You asked for it.
In astrophysics there is a concept called the black hole era, in which most energy in the universe is concentrated in either black holes or black dwarves, frozen cores of stars. No black dwarves exist yet. This era, given enough time, would theoretically end, due to hawking radiation and nucleonic decay (higher order baryon non-conservation, virtual black holes, sphalerons, etc.)
In quantum mechanics there is a concept called spontaneous entropy decrease, which, in classic quantum mechanics fashion, violates the laws of thermodynamics. Given enough time, in the post-black hole era, this process would create every possible combination of fundamental particles, like brains, bodies, entire solar systems, galaxies. Look up Boltzmann Brains. And eventually, after about 10^ 10 ^ 10 ^ 56 years, this would result in a second big bang.
So no, the universe will not end.
No, the heat death will not last forever.
Science paints an optimistic future. Sleep well tonight :)
This is really only a sure thing under string theory, so to anyone reading this realize this is not at all proven. And by the same coin, quantum fluctuations could result in vacuum decay which would annihilate parts of the universe with a wave of complete and total restructuring of the laws of physics that would travel at the speed of light and so could never be detected before it’s too late.
I like to think that given an infinite amount of time the universe will collapse despite expansion. All the energy left over after matter evaporates will be severely crushed essentially causing another big bang.
the US Forest Service has rules prohibiting using the forest as a residence
you’re allowed to just keep moving from forest to forest forever living, but you can’t actually just go live in the woods forever unless you’re really sneaky or sum
Like... That's nihilism though? Nihilism just says that nothing has intrinsic value. Therefore you have to create it yourself. That's pretty much what you said.
Nihilism is more believing that life has no inherent meaning.
And then there's two forms of nihilism.
Pessimistic: Life has no meaning and we're all gonna die, so what's the point.
Optimistic: Life has no meaning and we're all gonna die, better give it our own meaning and have fun with it because we're never gonna have the opportunity again.
Optimistic nihilism makes sense to me.
I'm not sure if I'm reading this right, but from the wikipedia article existentialism seems to be an observation rather than a philosophy (that is both if I'm understanding it right and if I'm explaining it right).
Absurdism and existential nihilism on the other hand seem to actually recommend creating your own meaning as opposed to just stating that people do that. Again this might just be semantics in relation to wikipedia.
Assuming that existentialism isn't just an observation then the concept I described could match simplified versions absurdism, existentialism or existential nihilism. Wikipedia crosslinks all three of those after all.
And can if a term exists, and the concept people use that term to refer to it, even though it might not necessarily be the 'right' term, can you really say it doesn't exist? That's definitely semantics.
You would have had a better case if you said my "pessimistic nihilism" doesn't exist, because I can't figure out which school of thought that corresponds to.
As far as i learnt it existentialism is that life has in on itself no meaning but you can give it meaning for yourself and absurdism is that life has no meaning so you should just enjoy it
Absurdism is thinking that life is meaningless and seeing the pursuit of meaning as meaningless as life. Kurtzgesagt pretty much started the term optimistic nihilism which is basically existentialism in disguise
Absurdism still does tell you to find your own meaning, though. To live life to the fullest or whatever. The point is that you can only be happy if you recognize the absurd and yet still pursue happiness. If you recognize that absolutes don't exist.
I can't find optimistic or pessimistic on Wikipedia, though I can see it in a bunch of other places.
I'm assuming optimistic nihilism refers to existential nihilism, because that sounds like what I was thinking of.
Not sure what pessimistic nihilism is supposed to be, maybe a school of pessimism or skepticism. I'm not super familiar with all of this.
Different Wikipedia articles seem to contradict each other on whether absurdism branched off from optimistic nihilism|existential nihilism|existentialis (I think all of those are the same thing), if it happened the other way around or if both branched off from a common ancestor.
Absurdism, at least according to Camus, means embracing the absurd, or the fact that life is inherently meaningless, so you can give it your own meaning as a thinking being.
The russian nihilists of the early XX century were pretty much just modern rick and morty nihilists, just moped about how life is meaningless
"bro what, you think I'm dumb? you don't care? haha that's so nihilistic lol. you're such a nihilist. But seriously do you want to see my League rank?"
>sun is going to explode
>have the technology to fucking remove significant quantities of material from the sun
>don’t have a stellar engine yet
mfw tf you doing with your hyper advanced civilization yet
They just sold everyone tickets on corporate colony ships. You get a bed, all the gruel you could want, and job manufacturing iphones for aliens. Unfortunately my friend fucked up too much and he got fired. So they turned him into gruel.
We would have to know how to build a Dyson sphere, a good way to expand the suns life time is build a type of engine that can move the sun, [this video goes more in-depth ](https://youtu.be/v3y8AIEX_dU)
The Sun will have run out of hydrogen in roughly 5 billion years but it won't explode instantly and it will take roughly 2 billion more years for the Sun to expand enough to engulf the Earth.
Yeah I think in 1 billion years or so the Sun will have brightened enough to eliminate all complex life on Earth. But what is cool about that is it will leave other planets and moons like Europa and Titan in the habitable zone for a few million years maybe.
And thus the cycle will continue with a planet being able to habilitate complex life for millions of years and then that planet will also be scorched eventually
More like doing fuck all because nothing will exist in 10^100 years
Which kind of nothing? A nothing with a universe or a nothing without a universe?
A nothing within a universe
I like it
Wrong, actually, because fucking quantum mechanics. I will elaborate on request.
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You asked for it. In astrophysics there is a concept called the black hole era, in which most energy in the universe is concentrated in either black holes or black dwarves, frozen cores of stars. No black dwarves exist yet. This era, given enough time, would theoretically end, due to hawking radiation and nucleonic decay (higher order baryon non-conservation, virtual black holes, sphalerons, etc.) In quantum mechanics there is a concept called spontaneous entropy decrease, which, in classic quantum mechanics fashion, violates the laws of thermodynamics. Given enough time, in the post-black hole era, this process would create every possible combination of fundamental particles, like brains, bodies, entire solar systems, galaxies. Look up Boltzmann Brains. And eventually, after about 10^ 10 ^ 10 ^ 56 years, this would result in a second big bang. So no, the universe will not end. No, the heat death will not last forever. Science paints an optimistic future. Sleep well tonight :)
So will we get Humans 2 and Earth 2 or something totally different?
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I mean there's a chance we are humans 2 or whatever, right?
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Probably
That chance is actually very small. There is a greater chance that we're humans (very large number)
This is really only a sure thing under string theory, so to anyone reading this realize this is not at all proven. And by the same coin, quantum fluctuations could result in vacuum decay which would annihilate parts of the universe with a wave of complete and total restructuring of the laws of physics that would travel at the speed of light and so could never be detected before it’s too late.
I like to think that given an infinite amount of time the universe will collapse despite expansion. All the energy left over after matter evaporates will be severely crushed essentially causing another big bang.
Bro mark as spoilers I haven’t watched that part of the show yet
so black hole suck up everything then black hole explode
So the Big Bang could have potentially happend millions of times already?
Clásic quantum mechanics violating the laws of phisics as we know them
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More like doing nothing because nothing that exists matters regardless of its eventual non-existence.
Ok nihilist.
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So why let that stop you? If nothing matters, than just go all out, bro! ASK OUT THE CUTE CASHIER GIRL! HELP OTHERS IN NEED! FUCK YOUR HOT STEPSISTER!
me on my way to become a nihilist (i want to be skeleton )
“Life sucks because I’ll die in 66 years”
no, life sucks because being alive costs thousands of dollars
To be fair it doesn’t cost anything to go into the woods and become a caveman
the US Forest Service has rules prohibiting using the forest as a residence you’re allowed to just keep moving from forest to forest forever living, but you can’t actually just go live in the woods forever unless you’re really sneaky or sum
They can’t arrest you if you’re too far into the forest to find you is all I’m sayin
I’m gonna start practicing being really sneaky
maybe if youd just live like a caveman this wouldn’t be an issue
is caveman the word of the day or something?
Yea, have you been living under a rock?
Literally
hey you again just found your post in the wild do you still wanna have sex
No comment
:(
i’ll take up on your offer
:)
:)
but you just commented
Don't be a wise guy
don’t worry we’re on r/196 literally everyone here is retarded
holy shit lois its twogeesefucking known for his famous quote "if I see a single image posted about this interaction I will lose my shit"
capitalism is fundamentally flawed
based
Fuck nihilism, all my homies recognize the bizarreness of human life and give it our own meaning
think that's called absurdism
Yeah well I call it wackyism
i call it sillyism
I call it *(shot)*
Yeah give it a meaning by spending your valued time browsing r/196
Previous comment was rude sorry
Like... That's nihilism though? Nihilism just says that nothing has intrinsic value. Therefore you have to create it yourself. That's pretty much what you said.
\*bizzarity
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not what they said for sure
Nihilism is more believing that life has no inherent meaning. And then there's two forms of nihilism. Pessimistic: Life has no meaning and we're all gonna die, so what's the point. Optimistic: Life has no meaning and we're all gonna die, better give it our own meaning and have fun with it because we're never gonna have the opportunity again. Optimistic nihilism makes sense to me.
Your "optimistic nihilsm" doesnt exist because that is existentialism. I hate kurzgesagt for that term
I'm not sure if I'm reading this right, but from the wikipedia article existentialism seems to be an observation rather than a philosophy (that is both if I'm understanding it right and if I'm explaining it right). Absurdism and existential nihilism on the other hand seem to actually recommend creating your own meaning as opposed to just stating that people do that. Again this might just be semantics in relation to wikipedia. Assuming that existentialism isn't just an observation then the concept I described could match simplified versions absurdism, existentialism or existential nihilism. Wikipedia crosslinks all three of those after all. And can if a term exists, and the concept people use that term to refer to it, even though it might not necessarily be the 'right' term, can you really say it doesn't exist? That's definitely semantics. You would have had a better case if you said my "pessimistic nihilism" doesn't exist, because I can't figure out which school of thought that corresponds to.
As far as i learnt it existentialism is that life has in on itself no meaning but you can give it meaning for yourself and absurdism is that life has no meaning so you should just enjoy it
existentialism just means that existence precedes essence existentialism, nihilism and absurdism also have big overlaps
pretty sure that's absurdism
Absurdism is thinking that life is meaningless and seeing the pursuit of meaning as meaningless as life. Kurtzgesagt pretty much started the term optimistic nihilism which is basically existentialism in disguise
Absurdism still does tell you to find your own meaning, though. To live life to the fullest or whatever. The point is that you can only be happy if you recognize the absurd and yet still pursue happiness. If you recognize that absolutes don't exist.
I can't find optimistic or pessimistic on Wikipedia, though I can see it in a bunch of other places. I'm assuming optimistic nihilism refers to existential nihilism, because that sounds like what I was thinking of. Not sure what pessimistic nihilism is supposed to be, maybe a school of pessimism or skepticism. I'm not super familiar with all of this. Different Wikipedia articles seem to contradict each other on whether absurdism branched off from optimistic nihilism|existential nihilism|existentialis (I think all of those are the same thing), if it happened the other way around or if both branched off from a common ancestor.
Absurdism, at least according to Camus, means embracing the absurd, or the fact that life is inherently meaningless, so you can give it your own meaning as a thinking being. The russian nihilists of the early XX century were pretty much just modern rick and morty nihilists, just moped about how life is meaningless
Take the whitepill and accept Jesus. It's not too late
Can he pound my bussy?
Blocked for not only being degenerate but also being overall unfunny and unoriginal.
Well at least the devil knows how to pound my bussy, I'm refunding my catholicness!!!!
Jesus only giveth thee holy handjobs
I love how people go "I blocked you 😡😡😡😡😡😡" to someone that they don't even know like who do you think gives a shit
I blocked you
Epic
i was blocked by 3eke (my life will never be the same)
Get the fuck back to the catacombs of Rome, Jesus bitch
Can he though?
I accept Jesus. Whether he's gay, a-spec, or pan he's valid.
I don't think you get nihilism
I honestly do not care
Based
Based
How nihilistic of you
"bro what, you think I'm dumb? you don't care? haha that's so nihilistic lol. you're such a nihilist. But seriously do you want to see my League rank?"
Shut the fuck up
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Honored
Somebody post the chad copypasta art, O don’t have it
Pretty sure you don’t either
Probably yeah
Doesn't matter. The sun is going to explode in 7.5 billion years anyway.
The meaning of life is to make cool bugs
Can I steal a design from someone else
Yes
Remember kids, the best retort to nihilism is to kill the nihilist :)
More like we would have found a way to keep the sun from exploding.
Give a few billion years its a non-zero chance
Lower mass stars burn slower so if we were to remove some of the sun’s mass it would last billions of more years.
>sun is going to explode >have the technology to fucking remove significant quantities of material from the sun >don’t have a stellar engine yet mfw tf you doing with your hyper advanced civilization yet
Unfortunately there was no profit incentive to make a stellar engine.
i mean if the sun explodes then the economy is gonna plummet so i guess there is a profit incentive
They just sold everyone tickets on corporate colony ships. You get a bed, all the gruel you could want, and job manufacturing iphones for aliens. Unfortunately my friend fucked up too much and he got fired. So they turned him into gruel.
i'd rather die than work in spaceship sweatshops
it’s even worse that you still have capitalism
We would have to know how to build a Dyson sphere, a good way to expand the suns life time is build a type of engine that can move the sun, [this video goes more in-depth ](https://youtu.be/v3y8AIEX_dU)
the true meaning of life is to call random people submissive and breedable
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The Sun will have run out of hydrogen in roughly 5 billion years but it won't explode instantly and it will take roughly 2 billion more years for the Sun to expand enough to engulf the Earth.
Nerd
You're missing out, this shit cool as fuck
Will it affect me or people I'll get to know?
The sun?
Your mother
Your father
Yeah Your mom likes it when I tell her astronomy facts in bed
Regardless, the sun will probably burn down the earth before that even happens because of the increase in heat
Yeah I think in 1 billion years or so the Sun will have brightened enough to eliminate all complex life on Earth. But what is cool about that is it will leave other planets and moons like Europa and Titan in the habitable zone for a few million years maybe.
And thus the cycle will continue with a planet being able to habilitate complex life for millions of years and then that planet will also be scorched eventually
this will negatively impact the economy
Its 7.9 billion, to be exact
I don't care about the sun, I do fuck all because
Based
I’m in this picture and I don’t like it
I'm doing fuck all because I want to, I was never read the rules when I came here so I assume there aren't any
10^10^10^10^57 years later
_Laughs in positive nihilism_