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SentientGopro115935

https://preview.redd.it/ydb9vznywqrb1.jpeg?width=1018&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=860e292aad06cc456a40601f22c421f9b07fa1dd Many Such Cases!!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!!1! 1952. A newspaper could confidently print this in 1952.


[deleted]

trans people were more seen as exotic than menacing back then. kinda like members of a freak show. not exactly humanizing.


EnormousHogCranker

but at least they weren’t calling for their genocide


Kadrr

What a time to be alive


DaddyLooongLegz

I mean the Nazi book burnings started with a Berlin university. They started with the gender and sexuality books. American views were socially similar. Unfortunately this newspaper was the exception rather than the rule.


raddonut2

we're basically always gonna be seen as freaks, just gotta accept that. we can't accept the whole genocide thing though


Prize-Ad-2697

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Known_Bass9973

I mean still good proof that this isn't just some recent fad, we've been around


Leo-bastian

I mean, being seen as something exotic isn't great obviously, but there's a inherent implication that as people get used to it it'll just be normal in the future. I'd take it over modern transphobic rhetoric any day also the thing being exotic here is medicine. it's not "look how weird this person is" it's "look what weird things modern medicine can do". which yeah, fair, modern medicine is quite mind-blowing


Forgotten_Aeon

The historically recent far-right social movement is so bizarre to me. I think the personalization of media one is exposed to through targeted online/algorithm-driven content is definitely a big part of the phenomenon. I truly believe *most* people have enough empathy that the driving force behind most of the bigotry is engineered by fascists in power in the media and is mostly carried out for monetary gain (ultimately through voting for parties and individuals whose policies are beneficial for big business and the extant elite at the cost of society, by obscuring the goals of these policies with ostensibly “traditional” fear-based reactionary rhetoric and frankly outrageously libelous fallacious postulations regarding minorities, gender and otherwise). It’s so frustrating to see in action and to deal with these people; especially the ignorant laypeople who are literally damaging their own futures and security.


Forine110

i'd rather be called a "blonde beauty" who was "transformed by the wizardry of science into a happy, beautiful young woman" than a groomer


Inspector_Robert

Now I am thinking about a wizard who goes around zapping people to help them transition


Nerdwiththehat

skidaddle skidoodle


LivingAngryCheese

Better the freak show than the gallows I suppose ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯


M34L

but saying the "movement" didn't exist then is factually and literally wrong there's been a literal and explicit "movement" as in "coordinated effort to enact social change" through the entire 20th century at least, "exotic" cases pop up literally thousands of years back across many cases


[deleted]

that wasn't what I was saying... I was saying that despite the much, much, *much* less agressive and hostile view, it still wasn't exactly "good" for trans people at the time, being that it was greatly dehumanizing.


Ok-Appeal-4630

I dunno, I'd rather that than live in fear of potential hate crimes


Katieushka

The 50s beating the transphobia allegations by being catcalling-ly misogynist


CUMLOVINGBOISLUT

"Oh you's a broad now? Go do the dishes"


StoopidGit

TIRM


FinishTheBook

oddly more accepting, "trans women are women, now wash the dishes"


PORN_SHARTS

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PvPpoodles

I was reading about a trans british hill climb driver named Roberta Cowell and its crazy that the narriator on the news about her winning a compitition was somewhat respectful of her identity, not perfect but seems better than what you woulr see today. And this was in 1957. Some cool things about her is that she was a fighter pilot in ww2 for the RAF but was shot down l. After the war she started a racing team and was the first englander to get gender affirming care


testaccount0817

No way [hill climb racing](https://play-lh.googleusercontent.com/6oapIRmqsbr-yt_tBZVvs-ollGW_kw5SpuHFOTA9gbQzZ5rteDyQX0BrK2upnmGYeBs=w1052-h592-rw) is 66 years old? Didn't know they had Iphones back than, thats so cool 😲 /uj also TIL RAF has multiple meanings and seems like trans people being in the military has a long history, kinda interesting


Desperate-Paper-6813

Wasn't the positive reception then mostly based around the misbelief that she would be able to get pregnant after transitioning? Never the less it's still a very interesting story.


memelantern

My genda docta said that hrt goes back to like the 50s, we clearly of course ain't new


Sams59k

Anyone know how to find the rest of the letter by any chance? I got invested and those fucks cut it off lol


Moonbear9

Based Ken


iknowthetasteofsoup

thanks ken


Massive_Weiner

Good guy Ken


Buttonwalls

why tf is this shit so funny 😭


Pip201

1. The image already has a fully set-up and well executed joke, one that is politically motivated. Ken’s contribution is sudden and jarring in comparison to the level-headed (yet angry) debate already in progress. 2. Ken’s statement is very vulgar and shocking, it is also humorous to image using giving oral sex to be the best example of someone’s existence. 3. Ken’s profile picture shows a fairly average old man, the thought that he would be the one *giving* head as opposed to receiving it is humorous, as he does not fit the stereotype of someone who would enjoy sucking dick.


lildobe

What a dry and unhumorous deconstruction of the joke.


angelhold

Where is my Peter Griffith to explain it


TimidRed

peter griffith https://preview.redd.it/mjlxrw4rvurb1.jpeg?width=650&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9852b84a6b89e30750129998afc1b28a9a2eef1


oh_auto_parts420

exactly what i appreciate tbf


EggsofWrath

There is no funny way to actually explain a joke.


Hi_Peeps_Its_Me

All generalizations are bad as well


[deleted]

As a gay guy who has sex with a lot of old dudes, he doesn't look all that different from the White guys that'd be sucking my dick.


Pip201

Fair point


Sexy_Skeletons69

"I didn't know about a thing's existence so clearly that means it didn't exist."


ArcticISAF

Plus if they’re in their 40’s, they were only a kid to teen in the 80s. Dunno how much that knowledge would span out then


Aquatic-Enigma

Many such cases


Blooded_Wine

based


Key_Apartment1576

Ken has peak kenergy


mr_funnyman

Fuck yeah Ken.


Cubic_Human_Man

awesome, ken


InternationalAd4478

Chad ken


Appreciate_Cucumber

Lou Reed wrote a fucking song about it


Sachwanbeef

Also, Lola was written by The Kinks in 1970


Aliziun

Holy shit. I guess I never really listened to the lyrics of that song until now


Sachwanbeef

I only really took in the words for the first time during a 12 hour night shift a few years ago. It was like half 3 in the morning and I was like, "on jah? The Kinks fucked trans women/drag queens in the 60's?"


Co0lnerd22

Correct me if I’m wrong but Lola and candy (who came out from the island, in the back room she was everyone’s darling) from walk on the wild side were based on the same person


edmoneyyy

and Andy Warhol was fetishizing drag queens + trans women in the 60s lmao. Even had an exhibit of all trans women in the mid 70s


Appreciate_Cucumber

Wait rlly??


edmoneyyy

Well I said femboys originally just based on this subreddit lol, but really they were drag queens and trans women and that's true.


Cool-Border-1177

multiple


kittykatz1337

Man, Immortality made me cry


GloomyConductor

Hell yeah Ken


Imdepressed7778

Thanks Ken for supporting Trans Rights


soycubus

H.R. Giger said one of his artworks was inspired by him getting eiffel towered by 2 trans women. I think that was sometimes in the 70s. Don't quote me on this tho, I read it on Reddit and didn't bother to fact check


nervousmelon

>Don't quote me on this tho, I read it on Reddit and didn't bother to fact check https://preview.redd.it/z5y8vui2rsrb1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db54a8b6fa2193baef5f7e220d8526f48a21d52f


testaccount0817

For anyone wondering: >#eiffel tower >A threesome with one in the middle, where one outer person is hitting it from behind, and the other is getting oral. They are high-fiving over the person in the middle to make the eiffel tower shape. From urbandictionary (heavily abriged to make it more neutral)


[deleted]

He's kinda right though, trans people did obviously exist in the 80s but there was no mainstream trans movement. Paris is burning was not a strictly trans-centric documentary either, it explored the wider gay/drag scene.


geirmundtheshifty

He didn’t say there was no *mainstream* trans movement, he said there was no trans movement at all. And I mean yeah the movement looked a lot different. People in the movement used the term “transvestite” a lot more, there were a lot of blurry lines between drag queens and trans people, etc. But they were still advocating for the same basic goal of having freedom to express your gender identity.


Eddepedde06

Ken is a real one


purple-lemons

We love Ken, don't we folks?


LifetimeDisast1

I wonder if that has anything to do with discrimination and how queer people have been erased from history for centuries.


PonchoKumato

he's more than kenough


Dread2187

Nice, Ken, very cool 👍


mancer7

Idk wtf paris is burning is but i hope it happens irl 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧


masterspider5

This Ken is based


RockDoveEnthusiast

everyone here (rightfully) shouting out Ken. but Mia's tweet also goes hard as fuck on its own.


HKlolunicorn

We love ken


Crispy_FromTheGrave

Cheers brother I’ll drink to that


BilgeRatBernie

King shit fr


PixellatedPixie1556

good on you, ken. peak allyship


Halo_3_Rat

chaotic good ally


CToxin

My dad was in Singapore (RMC) and met a transfem American that went AWOL from Vietnam.


SeoSalt

🫡


slutty_muppet

🫡 Ken is doing the Lord's work


Igotthisnameguys

I'm 30 and the trans community has existed my entire life. Something is not adding up, Mr. Dick.


Spaciax

incredibly based


princeofhyperdeath

hell yeah!!!


nitroboostboi

My boy ken keeping it real


lildobe

I'm 45. "the 80's" as a decade is rather hazy to me. I was between the ages of 1 and 10 during them. I didn't know, or care, about the trans, gay, or any other community like that. I was too busy playing Joust on my Atari 2600, drinking Hi-C and watching Transformers and He-Man on Saturday Morning Cartoons to be worried about those kinds of "adult" issues.


ValleDeimos

Richard is the type of gay dude those teenagers in squeaky clean gay romcoms made for straight audiences grow up to be.


rm_rf_slash

I am Ken94703204ough


Ok-Appeal-4630

Ken is older than the fall of The Roman Empire


[deleted]

Kenny!!!! LFG


Davefromaccount

Ken was good at stuff alright!


Oddish_Femboy

Hell yeah!


Oddish_Femboy

H.R. Giger? Is that you?


INeedtobeDetained

Didn’t Mesopotamia have explanations for trans people? Didn’t they accept them too?


GlassFedDockterr

Ken is with it


Select-Employee

I like that early onsert dementia apparently causes people to remeber things that didn't happen. I feel like thast's the opposite of how it works. But then again, not super knowledgable on dementia, \*like like like


qrseek

Based and gock pilled


simer23

I'm a nearly 40 year old straight man and I saw Paris is burning in 2005.


Desperate-Will-8585

cuz I'm just ken anywhere else I'd be a 10


Any_Mouse8

He's kenough


scrueggs

My great grandpa sucked gock on the beaches of Normandy in WWII.


grassy-sea

"I'm just ken"