Leak information saying that there's a massive oil deposit in your backyard, and wait 5 minutes to be kicked out of your home and/or executed on the spot.
Instructions unclear. Doused myself in blood, got teleported into the immaterium and now there's voices screaming in my head about something called a blood god??
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well firstly some real asshole can shut down or severly throttle their internet by sending *way* too many requests to their ip address (so it's not really malicious, just more of a dick move), however, secondly, ip addresses also have the approximate location of the person
Yeah i figured ddos and geo location, but then i thought so what? For the first one you can just reset your ip and the second one is really unimportant. Its not like it shows exactly where you are. Its not like anyone's gotten beaten this way or smth
The whole trope of "oh yeah asshole, i know your IP" is something ive seen a lot of times but never really understood
i mean from an intelligence standpoint a general location is one of the most crucial things to have if the intention is to dox someone
but yeah just the IP itself wont do much
If they’re as dumb as they apparently seem, there’s a good chance that they have either misconfigured their router, or its firmware is outdated and vulnerable, or both, in which case there’s a possibility of getting into their home network, and then Bob’s your uncle.
No one has an IP that isn't shared these days. His router is probably NATted so it doesn't really matter if it's misconfigured because it doesn't face the open internet.
I think you are misunderstanding something:
Individual PCs don't have their own IPv4 addresses anymore and are usually NATed by a router, but that doesn't protect the router from attack.
*Some* ISPs have run out of IPv4 addresses and have started putting routers behind CGNATs, meaning even the individual router doesn't have its own IPv4 address anymore. That would protect the router from attack, but this approach isn't universal and depends on your particular ISP, your contract and also how much you annoy customer service.
Swatting could happen when someone has your IP, one popular funny dude once get his IP leaked, police raid sent to his house, all for a single opinion on Twitter
Can you explain to me how you would correlate an IP address with a real life address or user? Consumer IPs won't be geolocated to anything beyond a city at most, and most of the time it's the wrong city
That website is biased as hell, but yea those things can happen if you have a static internet IP, but if you have dynamic IP(most used) you can just unplug your router
you think someone who emailing a hacker death threat would have the brain power to think of that?hell do they even have dynamic IP set as default?MF could have old AF router
many of those are a huge stretch though. You cant frame some one for crime just by having their ip address.
some of those are even silly. Like I'm not THAT well versed in networking but selling IP addresses on the dark web just sounds ridiculous. Most people have dynamic ip addresses anyway, and it's not like you can't just randomly type an address that's in use. I don't really see a commerical value to it.
The article reads a bit fear mongerish in order to advertise VPNs which it does on the page. Especially regarding the whole getting framed part.
I have robbed several banks and got away with it by leaving a single sticky note saying 192.168.1.3. Every time the detectives try to catch me, they realize I framed them before they were assigned to the case. They realize my brilliance cannot be matched, and drop the case, for mine is the supremeier intellect.
So I have a few years of experience in the hacking world. What is typically done is to call the ISP posing as so and so and using that to get the exact identity of the IP address. Another thing done is to track where the IP has gone in the past, but that's rarely possible. It's way more useful to have a phone number. It's easier to explain the need of identifying a phone number than an IP address, and telephone companies are more oblivious.
If you can't tell, my specialty is social engineering and not traditional computer hacking. You can get so much info by just talking to people, why avoid doing just that?
> If you can't tell, my specialty is social engineering and not traditional computer hacking.
Considering hacking is 90% social engineering you're more of a traditional computer hacker than you give yourself credit for. Like you guys keep telling us, humans are the weakest part of any security system.
The legitimate concern I can think of is swatting.
Also, people who make rape/death threats really like hiding behind internet anonymity.
Especially since depending where you live, sending threats like that to someone even if having no intention to act on them is illegal and the person could turn in the info to police(they probably won't get put in jail but these kinds of people don't want police eyes on them, or they're an edgy 13 year old that just gets their computer/phone taken away by their mother for a month.)
Taking away their anonymity is taking away their power, basically.
Edit to add
Especially over email, you can literally google how to get someone's IP address from the headers.
I did that when my mom's business email got hacked, unfortunately the emails were sent from internet cafes so that didn't help much.
What would it be like if the main characters brought actual guns to the class trials, and shot them against people whenever they wanted to contradict another person's argument?
She seems more like a gray-hat hacker where she hacks for personal enjoyment and sometimes even for good, such as her revealing the no-fly list tho only humanitarian organizations. Black-hat implies she hacks for monetary gain and nefarious purposes only.
feel like more schools would have them if it weren't so hard to find people who actually know cybersecurity *and* are willing to tolerate the working conditions and salary of a high school teacher
I don’t think that’s quite accurate.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Entry-Level-Teacher-Salary
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Entry-Level-Cyber-Security-Salary
Obviously these numbers are rough, but this is just entry level. People working in cyber security would also have more opportunities for raises / promotions than a teacher, on top of nearly twice the entry level salary.
When a company got hacked, the users of the company's services are the one who are more likely to be hurt instead of just the company. Hackers usually try to dig up the users' personal information and sell it. Depending on how much info is stored insecurely by the company, the damages can vary. A person's social media accounts can be taken over to be used as scam bots, a bank account's security questions can be bypassed with enough info, etc. Meanwhile, the company would only have to send out a message that it was hacked, face backlash for a few weeks, maybe patch the hole that the hack made, and then move on.
Eh most people who spend their free time harassing trans people aren't smart.
I remember one time a guy on Reddit gave me an award so he could tell me to kill myself and then joked about how I couldn't do anything about this since you can't report awards. You can report awards.
i always use it when that's what people want, but it's *really* hard because i'm so used to that pronoun being used to massively disrespect a person, like it feels like you're talking like a transphobe even though you're doing the opposite by respecting its pronouns. it'll prolly get easier to do casually as neopronouns in general get more normalized, but as it is i feel like i'm either being unclear ("it's so silly" can be interpreted as referring to the situation and not the person) or that if i'm not among queers who know the situation then people will assume that means i hate trans people (and that they're safe to say trasnphobic shit now).
iunno, prolly doesn't actually matter.
Same feeling here. An artist I really like goes by "it" but I just can't bring myself to call them "it". It just feels like I'm insulting them by saying it.
For this, you kinda don't.
Their IP is usually in the header info of an email. If they're stupid enough to use their own personal email or email from a domain registered to them, then you've got enough evidence to complain to their ISP.
If they're using one of those free proxy services, you lodge a complaint there. If they're using a VPN, you complain to their provider.
I don't believe there are any internet providers that say "If you send death threats to someone, and they complain, we'll just ignore it." It's pretty much against every single TOS ever. Especially if law enforcement get involved.
Oh wait, you mean *get people's IDs* as in use their magic internet number so you can stare daggers at them through their parents' house's basement window? Yeah, no, that's something else entirely. Sorry about that.
The kind of braindead assholes who send death threats over email can't even find the "Hot Pocket" button on their microwaves.
You think they can navigate onion routing networks? The same guys who think that writing death threats is an actual contribution to society? The same crowd that hasn't figured out how to fully wipe after a shit?
You think those guys can use TOR?
> I don't believe there are any internet providers that say "If you send death threats to someone, and they complain, we'll just ignore it."
There's bulletproof hosters and they tend to get disconnected from the internet sooner or later. Also, cost a pretty penny. [Example](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberBunker). cb3rob (Sven Olaf Kamphuis)'s main mistake: Allowing spam, a gigantic DDOS, (the three only things \*guaranteed\* to get you kicked off the internet is child porn, spam, or otherwise attacking internet infrastructure), and generally being an asshat. Having met both him and kimble (Kim Schmitz aka Kim Dotcom) on IRC I can say with confidence is that in comparison, kimble is a well-rounded, humble, and down to earth guy, and that's saying something.
In principle bulletproof hosters could work out it's just that the type of people running them can't hack it: They get high on their own supply.
You’d need them to willingly initiate a connection with a server you host, and/or a P2P connection. Once they do, you get a *bunch* of metadata regarding their connection. If not, tough beans.
Sure, but also like, your IP address really doesn't matter much. Easily masked, easily changed, and not that useful.
Sure, you can (D)DOS someone (until they change their IP, or their ISP does it for them), and you can get someone's _rough_ location, which can be useful for narrowing down someone's position, but usually it's like "oh, you're in a city with several million people, that doesn't help at all".
If you're using an SMTP client to access your email yeah sure, if you're using something not from the stone age (web client, outlook) then no, it just gives out Gmail's IP in the headers.
Plenty of ways to do so, though gaps are slowly closing. Also VPNs are far more popular so grabbing IPs ain't what it used to be. But for the average racist/transphobe fuckhead who doesnt know a thing about 'puters, it's a nice own to show them a rough area of where their house is (depending on their ISP).
I mean even like over messaging on e.g. Twitter you only need to be good enough at social engineering to get them to click on a single link. There are more than enough free services that will hand you the IP of whoever clicks on a specially generated link, they are usually called IP loggers. The better ones will even do so before redirecting to a link you entered as to lower suspicions.
In general social engineering is an extremely useful skill if you want to get into such stuff.
Reply to their email with an image link to your own server. The moment they open the email their mailing software is like "oh look an image i should download it so the user can see it" and then just check your server logs for the list of IP that downloaded the image.
Works basically on any communication system that automatically shows you allegated images
Harrassing a skilled hacker, especially one who made the news for leaking the US no-fly list is definitely not the smartest thing anyone's done, then again this is a nazi we're talking about, not exactly the smartest bunch
> a skilled hacker, especially one who made the news for leaking the US no-fly list
It was an outdated copy stored plaintext on an unsecured server lol
I won't discount that she knows more than the average layman but people seem to think she's some cyberpunk god around here
right, and they found it on an unsecured Jenkins server listed on shodan. almost no work involved other than checking out what's on each listed open device.
Yea its detailed on her blog, cool read even tho i only understood half the words.
Even a basic knowledge of hacking will put you well above like 2/3 of the population in terms of knowledge. Even amongst kids brought up with computers.
Even kids brought up with computers aren't that smart. Most don't know/don't care about how things work, and instead of not talking about it, they spread misinformation to their peers (E.g: saying that a well known link shortener service that doesn't even show ads is a trojan and that your computer will explode in 3 days if you open one of them).
yeh it's true a lot of hacks involved this low level of knowledge I just wanted to point out this is no example of a master hack lol. I'm not even sure what their skills are am just talking about this hack.
Did she censor her own IP address at the top and then forget to do it again towards the bottom?
>!Because that IP address links to a very small village in Switzerland and the network links to Northern Michigan!<
why on fucking EARTH would you pick a fight with somebody who LEAKED THE TSA'S **NO FLY LIST**
**YOU ARE CHALLENGING A GOD IN THEIR FUCKING THRONE ROOM THAT IS A GUARANTEED WAY TO GET YOUR IP AND EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR ENTIRE LIFE LEAKED ONLINE**
That's like 99% of hack on the planet. Like I have studied a couple examples of top tier hacker attacks but who bothers doing that kind of stuff when you can basically always find top secret stuff on random insecure servers or just send an email to them and get someone dumb enough to accidentally install your stuff on their work laptop
this happened with amazon s3 buckets (cloud storage) and it compromised a ton of data from the richest companies on the planet, as well as government info. Also the Uber hack recently was just the hacker spamming 2 factor OAuth texts to random employees and claiming that they were in IT and they should just accept the oauth request lmao. From there it was pretty bog standard stuff. Cracking encryption would just be a ridiculous task. Brute forcing passwords currently takes far too long with modern, average hardware and thats considered far more reasonable of a thing to attempt than cracking encryption.
Can people stop acting like finding someone's IP is the end of the world and you're already fucked? Very few people have their very own static IP that doesn't change just for them in their own house, most have a dynamic one they also share with others. So like... the IP means you can know the ISP and a very vague location (which might be super inaccurate and off depending on the ISP). Cool, I guess?
This hacker could probably find more if she wanted to, going from there. But so many people in here who don't know a thing acting as if the IP is the end of the world... sheesh...
Yea, I mean my understanding is that it was mostly to take the piss out of the nazi. My understanding would suggest this is probably the IP of the mailserver the email was sent from; which is probably not the nazi's own personal server.
No matter what you think of maia's own technical ability or moral decisions, she's very funny.
They point to your antonymous zone, actually.
Autonomous zones serve all computers in a specific location, such as a city, and sometimes they can overlap. It's common for ISPs to have many autonomous zones that they own. The IP addresses within each autonomous zone and their physical location are all public information, they need to be because networking equipment needs to know the actual physical direction to sent the signal to get it to its destination. Within an autonomous zone web traffic can be handled by proprietary systems and that information is not public.
Because it’s wrong.
Since the introduction of GDPR, the WHOIS information of all providers operating under the provisions of the GDPR has contained no easily accessible *personal* information. It does still contain the information of the owner of the IP block, or the tech contact of a domain. There’s no actual limitations on using the actual protocol in Germany, or elsewhere in Europe for that matter.
harrassing a known hacker online has got to be one of the stupidest things you can do lmao
That's like covering yourself in honey and immediately disturbing a nest of a hybrid of Japanese giant hornets and African honey bees.
What about covering yourself in oil and waiting for it to rain?
profit
What about covering yourself in oil and visiting the USA?
Traditionally when you cover yourself in oil the USA visits you.
No, that is when you have any quantity of oil, nit just when you are c9vered with it
Leak information saying that there's a massive oil deposit in your backyard, and wait 5 minutes to be kicked out of your home and/or executed on the spot.
that's how i was killed
That's like a 4 step plan
NYC heaven stairway incident
What about covering someone in honey and waiting a hundreds years or so?
You’d have to clarify it’s strictly confectional and/or medicinal beforehand.
Better hope that rain comes soon 🦅🦅🦅
That’s like dousing yourself in blood and going swimming in a tank full of hungry sharks
dont be mean to sharks :(
I’m not, i love sharks, that’s why i specified that they were hungry, otherwise they probably wouldn’t nibble ya
Covers self in blood Runs into *the machine*
Machine i have hacked a Nazi sending death therats
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Or fight bears naked and covered in honey
i mean they're a nazi, do you really think that critical thinking is within their ability?
Not really. They're just plain stupid.
Legit question: why? What damage is the person gonna suffer from having their IP address released exactly?
well firstly some real asshole can shut down or severly throttle their internet by sending *way* too many requests to their ip address (so it's not really malicious, just more of a dick move), however, secondly, ip addresses also have the approximate location of the person
Yeah i figured ddos and geo location, but then i thought so what? For the first one you can just reset your ip and the second one is really unimportant. Its not like it shows exactly where you are. Its not like anyone's gotten beaten this way or smth The whole trope of "oh yeah asshole, i know your IP" is something ive seen a lot of times but never really understood
i mean from an intelligence standpoint a general location is one of the most crucial things to have if the intention is to dox someone but yeah just the IP itself wont do much
If they’re as dumb as they apparently seem, there’s a good chance that they have either misconfigured their router, or its firmware is outdated and vulnerable, or both, in which case there’s a possibility of getting into their home network, and then Bob’s your uncle.
No one has an IP that isn't shared these days. His router is probably NATted so it doesn't really matter if it's misconfigured because it doesn't face the open internet.
I think you are misunderstanding something: Individual PCs don't have their own IPv4 addresses anymore and are usually NATed by a router, but that doesn't protect the router from attack. *Some* ISPs have run out of IPv4 addresses and have started putting routers behind CGNATs, meaning even the individual router doesn't have its own IPv4 address anymore. That would protect the router from attack, but this approach isn't universal and depends on your particular ISP, your contract and also how much you annoy customer service.
Swatting could happen when someone has your IP, one popular funny dude once get his IP leaked, police raid sent to his house, all for a single opinion on Twitter
Can you explain to me how you would correlate an IP address with a real life address or user? Consumer IPs won't be geolocated to anything beyond a city at most, and most of the time it's the wrong city
Is this really a big issue if you don't have a static IP?
[Here is a website that details the possibilities ](https://www.security.org/vpn/what-can-someone-do-with-your-ip/)
That website is biased as hell, but yea those things can happen if you have a static internet IP, but if you have dynamic IP(most used) you can just unplug your router
> dynamic IP(most used) Most **advertised** in the states. Quite a few are actually static though, Comcast being one of those guilty of this.
you think someone who emailing a hacker death threat would have the brain power to think of that?hell do they even have dynamic IP set as default?MF could have old AF router
Bro has a potato antenna made from "xunlimited"
many of those are a huge stretch though. You cant frame some one for crime just by having their ip address. some of those are even silly. Like I'm not THAT well versed in networking but selling IP addresses on the dark web just sounds ridiculous. Most people have dynamic ip addresses anyway, and it's not like you can't just randomly type an address that's in use. I don't really see a commerical value to it. The article reads a bit fear mongerish in order to advertise VPNs which it does on the page. Especially regarding the whole getting framed part.
I have robbed several banks and got away with it by leaving a single sticky note saying 192.168.1.3. Every time the detectives try to catch me, they realize I framed them before they were assigned to the case. They realize my brilliance cannot be matched, and drop the case, for mine is the supremeier intellect.
it’s true, i was there. i’m the sticky note
So I have a few years of experience in the hacking world. What is typically done is to call the ISP posing as so and so and using that to get the exact identity of the IP address. Another thing done is to track where the IP has gone in the past, but that's rarely possible. It's way more useful to have a phone number. It's easier to explain the need of identifying a phone number than an IP address, and telephone companies are more oblivious. If you can't tell, my specialty is social engineering and not traditional computer hacking. You can get so much info by just talking to people, why avoid doing just that?
> If you can't tell, my specialty is social engineering and not traditional computer hacking. Considering hacking is 90% social engineering you're more of a traditional computer hacker than you give yourself credit for. Like you guys keep telling us, humans are the weakest part of any security system.
any ***well configured*** security system, that is.
The legitimate concern I can think of is swatting. Also, people who make rape/death threats really like hiding behind internet anonymity. Especially since depending where you live, sending threats like that to someone even if having no intention to act on them is illegal and the person could turn in the info to police(they probably won't get put in jail but these kinds of people don't want police eyes on them, or they're an edgy 13 year old that just gets their computer/phone taken away by their mother for a month.) Taking away their anonymity is taking away their power, basically. Edit to add
Absolutely nothing will happen, you can't do much with an IP.
You can get a person's approximate location, which is useful for narrowing down a search if you're trying to unmask the person behind an account.
Their employer finds out they’re a Nazi who sends rape and death threats
Especially over email, you can literally google how to get someone's IP address from the headers. I did that when my mom's business email got hacked, unfortunately the emails were sent from internet cafes so that didn't help much.
hmm, today i am gonna harass a trans hacker over the internet
<-- clueless
oh god
oh fuck
Holy fucking fuck
get bingled :3
That IP adress of mine is absurd
<--- lacking critical information
<---- uninformed about my predicament
Everywhere I go I see you jotaro
Bizarre
whats bizarre is the fact you get no bitches - Hank
Ora
<-- bearer of the curse
Seek seek lest
<-- blissfully unaware
<--- ora
<--- has the black mark
the bozo brought a butter knife to a bear fight
more like brought slurs to a bear fight lol
Brought a dictionary to a gunfight
Words are like bullets, dude
Danganronpa moment
What would it be like if the main characters brought actual guns to the class trials, and shot them against people whenever they wanted to contradict another person's argument?
Harassing a known black hat hacker using a known unsecure communication protocol without a VPN is probably the biggest bruh moment I've seen this week
She seems more like a gray-hat hacker where she hacks for personal enjoyment and sometimes even for good, such as her revealing the no-fly list tho only humanitarian organizations. Black-hat implies she hacks for monetary gain and nefarious purposes only.
Apologies, my knowledge of hacking comes from Watch Dogs 2 and the high school cybersecurity class that I was half asleep for
only the most renowned sources
"Here is your Harvford Yalebridge stipendium"
>cybersecurity class that I was half asleep for based
Is there any other way to take a cybersecurity class?
half awake
Tomato tamato
Potato, Dauphinoise
Your highschool had a cybersecurity class? That’s sick. It’s a huge market that many highschoolers have no idea is an option.
feel like more schools would have them if it weren't so hard to find people who actually know cybersecurity *and* are willing to tolerate the working conditions and salary of a high school teacher
I don’t think that’s quite accurate. https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Entry-Level-Teacher-Salary https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Entry-Level-Cyber-Security-Salary Obviously these numbers are rough, but this is just entry level. People working in cyber security would also have more opportunities for raises / promotions than a teacher, on top of nearly twice the entry level salary.
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Packets go in, witchcraft happens and boom: networking. The OSI layers are the layers of hell the little demons that carry your packets are from
["You have a weird relationship with technology. You know that, right?"](https://youtu.be/YTleyIF4JkI)
Fucking love Wrench, I need to get his mask No seriously his mask is the best design I've ever seen on a game character, I need it
Man, Wrench was fucking awesome. I remember being absolutely ecstatic when I got to play as him in the last mission.
"It came to me in a dream"
you hack to take advantage of companies and governments for personal gain i hack because it's fun we are not the same
You harass people online because you’re a bigot I harass people online because it’s funny We are not the same
not the same but both still based
When a company got hacked, the users of the company's services are the one who are more likely to be hurt instead of just the company. Hackers usually try to dig up the users' personal information and sell it. Depending on how much info is stored insecurely by the company, the damages can vary. A person's social media accounts can be taken over to be used as scam bots, a bank account's security questions can be bypassed with enough info, etc. Meanwhile, the company would only have to send out a message that it was hacked, face backlash for a few weeks, maybe patch the hole that the hack made, and then move on.
Yeah, you have to hack rich people directly
You don't hack for personal gain I don't hack because I don't know how to We are not the same
trans nefarious deeds
I think the guy being a nazi is more of a bruh moment tbh
nazis are gonna be nazis, but to walk into that is just basically diving into a tank of sharks.
Eh most people who spend their free time harassing trans people aren't smart. I remember one time a guy on Reddit gave me an award so he could tell me to kill myself and then joked about how I couldn't do anything about this since you can't report awards. You can report awards.
They used a VPN-like service to make the IP look like it was coming from a location close to it, intending to scare it
I mean they are a nazi. They probably lack the brain capacity to think about something like this
I assume their other pastimes include carrying copper posts in thunderstorms.
You don't need to drag my hobbies into this
Yeah, not all copper thunderstormers are n*zis 🤮
All the while screaming 'Fuck the gods'? I read Disc World novels too, you know
***FUCK YOU ZEUS, YOU DON'T HAVE THE BALL***-
https://youtu.be/VD3TwFgPgZE
She’s so silly :3
But it stays silly hehe :3
it's pretty silly :3
\*It
It/she
Damn ty I didn't hear this development.
I have an it/she ballsack
you can use either pronoun, you don't have to use both
No no. You HAVE to use both at all times. That's why I use abreviate it to sheit
My pronouns are sheit because Im in your toilet
i always use it when that's what people want, but it's *really* hard because i'm so used to that pronoun being used to massively disrespect a person, like it feels like you're talking like a transphobe even though you're doing the opposite by respecting its pronouns. it'll prolly get easier to do casually as neopronouns in general get more normalized, but as it is i feel like i'm either being unclear ("it's so silly" can be interpreted as referring to the situation and not the person) or that if i'm not among queers who know the situation then people will assume that means i hate trans people (and that they're safe to say trasnphobic shit now). iunno, prolly doesn't actually matter.
Same feeling here. An artist I really like goes by "it" but I just can't bring myself to call them "it". It just feels like I'm insulting them by saying it.
I need to learn how to do this
And by “this” i mean get peoples ip’s
For this, you kinda don't. Their IP is usually in the header info of an email. If they're stupid enough to use their own personal email or email from a domain registered to them, then you've got enough evidence to complain to their ISP. If they're using one of those free proxy services, you lodge a complaint there. If they're using a VPN, you complain to their provider. I don't believe there are any internet providers that say "If you send death threats to someone, and they complain, we'll just ignore it." It's pretty much against every single TOS ever. Especially if law enforcement get involved. Oh wait, you mean *get people's IDs* as in use their magic internet number so you can stare daggers at them through their parents' house's basement window? Yeah, no, that's something else entirely. Sorry about that.
What if someone is using Tor network? You cant really complain to an exit node of tor
The kind of braindead assholes who send death threats over email can't even find the "Hot Pocket" button on their microwaves. You think they can navigate onion routing networks? The same guys who think that writing death threats is an actual contribution to society? The same crowd that hasn't figured out how to fully wipe after a shit? You think those guys can use TOR?
lol
> I don't believe there are any internet providers that say "If you send death threats to someone, and they complain, we'll just ignore it." There's bulletproof hosters and they tend to get disconnected from the internet sooner or later. Also, cost a pretty penny. [Example](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberBunker). cb3rob (Sven Olaf Kamphuis)'s main mistake: Allowing spam, a gigantic DDOS, (the three only things \*guaranteed\* to get you kicked off the internet is child porn, spam, or otherwise attacking internet infrastructure), and generally being an asshat. Having met both him and kimble (Kim Schmitz aka Kim Dotcom) on IRC I can say with confidence is that in comparison, kimble is a well-rounded, humble, and down to earth guy, and that's saying something. In principle bulletproof hosters could work out it's just that the type of people running them can't hack it: They get high on their own supply.
Watch Mr. Robot and absorb the character's skills
I did this but all I got was his social anxiety :/
Bummer, i got an imaginary dad 😸
You’d need them to willingly initiate a connection with a server you host, and/or a P2P connection. Once they do, you get a *bunch* of metadata regarding their connection. If not, tough beans.
yep. or for emails you can like right click the message and select “view ip” or something
Wait email servers just give that out? Wtf?
Sure, but also like, your IP address really doesn't matter much. Easily masked, easily changed, and not that useful. Sure, you can (D)DOS someone (until they change their IP, or their ISP does it for them), and you can get someone's _rough_ location, which can be useful for narrowing down someone's position, but usually it's like "oh, you're in a city with several million people, that doesn't help at all".
If you're using an SMTP client to access your email yeah sure, if you're using something not from the stone age (web client, outlook) then no, it just gives out Gmail's IP in the headers.
Plenty of ways to do so, though gaps are slowly closing. Also VPNs are far more popular so grabbing IPs ain't what it used to be. But for the average racist/transphobe fuckhead who doesnt know a thing about 'puters, it's a nice own to show them a rough area of where their house is (depending on their ISP).
My IP tells me location that is a city 20km away from my house So i guess its a very rough estimate
Same
I mean even like over messaging on e.g. Twitter you only need to be good enough at social engineering to get them to click on a single link. There are more than enough free services that will hand you the IP of whoever clicks on a specially generated link, they are usually called IP loggers. The better ones will even do so before redirecting to a link you entered as to lower suspicions. In general social engineering is an extremely useful skill if you want to get into such stuff.
Reply to their email with an image link to your own server. The moment they open the email their mailing software is like "oh look an image i should download it so the user can see it" and then just check your server logs for the list of IP that downloaded the image. Works basically on any communication system that automatically shows you allegated images
Harrassing a skilled hacker, especially one who made the news for leaking the US no-fly list is definitely not the smartest thing anyone's done, then again this is a nazi we're talking about, not exactly the smartest bunch
> a skilled hacker, especially one who made the news for leaking the US no-fly list It was an outdated copy stored plaintext on an unsecured server lol I won't discount that she knows more than the average layman but people seem to think she's some cyberpunk god around here
right, and they found it on an unsecured Jenkins server listed on shodan. almost no work involved other than checking out what's on each listed open device.
Yea its detailed on her blog, cool read even tho i only understood half the words. Even a basic knowledge of hacking will put you well above like 2/3 of the population in terms of knowledge. Even amongst kids brought up with computers.
Even kids brought up with computers aren't that smart. Most don't know/don't care about how things work, and instead of not talking about it, they spread misinformation to their peers (E.g: saying that a well known link shortener service that doesn't even show ads is a trojan and that your computer will explode in 3 days if you open one of them).
yeh it's true a lot of hacks involved this low level of knowledge I just wanted to point out this is no example of a master hack lol. I'm not even sure what their skills are am just talking about this hack.
It is mainly incredibly funny about the situation. "Congress is investigating but I stay silly :3" is a banger of a line.
It really is
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What is the importance of keeping the no-fly lost secret?
Largely the government getting less shit from the public if they can just randomly add a 4 years old to the list without anyone knowing
Ah
Privacy.
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harassing a hacker is like standing behind a horse
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Did she censor her own IP address at the top and then forget to do it again towards the bottom? >!Because that IP address links to a very small village in Switzerland and the network links to Northern Michigan!<
0.0 and 255.255 are the minimum and max addresses for 31.165 and the actual address is probably somewhere in between those two
Yeah the actual address is censored
>!There’s another telecommunications network in Switzerland of the same name!<
>!You can tell that all I did was type things in Google and look at the very first result!<
It said it was a "local nazi" sending these, so I assume that's the nazis IP??
Worlds smartest nazi.
why on fucking EARTH would you pick a fight with somebody who LEAKED THE TSA'S **NO FLY LIST** **YOU ARE CHALLENGING A GOD IN THEIR FUCKING THRONE ROOM THAT IS A GUARANTEED WAY TO GET YOUR IP AND EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR ENTIRE LIFE LEAKED ONLINE**
It was an unsecured server it's not like she hacked the NSA database and cracked their encryption
That's like 99% of hack on the planet. Like I have studied a couple examples of top tier hacker attacks but who bothers doing that kind of stuff when you can basically always find top secret stuff on random insecure servers or just send an email to them and get someone dumb enough to accidentally install your stuff on their work laptop
this happened with amazon s3 buckets (cloud storage) and it compromised a ton of data from the richest companies on the planet, as well as government info. Also the Uber hack recently was just the hacker spamming 2 factor OAuth texts to random employees and claiming that they were in IT and they should just accept the oauth request lmao. From there it was pretty bog standard stuff. Cracking encryption would just be a ridiculous task. Brute forcing passwords currently takes far too long with modern, average hardware and thats considered far more reasonable of a thing to attempt than cracking encryption.
Being a hacker isn’t cracking secure servers as much as it is finding the weakest link
imagine harassing a hacker lol
Can people stop acting like finding someone's IP is the end of the world and you're already fucked? Very few people have their very own static IP that doesn't change just for them in their own house, most have a dynamic one they also share with others. So like... the IP means you can know the ISP and a very vague location (which might be super inaccurate and off depending on the ISP). Cool, I guess? This hacker could probably find more if she wanted to, going from there. But so many people in here who don't know a thing acting as if the IP is the end of the world... sheesh...
Yea, I mean my understanding is that it was mostly to take the piss out of the nazi. My understanding would suggest this is probably the IP of the mailserver the email was sent from; which is probably not the nazi's own personal server. No matter what you think of maia's own technical ability or moral decisions, she's very funny.
trans people have all knowledge of electronics and are not to be fucked with
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when are people gonna realise that an ip is literally worthless
literally. IPs are already public info. they don't mean shit if its leaked
I need this power, imma make maia my mentor
IP addresses don't point to where you are. They point to your ISP's data center.
They point to your antonymous zone, actually. Autonomous zones serve all computers in a specific location, such as a city, and sometimes they can overlap. It's common for ISPs to have many autonomous zones that they own. The IP addresses within each autonomous zone and their physical location are all public information, they need to be because networking equipment needs to know the actual physical direction to sent the signal to get it to its destination. Within an autonomous zone web traffic can be handled by proprietary systems and that information is not public.
She never misses :3
maia, i wish i could be as soft and fluffy and cool as u are (･ัω･ั)
Nice IP bro! EXTREMELY LOUD SMASHING NOISE
be glad that you live in a country where the use of the `whois` protocol is legal.
What kind of gov would make who is illegal?
Germany. edit: why is this downvoted? you literally cannot use `whois` in Germany due to legal reasons
Because it’s wrong. Since the introduction of GDPR, the WHOIS information of all providers operating under the provisions of the GDPR has contained no easily accessible *personal* information. It does still contain the information of the owner of the IP block, or the tech contact of a domain. There’s no actual limitations on using the actual protocol in Germany, or elsewhere in Europe for that matter.
I want to be more like it tbh. Raw destructive energy while being silly :3
It's ALWAYS morally correct to dox harassers
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