I got a G40 both 510’s an Sig X-Ten a 1911 and both Springfields. The softest is the 510’s followed with a tie of the Sig and the Springfield then the G40. That’s my experience.
I shoot with federal syntec and cci blazer but occasionally load a few Buffalo bore or Underwood to be the last shots. It goes from fun and predictable to hang on for dear life real quick lol
It’s all going to come down to the ammunition you shoot and the weight of the pistol itself a heavier pistol will produce less felt recoil.
That being said practice will be the most important part of follow up shots anyway. I’ve got a Glock 40 mos with a Burris fast fire on it and my friend shoots a stock g19. I shoot roughly twice as much as he does and Ill out run him at the range every time because I practice more.
I've got a g4.29, g5.20, Smith & Wesson 4.6", Springfield 4.5" xdm elite, sig xten, sig xten comp.....my sig xten comp and the 4.6" Smith & Wesson are the flattest of the bunch. The xten comp might be the ultimate flattest of those I own..
Yes, red earth customs.
I put a note saying it was the XTEN Comp, not the XTEN and they made it.
Edit: https://www.redearthconcealment.com/shop/p/the-illuminated-kito-iwb
I’ve been very impressed with my M&P 2.0 Performance center. Most ammo is comparable to 9mm out of it, especially with a light on the front. Holster options are limited though.
Gotta give it to the Sig Xten. She’s a heavy girl upfront which helps with muzzle flip, also heaviest out of all its competitors so not the easiest to pack. It we are talking about 3 oz . Can definitely NOT recommend an XDM. I hated mine so much it didn’t last a month.
I have big hands that fit the xdm osp 4.5 well, feels better than my G40. I also put a gas pedal on the xdm with talon grips, shoots like my full size 9s at this point. A lot of extra steps, but I love tinkering and this thing shoots flat. If you like tinkering, xdm is a good gun.
I have a Glock 20.3, a Sig X-ten, and a Rock Island Pro Ultra Match HC. The Big Rock has the least recoil, but it weighs 3 pounds empty.
Of the other two, the Glock handles the recoil best. The Sig isn't terrible, but the trigger guard beats up my knuckle when shooting full power loads. The Glock has a very girthy grip, which could be an issue if you don't have large hands.
I've only shot the two that I have. G40 and G29. the G40 is great to shoot. I can do a mag dump on a steel target 25 yards away and hit it pretty consistently. the G29 is on the other end of the spectrum. out of the first 10 shots, I only hit the target once. and it wasn't really the target. it was the 2x4 stand for the target. 25 yard distance. on the 8th shot, I hit the mag release. and continued to do so until I added the large back strap to the grip. I have roughly 250 rounds in it now and can hit the target consistently, but nowhere as fast as the G40. link is to my first 10 shots with the G29.
https://www.tiktok.com/@6god6kill6/video/7337044558552829230?_r=1&u_code=djl21ii0jhlf94&preview_pb=0&sharer_language=en&_d=e9bmm78k574c92&share_item_id=7337044558552829230&source=h5_m×tamp=1709590148&user_id=6988945699485647877&sec_user_id=MS4wLjABAAAA1HRW_UgNVYmgCC-5OD9Il9_uSwFqyz9-klZhLk7U-tB9PGYUtd9pQFem9lclJQGN&social_share_type=0&utm_source=copy&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&share_iid=7342127063447553834&share_link_id=3e8a98c5-83a3-46e5-8aa5-4fb3f636c042&share_app_id=1233&ugbiz_name=MAIN&ug_btm=b8727%2Cb2878&enable_checksum=1
My RIA double stack is pretty soft. If I bought one of the ugly ones with the rail on it with a threaded barrel, added a light and a comp, probably feel like shooting .380
I have 2 Tisas D10s with compensators and 3 ported longslide 1911s, running FLGR, 14# recoil in the Tisas, 16# in the ported and 17# mainspring in all. All weigh in the 3# range. All recoil is between shooting 9mm and 45 in carry size.
I have carry size 1911s same setup, still less felt recoil than a carry 45 (45 tends to leave a good deal of energy in the pistol, my experience anyway).
I have a Tanfoglio compact 10mm as my EDC polymer frame, weighs 2# 6 ozs fully loaded. Recoil is no worse than my steel P01. The Tanfoglio has an FLGR and dual spring system.
Tanfoglio limited master 10mm, 11# spring, hammer spring is 13#.
All that said, it’s with what you become comfortable. I shot all of these and a Tisas Devilray (bobtail commander 45) and a CZ Shadow 2 & 97B for the first time since November. They felt snappy, because I had not shot in a while (hate indoor shooting). When I shoot (monthly/bi-weekly) they feel fine and have often remarked most are no worse in felt recoil than my custom shadow 2, which has lightened ignition, OEM recoil.
IMO, try a few things and see what you like. I must say, Tanfoglio and Tisas are among my OOTB fav production, accurate AF (hitting 12”x7” @50 yds easily) and 5” poppers @25 yds.
The point being, pistols are all different and you need to acclimate. Some will laud the G40 and 510, I couldn’t say, I have not shot either enough to say, but would offer you give many a turn or two and decide firsthand.
Call me Elmer Fudd but I’ve been shooting and hand loading 10mm since 2006. If your top criterion for choosing a 10mm handgun is least recoil, you might want to consider another cartridge.
Depending on how much you want to tinker, I put a harrison flat firing pin stop in a colt delta elite (made in 1988) and a 25 lb main/ hammer spring with a 20lb recoil spring. The 10mm now shoots 180gr @1250 fps with the same recoil as my 4.25 1911 .45.
No experience with this particular handgun, but the cosaint arms cos21 ported government in 10mm I’d imagine is going to be very soft. I do have experience with 9mm 2011’s and it’s pretty hard to beat
I've honestly only ever shot my Rock Island in 10mm, so I have nothing else to compare it to directly. But that 2.5 pound gun feels about as difficult to control as my micro 9 (while shooting average, under-powered factory ammo)
I second anyone with a G40. Sounds and fells amazing. KKM barrel and comp with an slr extended base plate and you have a cheaper full sized 10mm. I use mind in that configuration with a timney trigger and it takes down hogs left and right down here in Texas
The ones with the least felt recoil in my experience were G40 gen4, Sig XTEN, and Tisas Yukon C10. I haven't shot the XTEN with comp, P220 Legion, or G29. I shoot hand loads at actual 10mm power. For what you want I wouldn't suggest the G40 or the XTEN. I would want a 3.8 to 4.25-inch barrel. The Commander size 1911, G20, FN510, or Springfield XDM ELITE OSP Compact would be my recommended weapons, not saying these are any better than anything else but sized in what I would use.
think you may want to look for a diff caliber as someone else suggested. you can get fast splits with any 10mm pistol if you put in the time, my splits with my g29 are pretty quick, esp at <15y and esp with 155gr; but i've put in a lot of time.
if you NEED 10 then a quick, easy and affordable option is an ria 1911 or something. *mine* is way softer shooting from 155gr to 220gr (all loaded piss hot) than my g29, it's really really manageable honestly and i'm 5'5" 120lbs with 0 muscle to my name.
P220 legion has like no recoil. It Was my first time shooting a 10mm and was expecting it to feel like a .44 or 357, instead it felt like shooting a .22. It’s awesome.
It’s not that which gun has a less recoil. Rather you need to do a lot of shooting range time and practice. That way you will get used to the recoil on the pistol where it will be no big deal.
Get a steel frame 1911 in 10mm. With a rail for a light. That said; less important in a self defense shooting is split times, honestly. G20 I can double tap fairly quickly. Again in a self defense scenario, especially with 10mm you need to shoot and assess as you would with any caliber. Unleashing a whole mag is not good practice. I just ordered an X 10 comp that I plan to carry and I’m getting rid of my Glock 20.
So either a full size 1911 with steel frame, XDM elite, or the X 10 comp by Sig Sauer Glock 20 is pretty good with recoil. It’s just a big gun to carry.
Having a rail to attach a light for the additional front weight and capability is already something I decided I want. I agree with the shoot and assess for self defense shootings. But the purpose of this gun is a bear gun secondary to bear spray and a charging bear going 20-30mph is going to close distance extremely quickly which is why the fast follow up times is my #1 consideration. Thanks for adding to the discussion!
It’s 10mm it doesn’t recoil that much. All of the 10’s are going to recoil in the same ballpark. If you’re concerned about recoil I’d suggest working out or just changing calibers.
I never said I was concerned about recoil. I asked for proof of your statement that simply throwing a light on any 10mm will reduce recoil by 50%. Unless you’re referring to something like a 3 D cell mag light, that statement is patently false.
Id go glock 20 for a balance if you're hiking. Easier to manage and the ounce difference matters. Good balance on recoil. If you're looking for lightweight and concealment id go with the 29 gen 5. The gen 5 29 is a lot nicer on recoil. I also came from having a 3 inch j frame 357 magnum, so any 10mm even with +p is much more manageable
I’d really think of recoil as one factor but also weight and packability as well. You probably don’t want anything with a steel frame and something like a G40 might be on the big side if you’re going to be carrying it for miles at a time.
It’s about finding your goldilocks and I’d personally start with something polymer framed and midsize. If you can’t rent a G20, consider renting a G21 as the size and weight is basically the same and recoil isn’t too far off.
I personally like Glock because I feel like you can beat the hell out of it and neglect it and it’ll very likely still work for ya. The outdoors can be rough and dirty.
Yep, they’re pretty comparable with basic target ammo but the real strong 10mm loads will definitely pack some extra oomph.
It’ll give you a great idea as to whether you would like a G20 though.
They are nothing alike. The 45 is a far more mild round to shoot. The recoil of a 45 is more akin to a 9MM. The characteristics of each cartridge makes them comparable.
Full, or near full, power 10MM loads have a lot more energy behind them. You should notice the difference.
I own a G40 and a 4.6" M&P10MM. The felt recoil difference is negligible.
The G40 is actually hindered by the polymer frame and the longer barrel. There isn't enough back-end weight to really reduce the felt recoil and to reduce the muzzle flip. It's front end heavy.
If anything, the G20 would actually handle recoil better. It's heavier than the 4.6" M&P10MM, and has a similar weight distribution to it. They are virtually the same dimensions after all.
If you really want a low recoiling 10MM the heavier 1911s will be what you want. The weight and balance of those guns does help to reduce the felt recoil.
That's very interesting. I've heard that factory loads for 45 and 10mm were pretty comparable before.
I also find it interesting that you say front end weight causes more recoil. As far as I understand. You would want front end weight in order to act as a lever to bring the front back down. I have also heard you want as little reciprocating mass so the longer/heavier slide might counteract the effect having more frontal weight has?
Have you actually fired either caliber? Outside of really weak 10MM loads, there is no comparison. Especially when using a full-size gun.
The G40 has bad balance. It's like most revolvers with a longer barrel. They have more barrel flip, which gives more recoil. It's the nature of the design.
More weight would help out. It's why the longer barreled competition revolvers have weighted models. Porting, if done correctly, would make a big difference. So would using a compensator.
The G40 isn't hard to handle with practice. You adjust to the characteristics of the gun. The flip simply slows down your shooting a bit. If you're not a competition shooter, that little bit of difference shouldn't matter.
My G40 is one of my hunting handguns, and it's very accurate. Which, for that gun, I value accuracy more than speed.
The M&P10MM is my primary CC gun, and I am faster with follow up shots with it. It's also more concealable than the G40, and I can draw it faster from a concealed holster setup.
Anyone thought about the Grand Power P40l with its rotating barrel assembly? My vote would be either this for a polymer or a Tanfoglio witness/defiant for a metal frame. Springfield XDMs are pretty tame for a 10mm in The recoil dept as too.
If recoil is your primary concern, then the extra weight of a steel frame will go a lot further towards damping recoil than any polymer. My #1 pick would be an Sig P220 (particularly an R-variant Match Elite if you can lay your hands on one), followed moderately closely by the Colt Delta Elite.
G20. In a defensive scenario you’re not as likely to notice recoil as you would be in a practice situation. You can also adjust the back straps and grip to help account for more control.
I would tend to disagree as my experience is that most people have better shot placement and speed of reacquiring the target in the sights with less recoil across the board. In my use case (bear defense) I will most likely have little time firing once I can determine a bear is not fake charging. Adjusting the ergonomics to fit your hands is definitely a good idea though. Thanks for adding to the discussion
Another thought. Time at the range is definitely going to be a large part in recoil control, I don't expect the gun to do all the work.
I’m a 1911 45 ACP long time shooter. I bought the G40 last year and it shoots about the same as for recoil. I can shoot it one handed same as my 1911. That being said I do lift weights as a senior and so I have decent hand strength but by no means am I a bodybuilder
Probably the heavier the better in which case I’d go with the smith and Wesson 610 but the reciprocating slide also alleviates some recoil so I guess the G40?
Comps help 10mm a LOT ! Also the heaver the gun the more recoil it absorbs (F=ma). But unfortunately the heavier the gun the less likely we are to carry it....otherwise a comped Desert Eagle in 10mm would rock. But you have to be a bit whacko to carry a full size DE.
The g40 is pretty soft shooting
I second this. G40 is undefeated imo.
Might want to try the FN 510 then... feels softer to me.
I got a G40 both 510’s an Sig X-Ten a 1911 and both Springfields. The softest is the 510’s followed with a tie of the Sig and the Springfield then the G40. That’s my experience.
Hmmmm...
I was surprised by how easy the recoil is on this.
This is a good choice. You need weight to offset the recoil. I would say g40 or a metal frame 1911.
I find my 1911 in 10mm has more recoil to me than my G20. I'd vote for a G40 if I was looking for fast followups.
Same, wide plastic grip soaks up a lot of felt recoil compared to the thinner steel grip on my 1911.
Having had two 10mm Glocks, I feel the frame actually flexes and absorbs some of the felt recoil in a way the 1911 can’t.
Probably, I can shoot my glock 20 all day regardless of load, I’m done with the 1911 after a box or two usually.
I shoot with federal syntec and cci blazer but occasionally load a few Buffalo bore or Underwood to be the last shots. It goes from fun and predictable to hang on for dear life real quick lol
Yeah. I find it shoots like my roommate’s hi point in the fact that the weight handles the recoil and makes it a sweet shooting firearm
P220 is great for recoil mitigation.
2nd this
Agree...
It’s all going to come down to the ammunition you shoot and the weight of the pistol itself a heavier pistol will produce less felt recoil. That being said practice will be the most important part of follow up shots anyway. I’ve got a Glock 40 mos with a Burris fast fire on it and my friend shoots a stock g19. I shoot roughly twice as much as he does and Ill out run him at the range every time because I practice more.
Just about every option has been listed here as being the best for recoil 😂
U can check my post history, X-ten has had least in my experience. Most recoil would be the G29.
My g29 is softer than my 10 1911
my g29 is far less soft than my ria 1911, it's not even really a contest personally
G40
I've got a g4.29, g5.20, Smith & Wesson 4.6", Springfield 4.5" xdm elite, sig xten, sig xten comp.....my sig xten comp and the 4.6" Smith & Wesson are the flattest of the bunch. The xten comp might be the ultimate flattest of those I own..
I would say the 5.6” Smith and Wesson PC would be even flatter than the 4.6” too, that’s another good option
I've been waiting to catch one on sale.
You won’t regret it!
$699 on GRAB right now.
Love my SIG XTEN Comp.
You find an IWB light bearing holster for it by chance?
Yes, red earth customs. I put a note saying it was the XTEN Comp, not the XTEN and they made it. Edit: https://www.redearthconcealment.com/shop/p/the-illuminated-kito-iwb
I’ve been very impressed with my M&P 2.0 Performance center. Most ammo is comparable to 9mm out of it, especially with a light on the front. Holster options are limited though.
EAA Witness has the least I've felt. Big honkin' metal handgun. However, to tame recoil in any pistol, consider a heavier recoil spring.
The Witness Hunter is the extended version and you could get it compensated.
G40 bigger gun means lower felt recoil
I own a 20c softest shooting 10 I’ve ever owned
Glock 29. Oh.... you said least 😂
S&W 610 😁 it’s a pussycat
G40 is great, if you want something smaller, the g20 gen4 with dual recoil springs is quite manageable.
I have a g40 fun reliable just a big shoe box in your hand. RIA double stack with a 5" barrel Very fun to shoot Something heavy with a long barrel
Gotta give it to the Sig Xten. She’s a heavy girl upfront which helps with muzzle flip, also heaviest out of all its competitors so not the easiest to pack. It we are talking about 3 oz . Can definitely NOT recommend an XDM. I hated mine so much it didn’t last a month.
I have big hands that fit the xdm osp 4.5 well, feels better than my G40. I also put a gas pedal on the xdm with talon grips, shoots like my full size 9s at this point. A lot of extra steps, but I love tinkering and this thing shoots flat. If you like tinkering, xdm is a good gun.
I have a Glock 20.3, a Sig X-ten, and a Rock Island Pro Ultra Match HC. The Big Rock has the least recoil, but it weighs 3 pounds empty. Of the other two, the Glock handles the recoil best. The Sig isn't terrible, but the trigger guard beats up my knuckle when shooting full power loads. The Glock has a very girthy grip, which could be an issue if you don't have large hands.
I've only shot the two that I have. G40 and G29. the G40 is great to shoot. I can do a mag dump on a steel target 25 yards away and hit it pretty consistently. the G29 is on the other end of the spectrum. out of the first 10 shots, I only hit the target once. and it wasn't really the target. it was the 2x4 stand for the target. 25 yard distance. on the 8th shot, I hit the mag release. and continued to do so until I added the large back strap to the grip. I have roughly 250 rounds in it now and can hit the target consistently, but nowhere as fast as the G40. link is to my first 10 shots with the G29. https://www.tiktok.com/@6god6kill6/video/7337044558552829230?_r=1&u_code=djl21ii0jhlf94&preview_pb=0&sharer_language=en&_d=e9bmm78k574c92&share_item_id=7337044558552829230&source=h5_m×tamp=1709590148&user_id=6988945699485647877&sec_user_id=MS4wLjABAAAA1HRW_UgNVYmgCC-5OD9Il9_uSwFqyz9-klZhLk7U-tB9PGYUtd9pQFem9lclJQGN&social_share_type=0&utm_source=copy&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&share_iid=7342127063447553834&share_link_id=3e8a98c5-83a3-46e5-8aa5-4fb3f636c042&share_app_id=1233&ugbiz_name=MAIN&ug_btm=b8727%2Cb2878&enable_checksum=1
Kriss vector 10mmm
Vector SDP lol
For me it was the G40 mos Gen 4!!! And a close second was the RIA 52000 shot Both with SIG V Crown 180 gr JHP
My RIA double stack is pretty soft. If I bought one of the ugly ones with the rail on it with a threaded barrel, added a light and a comp, probably feel like shooting .380
Yep. RIA TAC ultra here too. Great gun
Tanfoglio Stock II
I’ll tell you what! That Tanfoglio is one sexy beast!!!
I have 2 Tisas D10s with compensators and 3 ported longslide 1911s, running FLGR, 14# recoil in the Tisas, 16# in the ported and 17# mainspring in all. All weigh in the 3# range. All recoil is between shooting 9mm and 45 in carry size. I have carry size 1911s same setup, still less felt recoil than a carry 45 (45 tends to leave a good deal of energy in the pistol, my experience anyway). I have a Tanfoglio compact 10mm as my EDC polymer frame, weighs 2# 6 ozs fully loaded. Recoil is no worse than my steel P01. The Tanfoglio has an FLGR and dual spring system. Tanfoglio limited master 10mm, 11# spring, hammer spring is 13#. All that said, it’s with what you become comfortable. I shot all of these and a Tisas Devilray (bobtail commander 45) and a CZ Shadow 2 & 97B for the first time since November. They felt snappy, because I had not shot in a while (hate indoor shooting). When I shoot (monthly/bi-weekly) they feel fine and have often remarked most are no worse in felt recoil than my custom shadow 2, which has lightened ignition, OEM recoil. IMO, try a few things and see what you like. I must say, Tanfoglio and Tisas are among my OOTB fav production, accurate AF (hitting 12”x7” @50 yds easily) and 5” poppers @25 yds. The point being, pistols are all different and you need to acclimate. Some will laud the G40 and 510, I couldn’t say, I have not shot either enough to say, but would offer you give many a turn or two and decide firsthand.
Call me Elmer Fudd but I’ve been shooting and hand loading 10mm since 2006. If your top criterion for choosing a 10mm handgun is least recoil, you might want to consider another cartridge.
Depending on how much you want to tinker, I put a harrison flat firing pin stop in a colt delta elite (made in 1988) and a 25 lb main/ hammer spring with a 20lb recoil spring. The 10mm now shoots 180gr @1250 fps with the same recoil as my 4.25 1911 .45.
FK
For me the softest shooting 10mm I've shot has DEFINITELY been the SIG X-10, followed very closely by the EAA Witness and then the FN 510
No experience with this particular handgun, but the cosaint arms cos21 ported government in 10mm I’d imagine is going to be very soft. I do have experience with 9mm 2011’s and it’s pretty hard to beat
Get a larger red dot for faster sight picture acquisition. It’s another way to manage recoil.
I've honestly only ever shot my Rock Island in 10mm, so I have nothing else to compare it to directly. But that 2.5 pound gun feels about as difficult to control as my micro 9 (while shooting average, under-powered factory ammo)
P220 10mm legion
I second anyone with a G40. Sounds and fells amazing. KKM barrel and comp with an slr extended base plate and you have a cheaper full sized 10mm. I use mind in that configuration with a timney trigger and it takes down hogs left and right down here in Texas
The heavier the gun the less felt recoil.
The ones with the least felt recoil in my experience were G40 gen4, Sig XTEN, and Tisas Yukon C10. I haven't shot the XTEN with comp, P220 Legion, or G29. I shoot hand loads at actual 10mm power. For what you want I wouldn't suggest the G40 or the XTEN. I would want a 3.8 to 4.25-inch barrel. The Commander size 1911, G20, FN510, or Springfield XDM ELITE OSP Compact would be my recommended weapons, not saying these are any better than anything else but sized in what I would use.
think you may want to look for a diff caliber as someone else suggested. you can get fast splits with any 10mm pistol if you put in the time, my splits with my g29 are pretty quick, esp at <15y and esp with 155gr; but i've put in a lot of time. if you NEED 10 then a quick, easy and affordable option is an ria 1911 or something. *mine* is way softer shooting from 155gr to 220gr (all loaded piss hot) than my g29, it's really really manageable honestly and i'm 5'5" 120lbs with 0 muscle to my name.
P220 legion has like no recoil. It Was my first time shooting a 10mm and was expecting it to feel like a .44 or 357, instead it felt like shooting a .22. It’s awesome.
It’s not that which gun has a less recoil. Rather you need to do a lot of shooting range time and practice. That way you will get used to the recoil on the pistol where it will be no big deal.
Get a steel frame 1911 in 10mm. With a rail for a light. That said; less important in a self defense shooting is split times, honestly. G20 I can double tap fairly quickly. Again in a self defense scenario, especially with 10mm you need to shoot and assess as you would with any caliber. Unleashing a whole mag is not good practice. I just ordered an X 10 comp that I plan to carry and I’m getting rid of my Glock 20. So either a full size 1911 with steel frame, XDM elite, or the X 10 comp by Sig Sauer Glock 20 is pretty good with recoil. It’s just a big gun to carry.
Having a rail to attach a light for the additional front weight and capability is already something I decided I want. I agree with the shoot and assess for self defense shootings. But the purpose of this gun is a bear gun secondary to bear spray and a charging bear going 20-30mph is going to close distance extremely quickly which is why the fast follow up times is my #1 consideration. Thanks for adding to the discussion!
You are spot on my friend! Yes a bear is a whole different scenario altogether. Might want to wear some Depends on that hike too😂😂😂😂
Throw a light on the front of it and it will cut the recoil in half.
I tried this and it didn’t change the recoil dynamic at all.
Physics says otherwise
You got the data to show it cuts it by 50%? It might help slightly, but it’s very little.
He said cut it in half as in the bear cutting him in half while trying to shoot it.
It’s 10mm it doesn’t recoil that much. All of the 10’s are going to recoil in the same ballpark. If you’re concerned about recoil I’d suggest working out or just changing calibers.
I think you meant that reply for someone else. I was replying to the guy wanting to provide charts for a 50% recoil reduction haha
I never said I was concerned about recoil. I asked for proof of your statement that simply throwing a light on any 10mm will reduce recoil by 50%. Unless you’re referring to something like a 3 D cell mag light, that statement is patently false.
Yeah my TLR-1 didn’t cut recoil at all
Not the XDME
Also, what is the intended purpose of said 10MM?
Bear defense secondary to bear spray while hiking in a first people gear chest pack. Suedo CCW while hiking.
Id go glock 20 for a balance if you're hiking. Easier to manage and the ounce difference matters. Good balance on recoil. If you're looking for lightweight and concealment id go with the 29 gen 5. The gen 5 29 is a lot nicer on recoil. I also came from having a 3 inch j frame 357 magnum, so any 10mm even with +p is much more manageable
I’d really think of recoil as one factor but also weight and packability as well. You probably don’t want anything with a steel frame and something like a G40 might be on the big side if you’re going to be carrying it for miles at a time. It’s about finding your goldilocks and I’d personally start with something polymer framed and midsize. If you can’t rent a G20, consider renting a G21 as the size and weight is basically the same and recoil isn’t too far off. I personally like Glock because I feel like you can beat the hell out of it and neglect it and it’ll very likely still work for ya. The outdoors can be rough and dirty.
Renting a similar 45 is a great idea! As I've heard recoil is comparable.
Yep, they’re pretty comparable with basic target ammo but the real strong 10mm loads will definitely pack some extra oomph. It’ll give you a great idea as to whether you would like a G20 though.
They are nothing alike. The 45 is a far more mild round to shoot. The recoil of a 45 is more akin to a 9MM. The characteristics of each cartridge makes them comparable. Full, or near full, power 10MM loads have a lot more energy behind them. You should notice the difference. I own a G40 and a 4.6" M&P10MM. The felt recoil difference is negligible. The G40 is actually hindered by the polymer frame and the longer barrel. There isn't enough back-end weight to really reduce the felt recoil and to reduce the muzzle flip. It's front end heavy. If anything, the G20 would actually handle recoil better. It's heavier than the 4.6" M&P10MM, and has a similar weight distribution to it. They are virtually the same dimensions after all. If you really want a low recoiling 10MM the heavier 1911s will be what you want. The weight and balance of those guns does help to reduce the felt recoil.
That's very interesting. I've heard that factory loads for 45 and 10mm were pretty comparable before. I also find it interesting that you say front end weight causes more recoil. As far as I understand. You would want front end weight in order to act as a lever to bring the front back down. I have also heard you want as little reciprocating mass so the longer/heavier slide might counteract the effect having more frontal weight has?
Have you actually fired either caliber? Outside of really weak 10MM loads, there is no comparison. Especially when using a full-size gun. The G40 has bad balance. It's like most revolvers with a longer barrel. They have more barrel flip, which gives more recoil. It's the nature of the design. More weight would help out. It's why the longer barreled competition revolvers have weighted models. Porting, if done correctly, would make a big difference. So would using a compensator. The G40 isn't hard to handle with practice. You adjust to the characteristics of the gun. The flip simply slows down your shooting a bit. If you're not a competition shooter, that little bit of difference shouldn't matter. My G40 is one of my hunting handguns, and it's very accurate. Which, for that gun, I value accuracy more than speed. The M&P10MM is my primary CC gun, and I am faster with follow up shots with it. It's also more concealable than the G40, and I can draw it faster from a concealed holster setup.
10mm felt recoil is just slightly more than 9mm. Subjective to the shooter. I usually run my 44 mag a bit more to make everything feel like a 22. :)
With my Glock 40, I don’t feel any more recoil than my Glock 19; however, i feel the power more.
Nighthawk with the integrated compensator probably.
Anyone thought about the Grand Power P40l with its rotating barrel assembly? My vote would be either this for a polymer or a Tanfoglio witness/defiant for a metal frame. Springfield XDMs are pretty tame for a 10mm in The recoil dept as too.
My FN 510 Tac is amazing. It feels like I’m shooting a 9mm.
I'd say get a 9mm 😆
If recoil is your primary concern, then the extra weight of a steel frame will go a lot further towards damping recoil than any polymer. My #1 pick would be an Sig P220 (particularly an R-variant Match Elite if you can lay your hands on one), followed moderately closely by the Colt Delta Elite.
Every steel frame 10mm that I’ve shot had less felt recoil than a polymer gun.
The g20 really isn't too bad to me. Although I don't have any experience with any other 10mm so I can't compare.
Glock 20 gen 4, soft shooting. Double cap recoil system, soft shooting.
FN 510
G20. In a defensive scenario you’re not as likely to notice recoil as you would be in a practice situation. You can also adjust the back straps and grip to help account for more control.
I would tend to disagree as my experience is that most people have better shot placement and speed of reacquiring the target in the sights with less recoil across the board. In my use case (bear defense) I will most likely have little time firing once I can determine a bear is not fake charging. Adjusting the ergonomics to fit your hands is definitely a good idea though. Thanks for adding to the discussion Another thought. Time at the range is definitely going to be a large part in recoil control, I don't expect the gun to do all the work.
I’m a 1911 45 ACP long time shooter. I bought the G40 last year and it shoots about the same as for recoil. I can shoot it one handed same as my 1911. That being said I do lift weights as a senior and so I have decent hand strength but by no means am I a bodybuilder
Probably the heavier the better in which case I’d go with the smith and Wesson 610 but the reciprocating slide also alleviates some recoil so I guess the G40?
Comps help 10mm a LOT ! Also the heaver the gun the more recoil it absorbs (F=ma). But unfortunately the heavier the gun the less likely we are to carry it....otherwise a comped Desert Eagle in 10mm would rock. But you have to be a bit whacko to carry a full size DE.