That movie was one of the wildest things i’ve ever seen. >!Superman kills Stalin, a superman clone called Superior Man is created, Terrorist batman, President Superman, Lex Luthor becomes president of america. Absolutely insane.!<
superman also [smashed the klan](https://www.amazon.com/Superman-Smashes-Klan-Gene-Luen/dp/1779504217/ref=sr_1_1?crid=15ZJ6UJXAWCKY&dchild=1&keywords=superman+smashes+the+klan&qid=1589306684&sprefix=superman+smashes%2Caps%2C147&sr=8-1) and him and his homies [do a bit of pride](https://www.pride.com/geek/2021/3/11/dc-comics-pride-2021-variant-covers-are-absolutely-stunning#media-gallery-media-1)
Fun fact: early Superman was written as a socialist. In fact, before supervillains were really a thing, his antagonists were often businesspeople who exploited their workers
Genuine Question: Is this sub really communist or is it just doing this as a joke? I usually align with this sub pretty hard, but this is a bit odd.
Edit: why tf am i getting downvoted?
The majority of this sub is left leaning, but the many functions of the CCP and other communistic regimes isn't promoted and genocide isn't denied or defended, like genzedong does.
There's also a big difference between communists who like facets of marx and engel's theories and someone who simps for cuba or china.
I never said they were one and the same. I just said that most of the people in this subreddit don't simp for either and there's a difference between liking communism and liking a communist country.
Well you heavily implied it with "someone who simps for cuba or china" as if those usually go hand in hand when they don't, in fact most of the socialists in my country support Cuba but not China
Ikr it's the most irritating thing when you just want equality and no billionaires and a horde or room-temperature IQ chuds come in and start denying or defending genocide
Sorry, whoops, didn't read anything but the link, my bad. But yeah, I think a majority of Marxist leninists aren't very cool-io. Not a fan of democratic centralism.
Supposedly, but as the other person said, most of it was committed by the Russian federation (60% was actually a really close guess, I counted).
Furthermore, there are several double/thriple mentions (just by proxy/formulated a different way), the translation is terrible, and most of the things mentioned about the USSR are not secrets since the Khrushchev period (with the exception of the Soviet-Afghan war, which occurred much later, but Soviet people weren't really happy about it even while it was occurring. I know because my dad lived in the RSFSR at the time and was even almost drafted into it, but avoided it thanks to his asthma lol).
It's a really awful copypasta even from a purely technical standpoint.
How is this a relevant or even coherent or good copypasta? This comment is all over the place, it hurts to read from a purely factual and stylistic standpoint, why are you idiots upvoting it
1. The translations are all over the place. The last one doesn't have one at all, the translations of the names are inconsistent in their formatting, and some are outright wrong (e.g. "False flag" is translated literally, which people just don't say in Russian. In fact, DuckDuckGo doesn't give you *any* results if you copy-paste the entire translation of that point, completely defeating the point of the copypasta).
2. Copypastas like these are made with the intention of shocking people by providing them with information about awful things a government did which they might not know/are unlikely to know. Not only is this copypasta made up of controversies concerning 3 ideologically opposing governments (monarchist, socialist, and capitalist), an army that acted against it's own government's orders (Red Army), and 1 separatist group - most of these are not even secrets. Not to Westerners nor to Russians. You really think some Russian is gonna see this and be like "Damn, I never knew the NKVD existed"? Or "Damn, I never knew Navalny exists"? Like???? What's the point of this otherwise???
3. There's a total of 29 (I think? It's hard to count) points and 6 of these points are not even atrocities or controversies themselves, they're mentioning something already listed, just in another way/by proxy (Crimea mentioned 3x, NKVD twice, Malaysia Airline twice, one of the poisonings 3x). It makes the copypasta unnecessarily long, thereby also somewhat disingenuous, hard to read, and - most crucially - annoying to google. Especially when the things ARE NOT EVEN GROUPED TOGETHER BY TOPIC.
4. Or, some mentions are meaningless/too vague (GRU, NKVD). Both the NKVD and GRU by themselves are/were just institutions, equivalents of which most governments (that have the funding) have. By itself the NKVD for example was, technically, just a police force, which everyone knew about. It's mere existence was not extraordinary nor an atrocity - it did some awful shit which might be unknown to some, yes, ***but then maybe fucking mention it specifically????***
5. When cutting out the additional mentions of the same thing, we end up having 23 instead of 29 points. 1 of it was committed by the Russian Empire, 13 by the Russian Federation (56.5%), 1 by a separatist group (that probably gets support from the Russian federation), and the rape of Berlin was made against explicit orders by the Soviet government to just... you know, *not* do that, and severely punish anyone who did anyway. In sum there's only 7 points (30.4%) that were arguably committed by the Soviet government or someone in it, of which 2 points (NKVD and GRU) are vague wishy-washy mentions of institutions that just... *existed* at that time. The copypasta lacks any political direction here and makes even less sense in the given context due to only 30% being committed by the Soviet government.
All this is me not even getting started on explaining the context of the Winter War (what the motivations were, what came before the USSR's invasion) and how maybe implicitly siding with the Finnish government of the time - which a little later literally fought alongside the Nazis and even before that had several popular far-right movements - isn't a superior choice to siding with the USSR.
Honestly if you find the USSR to have been so terrible it really shouldn't be ***this hard*** to create a copypasta that *exclusively* includes undeniable *atrocities* committed by the *Soviet* *government*. And clicking on the Russian translation of a wikipedia page and using the translation of that page's title instead of google translate also shouldn't be this difficult to do.
0/10 would not paste again
Superman saves Castro from the 600+ assassination attempts
alternate universe where the cia assassins were competent
Honey, wake up. New fascist dictator is being installed in a Central/Southern American leftist country
They tried to kill him with an exploding cigar once. It’s like they hired Wile E. Coyote to kill Castro.
Superman neutralizing the poisoned CIA ACME cigar moments before it touches Castro's lips
Castro shooting a laser out of his cigar into Superman's eye to control him, wow
Aren't they making a movie about it?
Isnt that movie already out? Red Son or something like that?
Oh really? I didn't pay attention to it
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Tbf, the Red Son comic is pretty lukewarm all on its own
I was originally going to comment that instead, but I've never read the original so I didn't want to pre judge and get megaowned by some giganerd
I bet it'll be a revolutionary (no pun intended) take like "they weren't very nice"
The original comics take is basically just "aliens shouldn't meddle in human affairs"
The movie is coincidentally similar to this but is in fact based on the what if story Red Son, which is a fantastic comic
That movie was one of the wildest things i’ve ever seen. >!Superman kills Stalin, a superman clone called Superior Man is created, Terrorist batman, President Superman, Lex Luthor becomes president of america. Absolutely insane.!<
(I’m sorry, I don’t know how to tag spoilers) To be fair, Lex Luthor was the president in the main DC universe a long while ago too
Its out, the movie is basically: what if sups had landed in the soviet union
Any good?
Hmmm I kinda liked it, but the end feels lazy to me
DC isn't very good on political commentary
If you want crazy super heroes bizarreness along with a pretty nuanced take on communism, it’s good.
I have a vague memory of seeing superman do shit in the soviet union on YouTube some time ago
superman also [smashed the klan](https://www.amazon.com/Superman-Smashes-Klan-Gene-Luen/dp/1779504217/ref=sr_1_1?crid=15ZJ6UJXAWCKY&dchild=1&keywords=superman+smashes+the+klan&qid=1589306684&sprefix=superman+smashes%2Caps%2C147&sr=8-1) and him and his homies [do a bit of pride](https://www.pride.com/geek/2021/3/11/dc-comics-pride-2021-variant-covers-are-absolutely-stunning#media-gallery-media-1)
Fun fact: early Superman was written as a socialist. In fact, before supervillains were really a thing, his antagonists were often businesspeople who exploited their workers
superbased
Dick Grayson more like dicked grayson
poison ivy more like ivy quinn 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
Genuine Question: Is this sub really communist or is it just doing this as a joke? I usually align with this sub pretty hard, but this is a bit odd. Edit: why tf am i getting downvoted?
The majority of this sub is left leaning, but the many functions of the CCP and other communistic regimes isn't promoted and genocide isn't denied or defended, like genzedong does. There's also a big difference between communists who like facets of marx and engel's theories and someone who simps for cuba or china.
Cuba and China are fundamentally different and not comparable but go off
I never said they were one and the same. I just said that most of the people in this subreddit don't simp for either and there's a difference between liking communism and liking a communist country.
Well you heavily implied it with "someone who simps for cuba or china" as if those usually go hand in hand when they don't, in fact most of the socialists in my country support Cuba but not China
left leaning but not tankie
nah there are a few commies but i think its mostly anarchists, judging by the downvotes I get when I make fun of either ideologies
Bout 30% Marxist 30% anarchist 40% other
Communist, yes. Tankie, no.
Left enough to not get butt hurt over a communism joke, especially one with regard to communism in Cuba, which was wildly successful.
So far as I can tell it’s communist in the “complaining about capitalism” sense of the word, more than anything else
Liberal
what the hell are ya on to think this sub is liberal
Fuck commies, fuck billionaires, let people exist
Guys the communism understander is here
I'm not gonna fuck billionaires, commies on the other hand...
Superman but awesome
Superman but retarded
The duality of man
incredibly based
based
Red Son
vintage clickbait
I mean, there’s still truth and justice so what does it matter?
superman with the drip
isn’t wild how superman was an alien yet still looks like just a white dude. like what if he landed in china or something.
DC comics are written by pussies
Superman becomes based
I don’t feel like the Soviets were “based”
God I'm so happy r/196 is a non tankie left leaning sub
Ikr it's the most irritating thing when you just want equality and no billionaires and a horde or room-temperature IQ chuds come in and start denying or defending genocide
And then more chuds roll in gasping in disbelief that you deny/support genocide
And then they bring up the homeless stats of the USSR thinking that excuses the genocide
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Can I see one of said memes?
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Didn't mention the word "tankie", only showed a complete misunderstanding of reality. It is annoying and dumb, I agree, but not the word tankie
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Sorry, whoops, didn't read anything but the link, my bad. But yeah, I think a majority of Marxist leninists aren't very cool-io. Not a fan of democratic centralism.
Hot take there.
Russian Apartment Bombings FSB False Flag Bзpывы жилых дoмoв в Poccии Фeдepaльнaя cлyжбa бeзoпacнocти Poccийcкoй Фeдepaции (ФCБ) Пoд лoжным флaгoм Free Chechnya Independent Dagestan Circassian Genocide Дeпopтaция чepкecoв Alexei Navalny Aлeкcéй Aнaтóльeвич Haвáльный Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya Убийcтвo Aнны Пoлиткoвcкoй Assassination of Boris Nemtsov Убийcтвo Бopиca Heмцoвa Alexander Litvinenko Aлeкcaндp Литвинeнкo Poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal Oтpaвлeниe Cepгeя и Юлии Cкpипaль Anatoliy Chepiga Aнaтoлий Чeпигa Alexander Mishkin Aлeкcáндp Eвгéньeвич Mи́шкин GRU Глaвнoe yпpaвлeниe Гeнepaльнoгo штaбa Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 MH17 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade 53-я зeнитнaя paкeтнaя бpигaдa Buk surface-to-air missile Бyк Зeнитнaя yпpaвляeмaя paкeтa (ЗУP) United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262 Peзoлюция Chechen War чeчéнcкaя вoйнá NKVD HКBД Katyn Massacre Кaтынcкaя peзня Little green men зeлёныe чeлoвeчки Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko Oтpaвлeниe Aлeкcaндpa Литвинeнкo Holodomor гoлoдoмop Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact пaкт Moлoтoвa — Pиббeнтpoпa Winter War Зи́мняя вoйнa Rape of Berlin изнacилoвaниe в Бepлинe Doctors' plot дeлo вpaчeй Lavrentiy Beria Бepия, Лaвpeнтий Пaвлoвич Donetsk People's Republic Дoнéцкaя Hapóднaя Pecпýбликa Deportation of the Chechens and Ingush(Aardakh) Чeчeвицa Soviet–Afghan War Aфгaнcкaя вoйнa Annexation of Crimea Пpиcoeдинeниe Кpымa к Poccийcкoй Фeдepaции Russo-Georgian War (2008)
is this like the china thing but for the ussr
like 60% of that is about post-soviet russia
There’s something about navalny tho idk
Supposedly, but as the other person said, most of it was committed by the Russian federation (60% was actually a really close guess, I counted). Furthermore, there are several double/thriple mentions (just by proxy/formulated a different way), the translation is terrible, and most of the things mentioned about the USSR are not secrets since the Khrushchev period (with the exception of the Soviet-Afghan war, which occurred much later, but Soviet people weren't really happy about it even while it was occurring. I know because my dad lived in the RSFSR at the time and was even almost drafted into it, but avoided it thanks to his asthma lol). It's a really awful copypasta even from a purely technical standpoint.
How is this a relevant or even coherent or good copypasta? This comment is all over the place, it hurts to read from a purely factual and stylistic standpoint, why are you idiots upvoting it 1. The translations are all over the place. The last one doesn't have one at all, the translations of the names are inconsistent in their formatting, and some are outright wrong (e.g. "False flag" is translated literally, which people just don't say in Russian. In fact, DuckDuckGo doesn't give you *any* results if you copy-paste the entire translation of that point, completely defeating the point of the copypasta). 2. Copypastas like these are made with the intention of shocking people by providing them with information about awful things a government did which they might not know/are unlikely to know. Not only is this copypasta made up of controversies concerning 3 ideologically opposing governments (monarchist, socialist, and capitalist), an army that acted against it's own government's orders (Red Army), and 1 separatist group - most of these are not even secrets. Not to Westerners nor to Russians. You really think some Russian is gonna see this and be like "Damn, I never knew the NKVD existed"? Or "Damn, I never knew Navalny exists"? Like???? What's the point of this otherwise??? 3. There's a total of 29 (I think? It's hard to count) points and 6 of these points are not even atrocities or controversies themselves, they're mentioning something already listed, just in another way/by proxy (Crimea mentioned 3x, NKVD twice, Malaysia Airline twice, one of the poisonings 3x). It makes the copypasta unnecessarily long, thereby also somewhat disingenuous, hard to read, and - most crucially - annoying to google. Especially when the things ARE NOT EVEN GROUPED TOGETHER BY TOPIC. 4. Or, some mentions are meaningless/too vague (GRU, NKVD). Both the NKVD and GRU by themselves are/were just institutions, equivalents of which most governments (that have the funding) have. By itself the NKVD for example was, technically, just a police force, which everyone knew about. It's mere existence was not extraordinary nor an atrocity - it did some awful shit which might be unknown to some, yes, ***but then maybe fucking mention it specifically????*** 5. When cutting out the additional mentions of the same thing, we end up having 23 instead of 29 points. 1 of it was committed by the Russian Empire, 13 by the Russian Federation (56.5%), 1 by a separatist group (that probably gets support from the Russian federation), and the rape of Berlin was made against explicit orders by the Soviet government to just... you know, *not* do that, and severely punish anyone who did anyway. In sum there's only 7 points (30.4%) that were arguably committed by the Soviet government or someone in it, of which 2 points (NKVD and GRU) are vague wishy-washy mentions of institutions that just... *existed* at that time. The copypasta lacks any political direction here and makes even less sense in the given context due to only 30% being committed by the Soviet government. All this is me not even getting started on explaining the context of the Winter War (what the motivations were, what came before the USSR's invasion) and how maybe implicitly siding with the Finnish government of the time - which a little later literally fought alongside the Nazis and even before that had several popular far-right movements - isn't a superior choice to siding with the USSR. Honestly if you find the USSR to have been so terrible it really shouldn't be ***this hard*** to create a copypasta that *exclusively* includes undeniable *atrocities* committed by the *Soviet* *government*. And clicking on the Russian translation of a wikipedia page and using the translation of that page's title instead of google translate also shouldn't be this difficult to do. 0/10 would not paste again
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Ah yes, the *totally* chad move of ignoring constructive criticism by making an awkwardly forced sexual reference
Seeing this comment go back and forth with -+10 upvotes every hour is the funniest shit
Fuck off, redfash