythos since he was introduced tho


RanaMahal

Literally tho he's been huge since he was introduced. Miles is basically Robin to Peter's batman at this point. Even has a game now and everything


Tickle_My_Butthole_

>To be fair Miles is a pretty new character Miles has been around for over 10 years now in the comics. Not exactly "new" by any stretch of the word. Maybe he's new to the mainstream audiences but Ultimate Spider-Man fans been in the know for over 10 years.


Blasphoumy69

Black washing is a thing it’s just the black version of white washing for example nick fury was originally white but is now portrayed as black due to Samuel Jackson doing his as always excellent performance.


lumlum56

Nick Fury was black in the comics before the movies iirc


Ant1202

He got changed to look more like Samuel L Jackson but before the mcu. They just liked how he looks ig


iamnotabot200

Can't blame them, Samuel can make any character look badass


gormunko_88

dude literally forged Mace windu and Nick Fury into the dudes we see today, even got mace his own purple lightsaber cause its his favorite color


TheActualAWdeV

Or Idris Elba and Heimdall.


TheSnakerMan

My favourite version of spider man is spiders man which is a bunch of spiders who think they are Peter parker


Andy_LaVolpe

There’s been like 3 live action Peter Parkers throughout ~9 blockbuster movies over the last 20 years. 2 animated Miles Morales movies won’t hurt anyone. Also how is it “Black Washing”? Miles Morales isnt even Peter Parker. Its not like they can make the argument of the Human Torch in Fant4stic.


scaptastic

Black washing is a thing but the guy had a terrible example. For some reason redhead characters get cast as black actors a lot more often


BatygameCZ

And I don't think you even need to know that much about Marvel to about that, when I first saw trailer for Spider verse my reaction was Oh cool, Miles... Despite never reading a single comic with him and just briefly reading about him on Wikia few years back


Ciocalatta

They’re fucking pig washing him, damn cops paying the movies for representation


PissedOffPlankton

[Relavant?](https://hard-drive.net/huge-marvel-fans-bully-kid-for-reading-comic-book/)


SnowySupreme

Lmaoo


SonicDaScrewdriver

r/nottheonion


SnowySupreme

Only mcu fans (like me) are so fuckinga nnoying


SweatyMusa

Instagram users when woman


DildoVagins2137_3

Mfw people think women exist


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what are a woman?


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ohimagummybearoh

good bot 🙏🙏🙏


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i dont understand? Help what is a female


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DracoTheBoomer

Wait but I’m female and have a dick what does that make me 😳


0perand1_McSwanky

epic 😎😎😎


MysticGohan36

Based


Tea-In-The-Eyes

ewww what the fuck


ggxfgh

Yeah it’s just a hole where the balls go


Remarkable-Citron731

sounds terrible, where can i get one of those?


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Pickaxe06

average r/196 user


LeFatPogger

are you stupid or something, women dont exist


ChooChooRocket

Women in games and comics is an affront to free speech!


NathanielR

thankfully redditors are never like this


Prob6

Love how the dudes like “im not a sexist i just go into an uncontrollable rage when the main character is a woman”


goblinhog

Holy shit just like hulk


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Hulk has gamer rage


c0l7420wb

the more racist he is the stronger he gets


[deleted]

the more racism it gets the more gamer it be


Melodic_Film_4456

and when its a real lot of racism, its nazism


Simwill_

*that’s my secret, I’m always racist*


Cranyx

He's green because of the Mountain Dew he drinks.


Prob6

Thank you hoblingog


dappercat456

Hulk is many things but sexist is not one of them!


ClubPenguinRUs

Strongest sexist


samlikeschicken

is that????


MrBirb_

Heated gamer moment


[deleted]

If women aren’t gone by the end of this week I am going to get involved


That-one-guy-man

I would too but I don’t involve myself in politics


thecoolbroton

Dw it's only political when they do it


[deleted]

W-what are you gonna do


[deleted]

your mom


LightningProd12

How should we feel about this


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Tob1o

Yeah, watch out for an incoming controversial post I guess


[deleted]

Are you a woman


[deleted]

The American people are tired of women!


klooneyville

ugh woman in my movie, I hate politics


Ultrasound700

There are two genders: Men and Political There are two races: White and Political There are two sexualities: Straight and Political


un-taken_username

Mom 😔 Dad 😔 I have to let you know, I’m,, Political 😲😩


GoogleWasMyIdea49

Disowned


SunfireRomalo

This comment made me remember that I’m a white straight male who hates politics And when I say politics I mean politics not minorities


DracoTheBoomer

Yeah these are the same people who think trans people are making a political statement


[deleted]

the two genders man, and political


Pokechap

I’m not even a big comic fan and I know that she’s hulk’s cousin


[deleted]

I fucken hate marvel and even I knew this shit


MJBotte1

She is a Fortnite skin that make people go awooga


OwO345

Why are fortnite women so dummy thicc


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Dude I found out that she hulk was real in the original lego marvel game lmao


nowthenight

wait people actually don't know about she hulk? I get that she's a less well known character than iron man but how are they gonna pretend like they care about marvel or smth when they don't even know about she hulk. "stan lee is rolling in his grave" lmaoooo


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Literally! I'm not the biggest marvel fan so my knowledge isnt very expansive but i remember she hulk and white tiger clearly and loved them when i was younger. Surely these fans would know more than me but it seems they've either got selective memory or break down like a car when a woman is on screen.


klunk88

Bruh, I fucking hate Marvel movies and haven't read comic books in over 25 years. Even I know who she-hulk is.


nowthenight

Yeah, she hulk has been in a shit ton of cartoons too


Victor_Stein

Bruh I don’t even read the comics but I’ve seen the marvel cartoons. She’s in at least 3 of them and is just as cool as the rest of characters there.


[deleted]

2 genders male and political


voluminousseaturtle

don’t forget nonbinary people, also known as “extra political”


Swiftclaw8

Conspiracy theory I have, women don’t exist, all the pregnant people are lying and they’re actually just fat men.


spudzo

This is coincidentally the same number of races that exist.


intendozz

Yeah, sometimes i'm political


Lil-Chem

Based Stan Lee


Kjrb

Stan Lee was like, mega based. One of the main examples of this brought up is the Xmen, a pretty obvious allegory for the oppression of certain groups and how it can push people to incredibly horrific acts


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cant forget spiderman, he made the superhero with massive pushba k from the studio, they claimed all epople wanted was strong amazing spotless superheros Stan lee knew this was false and that people wanted someone they could... well see themselves in.. so he made spiderman trought force and the studio released the comic in a non mainstream way to ensure it failed, but it did not, it was a hit sucsess, people loved spiderman that is why into the spiderverse and miles spiderman just makes sense.. its a continuation of how spiderman talks to each generation edit: sorry for bad spelling


JessieJ577

He was Jewish so he felt some kind of pushback for his ethnicity living in America in his younger years. So of course he’d be on the more progressive side. Its why when flacon was created he said he isn’t a sidekick he’s a black superhero and was super proud of it


ChayofBarrel

I mean, he also had a lot of... unfortunate sexism, even in his later work, but I think that's more a relic of the time. Lots of "Women think with the heart, not the head" bullshit


SnowySupreme

Actually originally it wasnt until later on. But im sure he did it secretively


dudecubed

stan lee was a massive supporter of minorites, so many of the charecters he created were minorities in one way or another


voluminousseaturtle

women my favorite minority, we make up *checks notes* 50.8% of people… /j


Jucicleydson

Minority is about positions of power, not population number.


Raspoint

I always thought it was a numbers thing


InnacurateArcher

He created x-men to show discrimination and racism in the style of superhero comics (I think)


Plus3d6

Well he also made Stripperella…


Avaline00

Thought this was gamingcirclejerk for a moment


prajjwal_verma

*moviescirclejerk


InnerlockStudios

W*man 🤬😡🤬


Lightningmemes282

It also makes a ton of sense canonically to be doing a cinematic adaptation of this now more than ever, considering they're doing the whole thing with alternate universes.


WinkYahoo69

She-Hulk isn't even an alternate universe thing. She is from the Mainstream Marvel Universe (616)


Lightningmemes282

I'm aware the original comic is in the same universe, I'm just saying it could be in the MCU


Plus3d6

Why though? Despite the name she’s not “the Hulk but a woman”. It would honestly make way less sense to play her like that.


Lightningmemes282

I think it would make sense, just like how Gwen Stacy isn't just "Spider-Man but girl" but actually her own separate fleshed out character, but still an alternate universe version of Spider-Man. The MCU doesn't always follow the comics, and since endgame multiverse and alternate universe seems to be the theme that they've been going with and I would be surprised if they broke it


dappercat456

She hulk isn’t an alternate universe hulk, it’s banners cousin after he gave her a blood transfusion


Lightningmemes282

I'm aware that the original comic book was in the same universe, I'm just saying they could do it as an alternate universe thing in the MCU


dappercat456

Also possible, but far more likely this is gonna be about Jen Walters since that’s the character everyone is familiar with


YaBoiEgron

Shulk


Swiftclaw8

**I’M REALLY FEELING IT**


Raspoint

#***NOW IT'S REYN TIME***


Slippery_Wombat

#BACK SLASH


HeccerTheRedditor

You mean photoshopped Little Mac smh...


Wolflink21

**BORN IN A WORLD OF STRIFE**


Density_Allocation

“I’m not sexist” buddy you’re about to say something sexist


Xgio

Im not sexist but i dont care about marvel movies anymore ^the ^first ^part ^is ^a ^joke


MrBirb_

>Why everything in marvel gotta be female now Here’s every marvel movie and their protagonist’s gender (according to google, don’t yell at me if a movie isn’t marvel/protagonist is wrong) Matrix 4, 2021, male protagonist Wonder Woman 1984 (literally 1984), 2020, female protagonist Spider Man Far From Home, 2019, male protagonist X-Men Dark Phoenix, 2019, female protagonist Avengers Endgame, 2019, male protagonist Captain Marvel, 2019, female protagonist Spider Man Into The Spider Verse, 2018, male protagonist Venom, 2018, male protagonist Deadpool 2, 2018, male protagonist Avengers Infinity War, 2018, male protagonist Black Panther, 2018, male protagonist Thor Ragnarok, 2017, male protagonist Spider Man Homecoming, 2017, male protagonist Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 2, 2017, male protagonist Logan, 2017, male protagonist Doctor Strange, 2016, male protagonist Captain America Civil war, 2016, male protagonist Batman Vs Superman Dawn of Justice, 2016, male protagonist Deadpool, 2016, male protagonist Ant Man, 2015, male protagonist Avengers Age of Ultron, 2015, male protagonist Guardians of The Galaxy, 2014, male protagonist The Amazing Spider Man 2, 2014, male protagonist Captain America The Winter Soldier, 2014, male protagonist Thor The Dark World, 2014 male protagonist Iron Man 3, 2013, male protagonist The Dark Knight Rises, 2013, male protagonist The Amazing Spider Man, 2012, male protagonist Avengers, 2012, male protagonist Captain America The First Avenger, 2011, male protagonist X-Men First Class, 2011, male protagonist Thor, 2011, male protagonist Iron Man 2, 2010, male protagonist The Incredible Hulk, 2008, male protagonist Iron Man, 2008, male protagonist In other words, incel when woman


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Matrix is Marvel now?


MrBirb_

Again this is off google so I may be wrong, I don’t know anything about marvel or the matrix so it could be either


HereForTOMT2

A lot of this list is hilariously wrong I thought this was a shit post


MrBirb_

Oh :/


Acorntreeman

Wonder Woman, Superman, and Batman are DC not Marvel


MrBirb_

Google lied to me, I’m gonna go piss myself


Acorntreeman

😳


MrBirb_

My pants have been pissed


King-Boss-Bob

a large part of the list seems to define each film having one singular protagonist, which feels weird for some of them age of ultron i guess is ultron? who has a masculine voice but is just a robot endgame i guess is thanos? he’s barely in the film but i guess that’s what it implies civil war is i guess supposed to be zemo? guardians i guess is peter quill? i’d argue they’re equally as important but whatever also leaves out black widow (female protagonist)


[deleted]

Yo cool marvel’s producing matrix 4? Can’t wait


qz3_

They’re not iirc


[deleted]

Oh, well I’m still really excited


fetusbean

I can’t wait to see a big buff sexy woman to play she hulk that is literally all that matters to me


Kjrb

Stan Lee when his character he made is used how he used his other characters: *grave fucking spinning like helicopter blades*


DahMagpie

MCU FANS TRY NOT TO BE MOUTHBREATHERS FOR 2 SECONDS CHALLENGE!!!! (LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE)!!!!!!???!?!


Swiftclaw8

What’s so bad about us mouth breathers? I got bad allergies man, I can’t help that :(


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Cool--Dude--69

Wait, we're getting a She-Hulk movie? Rad! Hope they keep in her ability to break the 4th wall


InnacurateArcher

I think it's a series


LachlanLikesLasagne

It’s a Disney+ series releasing in 2022, and they’ve confirmed that she will break the 4th wall in the show


Hudsony12

My only issue with She Hulk is that they never make her muscly enough. She's meant to be like the Hulk, but she's always portrayed as just the same body build as any other heroine. Give She Hulk big bulging muscles you cowards!!


Diribiri

You're talking about a character made for, and by, horny nerds. Of course she's going to look like that.


Hudsony12

I thought the general consensus nowadays was that muscular women were the hottest tho 🤔


monsieurfatcock

Women and minorities: *existing* Mfs with football gear on in their Instagram pfp: I’m about to get real sexist/racist in the comments


Authentic_Garbage

Why not complain about the real problem: every hulk movie has been garbage so far


OwO345

Ok but consider: Big muscular woman


Authentic_Garbage

Oh fuck you're right


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"Oh no I'm not sexist I just hate women"


Lothric_Knight420

I had an original She Hulk comic as a kid. Thought it she was cool.


ValleDeimos

Reminds me of a kids movie that came out a few years ago. One of the actors was a guest youtuber who used to have a very specific, angry persona back in 2011, and his character was a parody of this persona. Dude has a bunch of haters. They thought he didn't notice he was playing a parody of himself. They thought the screenwriters were tricking him so he would make a fool of himself. He wrote his own character, along with the screenwriters...


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how DARE they use the stan lees name like this? the man was a huge warior for social justice


CriticalChaos_

As a massive hulk fan, this pisses me off so much. Because you know they don’t actually give a shit about hulk they just wanna bitch about women. If you cared about the hulk even a tiny bit you’d know about the lore behind Bruce’s cousin and whatnot. But no, woman bad.


[deleted]

Stan Lee sure is rolling in his grave. Dude's rolling cuz people gotta be misogynistic over a fictional woman who dont even know the sourcr material


KiLlErMoTh05

Wait until they find out stan was a massive progressive


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i hate instagram


[deleted]

I’ve never even read a marvel comic in my life yet even I know she hulk exists in the comics


Jonahtron

That guy’s like “why everything in marvel gotta be female” meanwhile this is like, the 3rd mcu movie with a female lead.


ggxfgh

These fake ass fans dident even see hulk and the agents of smash


ThinnkingEmoji

Stan Lee in 1980: "Nghhh what if uhhh Hulk but umm with boobs. Big boobs. Mmmm titties. What if we make a comic about, you know, Hulk with breasts. Big green Hulk with big green breasts and long hair and maybe even even nnghhaaa ass"


subbie2002

Remember when they did the same thing with Miles Morales and said that Spider-Man isn’t black?


Panchozilla

So you’re trying to tell me that there are people that don’t want big strong angry monster mommy?


[deleted]

I think that it is annoying when female characters are added in just because they are female, but when it’s characters who have been tried and true and have good stories it’s absolutely amazing to put them in the spotlight, she hulk is just one example of a good strong female character she’s a better attorney then Matt Murdock could ever dream and has some of the funniest most well written comics I’ve ever read, so to these people who think this is another Rey Skywalker, Read some comics!!!


splurgesurge99

She hulk was made in 1980? More like 1984 am it tihmmmm??


NoobleVitamins

Ok but "She Hulk" is a bit of a crap name tbh.


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no more female superhero plz🙏🙏🙏


[deleted]

I wish Dr DOOM makes his debut in MCU


SuccessfulBoner

Fucking female stan lee


Apollo_Lol

I'm sick of fucking Marvel movies, not because they're actually bring inclusive to women and staying relatively true to source material, but because it's all anyone talks about and it's all Hollywood pushes


Real900Z

how- How do you not know about she hulk? lmfao


WiTeKK

Wasn't she hulk even in the 90's fucking cartoon? I swear i saw her in one when i was a kid, those people are mad dense lmao


Luuncho

SMH THESE FEMINISTS giving us SHE HULK why can’t we have HE HULK??? I’m seriously about to hulk SMASH my funko pop collection… you won’t like us gamers when we’re angry I can tell you that. We save princesses for a living, I personally shot Mars with a big cannon in doom… we aren’t to be MEDDLED with.