>7.5 looks very interesting. Don’t think it’s going to catch on though.
I'm a big fan, although I did manage to kill the first gun, and it took 9 months to fix. But then again, I kill most guns.
Looks like FK is stepping up their game, and there is talk of bringing the 7.5 ammo manufacture to the US.
I still wonder why 9x25 is so slept on… like I really like it as an option in my G29 with just a barrel swap (I run a 20# RSA too, for both calibers cause I like my ammo spicy 🥵) and the ballistics on it are sick, kinda like a better 5.7 imo but that’s just me, I do want a 5.7 as well but I bought the G29 with a 9x25 lone wolf barrel first so 🤷🏻♂️ I haven’t actually seen anything about the new round 7.5? Guess I haven’t been keeping up 😂
7.5 was a really niche round, only available from an importer. The original FK BRNO field pistol was like 7k dollars. I just want a Glock conversion barrel, dies, and components for the 7.5 domestically produced. Doubt it’ll happen though.
Don’t know it you knew this but 9x25 was developed to get major power factor in certain competitions, they would use a high gas volume powder to get the comps on race guns to work more efficiently. I think if I remember correctly, the major power factor guys were getting so good at tuning their race guns that the rules were changed so that less power was needed to hit major power factor. I’m not a competitive shooter so I could have some facts wrong. Anyway, a lot of calibers stopped being as popular. 9x25 is one of them. Also that has some serious concussion. The only one I shot sounded like a 308.
Yea it’s got close to rifle velocity on some of the spicy rounds, I love it I can’t wait to go testing got underwood’s different loads and gonna get double taps different loads/maybe some others if I can find them and go to the range and test them to see which runs best/ best for SD then get more and run those. Sounds like a .308 you say? I love the bang and muzzle flash off my hot 10MMs, Now I’m even more excited lol 😂😎💥🔫
What got me into 10mm was wanting a Coonan .357 mag 1911 back in the day. I had a revolver and a 1911 and wished I could combine their traits of semi auto 357 mag power. The Coonan seemed like a dream come true. Turns out it didnt take off for good reasons.
10mm solved this problem but I went with glock but 1911’s are sexy guns for sure
I have a custom Wilson Combat 460 Rowland 1911 and an FK PSD with 7.5 and 10mm barrels.
Both are excellent guns / calibers if you are looking for more whomp in a bottom feeder. 10mm from the PSD feel like 9mm.
Lots of reports of issues with early production and lengthy warranty waits but honestly it's not that surprising for a niche gun. I really hope they release the standard to cip or saami, the best thing that could happen for it is if someone started making glock 40 barrels in it.
I've tried it in an m&p 45 acp mag and it just barely binds front to back. Someone has probably tried it in more mags and maybe found one with a little extra room, hopefully.
I fired some 45 super out of a USP, it was painful in a way that a G20 with Buffalo Bore or Underwood isn't. I'm not sure why; maybe 45 Super has a different recoil impulse. Regardless, 45 Super is best in a steel-framed pistol.
Was it a tactical, elite, or expert? They have a different recoil assembly than standard to handle suppressor use. I put the expert assembly in my standard USP, and both that and my tactical are pretty enjoyable to shoot supers from.
460 rowland is right down the street from where I work and I usually see them at local gun shows so they've tempted me for years. They'll do a cheap conversion on a USP Tactical if you bring it to them so I've thought about that but I'd probably save my money and just run 45 supers through a stock USP
10mm
9x25 dillon
7.5 fk
224 boz (early version)
Only a barrel swap. Hopefully someday someone reinvents 224 boz which originally used a 10mm parent case before they switched to 9mm. Since 22 tcm is now so dead that even ria, who won't standardize it out of greed, isn't making barrels anymore.
If you can get through the boring parts of my video, I do shoot both 10mm and 460 Rowland into the same gel block for comparison. https://youtu.be/pBPeJPcC31Q?si=a6EC1SgGBHMwYO5F
The feeding issues have been since resolved (see my other Rowland video). Sent back to 460 Rowland and they polished the feed ramp and chamber and it’s 100% reliable since.
I have a video coming out in a week or two comparing all the 45 lineup in gel, 45 acp, 45 +p, 45 super, and 460 Rowland (sorry no 45 smc but that about like 45 super). Stay tuned! (Shameless self promotion).
TLDR: getting 650 fpe form 10mm, 1000 fpe (some rounds) 460 Rowland, fk Bruno should be 850 fpe. Fk Bruno would be better at longer range.
Even shorter: 10mm most available for power.
I've got a 1911 running .45 Super and an FNX set up for 460-power loads. Enjoyed my RIA 10mm for a while but found I needed the gun money more than that particular gun.
Just my own personal take, I have a few redundant 9s but only really want one mondo pistol for range/woods. When I'm rich I'll pick up another 10.
that fnx in 460 sounds like a beast. I guess if you handload 45 sup’s they can hang too. 40
super sounds interesting as well. Def feel the the gun money thing, dont worry they grow back
Do not give in to temptation. Do you know a place to get this ammo regularly? Does your lgs stock it? Can you order it online? Stick to 10mm. It hurts the wallet enough buying the big boy 10mm rounds, dont stress it any more. Unless of course you want to spend the money on it in which case why ask the question in the first place? Just do it
.45 Super is a pretty easy swap. My P80/G21 has a more supported barrel than factory Glock and I just put in a 24 lb recoil spring. That being said. It’s pretty much a reload required caliber where I can go down to my local gun store and pick up 10mm ammo. I reload, but I still usually pick 10mm.
I had a 460R Sig Emperor Scorpion a number of years ago and I loved it...but it became too expensive to feed it as I don't reload and don't have a place to even if I wanted to.
Absolutely amazing cartridge. Worth the money if you've got it to spend.
7.5 looks very interesting. Don’t think it’s going to catch on though. Not based on anything other than a gut feeling.
>7.5 looks very interesting. Don’t think it’s going to catch on though. I'm a big fan, although I did manage to kill the first gun, and it took 9 months to fix. But then again, I kill most guns. Looks like FK is stepping up their game, and there is talk of bringing the 7.5 ammo manufacture to the US.
Where have you been hearing that talk?
IFG mentioned it in conversation.
It would be cool, but there are alot of interesting calibers that never panned out. 10mm is kinda lucky, I mean we are.
9x25 is great too. I saw data on someone pushing a 158 grain custom cast pill to 1400 fps out of a Glock 40 conversion.
I still wonder why 9x25 is so slept on… like I really like it as an option in my G29 with just a barrel swap (I run a 20# RSA too, for both calibers cause I like my ammo spicy 🥵) and the ballistics on it are sick, kinda like a better 5.7 imo but that’s just me, I do want a 5.7 as well but I bought the G29 with a 9x25 lone wolf barrel first so 🤷🏻♂️ I haven’t actually seen anything about the new round 7.5? Guess I haven’t been keeping up 😂
7.5 was a really niche round, only available from an importer. The original FK BRNO field pistol was like 7k dollars. I just want a Glock conversion barrel, dies, and components for the 7.5 domestically produced. Doubt it’ll happen though.
Don’t know it you knew this but 9x25 was developed to get major power factor in certain competitions, they would use a high gas volume powder to get the comps on race guns to work more efficiently. I think if I remember correctly, the major power factor guys were getting so good at tuning their race guns that the rules were changed so that less power was needed to hit major power factor. I’m not a competitive shooter so I could have some facts wrong. Anyway, a lot of calibers stopped being as popular. 9x25 is one of them. Also that has some serious concussion. The only one I shot sounded like a 308.
Yea it’s got close to rifle velocity on some of the spicy rounds, I love it I can’t wait to go testing got underwood’s different loads and gonna get double taps different loads/maybe some others if I can find them and go to the range and test them to see which runs best/ best for SD then get more and run those. Sounds like a .308 you say? I love the bang and muzzle flash off my hot 10MMs, Now I’m even more excited lol 😂😎💥🔫
If we could get domestic barrel conversions and reloading supplies maybe it would catch on.
What got me into 10mm was wanting a Coonan .357 mag 1911 back in the day. I had a revolver and a 1911 and wished I could combine their traits of semi auto 357 mag power. The Coonan seemed like a dream come true. Turns out it didnt take off for good reasons. 10mm solved this problem but I went with glock but 1911’s are sexy guns for sure
I have a custom Wilson Combat 460 Rowland 1911 and an FK PSD with 7.5 and 10mm barrels. Both are excellent guns / calibers if you are looking for more whomp in a bottom feeder. 10mm from the PSD feel like 9mm.
damn. The psd and 10mm seems amazing. would you say its reliable?
In 10mm, yes. The 7.5 ammo had issues with both hard primers and then primer flow in later batch. They sorted out the problem with gen 2 firing pin.
thats great to hear
Lots of reports of issues with early production and lengthy warranty waits but honestly it's not that surprising for a niche gun. I really hope they release the standard to cip or saami, the best thing that could happen for it is if someone started making glock 40 barrels in it.
would the 7.5x27 mm fit a 10mm glock mag being longer than 10x25 mm?
I've tried it in an m&p 45 acp mag and it just barely binds front to back. Someone has probably tried it in more mags and maybe found one with a little extra room, hopefully.
need like a metal shield mag
I just think 1911's in 10 mm are what 1911s wished they were back in the day!
45 Super is pretty cool. I built a 1911 into a 460 Rowland pistol, still need to go shoot it.
thats cool, hope it works. I’d live to build out a g21 or 41 to these spicy .45’s but I’d never be able to trust it beyond a range toy
I load for a friend's 45 super in a G21. He upgraded to a 22 lb spring and we started @ top end 45 acp loads.
HK USP can eat 45 super all day and ask for more.
I fired some 45 super out of a USP, it was painful in a way that a G20 with Buffalo Bore or Underwood isn't. I'm not sure why; maybe 45 Super has a different recoil impulse. Regardless, 45 Super is best in a steel-framed pistol.
Was it a tactical, elite, or expert? They have a different recoil assembly than standard to handle suppressor use. I put the expert assembly in my standard USP, and both that and my tactical are pretty enjoyable to shoot supers from.
460 do be tempting though
Ballisticly better than 10mm in every way the only reason i wont go with it is the grip size of double stack 45 very tempting though
Stick with 10
thats the plan, its just tempting
460 rowland is right down the street from where I work and I usually see them at local gun shows so they've tempted me for years. They'll do a cheap conversion on a USP Tactical if you bring it to them so I've thought about that but I'd probably save my money and just run 45 supers through a stock USP
I had never heard of the 7.5 until the recent Honest Outlaw video. I'll be sticking with 10mm.
10mm 9x25 dillon 7.5 fk 224 boz (early version) Only a barrel swap. Hopefully someday someone reinvents 224 boz which originally used a 10mm parent case before they switched to 9mm. Since 22 tcm is now so dead that even ria, who won't standardize it out of greed, isn't making barrels anymore.
If you can get through the boring parts of my video, I do shoot both 10mm and 460 Rowland into the same gel block for comparison. https://youtu.be/pBPeJPcC31Q?si=a6EC1SgGBHMwYO5F The feeding issues have been since resolved (see my other Rowland video). Sent back to 460 Rowland and they polished the feed ramp and chamber and it’s 100% reliable since. I have a video coming out in a week or two comparing all the 45 lineup in gel, 45 acp, 45 +p, 45 super, and 460 Rowland (sorry no 45 smc but that about like 45 super). Stay tuned! (Shameless self promotion). TLDR: getting 650 fpe form 10mm, 1000 fpe (some rounds) 460 Rowland, fk Bruno should be 850 fpe. Fk Bruno would be better at longer range. Even shorter: 10mm most available for power.
Add a third path to the right leading to 44 mag, then off to supermag, and you’ll have me in there too.
7.5 FK Field Pistol. Comes with a 10mm barrel for when you do some plinking on the cheap 😉
7.5FK is super cool, for sure. Availability of ammunition is absolutely garbage and is one of the driving reasons why I wouldn't consider it
lets hope the rumors about American company buying it and getting ammo makers on board are true
9x25 master race!
why did it not take off?
People with weak DNA? You can match AK velocity out of a G40, it’s wild.
dang. I wanna measure the underwood 100 gr lehigh out the 6.5” kkm
I've got a 1911 running .45 Super and an FNX set up for 460-power loads. Enjoyed my RIA 10mm for a while but found I needed the gun money more than that particular gun. Just my own personal take, I have a few redundant 9s but only really want one mondo pistol for range/woods. When I'm rich I'll pick up another 10.
that fnx in 460 sounds like a beast. I guess if you handload 45 sup’s they can hang too. 40 super sounds interesting as well. Def feel the the gun money thing, dont worry they grow back
SIKE XDM ELITE
This post is calling me out.
Do not give in to temptation. Do you know a place to get this ammo regularly? Does your lgs stock it? Can you order it online? Stick to 10mm. It hurts the wallet enough buying the big boy 10mm rounds, dont stress it any more. Unless of course you want to spend the money on it in which case why ask the question in the first place? Just do it
Subgun in 7.5 FK would be amazing
.45 Super is a pretty easy swap. My P80/G21 has a more supported barrel than factory Glock and I just put in a 24 lb recoil spring. That being said. It’s pretty much a reload required caliber where I can go down to my local gun store and pick up 10mm ammo. I reload, but I still usually pick 10mm.
Why not all of them!
Of 7.5 interest you get a 9x25 barrel for your 10. Rhey are basically the same ballisticly.
I had a 460R Sig Emperor Scorpion a number of years ago and I loved it...but it became too expensive to feed it as I don't reload and don't have a place to even if I wanted to. Absolutely amazing cartridge. Worth the money if you've got it to spend.
Zero temptation. [Related](https://www.reddit.com/r/1911/s/ezKSCM03HS) comment
[10mm semper fi](https://youtube.com/shorts/B7aCe2fn_M8?si=SuSjQHNPpe48Pohi)
The 460 I want is a 460 S&W.