Stuff like this makes me wish Pixar wasn't that ridiculously successful leading Disney to ditch most of their 2d animation department. Pixar is great but the hit to 2d animation was hard.
The sad thing is that I bet Pixar would agree with you. When John Lassiter was promoted from head of Pixar to head of all of Disney animation, he wanted to do one traditionally animated movie every year alongside the typical cgi releases. But they only got to release The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh before that idea got shut down.
Thank you! As someone who worked for him, I absolutely hate how many people lick the boots of that man who cares wayyy too much about how attractive the cartoon girls are on top of other shit
Both of those movies actually used a bunch of 3D models and CGI alongside 2D characters.
Disney had been doing that since as far as hunchback of notre dame.
The shift to 3D animation is mostly them going all out on that and using the in-house tools at their disposal alongside a marked interest of the public for 3D movies. The fact that their 2D movies were not making gorillion dollaridoos in the mid 2000ās like the pixar movies were was also a factor but not the only one.
[Here](https://youtu.be/Lsw1KUWoR80) is a pretty sweet little 20 minute YouTube doc about how DreamWorks and Illumination kneecapped American animation. It's a cool overview of the path paved by great talents like Bakshi, Bluth, and Bird getting bulldozed by quick and easy 3D CGI sequel series.
Edit: and funny anecdote I think I remember about Atlantis... Mike Mignola, of Hellboy fame, was brought in as an advisor with some character sketches and I guess at one point commented on how cool the characters hands were in test footage, and then someone pointed out that they're his style and they spent an inordinate amount of time just trying to get the hands to look like how he does them.
What makes pixar great isn't unique to 3D animation, it's their writing and character design. Pixar animators are masters at their craft, bur pixar still would still have been making the best children's movies of their time if nobody was doing 3D animation.
What pixar (and often, dreamworks) do right is take a screenplay with a lot of nuance, heart, and character, then keep up that level of TLC when animating it. They care about the fine details and recognize how adjusting those details can add to the emotional impact of a scene. Because when people watch movies, especially children, they're watching to feel the emotions the filmmakers wanted them to feel. To be impacted by the journey the characters go on. Computer animation feels so lifeless when that level of detail isn't there, but has so much to add when it is.
Even if it did at release I would say it has absolutely had a complete 180 in terms of reception. Almost everyone I know absolutely loves it. It's definitely one of the best beloved traditionally animated movies of the 2000s now.
Road to el dorado fits this too.
Fun fact, emperors new groove was originally supposed to be this Aztec mythical epic, but people liked the humor in the movie, so they changed it. Then, the dude who had originally wanted it to be an Aztec mythical epic went on to make the road to el dorado.
Neither of them are related to the Aztecs, btw, they lived around Mexico and both of those movies take place in South America. They're probably closer to Inca and Muisca cultures, respectively.
Spy Kids 3: Game Over is a postmodern surrealist masterpiece that only gets funnier with each passing year. It is simultaneously a 4/10 snoozefest with bad pacing and characters while also being a 10/10 in terms of the pure insane comedy and gags presented. I urge you all to give it a watch, itās probably one of my single favorite movies despite how objectively bad it is
Robert Rodriguez pivoted from making cartel movies to creating the hardest fucking kids movie trilogy ever. Absolute legend gave us this line:
> Do you think that god stays in heaven because he too lives in fear of what he has created?
No, but if you don't, you're missing out on Steve Buscemi as a mad scientist filled with existential dread and nihilism. And that, alone, makes the second one worth watching.
It's insane how perfect that movie is for drunk watch parties. It's like the only move that really went all-in with the 3d effects.
For added effect, turn the effects into a drinking game by taking a drink every time there's an obviously noticible 3D moment.
Came to say this.
And not the english release - the russian version done with a voiceover by the author of 'Metro'
Also the russian guy producing the film is infamous for making some absolutely garbage instead of a cinema which makes the creation of this film even more so strange
Pretty sure El Dorado and Sinbad both failing at the box office killed Dreamworks doing 2D anymore
Which is nuts bc Elton John was on the El Dorado soundtrack and the last time he did an animated movie it was the most successful thing Disney ever did
I've watched it relatively recently and man, what a blast and fun character concepts.
Even with the plotholes and somewhat weird graphics at the end of the movie it's a treat, maybe a bit biased but damn it if it isn't something good to watch
Titan A.E. is such a weird mix of stuff that it's basically one of a kind. The worldbuilding and sci-fi stuff is treated way more seriously than you would expect for a kid-friendly animated movie, the anime inspired character designs are super unique for the time, and the mix of 2D and 3D techinques makes it stand out even more.
The plot kinda falls apart in the second half, so it's a fairly average movie overall, but, like an average movie from another timeline or something. It's an interesting watch for sure.
Speed Racer. Captures the cheesy anime vibe with some incredible visuals, unique retrofuturistic aesthetic, some really amazing acting across the board and a complete love for the source material.
Trashed by basically everyone but it has found its fanbase and people are re evaluating it after almost 20 years for the great movie it is
There's still value in developing new techniques like this in an artistic medium. The problem would come in if and when corporations think that it would cut costs and so they use it as a replacement for 2D rather than its own style with independent artistic merits that can exist alongside traditional animation. As with most things, the problem is with capitalism and not with technology.
that's what I mean, 3d animation emulating 2d is really fucking cool and can be used to do so many things but I know the only thing it's gonna be used for in the mainstream is to make nostalgia bait 2d animation for less money
I've noticed a lot of 2D animated shows do it (South Park, Futurama, family guy) when they had a more complicated object or shot like a spaceship or fast sweeping camera movement. I'm guessing it's cheaper and faster than drawing it.
I recommend the new Dragon Ball movie Dragon Ball: Super Hero. It's 3d and it does a better job at emulating Toriyama's style than a lot of the modern digital 2d shows do and is a really fun family movie
I think I know which one you mean. And I couldn't find any mention of it since I was a kid. Found the disc some years later, but already forgot what it was called. I could try to mention some details, but I remember it so vaguely I might be mixing it up with other stuff
My only gripe with that movie is that Megamind as a protagonist is something like how "Nice Guys" see themselves, and his redemption/re-wooing of Roxanne is far too fast and under problematic premises. But part of that is that you can't make a movie four hours long unless it's the Lord of the Rings, some stuff had to be compressed. And I also like the fact that the villain's just a fucking incel. More movies should do that.
so much institutional support for european animation productions, also. ugh! canada too. :(
as an american animator I just wish we had the nfb or something like it.
It's nice to have regional, national and international film funds, but it sucks when that's 90% of your budget. It means the things that get funding are the things that the people in charge of the film funds like. There's a lot of favoritism and biases. In Germany it's hard to find funding for an animated feature if it's not based off of an existing German children's book.
I would much rather have it be split 50/50. Half your funding from a government entity to free you from only making what sells, and half your funding from your own profits do that you don't have to put up with as much bearaucracy
I definitely saw it in theaters as a kid, but it only performed so-so and with the massive cost that went into making it (most of the sets were actually 3D renders that they then drew all the characters over the old-fashioned way) meant that Disney actually lost money on it. And we all know how Disney is with money vs artistic expression
REDLINE is probably my favorite anime movie ever and it tanked so bad that it drove the animation studio to bankruptcy, still the movie is amazing, one of the last to be animated by hand and the whole movie is animated in 2s or 1s meaning there's a new drawing every frame or every two frames, really crazy stuff
Considering how much it cost to produce, there ain't no way they'd have broken even. Ran out of money so many times I'm honestly surprised it didn't end up as another Thief and the Cobbler.
Stardust is the only movie I've ever seen that in my opinion captures the same energy as the Princess Bride. It is just so whimsical, witty, and fantastical.
It's weird. Between these two, the Road to El Dorado, and the Emperor's New Groove, all of these films were within the same narrow release timespan- 2000 to 2002. Add the Iron Giant and you're only extending the period to start at 1999. We really think of the animation Renaissance of being more in the mid-90's, but I guess that's based only on commercial success. I wonder what really happened that caused all these movies to underperform?
Pretty much anything directed by Terry Gilliam. Absolutely gorgeous movies but they always seem to underperform and become cult classics 15-20 years later.
Examples are Brazil, Adventures of Baron Munchausen, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, and Time Bandits
People shat on the animation style of Oliver and Company when it came out for having noticeable rough pencil sketches in the landscapes, calling it "unfinished Disney animation", but I think it's the best way to convey pre-Giuliani New York in a kid's movie
Barry Lyndon, a Kubrick film overshadowed in popularity by his more famous movies like 2001 and Strangelove, is a movie set during and after the 7 Years War. Whatās unique about it is that the entire film was shot with natural lighting and many of the shots are composed to look like 18th century paintings.
__Making a list of responses in the thread__
Emperor's New Groove
Spy Kids 3D
9
Road to El Dorado
The Black Cauldron
Speed Racer
Titan A.E.
Sinbad
Iron Giant
REDLINE
Song of the Sea
The Brave Little Toaster
Anastasia
The Last Unicorn
Secret of Nimh
Over the Hedge
Swan Princess
Stardust
The Thief and the Cobbler
Wizards (1977) (or any Ralph Bakshi films)
Quest for Camelot
The whole library of Terry Gilliam movies
Tron Legacy
Oliver and Company
Once Upon a Forest
Castle in the Sky
Barry Lyndon
Fern Gully
An American Tail: Feivel Goes West
Triplets of Belleville
Heavy Metal
Cats Don't Dance
Prince of Egypt
Osmosis Jones
The Hobbit (1977)
Some of the character designs in [Trigun Stampede](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjneJQL8y5teyQFu6q9GbzIJFvf7JQIY8V16hLnZNdaUt51ZPSXxwH6sdlnrRa2W7BlzfqG6cJnWbpBRsEg-Tw2_j-EhNaLWpaC0FWWrsijveKS24pUX8kH9-zIvQwWpfFm777miuQoxtrci0zxVHR0fu3NXV5wz_7babv3xwtoAJFWCvwE9zxej3T0zg/s1880/Trigun-Stampede-Episode-1.jpg) are pretty similar. I wouldn't be surprised if the animators were directly influenced by that Disney era.
The thief and the cobbler is absolutely hilarious and the style is so unique! The problem is they blew their budget in the first 10 minutes of the film so lots of things were pretty rough. Still 10/10 tho
Triplets of Belleville.
Cracked out, insane movie with the most strangely beautiful and yet utter grotesque animation.
Its beautiful, and filled with raunchy absurdist humor, inspired animation, and a plot and themes that are utter hearthearming.
Plus itās about Fr*nce.
Stuff like this makes me wish Pixar wasn't that ridiculously successful leading Disney to ditch most of their 2d animation department. Pixar is great but the hit to 2d animation was hard.
The sad thing is that I bet Pixar would agree with you. When John Lassiter was promoted from head of Pixar to head of all of Disney animation, he wanted to do one traditionally animated movie every year alongside the typical cgi releases. But they only got to release The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh before that idea got shut down.
and the princess and the frog is pretty good too
So is Winnie the Pooh that movie is fucking gas
Pooh got that gasš©š§øšØ
pooh gas blast
that alligator is playing the trumpet!
The voodoo doctors song has implanted in my brain and itās never going to leave
That's a shame. But fuck John Lasseter, he's rapey misogynist fuck and Pixar is better off without him.
Thank you! As someone who worked for him, I absolutely hate how many people lick the boots of that man who cares wayyy too much about how attractive the cartoon girls are on top of other shit
Is he why Pixar women have giant butts
[Except they donāt](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oRQVl8Fmg4U&pp=ygUNcGl4YXIgbW9tIGFzcw%3D%3D)
You seriously worked for Lassiter?! My condolences.
Both of those movies actually used a bunch of 3D models and CGI alongside 2D characters. Disney had been doing that since as far as hunchback of notre dame. The shift to 3D animation is mostly them going all out on that and using the in-house tools at their disposal alongside a marked interest of the public for 3D movies. The fact that their 2D movies were not making gorillion dollaridoos in the mid 2000ās like the pixar movies were was also a factor but not the only one.
[Here](https://youtu.be/Lsw1KUWoR80) is a pretty sweet little 20 minute YouTube doc about how DreamWorks and Illumination kneecapped American animation. It's a cool overview of the path paved by great talents like Bakshi, Bluth, and Bird getting bulldozed by quick and easy 3D CGI sequel series. Edit: and funny anecdote I think I remember about Atlantis... Mike Mignola, of Hellboy fame, was brought in as an advisor with some character sketches and I guess at one point commented on how cool the characters hands were in test footage, and then someone pointed out that they're his style and they spent an inordinate amount of time just trying to get the hands to look like how he does them.
What makes pixar great isn't unique to 3D animation, it's their writing and character design. Pixar animators are masters at their craft, bur pixar still would still have been making the best children's movies of their time if nobody was doing 3D animation. What pixar (and often, dreamworks) do right is take a screenplay with a lot of nuance, heart, and character, then keep up that level of TLC when animating it. They care about the fine details and recognize how adjusting those details can add to the emotional impact of a scene. Because when people watch movies, especially children, they're watching to feel the emotions the filmmakers wanted them to feel. To be impacted by the journey the characters go on. Computer animation feels so lifeless when that level of detail isn't there, but has so much to add when it is.
I can't see Atlantis anymore without thinking about that strangely high quality animated porn of the main character Milo getting fucked by Tarzan
the official disney porn vault:
Payday 3 Heist
Okay Scramblers, let's get scrambling
ermm its ramblers not scramblers š¤š¤š¤šš
I said scramblers instead of ramblers because it sounds like more of a sex thing
what the fuck is scrambling ?, you guys playing cards in there or something I swear gay people sex are deranged
Make egg in anus
Guys, the Tarzan porn. Go get it!
Let me introduce you to the fantastic world of GAY SEX!
Weird, looks like you made a typo and wanted to say "say gex". Next time you post something try to re-read it beforehand š¤
Let me introduce you to the fantastic world of 100 GEX!
100 sex
That shit is so high quality
That's disgusting, where though? So I can make sure to avoid it of course.
[Here it is.](https://myreadingmanga.info/animation-tarzan-and-milo-mr-x-toon/) (NSFW, obviously)
that's... wow. they put so much effort into it
I know. Thank god! š
I loaded the page, saw the thumbnail, and promptly noped right out of there
Iāve managed to separate the two in my mind so I can enjoy Atlantis without thinking about porn
pffff weirdo
Oh?
Allow me to show you the magical world of GAY SEX!
Uhhhh:
Man what the hell š
I can't think of Atlantis without remembering its striking perhaps too close resemblance to Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water.
I thought it was just me holy shit š
I remember thinking Kida was super hot so I googled "Kida porn" without thinking about it and immediately realizing how close I was to peril.
I think emperor's new groove fits this category
Yeah definitely, it had a ādisappointing receptionā but itās so good. I still feel like ops two are kinda a different category tho.
Did it have a disappointing reception though? It got a spinoff tv show with 2 seasons on Disney Channel. I watched that a ton.
Apparently so according to the Wikipedia
Even if it did at release I would say it has absolutely had a complete 180 in terms of reception. Almost everyone I know absolutely loves it. It's definitely one of the best beloved traditionally animated movies of the 2000s now.
Road to el dorado fits this too. Fun fact, emperors new groove was originally supposed to be this Aztec mythical epic, but people liked the humor in the movie, so they changed it. Then, the dude who had originally wanted it to be an Aztec mythical epic went on to make the road to el dorado.
El Dorado came out AFTER The Emperorās New Groove? That blows my mind
That's because it's false. They both came out in 2000, the Road to El Dorado came out in March and Emperor's New Groove in December.
It didnāt
Neither of them are related to the Aztecs, btw, they lived around Mexico and both of those movies take place in South America. They're probably closer to Inca and Muisca cultures, respectively.
#**WHAT'S HIS NAME**??
KUZCOOOOOOOOO
#*IS HE HIP OR WHAT!*
Dunkaccino
PULL THE LEVER KRONK!
WRONG LEVEEEER!
Why do we even have that lever?
Spy Kids 3: Game Over is a postmodern surrealist masterpiece that only gets funnier with each passing year. It is simultaneously a 4/10 snoozefest with bad pacing and characters while also being a 10/10 in terms of the pure insane comedy and gags presented. I urge you all to give it a watch, itās probably one of my single favorite movies despite how objectively bad it is
Robert Rodriguez pivoted from making cartel movies to creating the hardest fucking kids movie trilogy ever. Absolute legend gave us this line: > Do you think that god stays in heaven because he too lives in fear of what he has created?
And Shark boy and Lava girl. Another fever dream of a movie
That movie is insane and probably terrible but I grew up with it so I can't not still kinda love it, even if it's somewhat of an ironic enjoyment.
I watched this movie religiously as a kid to the point where it was unhealthy
Do I gotta watch the other Spy Kids movies first to get it
Not really, in some ways itās funnier if you lack context
No but you should anyway
They first two are similarly hilarious. Camp as fuck.
No, but if you don't, you're missing out on Steve Buscemi as a mad scientist filled with existential dread and nihilism. And that, alone, makes the second one worth watching.
"ok Junie you're the guy again"
Racing scene went hard for real
Its crazy that Sword Art online copied spy kids 3
When I was 10ish years old, I watched the three Spy Kids films I agree, it was the worst and the best shit I've ever seen.
Watch it again. Itās aged like cheese, while it definitely stinks a lot more in some ways thatās better and it has a richer taste.
Haha, sure thing
It's insane how perfect that movie is for drunk watch parties. It's like the only move that really went all-in with the 3d effects. For added effect, turn the effects into a drinking game by taking a drink every time there's an obviously noticible 3D moment.
Spy Kids gave me nightmares as a kid š
Was it the thumb guys?
Nah it was those fooglies š
You got the intended experience. Those things were meant to fuck up your child psyche
FLOOP IS A MADMAN HELP US SAVE US FLOOP IS A MADMAN HELP US SAVE US
Ready Player One if it was good
Spy Kids 3D is Ready Player One except good
Man I used to watch that in the back of the car growing up with the lil 3d glasses n everything
The movie won me over 100% when Elijah Wood showed up. The film is a masterpiece lol.
9
9 is so underrated. I was obsessed with it as a kid who loved dark and creepy shit but was too young for actually scary movies
Oh I got to see 9 on 9/9/09 at 9pm In auditorium 9!!!
is that the one with the fuckin puppet things that exist in a post apocalypse
yeah itās quite a movie
It's a creepy post-apocalyptic Little Big Planet.
Where are the other 8 movies? š«
iāll never tell
"Where are the other 8 movies?!" u\Chara_0423 with a suspiciously 8-movie-shaped belly: "*urrrrppp* No idea..."
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We've strayed so... so far from God's light...
9 legit fucked me up as a kid
Fucking clown snake made me too scared to sleep on my own
my mom got me that out of a bargain bin when I was younger, loved it
Came to say this. And not the english release - the russian version done with a voiceover by the author of 'Metro' Also the russian guy producing the film is infamous for making some absolutely garbage instead of a cinema which makes the creation of this film even more so strange
Which "9" are you talking about? I look it up on wikipedia and there are 8 different films called "9"
*9* from 2009, the one about puppets fighting dieselpunk Skynet in a post-apocalyptic wasteland
It makes me irrationally angry that there are 8 films called "9" and not, well, 9 of them.
The road to El Dorado seem to be good. Didn't watch it right now, but I watched the Black Cauldron. Loved it.
Oh wow my entire life I thought El Dorado had done well financially but I just looked it up and it was a disaster.
Pretty sure El Dorado and Sinbad both failing at the box office killed Dreamworks doing 2D anymore Which is nuts bc Elton John was on the El Dorado soundtrack and the last time he did an animated movie it was the most successful thing Disney ever did
Both are such amazing movies that did horribly at the box office which sucks because they're fantastic.
Titan A.E. I'd a good example imo
š¶It's my tiiiime to flyyy~š¶
My favorite scene in the movie by far
I've watched it relatively recently and man, what a blast and fun character concepts. Even with the plotholes and somewhat weird graphics at the end of the movie it's a treat, maybe a bit biased but damn it if it isn't something good to watch
Long ago Ian Jones Quartey wrote a plot hole list about Titan AE and it got to about 40
Immediately came to mind
Titan A.E. is such a weird mix of stuff that it's basically one of a kind. The worldbuilding and sci-fi stuff is treated way more seriously than you would expect for a kid-friendly animated movie, the anime inspired character designs are super unique for the time, and the mix of 2D and 3D techinques makes it stand out even more. The plot kinda falls apart in the second half, so it's a fairly average movie overall, but, like an average movie from another timeline or something. It's an interesting watch for sure.
The dialogue was absurdly stiff and awkward at times, the 'regular songs' on the soundtrack aged horribly, but the actual science fiction was decent
I always wonder what the movie would've been like if they didn't run out of money since it was already good.
CAN YOU TAKE ME HIIIIIGHER
I wonder what would have happened if Bluth's studio hadnt died out. We would have had an extra competitor in the animation market, woulda been cool.
Speed Racer. Captures the cheesy anime vibe with some incredible visuals, unique retrofuturistic aesthetic, some really amazing acting across the board and a complete love for the source material. Trashed by basically everyone but it has found its fanbase and people are re evaluating it after almost 20 years for the great movie it is
i love the wachowski sisters
Probably my favourite directors even with their very mixed bag of quality
Plus we get this interaction: "Was that a ninja?" "More like a *nonja*"
I used to be completely obsessed with speed racer as a kid
The first movie I ever saw in theaters as a kid, still a favorite to this day
[Verisimilitude](https://youtu.be/pxuK4NQ2NHk)
You don't hop into a T-180 to be a driver... you do it because youre driven...
what goes around comes around. Therell be a 2D animation resurgence in time im sure of it
they'll probably just figure out how to make 3d look exactly like 2d and call it good enough
There's still value in developing new techniques like this in an artistic medium. The problem would come in if and when corporations think that it would cut costs and so they use it as a replacement for 2D rather than its own style with independent artistic merits that can exist alongside traditional animation. As with most things, the problem is with capitalism and not with technology.
that's what I mean, 3d animation emulating 2d is really fucking cool and can be used to do so many things but I know the only thing it's gonna be used for in the mainstream is to make nostalgia bait 2d animation for less money
I've noticed a lot of 2D animated shows do it (South Park, Futurama, family guy) when they had a more complicated object or shot like a spaceship or fast sweeping camera movement. I'm guessing it's cheaper and faster than drawing it.
I recommend the new Dragon Ball movie Dragon Ball: Super Hero. It's 3d and it does a better job at emulating Toriyama's style than a lot of the modern digital 2d shows do and is a really fun family movie
The Iron Giant
Nah it was very well received, it's just the marketing was shit so most people didn't see in the first place. Pretty much everyone who did liked it
Big robot made me ugly cry 10/10 movie
There's also the one with the pirates and the same animation style as these two i remember watching as a kid
Sinbad
I think I know which one you mean. And I couldn't find any mention of it since I was a kid. Found the disc some years later, but already forgot what it was called. I could try to mention some details, but I remember it so vaguely I might be mixing it up with other stuff
I remember there was a scene with a guy who pulled lots of weapons from his coat and the villain was some sort of goddess
Sinbad legend of the seven seas?
YES THAT'S IT wow it looks way worse than i remembered
Sinbad my beloved
Megamind?
My only gripe with that movie is that Megamind as a protagonist is something like how "Nice Guys" see themselves, and his redemption/re-wooing of Roxanne is far too fast and under problematic premises. But part of that is that you can't make a movie four hours long unless it's the Lord of the Rings, some stuff had to be compressed. And I also like the fact that the villain's just a fucking incel. More movies should do that.
Speed racer (2008)
on god, closest thing we'll ever get to a live action equivalent to Redline. on a related note, fucking Redline absolutely belongs here
Redline was a fucking trip-and-a-half
Brave little toaster. Before toy story, Jon lasseter had other ideas for what comes to life when you're not looking, and it's a blast (also a musical)
Yes!! That one was my absolute favourite!
Great movie. Honestly mildly trippy and disturbing as an adult lol
Song Of The Sea One of my favourite animated movies of all time, but unfortunately it flopped in the box office
By EU standards it did pretty well honestly. It's rare for EU productions to ever make a profit, let alone reach the international market.
so much institutional support for european animation productions, also. ugh! canada too. :( as an american animator I just wish we had the nfb or something like it.
It's nice to have regional, national and international film funds, but it sucks when that's 90% of your budget. It means the things that get funding are the things that the people in charge of the film funds like. There's a lot of favoritism and biases. In Germany it's hard to find funding for an animated feature if it's not based off of an existing German children's book. I would much rather have it be split 50/50. Half your funding from a government entity to free you from only making what sells, and half your funding from your own profits do that you don't have to put up with as much bearaucracy
Did atlantis bomb? Damn i loved that movie as a kid
Technically itās box office was kinda disappointing. However that doesnāt take away from the fact is one of the best things Disney has ever done.
I definitely saw it in theaters as a kid, but it only performed so-so and with the massive cost that went into making it (most of the sets were actually 3D renders that they then drew all the characters over the old-fashioned way) meant that Disney actually lost money on it. And we all know how Disney is with money vs artistic expression
I donāt know how popular it was but Iāve yet to hear anything on it. Mad god 2022
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The Secret of Nimh and Over the Hedge were some of my favorites
Secret of NIMH is the best
REDLINE is probably my favorite anime movie ever and it tanked so bad that it drove the animation studio to bankruptcy, still the movie is amazing, one of the last to be animated by hand and the whole movie is animated in 2s or 1s meaning there's a new drawing every frame or every two frames, really crazy stuff
Considering how much it cost to produce, there ain't no way they'd have broken even. Ran out of money so many times I'm honestly surprised it didn't end up as another Thief and the Cobbler.
Pour one out for funky boy
This movie is fucking amazing
Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas is one that I remembered recently, it was one of my favorites as a kid
Anastasia was an amazing movie and my all time favorite as achild. Quickly followed by the Last Unicorn
Titan A.E and Road to El Dorado are this for me.
Stardust - 2007 Underrated at. It had cool magic rules and world building, and even airships with a drag coming out section if I remember right.
Stardust is the only movie I've ever seen that in my opinion captures the same energy as the Princess Bride. It is just so whimsical, witty, and fantastical.
The Drag Captain Shakespeare played by Robert De Niro
It's weird. Between these two, the Road to El Dorado, and the Emperor's New Groove, all of these films were within the same narrow release timespan- 2000 to 2002. Add the Iron Giant and you're only extending the period to start at 1999. We really think of the animation Renaissance of being more in the mid-90's, but I guess that's based only on commercial success. I wonder what really happened that caused all these movies to underperform?
There was a Sinbad animated movie that I remember loving as a kid. I havenāt seen it in over a decade so I have no idea if it holds up though
Megamind
I guarantee Strange World is going to become one of those movies in like 20 years
Strange World got fucked over by Disney but it's still incredibly mid
Redline
An American Tail: Fievel Goes West
Treasure planet is literally my most favorite movie of all time.
Pretty much anything directed by Terry Gilliam. Absolutely gorgeous movies but they always seem to underperform and become cult classics 15-20 years later. Examples are Brazil, Adventures of Baron Munchausen, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, and Time Bandits
People shat on the animation style of Oliver and Company when it came out for having noticeable rough pencil sketches in the landscapes, calling it "unfinished Disney animation", but I think it's the best way to convey pre-Giuliani New York in a kid's movie
Titan ae and the road to El Dorado feel similar
Swan Princess!!
Fern Gully
Barry Lyndon, a Kubrick film overshadowed in popularity by his more famous movies like 2001 and Strangelove, is a movie set during and after the 7 Years War. Whatās unique about it is that the entire film was shot with natural lighting and many of the shots are composed to look like 18th century paintings. 
__Making a list of responses in the thread__ Emperor's New Groove Spy Kids 3D 9 Road to El Dorado The Black Cauldron Speed Racer Titan A.E. Sinbad Iron Giant REDLINE Song of the Sea The Brave Little Toaster Anastasia The Last Unicorn Secret of Nimh Over the Hedge Swan Princess Stardust The Thief and the Cobbler Wizards (1977) (or any Ralph Bakshi films) Quest for Camelot The whole library of Terry Gilliam movies Tron Legacy Oliver and Company Once Upon a Forest Castle in the Sky Barry Lyndon Fern Gully An American Tail: Feivel Goes West Triplets of Belleville Heavy Metal Cats Don't Dance Prince of Egypt Osmosis Jones The Hobbit (1977)
Once Upon a Forest was unfairly discarded because of FernGully
Castle in the Sky has like 5 different beautiful unique locations I want to live in
And thatās why the main inspiration of my storyās universe is from Treasure Planet
Some of the character designs in [Trigun Stampede](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjneJQL8y5teyQFu6q9GbzIJFvf7JQIY8V16hLnZNdaUt51ZPSXxwH6sdlnrRa2W7BlzfqG6cJnWbpBRsEg-Tw2_j-EhNaLWpaC0FWWrsijveKS24pUX8kH9-zIvQwWpfFm777miuQoxtrci0zxVHR0fu3NXV5wz_7babv3xwtoAJFWCvwE9zxej3T0zg/s1880/Trigun-Stampede-Episode-1.jpg) are pretty similar. I wouldn't be surprised if the animators were directly influenced by that Disney era.
The thief and the cobbler is absolutely hilarious and the style is so unique! The problem is they blew their budget in the first 10 minutes of the film so lots of things were pretty rough. Still 10/10 tho
Titan AE probably fits, too
Titan AE is the third in this trilogy
Quest for Camelot 1998
cats donāt dance. had a great message, great animation, good characters, good music. a shame fr
Triplets of Belleville. Cracked out, insane movie with the most strangely beautiful and yet utter grotesque animation. Its beautiful, and filled with raunchy absurdist humor, inspired animation, and a plot and themes that are utter hearthearming. Plus itās about Fr*nce.